i found other things more important in the context that's the reason for good. will because he rarely opens up to anyone like that i mean he spoke to you about his face and he actually you know allowed you to be there while speaking about it. and he knew it was going to be in film it's weird that you would live it out i'm out i'm just this is a journalist talking in me and you actually got a lot of other moments where he was very well nerve will not only the one in the chapel and that's a very rare side of putin as well you see in the russian president in a lot of situations you're unsure of vacation during hockey practice. how did you get him used to your cameras and just to be himself or did he never did he never knew about the cameras. i'm not quite sure about that but he never gave it a kind of direction we were just there we were just watching and didn't get any kind of. direction to do this or to do that so i think he got accustomed after

a certain time that we are present and it worked that way and. i'm not a very hostile person. to very hostile journalist i watch try to understand and are and i have questions so i'm not in a constant fighting position because my philosophy is very simple i think. people first of all have an understanding of what they are seeing and can charge by themselves so i don't have really to press for any kind of. inside or to to present myself self as a very critical guy i am critical but i just simply ask questions and leave my views to decide whether this was ok whether this was better whether this was a lie or good or noble so this is a tendency my work is concerned and secondly if you. are not all the time saying behave this way behave that way it looks better this way or that way it

works works it works easier it works much better better so i mean this film really opens up that in his personality and in the way that you see him in situations and that nothing extraordinary be just random situations that a human being would find himself they would just say we've never seen put in like that before like hunting practice in hockey swimming or like his dog why do you think your country and western audience in general need it to see this side of him . because we have stereotypes you know we mentioned this k.g.b. thing beforehand and so is this an incarnation of the evil and the longer p r stresses facts like that the more. the more they become so to speak real so we think we fictionalize reality to a certain extent by writ by repetition and i thought ok this guy is a human being as you and me is

a put it situation he was at the right time at the right place and he tries to develop something for his country ok and going away from this kind of. trenches ideological trenches my interest was how does he argue how does he behaves and what are his interests because it's all about interests of a country or a president anomaly or a sense and so that was much more important and to build up. a. picture of an enemy which is useless because it's a rip titian to the world the system but that. you are going to take a break right now and when we're back we'll continue talking to hubert sidel german journalist and documentary filmmaker about how the world sees direction president stay with us.

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the way back with here german journalist and author of the documentary film i put in discussing what vladimir putin is like in the eyes of the world so in your movie you highlight the beginning of put in his first term his visit to bundestag where he talked about russia not being an equal partner in the west eighteen years later and we're still not partners why do you think nothing changes in this regard. it's a good question you mean i can find the answer about what i would start you remember before he spoke in the blender stock sink through three months before the first time he met george bush and there was this meeting. george bush

said basically looked in the eyes in his eyes go to a sense of who sold you remember that i remember and i remember what about cain said to. with mccain said i looked in his eyes and i saw three letters k.g.b. if i remember this correctly that put it pushed at the same time added at the same time is honesty is direct and he has a great interest for his country so three months later two months later i think it was in the church of bundestag. it was an interesting talk but the main the main point he said ok he said we are talking we want to get to come together but at the same time we distrust each other and we have hiding and we are trying to play games and i think from the very beginning on that from two thousand onward up till today there is this distrusts about intention and at the other hand there is

obviously the core the coalition of interests and interests are the main point in the whole in the whole in the whole fight here i think up till two thousand. eight more or less. we were trying to get along then we had two thousand and eight georgian war and then we had the ukraine as well it was always on one side the fight for democracy and freedom and on the other side the evil reconstruction of the soviet union but it was at the same time of course interest the history you put it it's of a country is basically formed by the history of a country by geopolitical interests economic interests current events but you have to take this into account and russia had this and the west had that it was very complicated it was a misunderstanding from the very beginning i think there was no

a cream and after the collapse of the soviet union when was it in december one thousand nine hundred one that russia would be no become another part of the west it didn't work out their interests and i think the west miscalculated this interest and played their own includes only to russia of course to try to get through with its interest and putin was the one who was underestimated but he pushed it through tearing this latest scandal around the script outposts and to resume for instance present it russia where then are to meet him and that's not like a first time west speaks to russia like that moscow's reply has always been done talk to us like this don't tell us what to do this keeps repeating in russia west relations this problem of condescending lecturing and you know moralistic tone why . why is a good question. i think it's depending on. the

moment you are in the very moment and i think this is simply political i could taste but it's not about the tone it's about the methods i mean you see the arab countries like or like india or china are always in a lot more neutral in the way they communicate and we notice that i was very careful with words why why do you think the west western politicians are so prone to public scolding of others to near to teacher like behavior i think that we watched russia to a certain extent as a kind of you know handicapped school students and who hardly reach so to speak. the level to to to to to become adults i think that was an early attitude in the ninety's and to a certain extent it is still an attitude and on the other side it's a political weapon we still forget that russia is that russia is grown

up they are not under eighteen anymore but at the same time as we argued in the ninety's you have to do this you have to do that you have to and if you do that it will work this is you never changed because we consider us as having won the cold war and that gives us a kind of. moral superiority and the other the other hand the response of russia is quite direct you have a national national proud at the same time. which tells you go to hell. do you think the west has come to grips with the fact that russia is not irrelevant anymore like it was after the soviet union collapsed. they have to because we have a multi-polar world and not so much a uni polar world anymore it doesn't matter to whom you are talking to if you talk to a whole she will tell you. with some hesitation nevertheless but she will tell you

we have to talk with russia because russia is an important player and without russia you don't get the. treatment in syria that in the meantime we have so many different players at the same time that neither america nor russia can guarantee find a solution but the the condition is they have to talk to each other to get a final solution to convince the others around them to help them you have iran you have turkey you have saudi arabia you have a number of players in the meantime and that makes the situation so dangerous because. you never know how of when the escalation so to speak. reached is its final point and you something is happening and probably it's an escalation you don't want but you get if you look back to syria on the very moment you had an escalation of words but at the very end you have in the meantime

what number of destroyed buildings no russian have been hurt and probably now is the chance to talk i think it's a very good chance in the very moment to find a solution together because everybody sees it's not working that way germany is a country that is very close to russia and especially with pins german past and that relationship is very important saying how it's germany at the forefront of the european union angela merkel and putin also have a relationship that endured through the years is this sanctions story the confrontation going to destroy that relationship completely. i don't think that's that's destroyed completely i think the both people are rational politicians and we see in the very moment what i mentioned just before we have a big chance in the very moment to come to terms because you know we have.

issues like north stream to the gas from russia i mean we have syria at the same time we have an unreliable american partner at the same time so within europe we have difficulties and i think we have to solve some problems only together and we have to do that so the situation is quite good i would say even it doesn't look like that and the market is going to has been going to washington mark wrong has been going to washington. if it's true that putin got an invitation i don't know yet but that gives us the chance to lean back to see what is our what are our interests and to find a solution i think it's better than we think the funny thing in between is us journalists by the way the russian ones and the german ones there was an interesting in research being done just recently that as far as foreign

policy is concerned all the journalists are trying to stick to the government and increase the trama so to speak on the other side it's not so much to in the as far as interior part texas concerned but obviously in foreign policy you have. the traumatization by the journalist on both sides as well so in your movie putting was described as a man whose mind is not easy to change and who doesn't forget insults or double crossings do you think this personal trait of he swelled the way to political consideration while he forget the confrontation with the west if i chanced is offer to end this conflict confrontation. you know you don't have to forget it but you have and i don't think the evil forget it but he is a rational person on the other side as well and he knows exactly how politics works

what is needed if you want to have a long time solution now it's this it's last took so he has another of another look six years to fix things which went wrong to a certain extent it's not only depending on him definitely not but he has this chance and after such a long time of confrontation on both sides why shouldn't he use that as this kind of testimony so to speak and he is a rational man so i don't see why he wouldn't do that the the interesting thing is . you don't have to take everything personal what happens in politics if you do that then you are lost and i think he's not lost. bradley bridge thank you very much for this interesting insight and for your starts we're talking to hubert siple german journalist and author of the documentary film i put in discussing how the

world says the russian leader and how is a fact russia's relations with the rest of the world that's it for at this edition of cell phone call see you next time.

so what we've got to do is identify the threats that we have it's crazy going foundation let it be an arms race based on off and spearing dramatic development only personally i'm going to resist i don't see how that strategy will be successful very critical of dying time to sit down and talk. i've been saying the numbers mean something they matter to us is over one trillion dollars in debt more than ten white collar crime stamping each day. eighty five

percent of global wealth he longs to be ultra rich eight point six percent market saw a thirty percent rise last year some with four hundred to five hundred trades per circuit first sergeant and bitcoin rose to twenty thousand dollars. china's building two point one billion dollars a i industrial park but don't let the numbers over the. the only number you need to remember it wasn't one of those for him it was one. and. i am. in the middle of the sixties there were thirty million students enrolled in higher education in two thousand and fifteen there were two hundred million in less than

fifteen years there are expected to be four hundred million to overachieve. heard you hold liberia to. your left border and. while the demand keeps growing university tuition fees skyrocket and the world over the cost of education is high increasingly it's terrible for college it was more. than a mystery i don't understand how can a school be a scam. in the name of so-called economic pragmatism and as a result of international competition universities are turning into huge money making machines. that are my family members went to the press i think i wanted to be i wanted to be got one. from shanghai to new york to berlin countries around the world reflect trying different moves each remodelling its system in its own way but at what price and who profits from it.

was. a distorting point of a story which begins at the end of the ninety's. at that time you have this financial izing it's. all the while expanding many intellectuals european university presidents and expert groups engage in a vast reflection on how to build a more complete more ambitious europe. how to strengthen its intellectual scientific and technological influence. what is the secret of the united states and its economic power. the answer lies in higher education and research. a realm that has become undeniably strategic.

at the end of the twentieth century american universities prevail and who europe is afraid afraid of finding itself on the sidelines it needs a strategy and so european gauges in a series of reforms to make its higher education more competitive so it can serve europe's economy its productivity its job market and its liberal project england will quickly set the tone before anyone else and to get straight to the point. after the second world war we had a system where local education authorities around the country were responsible for providing a grant to students and giving covering tuitions fees. and that was at

a time when roughly three percent of eighteen year olds went to university around twenty thousand. all science students will. be required to attend lectures on physics chemistry mathematics and biology it will also be possible for science students to major in philosophy. knowledge is not a set of that but a huge net one in one piece and covering all subject all places all people. in the one nine hundred eighty s. and one nine hundred ninety s. there was a funding crisis amongst universities lots of vice chancellors complaining that they didn't have enough money to cover the amount of students are now coming through the system so the government commissioned a report and this was called a daring report and that came up with a number of recommendations almost one hundred recommendations roughly half for the government about how it could. maintain sustain and improve higher education in the

u.k. and one of the most controversial parts of that report was the introduction of was i in one thousand nine hundred seventy the british left led by its young charismatic candidate tony blair wins the elections after eighteen long years of conservative rule. at the age of forty three the head of the labor party takes charge of the country with a program whose foundation is to apply private sector management models to public services so as to make them more efficient more productive room higher education will be no exception. right. we need to widen access to universities get more money into universities and the best and fairest way to do it is a balance between the state and the graduate so face became reality and nine hundred ninety eight and it was a key landmark in the history of higher education in the u.k.

because at that moment the principle of free education free higher education in the u.k. finished. for this historic reform tony blair introduces the yearly one thousand pound tuition fee a smooth way to start five years later prompted by his second term election tony blair authorizes universities to charge tuition fees up to three thousand three hundred pounds yearly and tony blair. head of britain's labor party successfully passed a reform that the conservatives would never have dared bring forward. in two thousand and ten the labor party rallies the opposition the coalition made of liberal democrats and conservatives led by david cameron take charge of the country very rapidly the debate of a jewish visa rises on the political scene again this time the government intends to authorize tuition fees up to nine thousand pounds all the while reducing the

portion of public funding and it catered to universities this new reform violently divides both members of parliament and public opinion the have been very difficult choices to make we have opted for a such a policy is that provides a strong base for university funding which makes a major contribution to reducing the deficit and introducing a significantly more progressive system of graduate paper and stuff we inherited and i'm proud to put forward that magic so this. order. when. there is nothing a bank that tiny benefit to the lowest income graduates that justifies doubling or tripling the debt of the vast majority of brides isn't it credible that the party opposite who actually introduced the principle of graduates paying and thank

you for two jewish and fee increases is able to drum up quite so much they can drop the issue to stop. any young person ask any young person in any poor communities in our country what is your prospect what is your what do you want to do many would say i want to study i want to qualify i want to go to university i want to achieve something in life. hell they're. less they are very poor or they're going to borrow money to survive to get through university they simply will not do it this decision matters so much to so many people. i'd say to the house if you don't believe in it vote against god. for the right three hundred twenty three you know most of the last three hundred true god.

was. i was when the church was really from three thousand it became one thousand pounds i was up to the university i say wants to introduce nine thousand pounds a maximum face or anything between six thousand and nine thousand and one surprisingly most university decided to set nine thousand pounds most students we have now half a million students going through every year most of those will be paying a minimum nine thousand pounds a year and that's stans. over the course of fifteen years british politicians are ruling class that had enjoyed free access to education inflicted a paying system on the new generation. british students along with

a european fellows now have to deal with these new rulings that's the way it is. they're young they long for a solid future get thirsty for knowledge and dream of climbing the social ladder all that has a price tag and they'd better get used to him. and if i grew up in a working class family in the south of poland the young woman could have enrolled in a university in cracow in copenhagen or even amsterdam. it would have been free in england and it was granted a student loan to pay for her nine thousand pounds tuition fee. i knew i was going to go abroad to study and i think well for a little while i thought it was going to be scotland but then. i think i decided it was england you know like way back and it just stuck with me and i and i came here

and it was it was scary it was so scary because i was away from home i was here alone i didn't have anywhere to turn to and look at me now i study chinese of all the costumes that i could have chosen i can't wait for you know what the future holds and what i'm going to do i have so many ideas but we'll see. i talked to my grandfather once and we're talking about everything else and then kind of started talking about university and how much money that costs and everything and i had many thoughts about ok maybe maybe i'll quit maybe oh you know it's too much maybe it's not worth it and then i realized well how my going to pay it back but that's one of the reasons why i stayed and other reason bigger even is that i like what i do i think i'm not quite sure where that came from my need to go to you know.