i would absolutely not permit it which naturally leads one to ask if you wouldn't permit it today then why would you permit it then yesterday when you were there torturing folks that was a line of questioning that haskell ultimately dodged with the ice cream sundae of different excuses ranging from well you know is a different time back then to the oldie but goodie i was just following orders nuremberg of you one of the most telling exchanges took place when maine senator susan collins asked haskell if the cia has a high value terrorism suspect in its custody and the president gave you a direct order to waterboard that terrorist what would you do which are more than likely new director of the cia replied i don't believe the president would ask me to do that really jeana really he wouldn't ask you. i would bring back waterboarding and i'd bring back a hell of

a lot worse than waterboarding. sorry geno we just don't trust your topsy-turvy with glee wildly moral compass because unlike most u.s. senators and all of congress we are watching the hawks. were already. it looks like real with this one. as you put a lot of. what they like you know that i got. this . week so i. wrote a little it was the hardest right so i wrote her up and down at the while it was you know darn gina as if money was also attend that event i noticed the cia

tweeted out your. picture of her all about girl power let's get girl power in the cia and i had a big the m o g for a man's arm muffling arm republican so maybe she is the mike the c.r.u. is on top of their twitter account too i mean there's a horrifying by the way the fact that you have to literally show that in order for the hypocrisy of saying always he wouldn't know i don't think so. i don't know that works it's interesting because when gina was. you know facing the center of scrutiny yesterday at one point she got into a back and forth with so they're running wyden of oregon and she said quote after nine eleven i didn't look to go sit on the swiss i stepped up i was not on the sidelines to me the tragedy is that the controversy has cast a shadow over what has been a major contribution to protecting this country. now that to me is the

essence of all that is wrong. right you know people of her ilk is that they will put the protection of the country over the moral code of the country over the laws of the country that they believe protection far away is all else but they didn't press act they made it worse we wouldn't i says and everything else we have today if it weren't for that there are people whose family members their loved ones were either killed by drones or were taken to places like this you ruin lives and then you wonder why all was a different time it's not a different time for the kid who is ten years old to watch half the family get taken to guantanamo it's not a different time and there's no girl power and let's put that aside right now period don't even try it there's no feminism and saying well she's a girl but there's no feminism and especially in light of the recent new york times that came out this week talking about you know the torture of the united states and

what geographical part of that and i say that about this is not feminism not just because i'm an iron grip militant feminist i mean obviously but this is true if you have someone who she oversaw the torture of a pregnant woman areas like that that's what you have to sort of think about when you're talking of this op ed in a new york times this. blue star had written about her two thousand and four detention one of the cia black sites one of the words in thailand. most likely oversaw obviously one of the stock in season but oversaw a hospital in two thousand and two. she said i have no idea how long i was in the thai secret prison because no one would let me sleep the cell was white and stark with nothing in it but a camera and books on the wall they chain me to the hooks because i was met through through my pregnancy i could barely move or set some of what they did to me and that prison was so awful i can't talk about it they hit me in the abdomen just

where the baby was. i have no way of even trying to excuse that kind of behavior and it was all because they thought that her husband part might have been running some terrorists or islamic organization out of it and again i ask why are american intelligence and military personnel scooping up pregnant women poor pregnant women on the other side of the world throwing them in secret thai prisons and then supposed to be making me feel like a group oh yeah oh yeah and that doesn't exist anymore save for as you pointed out and i'm sorry whether guilty or not torture is illegal and no we are going to sit back as a country and say hey you know for obama when you do it forward not back up prosecuting anyone for this alerts and forward under someone is that you know we're going to take a torch for somebody who was involved and we're going to put them in a position of power reward them for their acts of torture on innocent people and even guilty people because guess what doesn't matter innocent or guilty torture is

still illegal it trumps all in that sense absolutely ridiculous. the democratic national committee watched in horror november eighth of two thousand and sixteen if hillary clinton's preordain the presidential when crumbled first they blame the russians then obama james comey bernie sanders sexism journalism and then even the fact that some voters didn't go to ivy league schools and chose to vote their conscience and this one claims of working toward unity in the party we've seen democratic candidates across the country getting little to no help from that party now. it seems that they're going to fold trunk and demanding loyalty pledges and general county new york the twenty member county democratic committee is trying to come to an agreement on a proposal that work were choir all members of the committee to pledge loyalty to whatever candidates are endorsed by the state local and national parties deborah lynch vice chair of the county democratic committee

a candidate for county legislator told me and her stop that quote it's totally undemocratic and unconstitutional to tell me i would need to support a democrat even if they don't display democratic values going on to say that this has nothing to do with party loyalty it has to do with the establishment wing of the party not understanding why some of us are still upset about the twenty sixteen crime in their primary and all of us are pointing out that the new york democratic party is well known for this kind of behavior now. member of the democratic party's unity committee who said supporters say the party quote uses fear tactics and the new york state committee is made up entirely of cuomo loyalists. and it seems that when they are bowling progressivism grassroots democrats they are trying to take credit for their work executive director of new york dems jeff berman actually sent this request for video footage of a grassroots organizations work to put in campaign ads which is pretty rich sense

grassroots activism was their other excuse for rigging the primary and that line. straight down to more and more like republicans every day i mean hate me and my family been preaching on the mountaintops for as long as i can remember the democrats and republicans aren't all that different but most of your mainstream dennet democrats are really just you know approach pro-choice republicans at the end of the day especially comes to foreign policy and things like a lot more things than just foreign policy it's clearly got to go also in how they conduct themselves as a party and over there is no telling the what's the one thing the tyrrell really i'm speaking of third person the most obvious what's the one thing the tyro really gets upset about in government is that how pocker say yes and democrats on the house rules committee sent a letter this week to the department of justice chairman jeff sessions rejecting a call for a trump style loyalty pledge in order to propose amendments on the upcoming farm bill ranking member of the committee james p. mcgovern state in the letter that requiring members of congress to take

a trump style well to pledge just to get a chance to offer their amendments is in a word shocking. let me get this right how is there a loyalty pledge in congress and the fair authoritarian gesture of the most be stopped. which it is by the way yet doing the exact same thing within your own party to people trying to run under your banner that's totally acceptable having them sign a loyalty pledge absolutely bonkers to well it's probably because everything you said is what about as i'm so you guys i forgot about as. making your logical argument a reporter you know but something's being a hypocrite is now what about it is a bit of ocracy is appropriate it is never critic. one of the big things here is about ads it isn't about getting the part of the party me and control because the party has a very intertwined system that helps a lot of people that's why it was broke and hillary had to write

a big check to keep the lights on there's a reason because you have people like debbie wasserman schultz. that all said hey lots of consultants lots of this lots of because the consultants tell you to get lots of ads and as someone who used to sell advertising there's a reason we tell you that you need big flashy t.v. ads because the consultants get a commission for selling that's in the ads so this whole awful like tail eating monstrosity we've got a couple of people off that give us off the record confirmation that one of the other things that's going around in the diamond democratic party is that non-establishment dems are finding that if they go in to run if they want any were any help any support from the d. triple c. they have to sign a pledge another pledge that says that they agree that they will spend seventy five percent of their campaign money on ads. which is funny because hillary's hillary clinton all because they figure it's the hillary clinton model it's the obama

models but all this money the problem is hillary clinton spent seventy two million dollars on t.v. ads alone and she had the least. political looked at it and what they found she had the least messaging on policy of any presidential campaign or ad in the last four races so she spent all the money but she didn't say anything about policy or any any actual issues and that's why people that's a credible because assuming stuff like this it's like ok so if i want to run as a democrat i've been sick we just have to say that the d. triple c. you know the d.n.c. all that they're just basically tell me how to run my campaign and if they don't like my politics apparently as well as a democrat they might not even support my campaign and actually pushed me down to their like selective choice yet because you're then you become the dirty grassroots you know well downsize they're sitting there going to give us pictures of democrats doing things except we wouldn't you actually are our organization that's the same thing but there's this idea and the thing is traditional traditional concert these conservative democrats are the ones in those whirl areas less populated urban areas

and these are the ones that are are actually a lot more like republicans in value and they date they're terrified of progress that is that's what's going on is you have a whole bunch of the base of people that used to vote republican are pro day are pro-life you know in places like rhode island there was a story about people being about the big terrified of progressive there. they said that they were you know they're pro-life their programs are pro-business they're anti regulation they're patriotic mostly catholic and they don't think people should get free stuff republican republican problem the whole thing is we can't go to the left you have to keep going the writer will lose people all right well we're not going to lose people when we take this break court watchers because we're going to be watching don't forget to let us know what you think of the topics of the coverage of facebook and twitter so your poll shows that are dot com coming up we get the big picture of the battle between journalism and the corporate oligarchs who run the lose me that is now taking what you said of all places for colorado as the host of the big picture holiday enters the harshness don't want to miss the

states to watch. half the way is anti american and anti-democratic and they can look at that quite plainly by understanding the stock price of berkshire hathaway was their response so it's trading i think there are three hundred thousand dollars a share so the message from charlie munger and warren buffett to americans is unless you've got three hundred thousand dollars to buy one share of berkshire hathaway you're a player you're a peasant here you know they are the neo feudal lords that are building the system milking the system abusing the system and aggregating wealth as wrong see a coupon clippers and nickel and dime or they add nothing to the economy. the new global economic war is unfolding in the realm of education the right to education is being supplanted by the right to access education it's high

education is becoming just another product that can be foolish and sold so this is not just about education anymore it's also about running a business where you good. luck with these souls. they could mimic. what is the place of students in this business model before college i was born now i'm running stream or higher education the new global economic war. he who pays the piper calls the tune those eight simple words of perhaps wall street's most defining creative and the greatest motivator for investment bankers

to get out of bed in the morning but what happens when the folks who are used to buying anything they please try to pay and incorruptible piper that's the question of the day for the auld and global capital group a new york hedge fund that appears intent on buying up the nation's newspaper market as if it were diner jukeboxes but isn't simply writing the news although in has now found itself in the thanks to an editorial page standoff with its subsidiary the denver post and a stubborn series of protests and public appeals by the hedge funds journalists employees how then do we resolve this seemingly irreconcilable can conflict of capitalism journalism and the steadily withering concept of local news to answer the conundrum we're joined by betting media veteran and host of the big picture holland. had quite a controversy and while i guess it is this it is it's intriguing how all of look the rules of capitalism if you know if you follow the spirit of capitalism would dictate that this hedge fund is to

a certain extent with them their rights to run the subsidiary as they please why you know why should that be any different the case of you know forms that the news media no wiser be different from news revealed the truth teller. when i first read the story two clues just jumped off the hedge fund as in yeah and the name of the company is digital first media and this is like the cross you know dracula so if you're in print media obviously the great lady is challenge to in the digital age and they're scrambling to try and monetize the online. in the wall street journal in the new york times you're pretty good at that unless you can fool your browser into giving up to your for free so well these are challenging times in the newspaper land but this is nothing new one hundred years ago when i worked at usa today you probably didn't want to get caught on the job thumbing through a book called the chain gang our newspaper versus the going to empire by richard

mccord i found one copy left on amazon today and this was the harrowing tale of the biggest newspaper publisher in the usa acquiring the green bay news chronicle oh all right you have come from out of town with economies of scale and consultants and templates and so it's not a news story and it's not even just a newspaper story you know where i'm from radio you know in the middle of the night in one thousand nine hundred six amendment to the telecom bill lift of the ownership caps suddenly you could own as many stations as you could gobble up quickly and mom and pop station owners had no intention of selling mom and pop are down in west palm now yeah because wall street came along with more money than the station was worth and to pay the mortgage every month they've been burning the furniture and firing people right and left and it's a crying shame in local news when the local newspaper thins out like that because

there are fewer words being written there is one less voice and this is not to say that radio and t.v. are doing the rip and read from the newspaper but nobody goes deeper into a story than a newspaper can you only have a half hour where you know for this show but the newspaper can print as many pages as they need to so it's a real loss when these papers thin out like that is because us that's where you get a lot of the good solid local that was the feeds the rest of us of the world market it feeds the global market yeah and i mean the only thing that really seems to be making money or says they're making money are sort of your high drama. cable there is your. own address. but this sort of you know what i mean and you know it's cnn's in the box is the big i don't mind they probably make a fair amount of money but this is a distinctly unprofitable business and always has been so how do you balance

keeping the doors open and keeping the truth and reporting to go to a local audience that needs it now more than ever in its heyday the sales department was not allowed in the newsroom right c.b.s. you know the tiffany network and now the newspaper will shop a special section or a special insert and decide if there's advertiser support we'll write yeah the advertorial picking the perfect puppy you know if they can sponsor that automotive is a real target now because newspapers got whacked by auto trader and craigslist you know look at the two biggest customers of newspaper advertising car dealers and classifieds so the genie is out of the bottle now and certainly there are challenges in there trying to swap analog dollars for digital dimes and that's why these papers are getting sold and that's why these papers are getting corrupted in terms of the depth of the content warren buffett for years has been

buying up small town newspapers because he realizes there's gold in the high school sports there is something the local media can still do real well and if you're the only one doing what you happen to be doing that's an opportunity but it still takes a char you got to have the manpower hat and that's the first thing to go and that's if we've been watching them and t.v. news i mean look at over the last ten years we've watched in every single area of news they have cut researchers they cut fact checkers they've cut copy editors on it everywhere you know that's very true you know they're. seeing this all kind of falling apart you know. print journalism even if i mean you think oh well the mood of light and they can sell ads online but again that still is going to shrink the size of your paper down at the ultimate lead because it isn't going to be faster than it is so do you think there's any kind of move forward thinking profit model in mind for news companies as the they should explore in order to stay afloat that

doesn't bend turn around and say oh you can't talk about this you know why do i do you not get into our properties or talk about certain subjects there are a lot of scrappy interlopers coming along some are making money some aren't we've seen people displaced from legacy news jobs who started a hyper local online newspaper that's pretty cool i live in rhode island where the providence journal has been sold a couple of times in recent years and then doubt a lot they sold their landmark building in downtown and moved out to the press how many deaths do they need anymore and they have a new digital competitor called go local dot com that is breaking stories scrappy operation moving around the state reporting things you don't see anywhere else and it's lean and mean and like these cable news channels in new york you go to a scrum and you'll see eye witness news an n.b.c. four set up right next to news one and guess what news one didn't have to pay for that f.c.c.

license sooner than they have to mortgage it they're all doing the same story but one of them just has a smaller not so technology digital technology and self publishing it all has enabled a lot of start up journalists what gets lost in all this cost cutting is editing right because it's on the internet doesn't mean it's true ever since i saw forrest gump shake hands with president kennedy i don't want to believe i don't think it's a boy but that's the point of math. i don't know it's true and you know it raises questions of you know other possible ways to kind of fix that the controller yeah i mean there's this idea of government intervention which i'm not a i'm never a fan of government intervention in trying to like sort of fix this idea of journalism with a problem at this because they don't like dirty government hands on my well if it's the fairness doctrine fell during the term and gave rise to talk radio which is predominantly one sided but it turned radio into two way radio right the president

the other day is talking about yanking press credentials of people whose stories he doesn't write so our favorite amendment is still the first we hear of our two you know nothing about the government yanking press credentials because the catholic stories are out there are never happy. but all seriousness aside we also know nothing about sponsors or how to say do this don't do that can't you read the signs of those crazy things because me and to have been interviewed over the years you know by other reporters what's it like to work at r t and when you tell them that hey you know no one's telling me what to write i don't have a sponsor saying you can't write about me or anything like that when you tell them that their face kind of they don't believe you and i think it's because they're coming from a world where that's where they're not they're told what to write how to write what about to write about all the time what not to say in the story i interviewed john mcafee and i asked him javier no no wife i at starbucks and pinera is

safe and if i was doing a story on c.n.n. i would have had to say how do you know the wife by at the restaurant or the coffee place is safe and it's not a huge change it's a nuance but it just makes the story more relatable because there wasn't somebody from the sales department so now you got to cross that word out and go right down you're not stepping on toes you know you get more of an artist news broadcast of that do you think there's anything i even with the government intervention we've been talking a lot about merger these keep coming up. the big one was the sinclair tribune merger. talking about like a monopoly is and all of this stuff coming together aside from government intervention and those acts is there a way we can stop what's happening which is billionaires just buying them all up and sort of well as you said it's going to do a segment you you know the old gag about the freedom of the press belongs to anybody who owns one. of the line often attributed to tommy lasorda i think was

actually oscar wilde you know i never argue with people who buy by the barrel yeah and there's still something to that i could sit at home and write a blog about what i do on my show here but i find doing it on my show here reaches more people you still need a platform and when you tweeted out that i was going to be on your show i just picked up dozens of twitter followers and go so it helps to have a platform and the folks in the commercial media are just always going to be subject to some kind of compromise because this golden era at the tiffany network is gone yeah it's over the moment that they stop saying that it was this public service that i had to do it every night right moment it all changed but holland cook thank you for coming out today and giving us the big picture of this fascinating part of the members of the news business and we'll definitely have you back so that you saw all these enjoy watching the hawks. here one must have the tendency to completely blow us away with his ability to help humanity

dance its way in the future but sometimes you just disappoints me in a profound way by ignoring major issues like recently musk announced that he would be starting any company because a in a world suffering from food insecurity a lack of affordable housing who doesn't need a third choice for those of us who can't decide between twizzlers and red. then. this morning that he would be making bricks for affordable housing ewing's ing the ma. clay and soil were moved in the tunnels of this hyperloop projects and if you're thinking oh oh bricks are dumb and totally useless in earthquakes well he one thought of that too turns out the bricks will be rated for california seismic loads and because they'll be bored in the middle they'll be a lighter and stronger than traditional concrete great well we'll have to wait and see if we can make it forty eight hours without a lawn moss doing something about the thing we were mad at him for not doing.

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