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way back when huber exact knowledge ehrman journalist and author of the documentary film i put in discussing what vladimir putin is like in the eyes of the world so in your movie you highlight the beginning of put in its first term his visit to bundestag where he talked about russia not being an equal partner in the west eighteen years later and we're still not partners why do you think nothing changes in this regard. it's a good question i can find the answer about what i would start you remember before he spoke in the blender stock sink two three months before the first time he met george bush and there was this meeting. george bush said basically looked in the eyes in his eyes and got a sense of his soul you remember that i remember and i remember all of against.

mccain said i looked in his eyes and i saw three letters k.g.b. if i remember this correctly that put bush at the same time added at the so into is all the cities direct and create interest for his country so. three months later two months later i think it was in the church of bundestag. it was an interesting talk but the main the main point he said ok he said we are talking we want to get to come together but at the same time we distrust each other and we have hiding and we are trying to play games and i think from the very beginning on that from two thousand onward up till today there is this distrusts about intention and at the other hand there is obviously the core the coalition of interests and interests are the main point in the whole in the whole in the whole fight here i think up till two thousand. eight more or less. we were trying to get along

then we had two thousand and eight georgian war and then we had the ukraine as well it was always on one side the fight for democracy and freedom and on the other side the evil reconstruction of the soviet union but it was at the same time of course interest the history you put it it's of a country is basically food by the history of a country by geopolitical interests cannot make interests current of events but you have to take this into account and russia had this and the west had that it was very complicated it was a misunderstanding from the very beginning i think there was no a cream and after the collapse of the soviet union when was it in december one thousand nine hundred one that russia would be no become another part of the west it didn't work out their interests and i think the west miscalculated this interest

and played their own includes only to russia of course to try to get through with its interest and put in both the one who was underestimated but he pushed it through tearing this latest scandal around the script outposts and to resume for instance present it russia where then are to meet him and that's not like a first time west speaks to russia like that moscow's reply has always been done talk to us like this don't tell us what to do this keeps repeating in russia west relations this problem of condescending lecturing and in a moralistic tone why. why is a good question. i think it's depending on. the moment you are in the very and i think this is simply political i could taste but it's not about the tone it's about the methods i mean you see the arab countries like or like india or china are always in

a lot more neutral in the way they communicate and we notice that i was very careful with words why why do you think the west western politicians are so prone to public scolding of others to. the teacher like behavior i think that we watched russia to a certain extent as a kind of you know handicapped school students and who have the reach so to speak. the level to to to to to become adults i think that was an early attitude in the ninety's and to a certain extent it is still an attitude and on the other side it's a political weapon we still forget that russia is that russia is grown up they are not under eighteen anymore but at the same time as we argued in the ninety's you have to do this you have to do that you have to and if you do that it will work this is you never changed because we consider us as having won the cold

war and that gives us a kind of. moral superiority and the other the other hand the response of russia is quite there are direct to you have a national national proud at the same time. which tells you go to hell. do you think the west has come to grips with the fact that russia is not irrelevant anymore like it was after the soviet union collapsed. they have to because we have a multi-polar world and not so much uni polar anymore doesn't matter to whom you are talking to if you talk to a call she will tell you. with some hesitation nevertheless but she will tell you we have to talk with russia because russia is an important player and without russia you don't get the. new treatment in syria that in the meantime we have so

many different players at the same time that neither america nor russia can guarantee find a solution but the condition is they have to talk to each other to get a final solution to convince the others around them to help them you have iran you have turkey you have saudi arabia you have a number of players in the meantime and that makes the situation so dangerous because. you never know how of when the escalation so to speak. reached is its final point and you something is happening and probably it's an escalation you don't want but you get if you look back to syria on the very moment you had an escalation of words but at the very end you have in the meantime what number of destroyed buildings no russian have been hurt and probably now is the chance to talk i think it's a very good chance in the very moment to find

a solution together because everybody sees it's not working that way germany is a country that is very close to russia and especially with pins german past and that relationship is very important saying how it's germany at the forefront of the european union angela merkel and putin also have a relationship that endured through the years is this sanctions story the confrontation going to destroy that relationship completely. i don't think that's that's destroyed completely i think both people are rational politicians and we see in the very moment what i mentioned just before we have a big chance in the very moment to come to terms because you know we have issues like north stream to the gas from russia to sherman e. we have syria at the same time we have an unreliable american partner at the same time so within europe we have difficulties and i think we have to solve

some problems only together and we have to do that so the situation is quite good i would say even it doesn't look like that and the market is going to has been going to washington mark wrong has been going to washington. if it's true that putin got an invitation i don't know yet but that gives us the chance to lean back to see what is our what our interests and to find a solution i think it's better than we think the funny thing in between is us journalists by the way the russian ones and the german ones there was an interesting in research being done just recently that as far as foreign policy is concerned all the journalists are trying to stick to their governments and increase the trama so to speak on the other side it's not so much to in the as far as interior parting says concerned but obviously in foreign policy you have.

traumatization by. the journalists on both sides as well so in your movie putting was described as a man whose mind is not easy to change and who doesn't forget insults or double crossings do you think this personal trait of peace will do way to political consideration will he forget the confrontation with the west if i chanced is offer to end this conflict confrontation you know you don't have to forget it but you have and i don't think that he will forget it but he is a rational person on the other side as well and he knows exactly how politics works and what is needed if you want to have a long time solution now it is its last term so he has another. six years to fix things which went wrong to

a certain extent it's not only depending on him definitely not but he has this jobs and after such a long time of confrontation on both sides why shouldn't he use that as this kind of testimony so to speak and he is a rational man so i don't see why he wouldn't do that that the interesting thing is . you don't have to take everything personal what happens in politics if you do that then you are lost and in the last. breath thank you very much for this interesting insight and we're talking to hubert siple german journalist and author of the documentary film i put in discussing how the world sister russian leader and how his affects russia's relations with the rest of the world that's it for this edition of sophie and call see you next time.

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with the deadline for. nuclear agreement britain's foreign minister heads to washington to save the deal. but. to be killed hundreds of interpreters who work for the british army in afghanistan to face deportation from the u.k. even though they were promised asylum by london. we speak to one of those affected . being sworn in as president. after winning the election in the run up to the. sneak peek inside the.

palace where the ceremony is taking place. it is monday may the seventh and just after nine o'clock in the morning here in moscow you are watching international news team here a very warm welcome to you. the british foreign secretary is making a last minute efforts to persuade donald trump to stick to the iranian nuclear deal boris johnson is currently on a two day visit to washington where he'll meet with senior ministration officials. takes a closer look at europe's efforts to change his mind. terms of parent intention of dropping the iran nuclear deal later this week has sent the international community into overdrive there are now two competing influence campaigns playing out keep it and kill it seemingly testing out the theory third time's a charm the british foreign secretary boris johnson is in washington and

a last ditch effort to save the pact from trump's wrath that's after the leaders of france and germany had no luck whatsoever isn't that we believe it's better to have this agreement even if it's not perfect and you have no agreement. with. the iran deal is not sufficient to see that iran's ambitions are curbed and contained it is most important to recognize is that iran through its ballistic missile program is trying to exert geo political influence in syria and lebanon. the solid robust verifiable agreement that guarantees that iran has nuclear weapons to denounce it without proposing anything else would be a serious mistake not respecting it would be irresponsible. and we should acknowledge that the current agreement doesn't allow us to address all of the issues among the things not covered by the iran nuclear deal is iran's

activity in the region. this by going in with iron resolve both the chrono and merkel and it up looking like they were just trying to pander to the u.s. leader and although boris is set to meet with trump's vice president and his hawkish new national security advisor those two will likely try to browbeat johnson into accepting this is a bad job and doomed deal i don't see that there's any prospect of a real fix to this deal i think the deal is inherently flawed i think it's a strategic the buckle for the united states the iran nuclear deal is a disaster and the united states of america will no longer certify this fuel can see. the only hope france germany and the. case seemed to have is to push for a compromise with trump simply tweaking the existing agreement but perhaps we're not seeing the whole picture here maybe the problem for america actually goes deeper than this one pact we've got a president. a president who doesn't listen to. the people who are

naysayers and a president that is as true to regime change as we are. meanwhile pushing the white house to abandon the agreement is the israeli prime minister whose country is in the signatory netanyahu just last week gave a pretty dramatic power point presentation on iran's secret nuclear program which turned out to be both not secret and non-existent still b.b. is flying to moscow in the coming days to try and get his message across to president putin the kremlin has been clear on its stance however so with both sides battling it out everything for now is still up in the air this deal took years of exhaustive negotiations to reach and surely none of that included worrying about what the next guy in the white house thought but if one naysayer is all it takes to bring them down maybe it sends the message that all landmark international agreements should be structured to only last for one presidential cycle it shows that the united states foreign policy is not based on responsibility but it's based

on force the u.n. has no place other world powers are not given enough room to play a major actors in the us foreign policy and this shows major failure for diplomacy in resolving global issues like nuclear problem that's the main message of the kind of policy that has been adopted by donald trump. hundreds of interpreters who worked with the british army in afghanistan facing the threat of deportation from the u.k. that is despite a promise from britain that they would be allowed to stay and we spoke to one of those affected he says the only thing that awaits him back in afghanistan is death . if they deport me back there is only one times for me to be killed he doesn't know when but the u.k. home office has informed abdul bari that he's going to be deported to kabul within

the next three months abdul says he can't go back to afghanistan because he worked as a frontline interpreter for british forces from two thousand and eight to two thousand and ten my life was in danger my family life was in danger threatening me they told me that you know that you joined the infidels. you've been talking about there was only one chance for me and i must leave the country. so can target but the main target was for the family so if they catch me they would definitely just leave the country the british defense secretary gavin williamson has made headlines in recent days by telling the home office that afghan interpreters should be allowed to stay in the u.k. but that reassurance only refers to around four hundred forma interpreters who had been given five d.a.q. tavi says they expire soon and all the authorities have done in reality is say that

they'll waive the costly renewal fees so those celebrator you headlines don't applied to the six hundred or so former afghan interpreter is still in kabul who have had their asylum claims rejected nor do they applied to the handful of complicated cases relating to former interpreters who were forced to flee and entered the u.k. illegally like abbeville all of us are delighted that those who've had their criteria and their families are here and will stay here and that nobody paid any money there are still people who are being looked at and we need to be careful that we don't let it fall through the dense we have a debt of honor to these people and what we mustn't do is leave someone who actually worked for us looked after. has helped us we mustn't leave someone like that in a position where they and their families will be at risk and we've got to be very clear make sure we don't do that abdul says he didn't have time to apply for a visa through the official interpreter scheme while he was still in the couple

that with pride months of waiting and his life was taken creasing at risk now abdul's lawyer is appealing the home office's moves to deport him many interpreters got these fish directly from afghanistan through the ministry defense relocation was very strict criteria that required you to be. working in helmand province and to be made redundant on a raft the nineteenth of december twenty twelve a lot of people i missed the. word working in two thousand and twelve because they were threatened and targeted by the taliban hard to quit their jobs and flee it's not really fair to make this journey to the you care to escape these threats to be told actually go home they're saying it's safe for him to read we have evidence from former employees not just from the british army but they also he was working with and be in kabul what he really cared to the originator of. but evidence

suggests he was threatened in kabul. and. the same will happen again he will be targeted when it comes to its own citizens the u.k. government clearly warns against travel to almost all of afghanistan even districts in the heavily guarded capital kabul it adds that terrorists are very likely to carry out attacks and methods are evolving and increasing in sophistication but that's apparently safe enough for abdul barry tarrytown as far as the u.k. government is concerned i don't play with a couple who is safe because i think the most dangerous place in the world at the moment because the bomb is exploding people are dying and i don't. the home office is saying the couple is so i first met abbeville a couple of months ago since then his already fragile mental state has worsened because surviving a thirty five pound a week and

a pro time accommodations i'm are allowed to. so it can do nothing but talk so i have a very bad depression so i've been to the g.p. many times and some medicine from them. doesn't work. and i'm still struggling i ask him about what he wants to do if and after all this he wants to work he'd read economics at university and kaberle he wouldn't mind resurrecting his professional boxing career either but his talk is tentative working and living here sounds like a dream one that any day now could come crashing down with the arrival of a final deportation letter. in just a few hours of light amir putin will be sworn in as russian president he won the election back in march and ahead of the inauguration.