were provided by turkey which is also not a neutral player in that war so if how can you have so much confidence in the process right now when in the past it delivered the results that russia clearly didn't agree with that is a very good question but. look you can trust to the results. only in the case when. taken according to the chain of custody. that means. an inspector. came to the site. put it in. not just close it but sealed it with a special seal. be broken and then those samples are delivered to. their opened in controlled. environments. records are kept this is exactly. and

lives now already have i think a very clear in the western media to suggest that the russia and syria used this initial delay in the ability of the o.p.c. inspectors to access the scene that they use that specific lee to clean the area from a technical from a scientific point of view can the o.p.c. w. inspectors establish why that the scene was tampered with because even if they deliver clean samples in this case clean from the russian point of view the west i think would easily come out and say that. there is nothing there simply because the russians killed all the evidence. yes but in the case of. actually there were not. specters who came into the samples turkish side had provided them with lots of inconsistent. didn't prevent.

joint investigative mechanism to. state that even to end these after use of chemical weapons in tashi whom it was possible to analyze the samples and determined that was. you think that russia can rely on that kind of argument is still not really but the point is. three tical yes you can clean the area but the use of chemical weapons and remember chemical weapons is not the one you take poison inject it into one person so you have to. eat a whole area to make the mass killing of people so that's chemical weapons even that so the whole area should be should be contaminated soil. building constructions and. a lot of a lot of. structures in the to clean it really clean it you have to

probably demolish maybe couple of. blocks not even couple but maybe five ten blocks of the city you have to demolish and take it out so it's impossible to do that but it's not just samples this is witnesses this is hospitals this is a victim but he you know there is a narrative of western narrative about two and there we already see seen that in the western paper suggesting that some of the witnesses have been under pressure from their side government anyway so it's going to have to take a very short break now but he'll be back in just a few moments stay tuned. kamel

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welcome back to worlds apart with untold allchin therefore might u.n. chemical weapons expert in iraq dr the syrian file is obviously not the only one that the a b c w is wrestling with the script all cases still going through the motions that they organization in terms of the procedural options open to them. is it looking better for russia or the u.k. at this point the longer the u.k. officials keep the results of investigation in secret so the more. capability they help to blame russia without any supporting evidence. the question is why this happens the point is first we see that right now the u.k. generated over seventeen different versions of how scruples were poisoned we see

how. they determine where the chemical was produced and yet they also lied about their country of origin they still continue doing that and i think i correct me if i'm wrong but i would think that if there's any hope for russia to sort of constrain that it would be through using the o.p.c. w. makan is now my understanding and i may be wrong on that is that the u.k. from the very beginning wanted to create an impression of the o.p.c. w.-a being involved but it did not follow the formal of that it was through the technical secretariat rather through the through the formal procedure prescribed by the convention why would they do that and why would the o.p.c. w. agree to be engaged in such an unconventional way through the technical secretary at the rather than through you know challenge inspections and what have you. well. step by step first of all why do not it start to to.

bring the politics. of you first of all you have to understand actually killing one person is a criminal case so it's not the use of chemical weapons like the brother of. military grade the nerve agent diverted on the territory rather of compassion in the literal for north korea was killed with v.x. that was new to a great agent not the choke was never proved to be chemical agent if you take. w. who considered in two thousand and eleven they said there is no confirmation that this is chemical. knew to agree to agent. it was in the interest of the u.k. to engage the o p c w that that then you can blame not just in the criminal.

case but you can blame the perpetrators in the use of chemical weapons which is much more aggravated. absolutely and actually disses wrong because. rather a kitchen he was killed with the expect nobody used. in this case so right now they start to use but they didn't call for inspection. use of chemical weapons they invited opus w inspection even not the spectrum but their representatives. as a technical assistance and the only question that they put before people was. if the chemical that we determined. to be used. as a poison is correct or not so people. they checked this out yes this is correct structure of the chemical and eat but that allowed the

u.k. to state the confirmed their suspicions against russia which was they were already called out on that but i saw you say in a previous interview that it was a mistake on the part of russia not to pursue article nine of the convention in a more forceful way do you think russia still has the procedural means to pressure the u.k. to provide all the evidence that it has because my understanding of why they didn't pursue the formal wrote this is because they would have had to provide all the you know intelligence information all the classified data in order to call for let's say inspection by using the technical secretary they don't really have to provide anything is that right well. according to. the article none. there is a procedure that you can request the state party and you can exchange information

and consult with the body you for you do not have satisfactory answer you can go through the executive council if you do not get this abstract through council you can go up to the conference of state parties do you think russia should call for this cause i believe that russia right now. according to the procedure so russia requests that information from the u.k. it didn't get the status five or so right now it is in position to make the same request from the executive council no exact to council wouldn't vote for that so they would just. transfer the request to the u.k. and you can provide the answer. of council which will be transferred to russia so russia has to use. procedure that would show that

russia full of international. weapons is the bureaucracy better understand their correctly who pursues the bureaucracy. full of all the procedures of the convention like the kingdom now in one of your previous interviews he also said that the very categorical nature of britain's accusations against russia left its with no room for maneuver essentially london has no other way but to double down on its initial narrative regardless of how conflicting the evidence is and. i think that it was perhaps in our discussion on syria but and i'm going to ask you again do you think any amount of evidence any amount of testimony and due process following the rules is going to how to you this issue in a way that would be fair to all sides because from my position from my point of view what we have is a politico wrangling yet again nobody's really interested apart that act perhaps

for russia in establishing the scientific fact that's exactly true russia really interested in the joint investigation. it why. this is. a territory no it happened with russian citizen russian according to the vienna convention relations has the right to communicate with russian citizens in any case but the united kingdom doesn't want to do that so no. details of the investigation i would like you to not one thing actually the recently. general director of w was interview. interviewed by pranks and he said very interesting thing that was the question why

not agent was determined. to composed only in the blood or for yulia scruple it was. supposed to be decomposed met the bullies and. but they found decomposed in their blood in your blood but not in the blood of who was exposed. or exported to the chemical agent so that was very strange because. it is not clear how it happened a fresh agent was. and it's not unknown not the first inconsistency in these or any previous investigations i mean the very nature of the allegation that teresa mayes government made against russia i mean they are accusing us of lawful use of force by the russian state against the united kingdom this is an unprecedented allegation but when they made

a decision to go ahead of it that i seem that they have also made a calculation that they have what it takes to win this battle of narrative i suppose that they presume that they have and i france and i have enough. political ammunition to get what they want the right. part of this battle but i. be i was told if you see a dead body and a person running with a knife around his body it doesn't mean the person trying to apply common sense to this situation when i think it's it's no longer play couple years all sad that the vienna convention is nothing to the u.k. authorities they couldn't care less about history but you have to understand the world is not clear right now or on the u.k. . several more western countries a lot of countries are watching this situation and they make

a conclusion that actually any of them can undergo the same situation when they can be bloody blamed in the use of chemical weapons and they can distract with missiles on the reason and right now they see how russia is performing in this situation and they really have to understand who they are going to be for in this situation morell. let me ask you one more question about the questionable claims that the russian side has advanced i'm sure you're heard the russian foreign minister statement about this labs discovery of the bees that toxin in some samples as well as speculations that the script symptoms are more consistent with that poisoning rather than over chunks those claims were directly contradicted by the o.p.c. w. which sat it was discovered and controlled rather than the actual samples do you

think the bees at stories close by now and do you think it was appropriate on the russian side to present the information in a way that was presented well to be frank with you i believe that the explanation. is quite satisfactory they can do special control samples to make sure that it is. determined by both laboratories and they know exactly what. the russians were right to use the confidential information that they i assume received through some intelligence sources in such a way that would put the o.p.c. w.-o. on the spot because russia does need the goodwill and called ration and of of the international body wasn't undermining that goodwill. in the situation with without any evidence so what should run. to do. the game one. hundred percent loser from the beginning now russia is supposed to

use any keys any fact any evidence to protect itself and to fight in this particular game well here saying is that desperate times call for desperate measures going to have to leave it there i really appreciate your being with us this morning and i invite our viewers to keep this conversation going in our social media pages as for me hope to see you again same place same time here on worlds apart.

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sunday april twenty ninth here in moscow you are just in time for the international stories of the day and the. locals including doctors from the syrian town of duma have testified at the u.n. chemical watchdog headquarters in the netherlands saying they witnessed no signs of an alleged chemical attack on april the seventh. located a boy that was featured in an unverified white helmets video showing the supposed to aftermath of a toxic strike he also gave evidence to the o.p.c. w. but not everyone wanted to hear what he had to say as. when these videos emerged pundits and politicians took them as gospel the truth conclusive indisputable and irrefutable proof of assad's chemical since the chemical weapon that killed dozens of civilians and astaire's that the us had regime has

previously used in chemical attacks the assad regime has used the same yellow gas canisters the n.s.c. telling fox news they have a high degree of confidence that it was used they must have had solid evidence you don't just launch a hundred cruise missiles in an act of war without convincing proof beyond any doubt right right wrong. you know they have all right we were in the basement and then heard someone outside scream go to hospital we were scared they started to pour water on me i don't know why they did this. pundits and politicians who've never been to syria where it happened witnesses the locals who were there in the hospital in question say they didn't see a thing all the exhaust was white helmets dousing confused of aliens with water

neither did the doctors see anything. on the seventh of april i was in the emergency room treating patients injured during the fighting the same day around seven pm we started receiving patients with breathing problems about fifteen cases this happened because people were in hailing smoke and the only shows symptoms of choking and nothing more it all happened because one missile hit a building nearby and a lot of dust got into the hospital rooms with. the screams chemical weapons chemical weapons were used to create panic this lasted for about an hour we were treating the patients and then sending them home so you have no fatalities or instances of people suffering from a poisonous substances this isn't helping western journalists their leaders insist it happened syria russia and locals insist it didn't dead end usually when you put your mind to not a monologue if you don't understand normal language let's try

a different way if you're impervious to arguments let us bring you the witnesses so russia aboard more than a dozen witnesses to the west to the u.p.c. w. and invited western press perfect opportunity for journalists to get to the bottom of this right. right how low do you have to go to bring a little child all the way and threaten them right off the bat the nile but here's the what if we came here willingly we demanded the red cross allow us to come here . wrong in truth there isn't the right answer no matter what you say to some people no matter what you show them they'll never ever come around or change their views how threatened do you have to feel to change your story into the noise a chemical weapons attack stubborn doesn't do this fellow justice he's really the

reason that the boy had to fly over the yes my son is young and it's been difficult for him to make it here a flight here is no easy thing so little has scientists told you the truth something you do not want to hear was a necessary measure we needed to show that there was a line in a very dangerous one. anyone who hoped there would be a breakthrough was in for a disappointment hours of testimony and the evidence all for naught that you mentioned in the russian press release that somebody here was going to be present who was a witness of producing the video of the white helmets and i was wondering where this witness is and if he can tell his testimony. more and more it's my view all these witnesses we heard from today on the evidence

the white helmets feel is fake i don't know maybe i missed something. in one ear out the other with no pause in between. we discussed all of this with independent research of a nasa billy who visited duma and collected people's testimonies that when i spoke to people in duma dr medical staff in the same hospital in the medical point that was seen faked and on that night they all also told me exactly the same thing as people are now hearing in the hague and also when i went outside and spoke to civilians only seven hundred meters away from the alleged attack they were also all saying the same thing to me that there was no chemical weapon attack i am surprised and i'm shocked at the levels to which western media has stooped over this alleged event in june and the moral bankruptcy and degeneracy that were saying from western media i mean to accuse russia of basically exploiting

a child in use during the evidence of eleven year old has and after western media has cynically exploited children throughout the history of this conflict and if we don't have to go back to far to remember that in east aleppo it is almost whatever evidence is produced now it will be perceived as being influenced by russia or by syria i mean we've already seen the british government and western media if you like laying the ground for saying that russia had already pretty tampered with the site before the open c.w. comment so we can almost predict that if o.p.c. w find no evidence of chemical weapon use in that area the next line will be russia tampered with unsanitized and sprayed our fresh air around the site before a.b.c. w could get there. the joint or western strikes in response to the alleged chemical

attack appear to have strengthened bonds between two of the leaders behind them donald trump by name at all on the front. the president's visit to washington earlier this week stalled the flourishing of what times looked well judging by the body language like a true bro it's a. messy look. thank you. i like him a lot it's a great honor great honor that you are but we do have a very strong. relationship that is very very good that you should. be we have to make room for years for the french president also highlighted the blossoming friendship by giving trump an open succulent taken from a world war one side where u.s. marines helped repel a german offensive back in one thousand nine hundred eighty two here's another take on the new bond between the two leaders. in case you missed it donald trump and

emanuel mack on the found out he climbed the ladder down as a global politics and country home together. to get. french and american presidents also. holding hands and this being that second date even though the style kiss macron is the last foreign leader to be treated to a state visit to the u.s. funded from not even a special relationship with the reason they got the full statement that she was the one that started all this hand-holding business but these great presidents and their relationship. let's hear enjoyed a military parade for best deal day in paris last july so much that they held the syrian airspace couple of weeks ago using the. photog that nothing that western

alliance. these he's eating surrender monkeys can rub along the gulf. my phone pushed hard to claim credit for sending one hundred million dollars up a missile to destroy one hundred thousand dollars worth of syrian wows as long as this side this relationship looks pretty strange from the outside in the night of the barrio in philadelphia eagles talk. he won't be surprised by the length when somebody is to. call the two nations to her and told them global security and hannity are burying gold miners lost in the gulf and apparently other european leaders will not cross the trunk. because of the influence of the already one pretty some days against the doctor and french banks ten to twenty days us seven to ten cents.