welcome to the party u.s. president donald trump has until may twelfth decide whether to make good on his threat to the rand deal potentially a pending hears of international diplomacy and setting the ground for yet another conflict how seriously is that threat taken intact and should the american be accommodated if peace is at stake while to discuss that i'm now joined by. johnny had of iran's high council for human rights and deputy off international affairs in the. mr larijani it's a great pleasure great honor talking to you thank you very much for your time thank you but let me start with the news of the day and this is a concern in many corners of the world that the united states is going to read meat on its obligations on that iran nuclear deal concerned even more acute following the appointment of the new secretary of state in the united states does

it make any difference as far as iran is concerned in who had the state department whether it is john kerry rex tillerson or mike compare for that better. view. you know this. is it doesn't matter to march the tactics or the. movie different the. nuclear. war was done. because you wanted to prove the american claim was false following nuclear weapons at all by the. use capability on the nuclear technology for peaceful purposes but no it is a perv and the americans want to use. nuclear technologies as a pretext to pressure of a mouse it doesn't my. that we are barred by the private market i think it will

definitely be not in the interest of united this american gets out of this part then the fact is this because it is five plus one parked now the current american president expressed he's dissatisfaction of of the oil a long before he took office and yet in more than a year since his inauguration there's been a lot of bellicose rhetoric but very little in the way off action and your own calculus why do you think donald trump hasn't walked out of this deal already if he indeed intends to do that well there are two fires number one. don't know trauma's a man of bluffing not a man of realize actions so we know we are accustomed with american bluffing for over forty years and this is an extent in one second lou you know the decision is to extract more concession from me wrong on the regional issues he is absolutely

wrong it doesn't help and it was successful and now the american president doesn't exhibit their very reach for a cabbie larry in describing this deal he simply calls a very bad i wonder what words would iran use in characterizing the two thousand and fourteen agreement you spend a lot of man hours negotiating it did it come out as good or good enough for you was definitely we do not consider this paragraph. a magazine move up to more position. but definitely is now than i did the whole logic that we accepted these limitations on your own capability and development is to prove to the world of america where there rest claims an allegation against iran this is wrong no that it doesn't prove the they are wrong and the problem. agency in more

than ten reports endures the arraigning compliance you see that what the american are saying so this is a blasphemy this is corruption and the hypocrisy of the of the american foreign policy but on i want to say that. you know either this theory should not enter the will if they enter the will they would be the loser they would see that very soon as well as speaking about the potential loss perhaps for all of us president trump specifically mentioned that he and his soon to be secretary of state mike compare tend to see eye to eye on many issues particularly the iranian policy and back in two thousand and fourteen mr peo advocated military action to fully destroy the iranian nuclear capacity do you see it as a credible threat well i don't think the american are in the position to another

military engagement in their area already those who have a started before they are unable to manage to get out but to start an attack on iran may not be very difficult but they won't be the one who will dictate the end of that they will receive a very harsh lesson which may be good for them for the historical. so indulging in a military duty against iran is not an easy thing for united states while they are facing ground failures in the region enough on the song in the persian gulf area another chance now president trump employed a similar strategy all threats of blackmail with north korea only to announce last week that he is willing to sit down and at the north korean leader do you think the uranium leadership would be open to a similar turn of events a personal meeting with donald trump to renegotiate oprah have simply reinterpret

the terms of the standing agreement i think his standing argument should be complied fool by you know this that you know i do this news and also some of the european allies like the britain government are following the hypocritical approach to this this pact. both of them are most complying with. their obligations under the specs the first. secondly we are in no way interested to talk with. the government you know this suit does not have any credibility in his promises and his signatures so. this is another third important point americans are afraid of the influence of iran in the region. oh influence is not military influence for this is a moral political influence it cannot be destroyed by bombs it can not be destroyed

by military action i think americans should redefine that interest in the region their interest in the region is defined in a very strong and not feasible way mr larijani you just mentioned that you believe teheran has no interest in organizing this presidential meeting between. the leaders of the two countries but i don't know trump is a very particular character he i think he is very easily influenced by his emotions and your neighbors for example israel is making a good the use of that i know that the iranian diplomacy has a very very good tradition of being very very skillful negotiators don't you think that a meeting between mr trump or let's say mr rouhani could be useful not a new way of renegotiating the terms but simply. trying to establish number for while first of all as you mentioned how diplomacy is basic feature is consistency

your not absolute around different issues when doing time we have a vision and we can follow that vision which is corporation and peace in the vision consistently yes we are capable to negotiate to negotiate hard stuff on hard matters but the point is who is the other side the other side is a country which does not have any credibility you cannot you cannot put your finger when any promise of the. they commit to that so we are think there is no need to this there is no fruit to this negotiation now it is well known that other signatories to the j.c.b. away including russia are eager to preserve these deal in the in its current form is there anything that they can do to encourage iran to respect it even if the

americans under the current leadership walk away while one if americans walk away this pact is there but out is that this you can truce with the russia and china no number of other countries definitely we will have our own solution for the problems that we face this cooperation want to stop with the parent or without the pact it will continue but mr larijani i think there are lots of people in moscow who would share your disdain for the way the americans conduct their foreign policy but i think that does know that solve russian or ranee and responsibility to being committed to both regional and hopefully global peace should we give it so easily today americans to rag the result of you know several years of negotiations should be allow mr trump to kill this deal no diffidently we. we should prove to mr frum that he will be

a loser and they won't get into march why walking away from this pact we have we'll known a strategy we have very much calculated the strategy we can come from the situation very powerful and i think the russian policy both in the region and international community especially reserve the nuclear project is very rational we support the position we have various close collaboration with the government of russia now speaking about the russian regional a policy there is some concern in moscow that the trumpet ministration may choose to try and turn the course of the syrian war by launching yet another unilateral strike on damascus and the russians have already sad that would meet a retaliation i'm sure of that will see a unilateral strike by the united states as an act of a russian but i'm also sure that you have little interest in seeing a major clash between nuclear powers in your on your own borders or what is your

understanding of what a proportional reaction to american aggression in syria could be i think americans and love the european allies of united states is very much watching observing that this that that you totally fail that there's a cynical a strategy of this integrating a sovereign country like syria has faced totally i think the collaboration between iran and russia definitely proved both internationally acceptable more or less support of who and very successful one we are we won't be afraid of this type of activity definitively we want to see that as much as possible the number of involvement of americans in syria. it should be decreased also should bestow

american. presence in syria northern part of syria is illegal it is against international law he scored different from the russian collaboration with the syrian government which is based on mutual acceptance reliance. america's war one good and the thing by bombardment the selective targets they favor is better to money. rather than to advance the gresham but mr larijani what i'm asking you about is not so much about the american actions but about what actions should russia take in response to this potential act of aggression you you mentioned that you believe and i think again this assessment is shared by many in moscow that the american strategy in syria has failed but an argument could be made that that would make the united states even more predisposed to desperate actions or. actions that could attract the attention of the world because i think we would both agree that

donald trump has a propensity towards showing off so if indeed he proceeds with delivering and not a strike on syria how do you think russia should respond why. none of us knew iran or russia they have interest in expanding the military conflict i thought i was very determined is supporting the russian people and the russian government to defend their land the russian position especially has been warded by president putin is very acceptable and russian all they say that to definitely they won't tolerate any threat to the years russian presence in this syria i think this is quite rational position america should not gamble on that they should not under under the skin of the there's a flash of resolving in defense of his personality and this is that this huge presence but anyhow what is the term mental is not some selective

strikes what is the term mental is the determination of the people and those who are on the ground fighting to liberate the syria from the verminous of his usual part of the terrorist group supported created lead armed by the americans and british and the us well mr larijani we have to take a short break now but we will be back in just a few moments stay tuned. what politicians to do something to. put themselves on the line to get accepted or rejected. so if you want to be president if you. want. to. proceed it's like a three and a more people. interested in the war.

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back to worlds apart with muhammad have i played it johnny had ever run high council for human rights mr larijani you're joining us from geneva where where you took part in the thirty seventh session of the united nations human rights council which once again chose to focus its attention on the human rights situation in iran meetings like these are fairly regular the critics of your country are all the same their grievances and complains are well rehearsed i wonder though if you found this meeting any different from all the previous ones. you mentioned. we participated in of the sanction to speak of use of both human rights i'm also the critics which is low of the against us and also the behavior of united as there's a number of european gangs while human rights regardless of american or. european

support. by itself is a valuable barometer of civility so regardless of their position we are going to promote human values in the country and or democracy but american type of human rights. it's a corrupt notion in which the human who is we swapped with petro dollars in the vision who do we swapped with political influence take the example of yemen you see the genocide there were going on with larger scale of millions of people live and then just look who is supporting who american and british and the number of other european countries they are very generously lend their support to the aggressor even directly they participate in the press aside so what

kind of human rights is in which to live of million children a woman does not count well let me ask you a specifically about that because when the issue of human rights in iran is raised you never for a fail to mention what you just said that the united states and europe i'm not qualified to pontificate on human rights because of their own record of murder in a number of countries but you know very well that they easily dismiss your argument as briskly as you dismiss theirs do you think they're still any of room any space any form of laughter in within the international system for a genuine and open discussion on how various governments around the world trade their citizens rather than this nonstop circle of condemnations and recriminations the united nation is not. an institution. belonging to neither state is the institution for

a whole nations of the world secondly yes this is one road no the u.p.a. are mechanism of united nations security council here my advice is rather acceptable method of monitoring every country with a selective method without using double standard to every country should be. unsellable to the situation human rights in the zone country united this is britain and europe are boiling in racism and in violence their record own citizens they don't own citizens are very dire and miserable the lives of the crimes they are committing them so yes then or mechanism right now and could be better mechanism we should join hand to hand to stop this corrupt notion of human drives which is pursued by you know this that europe's and the strive for free

human rights there is one issue of human rights that is particular close to my heart and this is the issue of veil that has long been of symbolic significance both to iran's religious leaders and their harshest critics in the west and in this debate. where men who have to wear this cards usually have a much lesser say that the man who advance their religious or ideological positions i mean i know that there have been a number of. individual projects in iran in support of the woman's right to choose how she she wants to dress do you see that as a foreign plot or do you see that as a genuine movement both of them are three issue is the limits of nudity is not the enforcing his job. well whether nudity should have a limit in the public places or not so definitely according the law for men and women they should abide by the limits of nudity in the public places while

if you know if you walk into two wrongs the street corners you see the women's games and also boards are rather carrying putting very casual dresses on nobody's following them and pursue them but if there is an organized activity you. this time by the britain a number of american six are services we want to create a social upheaval. on the. pretext while we are very sensitive we will definitely respond to that this is not a private single act when it becomes an organized action led by the external sixer services definitely come from well mr larijani i do not represent any secret service including russian but i can tell you that having been

to your beautiful country during its excruciatingly hot summers i can tell you that it is deeply uncomfortable for me if we still being obliged to wear a headscarf and i know that your country i believe at least that your country's very good as far as social participation of women is concerned i think there has been a lot of. progress in that regard than recent decades and i think customs and laws do you change i mean they change in every country do you think there will ever come a moment when they rainy and religious leaders or the iranian democracy will give its women and. its foreign female visit there is the right to decide whether they want to cover their hat on up while as you mentioned this is the law also and then think the change in the laws should go through the legal the structure and the legal look for artists while i'm not in a position to dictate to the people of iran through what way they should choose for

the change the legal process as far as the lawyers everybody should respect but next time in tehran when you are in the summer i will have screwed recommendation for a few to refrain from the heat i think go with desired no the issue for the women in tehran and iran as you know the number of educated women i had no superseding the men but i would know they demand a job. they demand job and they demand the positions and i think they are in the very good environment so this is actual think if we should pave the way for the women of wrong for women in iran to acquire position harvest standard of influence in the society in which they are moving fast well but there there is this yes and no then necessarily in contradiction president rouhani has office recently released their two thousand and

fourteen report that courting to reach forty nine point eight percent of iranians oppose a government intervention to enforce the veil and in a democratic society i know that iran considers itself a democracy almost half the population that is a number to be reckoned with are they likely to be reckoned with in iran. you know that the palling system could not replace the legal system if present draw news reaching the position of the should be a change in the law he should prove present the bill and send it to the parliament and then they should follow through but are don't think that this maybe this is correct or liable as you said i think right now the major issue for the women in tehran is is their job and their social position suppose a woman is a minister this is more important than or

a virus minister or director general or a c.e.o. of a company this is more important for them then how they should dress either to cover this head or to cover the rest of their bodies so i think this issue should be considered as it is you should not look at it from a cultural bias or culture and why much is different from card to iranian even before islam. the iranian women are very much covered so why are so this is a cultural issue. we cannot formulate one prescription and impose it to war all countries yaar. well mr larijani you just said that to be cannot formulate one prescription for all but i would argue that this is exactly what iran is doing at the moment one prescription for all women regardless of their cultural or religious background or of that preferences anyway i earlier this month

a woman who removed her house karf and public was sentenced to two years in prison for attempting according to the prosecutor to encourage moral corruption and through the removal of the hitch up in public now you can see me right now but i'm not wearing a have scarf if any of your compadre it's see this interview do you think i or you by engaging in this conversation can be accused of encouraging moral corruption no not the top yeah you are talking from the culture of that you are in that you respect and i am talking from the cultural background for my country which i respect so first of all that indictment is not for taking a scarf out of there the few working there are new see a lot of ladies you may not hold the scarf on their head all the time as they say. involvement and indulges in organized activity which is led by outside secret

service is the point that led you were surely you have kids has not finished the courts you rule. and this is the prosecutor's position but then you know the final say with the court are i think definitely the point the allegation is being within within that all the mars activity which is led and supported and funded by the food in the secret service is so this should be cleared up she should she should she has the capability. of having a lawyer of defenders of this you proved him our action was a personal archon. of the most action led by the secret service is from britain especially then. to be clear for them that allegation

well mr larijani next time i am in texas. i will try to follow your advice remove that house scarf as a personal act anyway let's hope that this interview will not put us in the a cross hairs of the iranian prosecution especially since our time is up thank you very much for your willingness to spend some time with us and i also encourage our viewers to chime in with dire thoughts on their proper edness of this discussion on our social media pages as for me to syria same place same time here on worlds apart .

so what we've got to do is identify the threats that we have it's crazy to from day shouldn't let it be an arms race. spearing dramatic development that only personally i'm going to resist i don't see how that strategy will be successful very critical time to sit down and talk. with this manufacture consent to public will. when the ruling classes protect themselves. with the fine merry go round. we can all middle of the room sick. in the real news

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