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scene was tampered with because even if they delivered clean samples in this case gleaned from the russian point of view the west i think would easily come out and say that. there is nothing there simply because the russians killed all the evidence. yes but in the case of. actually there were not. specters who came into the samples yeah turkish side had provided them with lots of inconsistent. but. didn't prevent. joint investigative mechanism to. state that even after use of chemical weapons in tashi whom it was possible to analyze the samples and determined. you think that russia can rely on that kind of argument it's not really but the point is. a tickle yes you can clean the area but
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the use of chemical weapons and remember chemical weapons is not the one you. poison inject it into one person so you have to. eat a whole area to make the mass killing of people so that's chemical weapon if you do that so the whole area should be should be contaminated soil. building constructions and. a lot of. structures in the to clean it really clean it you have to probably demolish maybe couple of. blocks not even couple but maybe five ten blocks of the city you have to demolish and take it out so it's impossible to do that but it's not just samples this is witnesses this is hospitals this is victim you know there is a narrative of western narrative about two am. there we already see seemed out in the
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western paper suggesting that some of the witnesses have been under pressure from their side government anyway so we're going to have to take a very short break now but who will be back in just a few moments stay tuned. for . political leaders to be here to get a mass out of you started with a few food mostly funny but i did just that. when i left that i sat next to the markets and i'm hearing a lot of those. leave leave leave leave slow. and.
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you are not cool enough to buy their product. although for me along the border one. back scousers financial survival. housing bubble. oh you mean there's a downside to artificial mortgage truth don't get carried away that's cause report . welcome back to worlds apart with untold wealth can therefore my u.n. chemical weapons expert in iraq doctor the syrian file is over say no the only one that the a b c w is wrestling with this script all case is still going through the
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motions at the organization in terms of the procedural options open to them. is it looking better for russia or the u.k. at this point the longer the u.k. officials keep the results of investigation in secret so the more. capability they help to blame russia without any supporting evidence. the question is why this happens the point is first we see the right to know. that over seventeen different versions of how scruples were poisoned we see how. they determine where the chemical was produced and yet they also lied about their country of origin they still continue doing that and i think i correct me if i'm wrong but i would think that if there's
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any hope for russia to sort of constrain that it would be through using the o.p.c. w. makan is now my understanding and i may be wrong on that is that the u.k. from the very beginning wanted to create an impression of the o.p.c. w.-a being involved but it did not follow the formal of that it was through the technical secretariat rather through the through the formal procedure prescribed by the convention why would they do that and why would the o.p.c. w. agree to be engaged in such an unconventional way through the technical secretary at the rather than through you know challenge inspections and what have you. well. step by step first of all why do not it start to to. bring to politics. you first of all you have to understand actually killing one person is a criminal case so it's not the use of chemical weapons like brother for.
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military grade the nerve agent diverted on the territory rather of compassion in the literal for north korea was killed with v.x. that was military grade agent not the chalk was never proved to be chemical agent and if you take. w who considered in two thousand and eleven they said there is no confirmation that this is chemical . neutral agreed agent. it was in the interest of the u.k. to engage the o p c w i don't know that that then you can blame not just in the criminal case but you can blame the perpetrators in the use of chemical weapons which is much more aggravated position absolutely and actually this is wrong because. rather a kitchen who was killed with the expect nobody used. in this case so right
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now they start to use but they didn't call for inspection. use of chemical weapons they invite that office w. inspection even not the spectrum but their representatives. is a technical assistance and the only question that they put before the people was. if the chemical that we determined. to be used as a poison is correct or not so people. they checked this out yes this is correct structure of the chemical and eat but that allowed the u.k. to state the confirmed their suspicions against russia which was they were already called out on that but i saw you say in a previous interview. it was
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a mistake on the part of russia not to pursue article nine of the convention in a more forceful way do you think russia still has the procedural means to pressure the u.k. to provide all the evidence that it has because my understanding of why they didn't pursue the formal wrote this is because they would have had to provide all the you know intelligence information all the classified data in order to call for let's say inspection by using the technical secretary they don't really have to provide anything is that right well. according to. the article none. there is a procedure that you can request the state party and you can exchange information and consult with the body you for you do not. respect your answer you can go through the executive council if you do not get this abstract through council you can go up to the conference or state party do you think russia should call for this
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cause i believe that russia right now. according to the procedure so russia requests that information from the u.k. it didn't get the status five or so right now it is in position to make the same request. executive council no exact to council wouldn't vote for that so they would just. transfer the request to the u.k. and you can provide the answer. of council which will be transferred to russia so russia has to use. procedure that would show that russia full of international. weapons as is the bureaucracy better understand their correctly who pursues the bureaucracy. full of all the procedures of the convention like the kingdom now in one of your previous interviews you also said that the very categorical nature of britain's accusations against russia left it
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with no room for maneuver essentially london has no other way but to double down on its initial narrative regardless of how conflicting the evidence is and. i think that was perhaps a theme in the in our discussion on syria but and i'm going to ask you again do you think any amount of evidence any amount of testimony and due process following the rules is going to how to you this issue in a way that would be fair to all sides because from my position from my point of view what we have is that politico wrangling yet again nobody's really interested apart that act perhaps for russia in establishing the scientific fact that's exactly true russia really interested in the joint investigation and russia for it why. this is.
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a rhetorical know it happened with russian citizen russian according to the vienna convention relations has the right to communicate with russian citizens in any case but the united kingdom doesn't want to do that so no. details of the investigation i would like you to note one thing actually the recently. general director of w was interview. interviewed by pranks and he said very interesting thing that was the question why not agent was determined. to composed only in the blot. it was. supposed to be decomposed. met the bullies and.
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but they found decomposed in their blood in sure blood but not in the blood or who was exposed. or exported to the chemical agent so that was very strange because it is not clear how it happened a fresh agent was. not in the not the first inconsistency in these or any previous investigations i mean the very nature of the allegation that teresa mayes government made against russia i mean they are accusing us of lawful use of force by the russian state against the united kingdom this is an unprecedented allegation but when they made a decision to go ahead of that i soon that they have also made a calculation that they have what it takes to win this battle of narratives i suppose that they presume that they have and i france and i have enough. political ammunition to get what they want all right.
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some part of this battle but i. i was told that if you see a dead body and a person running with a knife around his body it doesn't mean the person you're trying to apply common sense to the situation when i think it's it's no longer play couple years all sad that the vienna convention is nothing to the u.k. authorities they couldn't care less about it is true but you have to understand the world is not clear right now or on the u.k. . several more western countries a lot of countries are watching this situation and they make a conclusion that actually any of them can undergo the same situation when they can be bloody blamed in the use of chemical weapons and they can distract with missiles on the reason and right now they see how russia is performing in this situation and
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they really have to understand who they are going to be for in this situation morell. let me ask you one more question about the questionable claims that the russian side has advanced i'm sure your heard the russian foreign minister statement about this labs discovery of the bees that toxin in some samples as well as speculations that the script symptoms are more consistent with that poisoning rather than over chuck's those claims were directly contradicted by the o.p.c. w. which said it was discovered and controlled rather than the actual samples do you think the bees that story is closed by now and do you think it was appropriate on the russian side to present the information in a way that was presented to be frank with you i believe that the explanation. is quite satisfactory they can do special control samples to make sure that
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it is. determined by both laboratories and they know exactly what. the russians were right to use the confidential information that they i assume received through some intelligence sources in such a way that would put the o.p.c. w. on the spot because russia does need the goodwill and called ration and of of the international body wasn't undermining that goodwill. in the situation without any evidence so what should. to do. the game one. hundred percent loser from the beginning russia is supposed to use any keys any fact any evidence to protect itself and to fight in this particular game well here saying is that desperate times call for desperate measures doctor was going to have to leave it there i really
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i. we were scared they started to pour water on me i don't know why they did this going on as professionals we saw that there were no symptoms suggesting chemical weapons had been used in the stories that shaped the way karen r.t. witnesses give testimony on the alleged chemical attack and. refused to listen also the leaders of north and south korea meet for the first time in over a decade to open a new chapter in the pentagon is history and the key witness in the russian doping scandal fails to confirm some of these allegations even though the careers of many russian athletes may have been ended by his claims.
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well i welcome the latest developments and look back at the last seven days to you watch the weekly here in r.t. international now this week locals including doctors from the syrian town of duma testified at the u.n. back to chemical watchdog headquarters in the netherlands they said they did witness no signs of an alleged chemical attack on april the seventh r.t. arabic located a boy seen in and verified white helmets video showing the supposed aftermath of the toxic strike he also gave evidence to the o.p.c. w. but not everybody wanted to hear what he had to say is not a explains when these reviews emerged pundits and politicians took them as gospel the truth conclusive indisputable and irrefutable proof of chemical since the chemical weapon that killed dozens of civilians and astaire's that the us had regime has previously used in chemical attacks the assad regime has
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used this same yellow gas canisters the n.s.c. telling fox news they have a high degree of confidence that it was yours they must have had solid evidence you don't just launch a hundred cruise missiles in an act of war without convincing proof beyond any doubt right right wrong. you know they have all right we were in the basement and then heard someone outside scream go to hospital we were scared they started to pour water on me i don't know why they did this. pundits and politicians who've never been to syria where it happened witnesses the locals who were there in the hospital in question say they didn't see a thing all the saw was white helmets dousing confused of aliens with water neither did the doctors see anything. on the seventh of april i was in the
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emergency room treating patients injured during the fighting the same day around seven pm we started receiving patients with breathing problems about fifteen cases this happened because people were in hailing smoke and they only show symptoms of choking and nothing more it all happened because one missile hit a building nearby and a lot of dust got into the hospital rooms with. the screams chemical weapons chemical weapons were used to create panic this lasted for about an hour we were treating the patients and then sending them home we had no fatalities or instances of people suffering from poisonous substances this isn't helping western journalists their leaders insist it happened syria russia and locals insist it didn't dead end usually when you put your mind to not a monologue if you don't understand normal language let's try a different way if you're impervious to arguments let us bring you the witnesses so
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russia aboard more than a dozen witnesses to the west to the u.p.c. w. and invited western press a perfect opportunity for journalists to get to the bottom of this right. right how low do you have to go to bring a little child all the way and threaten them right off the bat the nile but here's the what if we came here willingly we demanded the red cross allow us to come here . wrong in truth there isn't the right answer no matter what you say to some people no matter what you show them they'll never ever come around or change their views how threatened do you have to feel to change your story into the noise a chemical weapons attack stubborn doesn't do this fellow justice he's really the
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reason that the boy had to fly over the yes my son is young and it's been difficult for him to make it here a flight here is no easy thing so little has scientists told you the truth something you do not want to hear it was a necessary measure we needed to show that there was a line in a very dangerous one. anyone who hoped to be a breakthrough was in for a disappointment hours of testimony and the evidence all for naught that you mentioned in a russian press release that somebody here was going to be present to was a witness of producing the video of the white helmets and i was wondering where this witness is and if he can tell his testimony. it's my view all these witnesses we heard from today on the evidence the white helmets film is fake i don't know maybe i missed something. in one ear out the
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other with no pause in between more and ghastly of their we discussed this story today with independent research of an s. and p. lee has been to do more herself to collect people's testimonies. when i spoke to people in junior dr as medical star in the same hospital in the medical point that received victims on that night they all also told me exactly the same thing as people are now hearing in the hague and also when i went outside and spoke to civilians only seven hundred meters away from the alleged attack they were also all saying the same thing to me that there was no chemical weapon attack i am surprised and i'm shocked at the levels to which western media has stooped over this alleged event and the moral bankruptcy and degeneracy that was saying from western media i mean to accuse russia of basically exploiting
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a child in years. of eleven year old has and after western media has cynically exploited children throughout the history of this conflict and if we don't have to go back to far to remember that in east aleppo it is almost whatever evidence is produced now it will be perceived as being influenced by russia or by syria i mean we've already seen the british government and western media if you like laying the ground for saying that russia had already pretty tampered with the site before the open c.w. comment so we can almost predict that if o.p.c. w find no evidence of chemical weapon use in that area the next line will be russia tampered with and sanitized and sprayed our fresh air around the site before a.b.c. w could get there. while the joint western strikes in response the alleged chemical
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attack appear to strengthen bonds between two of the leaders behind them donald trump and a manual and judging by the body language seen during the french president's visit to washington this week it seems a bromance is brewing. messy look i. think you. are and i like him a lot it's a great honor of the year but we do have a very special relationship. to look at we have to make room for years for. the french president also highlighted the blossoming friendship by giving trump a symbolic sapling it was taken from a world war one site where u.s. marines helped propel the german offensive back in one nine hundred eighteen all that said though his another take on the new bond between. in case you missed it
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donald trump and emanuel on how the hanging out the crime the murder and as a global politics and sharing that country moment together gone to together. the french and american presidents also wheat is holding hands and this being that second date but even under the bridge style kiss macro it is the last foreign leader to be treated to a full state visit to the u.s. funded from not even a special relationship willing to resume a go the full state visit and she is the one that started all this hand-holding business but these grave presidents have forged their relationship. there and picked the jury enjoyed a military parade for best deal day in paris last july so much that they held a joint the syrian airspace couple of weeks ago using the assad regime for target practice but also in the western alliance will move to resist the cheese eating
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surrender monkeys of the iran on loan from god i'm not going to push to hard to claim credit for sending one hundred million dollars myside to destroy one hundred thousand dollars worth of syrian warehouses was inside this relationship looks like the strange from the outside do you know how the french demario enjoyed the eagles talk long. do you want to be surprised by the length of what he said there is to does not come close to two nations whole global security and here they are burying gold buyers walk in the garden apparently other european leaders will not create the trump. because of his influence over the already one pretty sunny day a seductive french accent to where he does us government sends them selves almost as bond over the middle east boyhood there is minor issues.
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