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form of government but actually in that same paper the model that is presented shows that there are pathways to overcoming this hybrid regime and that specifically happens at a point when civil society and political opposition join forces and actually that's exactly what happened in armenia i wonder if you expect these democratic transition to be fully grassroots i mean fully grown from within or do you count on support from let's say the european union and other western countries in terms of strengthening and neighborliness and perhaps financing some of those changes well look i think all countries have some sort of technical assistance that can always be helpful but this is at its core a democrat a grassroots effort by the armenian people for the armenian people so ultimately whatever you see coming out of the nuchal question young administrator is going to be based on armenian values armenian tendencies and armenian people power
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now you said before that there you don't really need to invent the wheel and we all understand what's good for societies in political and economic terms but i think you know the experience of my country of russia shows that. the difficult the lies in not so much defining what needs to be done but understanding how it could be done how you can bring those new institutions and tailor them to your culture in a way to allow both to work can sink rather than sabotaging one another or subverting one another i wonder if there is an understanding on the your side in the cold cash announced team off where you should begin and why the priorities should come first in order to turn this current euphoria into something more long lasting into something that will power those changes over the long call with regard to how things need to be done there's plenty of bright minds in armenia that can figure that out and are figuring out. but i think like i mentioned previously more
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important than how things should be done is whether or not they're done at all and that comes straight from the political will. reforms that the nickel question an administration is going to be undertaking are going to be based on as i mentioned the principles of legitimacy transparency and justice so whatever the immediate reforms are going to be are going to be ones that really are just require some political will and are geared towards or focused towards increasing justice and increasing transparency and are going to be founded on the legitimacy that the administration has on behalf of the people which frankly no previous armenian government has ever had i know that this idea of civil or an issue of people saying that this is our country belongs to as the power has to be accountable to us has been very prominent during these protests and during their protests before and it's easy to own victories it's much more difficult to own disappointments or
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frustrations how much time do you think the current leadership has to sustain this current infuses you know keep this momentum running you know i think the question is. it's the wrong question to ask because it's really not a matter of time as long as the people trust nicol pasha. the reforms they will they are ready for the long haul everyone understands here with it with all the conversations i've had over the past few days everyone understands the now's the time to roll up our sleeves and really get to the hard work no one expects armenia to change overnight and really that's an unrealistic expectation but people the important thing is that the average armenian needs a real to feel that tomorrow will be better than today and really that's not even about any concrete reforms that's really a psychological state and i think that's what this revolution has really brought within their means. people well the reason i'm asking this question is because for
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many of these changes to happen you will also have to make sacrifices for example armenia has a very huge for and you know to to manage it you will have to cut the government spending you will perhaps make other painful sacrifices and i think you know human experience shows that people's resilience also has its limits one of the reasons people took to the streets right now is because they want. first and foremost i believe and correct me if i'm wrong economic change they want to see economic development and democratic and political development as well but from my understanding that the main motivations are all economic nature and i think dad has a certain expiration point don't you think so you know i have to disagree with you on that but because actually if you look at g.d.p. per capita between army if you compare armenian georgia for example it's quite
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comparable and in some cases armenia is actually has a higher g.d.p. per capita than georgia however before this revolution the the feeling was it was not that tomorrow would be better today than today whereas in georgia my experience has often been that the average georgian has often felt the two moral be better than today so really it is about finally people believing in the fact that tomorrow will be better than today well we have to take a short break now but we will be back in just a few moments stay tuned. for the way is anti american and anti-democratic and you can look at that quite plainly by understanding the stock price of berkshire hathaway was there a split so it's trading i think there are three hundred thousand dollars a share so the message from charlie munger and warren buffett to americans is unless you've got three hundred thousand dollars to buy one share of berkshire
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chicken hawks forcing you to fight the battle going. to new socks for the tell you that will be gossip and probably myself most important. off the bad guys and tell me you are not cool enough to buy their products. all the hawks that we along with all the one. welcome back to worlds apart but can we get an international media liaison for any called transition team but can i know that you hold a musters degree in political communications so let me ask you specifically about the political personality off and he called passion and you said in
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a one of your earlier interviews that initially you didn't like him much i'm sure that has changed by now but still what were some of those things that initially made you skeptical about him quite frankly the. issues with michael question you know were less about nicholl question and was more about his associations with the first president eleventh or petros shown on. i have you know political disagreements with but nicol passion is done is take he's turned someone like me a skeptic into a true believer because he has earned that respect for years and years i've seen him speak at parliament and say exactly the things that is on the minds of the average armenian he is he has despite my best efforts earned the respect earn my respect and has shown the kind of leadership that i think this country needs right now now mr pressure nouns appearance also changed quite a bit in recent months he's now compared to give our a because if he's beer that
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he's predilection for military fatigues but you can still find pictures on the internet of him being clean shaven and their varying a nice suit how much do you think that change in appearance contributed to to the rise in his popularity daz image matter at all did visual projection of his persona i mean let's be honest nicole pasha is a p.r. genius. the way he has portrayed himself not just as you know. an m.p. who wears a suit but as an actual leader of the people is undeniable so yeah of course that has an impact however i think it would be foolish to think that all of this was based on image because really more than an image it has to do with the contents of what he represents and what he stands for now one thing that viewers may not know about i mean is that it is a country where chasse lessons are compulsory for children and chest skills are
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something we usually associate with politics and especially geopolitics how good is mr pasha now at thinking through he is the moves and combinations house through these he as a political calculator well answer that by referencing former presidents. many often used to label as a chess master he was the president of the chess federation and i think what nicol passion on showed was that he checked and then checkmated the president of the chess federation i.e. serge sarkozy and so i think that demonstrates his chest skills and his political skills but i mean let's be fair it's only i mean it's not the beginning for him he has a very long and sometimes painful career mr passion and after all has been jailed for his political activists before but when it comes to governance it's only the beginning do you think keeping power and making and meaningful change will be just
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as easy as taking it well look i think demonstrates. certain attributes that are very rare in armenia and the post of your world which is the the ability to self reflect to learn from his own past mistakes and successes and also to critically listen to the people around him i've been really impressed by his ability to listen carefully to his core to. team and to really be able to pick and choose the things that make the most sense and i think the success of this movement is really based on that is his ability to. really seek out the brightest minds and to know that sometimes he's not the one that has the right answers the guy that's sitting next to him now the this revolution and i know that you don't like calling it i've. been actually. you know i was very hesitant to call it a revolution until the police released
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a statement and the police labeled it a revolution and once the labels of the revolution at that point as a revolution while in that revolution has a symbol there one that you are wearing right now i wonder what's written on that cap is it make armenia great again. i think it's just a way for people to visibly. signal to everyone else around them that they are in the spirit of the revolution and really nothing more than i was intending to ask you before about the armenian centric nature of this moment beach has been. really different from all the other transitions power transitions that we have observed in the post soviet space so far its lack of geo political component geopolitical competition has been really striking and some say it played a major role in ensuring that this power transition would be asked peaceful as it
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has been about a single bullet shot how do you explain that why was armenia spared the foreign meddling that more often than not i kompany. a change of power in countries of strategic geographical importance well i think you're right that this was a unique attribute it was a revolution. i guess i would. say that the lack of geopolitics was a strategic move because once you remove geopolitics from the equation then you can really start to address the domestic real issues that people care about on a daily basis jill politics in the sense i mean it's no it's no secret that armine is in a very. politically precarious. environment overall so bringing that into the revolution honestly would have just complicated it and would
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probably lead to failure so it was a strategic decision as much as a moral and value based one that misimpression and promised earlier on that if elected he would not change yet of on a relationship with moscow or the west but what about your muslim neighbors both to the east and to the west. i mean terry kay and i sat by john do you foresee any changes there i think as armenia as foreign policies are structural and they are less about who's in power and more about the geo political nature that armenia finds itself so. with regard to our neighbors with regards to our strategic partnership with russia with regards to our working relationship with europe you will not find very.
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