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tv   Cross Talk  RT  May 8, 2018 8:30pm-9:01pm EDT

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our correspondent peter oliver in berlin thank you very much let's get reaction now from sami ramadani is a middle east expert is joins me live on the line good evening to you sami so thought in terms announcement was was pretty scathing the nub of it is the u.s. are out so many moving parts so many interested parties in this nuclear deal what happens next. what if one listens carefully to what trump was saying really you are not only withdrawing from this multilateral national you need lateran scrapping it but he is also actually threatening regime change in iran and this is perhaps in the short to medium and long term is a much more of danger as. yours policy is to be followed i think the united states is heading for a soon scenario similar to what it did with iraq the tone of his speech the
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words he used. of of georgia bush's. beef. eagerly made for war against iraq in two thousand and three and two thousand and two they escalated the rhetoric talked about. what plans of mass destruction in iraq and so on are part of mines where used to launch a genocidal war against the people of iraq forget about the regime and there it was the people of iraq and iraq as a country as a society and a state which were which were destroyed and a similar scenario i think he's being pressured by the united states israel saudi arabia and other gulf states and this is a heard very dangerous. so i may just want to mention something that donald trump
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said he called this existing deal of until now poorly negotiated now surely there was an opportunity to renegotiate president rouhani seemed quite open to that kind of possibility is this the israeli pressure telling him why didn't the u.s. try to renegotiate come up with an improved deal. i'm good sure really i agree with that analysis is that it's is there any pressure i think you know nine states is the main power here not israel israel follows what the united states finally decides and i think it's been very clear from the moment term paused and elected that israel and the tumble administration how agreed to scrap this deal promised before the election and he continued with it after he got elected and i think to reverse the picture and portray it as if it is rather just calling all the
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shots i think that is a mistake and understanding of the relationship between a master and an owner client state practically israel coast unilaterally undermine this entire region alone troll borders in it occupy other people's lands without active. precipitant there are actions by the united states green lines green lights from the united states the whole history of us is regular relations shows that is the united states ultimately that is the decision maker here and this position towards iran has been preached by sections of the u.s. administration for decades now and you know a video is u.s. presidents have known. all sorts of plans to to destabilize
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iran to attack iran and so on as well for for. the last few years they have used openly terrorist groups. so-called fundamental as groups to massacre of. people in syria and iraq and so on i'm fucked off not going to see it was to unsettle iran with new military bases and to have to attack here. in public knowledge for decades and. some if we if we look at it in context if this is the u.s. but it is only one country of the you know the original members of this agreement so we still have u.k. france germany the e.u. countries are in support the e.u. foreign policy chief still supports the old deal russia and china will await their their comments but they certainly haven't spoken out against the existing deal and we've got rouhani saying that you know he has
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a plan base to speak could we see those countries i just mentioned and iran trying to forge their own private deal. to say possibility however if you know. europe threatening other countries or the old from dealing with iran because he said the united states will impose sanctions on iran and he said specifically the united states were punished any country breaking the sanctions on iran so let's just wait and see if you countries are true for. long enough to face up to the united states and say look we've signed we solemnly signed this this agreement and we're going to have by i wait. to see whether the e.u. where you stand up to its own. its own. interests
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and keep. dealing with iran. what do you think the response will be from tehran they thought they had a you know widely agreed deal it looks close to being in tatters now will they be aggressive in their response or they try to make the best of the situation. well iran has consistently as far as this this question is has consistently favored negotiations favored peace deals we would wait and see i do not think that the iranian people will forget about the government there if you were accept to be shock of this they were already horses in iran saying no we've given no to my point of view no i like somebody where we have a permanent presence of inspectors in our lands and so on. i
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do not think iran. is even capable of going even further to concede on a sunday they have said we. have never had that and all of the plans to develop nuclear weapons and all the international inspections have proven that they were telling the truth and they still are in terms of the latest inspections so what else could you know andrew i mean what a united states wants from iraq. and its independence and that is the bottom line they do not want an independent iraq they do not hold any independent strong nation in the whole specially when they're made nearly is they don't look like independent countries and iran has regardless of what you we think often it's funny it's kind of how is chosen the path of independence from the united states they do not want
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to be a lackey of u.s. policy in the region the united states is telling them we will punish you for that so many thanks for joining us i don't see this evening some event a don't he's my guest middle east expert. ok in other news the woman who donald trump wants as his new director of the cia is set to be grilled by the senate the appointment of gina has but would be controversial she's been implicated in the agency's so-called enhanced interrogation techniques with the story he's artie's because the. trump's really pushing gina haskell is the perfect candidate strong really strong smart tough and with thirty years of juji behind her so why all the hate one highly respected nominee for cia director gina her support has come under because she was too tough on terrorists think of that in these very dangerous times we have the
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most qualified person a woman who democrats want out because she is too tough on terror when jeana tough and terrorists meaning she ran a secret cia detention center where she those under her reportedly tortured prisoners by the way the videotapes which allegedly documented some of the most horrific tortures were destroyed by the cia tough woman all right with years of experience in the moral torture and any of the reasons to vouch for her there's no one more qualified to be the first woman to lead the cia than thirty plus years cia veteran gina has but any democrat who claims to support women's empowerment and our national security but opposes her nomination is a total hypocrite interesting how someone's gender is now a factor when selecting
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a new cia head great argument as well that's like telling all black people all white people to only vote for the candidate of their skin color and people aren't buying that argument torture sarah to choose the reason why she's not qualified if you ridiculous trump loving idiots feminism is about ensuring that women have the same rights and opportunities as man it also means holding women as accountable as man i oppose any torture of male or female for cia director that's like saying if you claim to be a group monger. refuse to eat one of jack the ripper his prime cuts of meat your hypocrite women's empowerment is about getting their rights women nominated for the job not just one with seniority now gina who apparently had no problem torturing tied up suspects is allegedly squeamish about the confirmation hearing all those tough questions and in public might prove too much but trump has her back
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don't tell me it doesn't work to what your works ok folks tortured don't you know i have these go torture doesn't work believe me it works ok trump was applauded for that and many are of course against haskell and for their troubles their targeted with this president trump is nominated hospital leave the cia but rand paul is opposing her confirmation falsely accusing her of torturing good luck trying to abuse a big ass bill did exactly what our country asked of her and what was necessary to keep us safe call round with mind he's in washington to represent us. fortunately those resisting on capitol hill alone one hundred nine retired generals and admirals have urged the u.s. senate to reconsider given her ties to you know torturing human beings as a retired general and flag officers of the united states military we are deeply
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troubled by the prospect of someone who appears to have been intimately involved in torture being elevated to one of the most important positions of leadership in the intelligence community with this much opposition to gina haskell's nomination the job is still far off but make no mistake if the former torture a gets the job despite everything many many people cheer and applaud. if you just joined us this evening the reminder of our breaking news story this hour donald trump has announced the withdrawal of the united states from. the around nuclear deal the joint comprehensive plan of action also known as the around deal was signed back in two thousand and fifteen by the u.s. iran china russia the u.k. france germany and the european union it aimed at around nuclear nonproliferation in exchange for easing of sanctions around agreed to restrictions that would make it said impossible for them to produce
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a bomb as well as regular inspections that controlled tehran's compliance president trump has been a consistent critics though of that deal saying it did not benefit the united states and that it allowed around to continue producing nuclear weapons in secret he has since reimposed all of the sanctions that were lifted in twenty fifteen and added that america does not make threats we'll be getting updates from our correspondents very shortly and analysis from experts. but in the meantime let's wrap up some of the day's other news and workers at the museum of the former nazi death camp auschwitz say that they have become the target of a hate campaign being waged by polish nationalists are also concerned about an increase in anti semitic incidents most recently the home of an italian guide at the museum was vandalized with swastikas xenophobic slogans they included poland for the poles and only polish guides in auschwitz polish nationalists have accused officials at
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the side of downplaying the deaths of non jewish prisoners at the camp. what we hear is that people who died here mostly were jews that's a lie let me speak and so it is the government of israel and jews polish jews especially our attacking us they make us look bad. our streets museum officials deny claims that they have under represented the deaths of polish jews and also say that workers have been the target of online harassment and fake news reportedly incited by nationalists like coincides with the introduction of poland's new holocaust speech law this was passed this year it bans any claims that the country collaborated with nazi germany during the second world war specifically legislation prohibits references to wartime nazi death camps in the countries being polish as a violation of the law face up to three years behind bars the law though has faced
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the backlash in particular from israel and the u.s. . why the polish government has seen fit to come up with this legislation for beating people to have an opinion about the guilt or lack thereof of the polish nation it is bad for governments to try and regulate culture and history and literature. one no one can understand what why they would like to have some control over the narrative but it is all in all a bad practice the history of auschwitz no matter whether they are polish or foreign should be the guards there and this should be. the standard everywhere in every museum or memorial and disclaim that guides should only be natives. it is really easy it's against foreigners it has nothing to
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do with some effort to make the the museum better informed. in syria rebels have started to withdraw from the biggest enclave that's currently surrounded by government troops suppression was preceded by a lengthy round of talks on these it is done of has a story. starn is one of those places which in times of peace would be virtually unnoticeable on the map but in times of war its significance grows immensely as a result of marathon talks reportedly over twenty five hundred anti-government fighters and their families have agreed to lay down heavy arms there and leave for syria's north and to side with eastern ghouta previously also liberated through the same strategy has opened a crucial lifeline directly from damascus to the second largest city of aleppo the
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tactic of talks worked rendering this statement somewhat irrelevant this idea of a so-called humanitarian corridor which is a narrow little banner that if you look at the video that you see on t.v. people aren't using that the idea that russia is calling for a so-called humanitarian corridor i want to be clear is a joke but as of now assad success is nothing more than a house of cards firstly jihadi groups didn't just vaporize into thin air they were heaped up from all across syria and left to fester in global the deal has made the region their official playground their desire to keep warring has not gone anywhere and for many of them removing assad justifies resorting to tactics straight from eyesores playbook secondly this pocket of the country in the south west remains under rebel control and it's right in the backyard of damascus and finally here
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u.s. forces have cozied up with rebels in the south and won't let government troops anywhere near the corner you were on the u.s. has unilaterally declared as the huge territory surrounding towns in southern syria and you know very strange things are happening in this area for example there's a militant there were rubles are being trained and the instance of point government . forces this is a clear violation of the truce agreement the capture all of a stun marks the end of an era of anti government uncle lives most of syria is back under government control it seems the government has learned how to talk smaller pockets of geodes into surrendering but it is unclear if assad has any sort of plan on how to deal with the new challenges of the g. harvests larger dominions and america's ambitions. because we turn now
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to our breaking news story this hour donald trump has announced the decision to withdraw the u.s. from the iran nuclear deal let's go live to our correspondents killable pinney's in new york for us people all over is in berlin good evening to you gents first to you caleb just how did donald trump explain this significant decision to back out of the deal. well throughout his presidential campaign donald trump repeatedly referred to the iran nuclear deal as a bad deal and said that he intended to rip it up once he took office well he's been in office for well over a year and from the white house he just made the announcement intending to fulfill his promise this is donald trump explaining his next move when it comes to negotiations on the nuclear deal with iran. i am announcing today that the united states will withdraw from the iran nuclear
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deal in a few moments i will sign a presidential memorandum to begin reinstating u.s. nuclear sanctions on the uranium regime. now from there we heard donald trump accuse iran of torturing and killing americans from there he talked about how he he said that iran's activities in in syria he's referred to them as sinister that's in syria we've got the iranian revolutionary guards there in syria supporting the government in the fight against terrorism now from there we did hear him say that he would impose the highest level of sanctions against iran and that all the sanctions lifted by the obama administration in the aftermath of the j.c. p.o.'s say that all those sanctions would now be reimposed so it appears like a complete u. turn with the white house with drawing the united states from the conclusion of the p five plus one nuclear talks in motion which is his will.
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tell them. ok that skidmore people come back to him in a few moments but for the moment less can head over to europe a correspondent in berlin peter all of a joins on the line the pace of these radially prime minister support still trips the season of cool has been similar to support in europe. turner well absolutely not the initial message coming out from here in europe is one of dismay regarding this decision by donald trump in the immediate aftermath we saw the money will knock on the french president tweet out. that france the united kingdom and germany deeply regretted the decision made by the united states to pull out of the iran deal we then heard from federica marker raney who's the you high representative for foreign affairs the closest thing the e.u. has to a foreign minister now she was unequivocal she said that as long as a run continues to comply with the deal that the european union remains fully
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committed to it the words coming out of the e.u. seems to be the u.s. has pulled out of this but they remain fully committed and business as usual when it comes to the iran deal. going on to say that addressing the government and people of iran saying do not let anyone dismantled this agreement to end on the praise the deal itself has been not something that should be just throw it away saying it was the the result of twelve years of hard diplomatic work and that it should really be given more of a chance the european union will remain committed to continue at all and effective implementation of the nuclear deal. with fully trust the work the competence and your tanami of the international atomic energy agency that has published ten reports certifying that iran has fully complied with
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its commitments. well that's the way it looks coming out of europe at the minute federica marker in the they're saying that the e.u. remains committed to the deal bit struck with iran we've also had a little bit from the iranian side as well saying they're willing to talk with the e.u. but would be looking to well back to the united states a little bit to see what the reaction will be from washington should the e.u. do what it says it will do would continue working with tehran could we see potential sanctions from the united states placed on e.u. members well that really would be a bit of a bit of an ask it would be quite the nuclear option if you pardon the pun when it came to sanctions and certainly would be something that all sides would be looking to avoid but the e.u. on the evening that donald trump has decided this they've bought at that ball back across the atlantic and it's back in the court of the united states to see what
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they'll do should the e.u. continue with business as normal with iran. it's all over that many thanks let's go back to kelly will produce in new york a pita to step on it though. the iranian president suggested that they have to kind of have a plan b. at the sleeve should this happen if we heard any subsequent official reaction from iran post press conference. well we have heard from iran and we've also heard from israel now let's remember that benjamin netanyahu the israeli prime minister has long been opposed to the iran nuclear deal and he has been urging the united states to withdraw from it from the moment it was signed he opposed the negotiation and he recently gave a power point this is the israeli prime minister are speaking about what he says iran is all about and what's going on with the iran nuclear deal. israel is opposed to the nuclear deal from the start because. rather than blocking your own spoke to
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a bomb the dealer actually proves you wrong. to an entire arsenal of nuclear bombs and this within a few years time. now now more recently netanyahu has accused iran of moving weapons into syria for the purpose of targeting israel and that has been his more recent accusation and he has called on donald trump many times to take the action that he did take today and withdraw from the deal now we have heard from iran the iranian president rouhani the iran negotiations and the ultimate nuclear agreement were a big part of his presidency as a member of the reformist movement he favored more negotiations with the united states and in the lead up to today's announcement he said that iran may not be as as upset by this as some might predict that iran is prepared for trump to make the decision that he did ultimately make this is iranian president rouhani speaking in anticipation of times announcement. will show me if the dude is guaranteed by none
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americans the us is with drool would be ok a program cools trouble would be removed from the do if all of what we have in mind is not true field we have our own room legal and logical tom. now in the aftermath of this announcement we've heard rouhani come forward and say that this is an important lesson for iran and that iran is learning from this now let's remember that in his remarks donald trump referred to an upcoming meeting with kim jong un the leader of north korea a country that has withdrawn from the nonproliferation treaty and does possess nuclear weapons it appears that donald trump will meet with the head of state of north korea and there will be negotiations now some in iran have called for the the rebuilding now of the iranian peaceful nuclear energy program in response to it and there have been even some voices in the iranian parliament who said that this is a signal that perhaps iran should actually would draw from the nonproliferation
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treaty so we're still waiting for a thorough reaction but this was quite a car. decision we know that the european union countries were opposed to this decision to withdraw from the treaty we know russia and china favorite keeping the other the agreement with iran but it appears that what netanyahu advocated and what tom promised to do on the campaign trail has now been fulfilled the usa is withdrawing from the nuclear agreement with iran. in hearing updates from our correspondents you your computer all of it many thanks gentlemen. ok let's head to beirut now and speak to a journal space that martin joins me this evening good to have you all martin. it's a tale that took so many years. in so many countries cooperating to broker its own well it's not in terms of but it's under threat now what do you think will happen next. i think in the media short term mostly and i think we need to understand that
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the there will be a period of intense. crisis level of people in the suv the from several groups of the floors or on the wall the particular tool in the european union and the government of iran i'm now going to move up to russia if you like i mean rouhani in to go yes to. that but it could be sort of the european because it's like it's going to be going on for some time the problem we've got is there is a different a different perspective on how this should be handled that sweet old europe it's in phones germany and britain and the european union so it's all of the misuse of the so that we can believe it is indeed the of the construct of the rings of the ball which they have the problem with is with the you can make this stuff and i think what's been going on in the last few weeks is trump of those patients with european union and now we've reached this point of live sort of but really it's actually
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really over the last place i think trump he's banking is banking on the period over with say a suit. three months now of trying of of the keep people keep players around the world to try and find a compromise of some sort of. israel in the us have said clearly this is about the new clear threat of iran that's why they don't like the deal how is it that we've got them the more inside all the all the signatories on on the other not seeing this threat is this really about a nuclear threat or is it something else. it's about a lack of trust that has touched upon the earth it's. for the corresponds more sense of you know the deal was put together a lot based on trust a lack of trust what you have with israel and with america and some of them to saudi arabia is a total lack of trust of what they can see on the table now they don't believe that these inspections and verification were accounted for that if they don't then they don't they come stross irradiance that when you see them speed up the break up
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period you know there's a lot of distrust people believe that there is a second program going on on the ground secret but if so for those i think with the american side trump who is made of rigid cataclysmic error of their nature and quoting something reduced over leave to go back a long way before we see if it was composed with cubs the first goal for. the americans and from is is is self-indulgence on these a sort of sponsor of the reaction of the there is a development program going on so you think if you're with them in iran and then he doesn't even have the support of republicans who didn't like the deal would have signed up with a mel saying journalist and in washington today the book deal is about bob should we stick with it and troy unmodified rejigging in the sunset clause is a huge issue no sir israel i mean israel looks at it the situation and thinks do we want.

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