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go toward doughty dot com and on now. israel's prime minister binyamin netanyahu claims iran lied about its nuclear program to a large amount of supposedly secret data to prove it. why would a terrorist regime. and meticulously travel secret nuclear falls to small to use the word but. there are calls for donald trump to be awarded the nobel peace prize they need takes credit for the progress on the korean peninsula. and human rights organization accuses the israeli army often liberty targeting the legs of protesters. there's a full news bulletin with my colleague mori sushi heading your way at the top of the next hour but now an r.t. international pulse talk discusses the sudden prospect of lasting peace in korea
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while in the u.k. and ireland where the gating shines the spotlight on the british presence. following welcome across talk were all things are considered i'm peter lavelle we live in surreal times a short time ago even imagining a negotiated end to the tensions on the korean peninsula was a flight into fancy but here we are is this becoming a foreign policy victory for. cross talking trumps foreign policy i'm joined by my guest mark sloboda he's an international affairs and security analyst we also have exactly he is the founder
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of the center for political strategic analysis. and we have dimitri he is a political analyst with the international right gentlemen crosstalk rules in effect that means you can jump in anytime you want and i always appreciate exhibit let me go to you first we're going to devote a good part of this program to what's going on in the korean peninsula however the president of the country that you come from france was visiting the united states how would you sum up my crohn's visit because if you want my two cents it was quite humiliating for the french president quite a bit it's exactly the word to use and in my opinion again sure that. is a meeting with a different chief of state and in my opinion you had some remorse because it was in some mill yes. six or orientation and saw you played with him and he looked like he was being played with. i mean i think you
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know even if you're not really interested in politics the visuals of their encounter i mean it's gone viral and everyone's laughing i'm not trying to put a big sadly mark exactly. what did you get made of if you're. not trying to protect american but in my opinion what did a man or a triumph. isn't acceptable and in my opinion it's a mistake because it came really other free and. then you just given the evidence that. i can tell you because i mean we've been together this syria i guess haarp line was the try to dissuade him from going leaving the iran deal but he didn't get anything ok i mean anything you had to admit to media that well i mean i didn't change his mind but apparently he didn't make the claim not to these he made commit to staying in syria to remind me because when he was chosen by french people it was the american made is first speech just after
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being elected about. the u.s. . the problem is obama came as a president and obama i don't know why he did sarkozy because a good i didn't like him very much there is no god we don't bob. i don't know the cases when we're going to get. into it because it was i was supporting the republicans but the result is after one year a. understand that there we are friends of. course and of course he was a russian because when he came in russia and i hope it would be the same point we see in weeks when he came in russia you would. have to admit you know going back through history here his one of his foreign policy successes was to be involved in the mediation of ending this the conflict in south of. and you are going to file i
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don't know about body language but let's look at the facts that was the first to be believed all the major european countries seems to poll when trump came to power. and the leaders of the european union said that trump and putin where i'm quoting a threat to european democracy. that they were dangerous so when did drop stop to be dangerous not when he was in that's not being dangerous when he went hardball because you started when you started going syria he's got he's going to leave and it's going to go this is i don't really want to dig into korea let's get past the optics of the program ants from trump leading a log like like a newlywed or a little french poodle so the album cover the alternative rock album cover of them all planting trees in the yard together in very awkward very strange poses but you know the reality is right after that mccrone went and spoke to congress and spoke
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quite the heavenly against everyone. troublous policies and beliefs so you know i don't think trump was fault didn't get anything that he came out of there this was all about optics and these were bad and all of these all of these western media journalists commenting on body language and bringing in body language experts and everything it's all ridiculous it's all ridiculous but you know but you know more because i agree with it was ridiculous but that's kind of the default position when there is no substance and there was no you really must cross is now being hailed after merkel has failed as the new leader of the free world right the new leader of the free world just syria saying it was for the honor of the international community or at least if you're going to the three of the trump and his two client states that attack on syria they're on our side scan the psych's unicode sikes people also say part of his reason for doing it was to prove that he
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is the equal of. crime. you dear little globalist banks. you are no he's not american flag america obama barack obama during the last year of his. mandate as a president always expend no i win against putting put to never talk about it but he was always going no it's me. that's i when i when called pigeon chess crowd is a grand master of pigeon shit i mean if you're going to say this just be more your speed in my opinion at my core really want to be the white obama and if you if you listen to what he said when he was in the united states for instance it's the put it it's you were to save the planet once there is no plan it be some communications . he should have met with trudeau i think you've got to have been savvy i think he
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wants to be the eternal before. before. the first bromance is is between. ok all right i'm going to hold my nose on that when they're told let's talk about some real substance here. things are moving quite quickly on the korean peninsula. i've been following very closely like everyone else but i think there's a fundamental misunderstanding in western media about what's really going on because this is what's really going on is the koreans deciding their fate irrespective of who wants to take credit for. the line that the moon of a bomb gave to its article describing this meeting. and most hopeful and most hopeful korean summit with lead to a chance for final success. is building it in their senior year is ok i mean is the only optimistic had been just between koreans the problem would have been solved long ago we see that there is no real perineal anymore city there is no
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real between koreans the problem is not about north korea not been able to reform itself it is reforming itself the problem is with the west in the wars which in the last twenty years changed completely changed beyond recognition and which could not agree to any kind of compromise even if that allows you to lessen their nuclear danger the underlining claim that no one talks about mark in western media because most western media don't they don't know what they're talking about about anything most of the time is that the koreans made to determine their own destiny with outside power this is something that is hard to make in the swamp i've got three examples that bring that home for you the new york times the new york times has a twitter account the new york times at war which focuses on their war do they had an article. the with cameras rolling careers leaders
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put a piece false. propaganda. into the new york times at war head there was the moments in which kim and mr moon stepped on the border was one of several images that displayed both countries understanding of the propaganda value of political theater well this is a cautionary warning about peace from the new york times at war and number two the fortune magazine fortune magazine south korea and north korea handshakes peace talks hurt u.s. defense stocks ok who's here isn't winning from the god forbid the five largest u.s. military industrial complex contractors lost ten point two billion dollars in one day who will cry when when peace occurs to lockheed martin northrop grumman general dynamics raytheon and boeing and last but not least i give you a reporter from the u.s.
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military stars and stripes newspaper bob reid he commented north and south korea agree on denuclearization of the peninsula but fall short of specifics which is true yet is president moon seeking a separate peace with the north side stepping the all important u.s. security interests he's this isn't this is what this is what western media and the think tanks they can't comprehend it's not about them this is their real big problem you know it's very interesting is that the north korean regime if we can use that word this is a very calculated plan on their part and they understood what happened in libya they understood what happened in iraq ok so they come to the peace table strong and it's important and with nuclear weapons and with the goal of maintaining their sovereignty i don't understand what's going on in the think tanks in washington
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d.c. this is patently obvious as it gets ok there is contrary we have talked to. talk to north korea is russia. china and china is a special. of interference but if there is a reconciliation between north and south korea. the us. u.s. troops still stay you have any idea how much of a year. it's not only and not only in south korea in japanese japan but the japanese don't want to see this kind of in oh they don't because they are historical at the moment he's due to careers and. that would be the major bills and not just the united states because i don't think it's in the united states' national interest to have three areas permanent the station right next to north korea years and there has been. the pentagon begun to
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interest me. unfortunately if you don't let me jump in here we're going to go to a short break and after that short break we'll continue our discussion on some real new stay with. anything editor of free trade are up straight and i think interim street is a reversion back to new littlest and we see that happening right now by states and presumably here in canada as well as concentrate on this your for your hands bradley i work for the risk of neil seattle is on the rise crypto is the answer in my view and it is an asset class and it is gobbling up market share and the u.s. dollar is all three our money is. welcome
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back to crossfire all things considered i'm peter lavelle to remind you we're discussing some real news. ok gentlemen stay with us on the korean peninsula one of the things i think is interesting again looking at how washington and reads this in the think tanks is
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that the there's the possibility of a tantalizing possibility that they can slip north korea to be the end to join the western camp which i think is really interesting is that first of all that is not going to happen and it's probably going to be the other way around south korea and we have this new government very popular seventy five percent approval rating last year we had massive protests against the former government against their policies these are the north korea and the moon it has got all these ducks lined up and so does kim and i think we should focus more on this internal affair among the korea i mean i looked at some of the pictures here i was quite moved to be honest with you having watched this for so many decades but the cultural thing which really you know really brought them they are the same they really are they come from the same origins of the other there was a very nice touch here i think it's we could see them. becoming the finland is
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ation. of. time in two thousand president of south korea. yes well in fact we should not forget who started the whole thing there were meetings between the north korean and south korean presidents in the year two thousand in the year two thousand and seven. the group that scrapped the whole peace process was the new conservative government of south korea recently by you know the former president who is now basically was sentenced to a few years for corruption so people in korea why is there such an approval rating more mungy in people want peace you know the south korean government conservative government that scrap the peace process is no longer popular i don't think it was popular when they did these things and now there is hope again and who is destroying that hope the global west in order to collect all of you know how
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everything this flip to you will be liberals used to be for praise you know you know if it were true. the west. syria two weeks ago and never bone loss in korea because of nuclear weapons you want to have party federation of. weapons thanks to west khadafi and saddam hussein can concur on that one right there and we. had no prejudice against sarkozy on the wake up bomb and look what happened there in great peril he took his money do we have seen this before there have been substantial photo ops between north and south korean leaders so we're going to hope the one who markets right let's be skeptical that we have to be skeptical but there are there are three things that i think make this situation different than the others and do give me real signs of hope one and the first and most important is that north korea. obtained
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a credible strict deterrent they successfully developed a nuclear program nuclear weapons and a linear missiles right they could deliver of them they got everything they wanted they had but the strategic target they could now stand back cancel tests and that's why they came to the peace table with leverage from a position of strength secondly we have a south korean leader who god bless them is willing to see this and still come to the table with a reasonable rational way of dealing with it because he genuinely wants peace and he is hated. moon is hated in the d.c. blob and military establishment is despised there and third i'm sorry we have a u.s. president who is incompetent right we could wear whatever much may be said you could not credit trump promising fire and i elation on north korea as having
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achieved this now i know that both the south korean the north korean leaders have credited him there's a reason for that it's because they don't want him to ruin it and they're hoping that by buying him into the process as part of the one who brought it about then it will be harder for the u.s. to sabotage it and the u.s. has long been the biggest single obstacle to and this is one of the reasons why i think this is why the north koreans also said much the surprise of many people that they don't demand an immediate evacuation withdrawal of all american forces because it was based right phase three nuclear nation they do know that you can't make that demand be gone by the weekend that's going to be. they are not going to give up any substantial part of their nuclear program until they start to see elements of actual demilitarisation on the south korean and american as it is going to be. it's going to be a long competence building process i mean to undo sixty eight years of conflict and
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strife here but you know it's containing from you did the same the syria twenty two times the first shutting three thing and finally you send some bones. more or less where they are going to fall and it is exactly the same way. in korea three. you know i would argue i would argue that trump walked right into kim's gambit this is this has been in the works mark's absolutely right. secure you you know how to deter secure your sovereignty have options have a backer the chinese to some extent russia i mean if we look at what's being proposed right now were people getting all up and allowed to go to the united nations security council at the end of last year when they had a round of sanctions against north korea and the the ambassador from russia the ambassador from china read these very long statements no one in the west listened
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to them they listened to the garbage and the history is to run its western and bouncers there but this plan it was announced at the end of last year is being put into place right now if we see some genuine pro progress on this definitely both leaders of north and south korea for the nobel peace prize but they'll have to trumpet to the no no let me also way we're at a day going to go bob look for no reason ok people to other people who did help bring it about deserve credit are putin and you. well you know i don't expect i don't expect that's going to happen if you try and get some with the u.s. media suggested then i would say this is in the same chain with gorbachev and without bomb you know what happened to that country that they blessed with a peaceful activities so that you get to the e.u. not so long ago and. that's what it really was it just seemed like a it was
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a sight. to try. doing. frightening you know when you started to do three things. you should do. in the united states what could be done you're going to do you know you're right and i don't know because that's what i said in my introduction i mean not long ago this would have been a flight into fancy because there is this inability to think in different ways we were talking about war just a few years ago you know but maybe maybe because i can't accept that trump is a stupid and. i would like to imagine that you know. i don't think he's stupid i mean i've always said. i'm more concerned with the company but he keeps ok i mean we have john bolton around that's a very dangerous character. analyst and policy maker that to my mind he's never gotten anything right ever in his entire career ok let me get my coffee.
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on the tourist guy that kisses up and spits down spits people they don't agree with him ok he's under list and let's not forget that mike pompei o was that was despite being a christian fundamentalist and supporting of torture got enough democratic votes to be approved as the secretary and. i guess his first official trip is huey is. to north korea and although he wasn't secretary of state he was he met with the saudi arabia saudi arabia he also has had meetings and i'm afraid that pompei o is trying to own this process and that scares me even more than trump because because he will try to sabotage it from another specialist of the united states of course but couldn't we imagine that donald trump has to give something. this year i hope. that's what he gave them. actually been what nothing but we
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don't even have the missiles it works you. financially it was the most disastrous thing in the world because they spent two hundred thirteen million in order to destroy one. hundred thousand dollars water over syria and some storage of. the ones they destroyed the seventy six. plant surely you know. we run a point that is really. very. shooting for instance. maybe it's a way for trump to get sometimes before the next election i mean the thought of congress and those of representatives in november because if the pro trump republicans win the primaries it is a win. on those representatives so maybe we have the beginning of the trump
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administration. you mentioned this key word win and this is what he wants a win yes this is he needs a win win. this is detention we have home pay you bolton we have always confused nikki haley ok always confused and we have trump wanting this is too great tension right now they don't they don't need it we actually need is not to lose so badly that they lose control of the house and the senate and this is why the neo cons own the administration because there are enough neo cons that if trump made a serious divergence from a stablish us military policy around the world there's enough neocon votes to side with the democrats to impeach him now that's why all these neo cons have been appointed around trump because they own the administration by threat of blackmail impeach forty second street well i just don't know how all of that is going to pass
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legally because we have just heard that there was no clear trauma russia going and then what happens to all of these sanctions let me remind you that the first sanctions but introduced because of that russian with crimes can pain so if there are no but never prove accusation and know that sanctions are going to stay even though the reason for them has been officially declared by the house as you know wrong even remembers now the reason for the sanctions only that russia needs to be sanctioned three gentlemen that's all the time we have for this segment of the program. many thanks to my guest here in moscow this is the end of our broadcast segment stay with us for the extended version on our you tube channel see you next time and remember.
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