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alleged saudi led air strike near the rebel held capital sanaa. r.t. dot com is the place to go to find out more about those and other stories next episode fico talks with the governor of hiroshima about the prospects for ridding the world of nuclear weapons. welcome to. south for the horrific consequence of a nuclear blast and global struggle to abolish their weapons altogether will it succeed. governor of japan's. seventy three years off to the world first saw the devastating effects of nuclear

weapons the global nuclear arsenal is growing with thousands of warheads ready to what civilization off the planet can humanity afford to rely on fear of mutually assured destruction to keep peace is the drive to get rid of nuclear weapons realistic and all the lessons of hiroshima remembered well enough today. is exactly really great to have you on our program welcome to thank you very much so. lots of relevant issues to discuss with you. so far your country is the only country that has suffered from the use of the nuclear weapon so it is understandable why japanese people are so adamant on abolishing nuclear arms. but you say that those advocating nuclear disarmament are realistic. you really think so i mean how realistic because nuclear states including your biggest partner

united states opposed that well i say. you know realistic because. or argument or. you know the goal for abolishment of nuclear weapons is based on the reality of what happens to him and beings when it's use when it's actually used so we know the reality of the use of it and sometimes. you know deterrence. strategy and they're all discussed on paper you know there are certain assumptions there are certain assumptions. this number if we have this number you know two. actions in sitra. you whether you know other two. but. you know mostly

it's a perception idea based. but no standing. are you talking about those who are actually supporters of the terror but i mean we didn't have a war for the last seventy years thanks to terrance you don't think that's reason enough to think that that's a good thing you know well deterrence no in this war no having a war. or no having a large number of casualty is not necessarily just because. you west and russia you no other country has. nuclear weapons there are so many other factors that. deter the war. well i'm talking about the. nuclear deterrence in deterrence is something

that's probably necessary. but i'm talking about nuclear deterrence what. i did the value of nuclear deterrence. you know too conventional deterrence in other dictators so all of the fact that it should never ever take place because it's so horrid that no one would ever want to have that ever happen again but done is based on the assumption that there is no mistake there is no misjudgment there is no accident you know there are a lot of assumptions that current. you know deterrence is based on. historically actually it's been proven wrong you know there has been many accidents. many misjudgments almost lead to.

nuclear war which is really risky situation so this nuclear powers that the global powers at this point they're all very wary of each other that's why they don't really want to give up their nukes how do you see this technically happening if it were ever to happen like they all should give it up at the same time. well of course the process has to be carefully designed and i don't think it's going to happen tonight that overnight. so what we need. to seriously look into. then of course the situation is very different in. deterrence against what you know already did turn against him where. is a very important question and you have to. you know dig into details

and try to come up with the process in each situation to reduce nuclear weapons in a fun way eliminate him you have said it yourself. they all have their reasons and yet nuclear weapons are only a manifestation of global political problems that each country has right can you really simply get rid of the nuclear weapons without addressing those problems because you know they're intertwined together i mean pakistan is afraid of a bigger india and doesn't want to be the next saddam hussein israel is surrounded by hostile arab states so unless you address those political problems you can't really talk about getting rid of nukes no i don't think so. first again you know deterrence is nuclear deterrence is different from deterrence so we're talking about nuclear deterrence and the added value of nuclear deterrence

and if you carefully look into each. you know situation. we should be able to find the new equilibrium. you know strategy extract stability is equilibrium in game theory. and there is a multiple. possible multiple equilibrium usually. does based on conditions or assumptions. and. if we could find their way to move that you know equilibrium to other position which is less costly or namely equilibrium with a nuclear weapon. much more economical.

and probably endless risk so what i'm saying is why. not we just say all because we have this conflict. having nuclear weapon is something. that you've taken granted taken us granted but this look forwards. whether you know their ways to move to leave the room to a new one you know and of course i don't say it's easy. and there are some measures probably. multiple party. needs to agree upon. but i don't think you've seen possible we just have to make that therefore stop what do you think of the nuclear weapons ban treaty adopted by the united nations can it ever go beyond declaring intent to actually have an

actual impact but it's true that nuclear weapons countries must be involved in the process otherwise i mean it's only the nuclear weapon countries that can reduce or. eliminate nuclear weapons so finally they have to be involved and it's you know about the process again you know we involve the nuclear weapon states so you have this in this. global peace plan in motion and i looked at it and i have to say that i admire the idea that. your devotion to it. do you have my doubts about how to promote what you stand for i mean conferences and rock concerts you know i cover politics a lot of wars a lot and you know peace doesn't come through concerts and conferences so. how do you make sure that you can impact through this program well you should be aware

though sometimes peace comes through music concerts too that i agree so you know those activities. you know there's some activity you start targeting public you know like increasing public awareness or some of the d.v.d.'s are targeted more experts. you know like round table talk we have been here a few months. talk among experts and polish policy makers. about what we can do so you know. we think. the final goal of course is to eliminate nuclear weapons but. who who eliminates it is actually the leader of the new good working country and the structure that supports

the leader. like the bureaucracy in the expert system. and also the public who has the basic foundation for the system so we are trying to. find a way to reach in each you know how you know how effective each action is we have to try many things which is you know this is very complicated and very significant issue so it doesn't. again you know. so we're trying to do. whatever we can in the find a more effective way. to achieve our goal to take

a break right now when we're back we'll continue talking to governor you jackie will discuss more who is right behind the data as policy or those who want to stay with us. it's absurd to note that armenia is not ukraine or georgia and that our experience is unique to certain extent we're building on the success and the fielder's of past efforts to address the issues that you're talking about so in many ways we have a leg up on anything best been tried in the past this is not as a democrat

a grassroots effort by the armenian people for the armenian people. search out the way is anti american anti-democratic and they can look at that quite plainly by understanding the stock price approach or have it was that risk but so it's trading i think there are three hundred thousand dollars a share so the message from charlie munger and warren buffett show americans is unless you've got three hundred thousand dollars to buy one share of berkshire hathaway you're a player you're a peasant here you know they are the neo feudal lords that are building the system milking the system abusing the system and aggregating wealth as wrong see a coupon clippers a decline timers they add nothing to the economy. and

we're back with governor as you jackie governor so there are some serious steps towards nuclear a militia going on in your neighboring north korea out i wonder what you think about that because it has announced a suspension of nuclear missile ballistic testing shutting down a nuclear test site. this is widely seen as a positive. a step towards nuclear is ation do you think kim jong un is actually not going to make any nuclear tests on what well we cannot have a conclusion and yet we have to see. we have to see the actual actions. being. petri so many times. through the past negotiations with north korea so what's important is.

you know it's been one of the word is used. you know reversible. how. reversible you know how to prove it and you know course. check it. very important issues but we need to do that you. actually believe most korea nuclear so you have an arsonist south korea's that are meeting right now and the talks between america and north korea are being set up and all of the partners south korea north korea south korea america japan they're saying that the ultimate goal is to see completely didn't you clear eyes north korea but wait a logical question is why would give up his nuclear arsenal i mean why would all of a sudden destroy completely something that he's building up for a decade. is exactly why we have to really see

actions. i think. you know. motivations of course. one extending. the current regime and if he believes. having a nuclear. is more beneficial to extending the regime he may hold on to it. if he believes. giving it up. it's more beneficial. for extending their regime i think he will so you know we have to prepare an environment that he believes and. that you know. in a show for him you have a more precise in your opinion what should he be getting. in exchange of giving up

then you know what he's saying is security assurance and denuclearization in you know there might be i mean with this security assurance there might be more concrete. requests are you quite i meant conditions like having no. u.s. force in peninsula or something. so i don't know they will come out but you know it's. very difficult. to to predict now you know what conditions he would give up the group and at this point we need to see and also. the timing i will discuss the timing because japan's foreign minister says that north korea should abolish nuclear arms by two

thousand and twenty. do you think that's a realistic goal time wise because i mean it took two years of tops to just stop the iranian nuclear program they didn't even have an actual weapon i mean how can this diplomacy with north korea work faster than with iran. you know whether it's realistic or too fast or. too slow you know i hope you feet by twenty twenty that's very welcome. to the extent. it's possible everyone should make every effort to to to achieve that. you know. i would say there's no too early for that so. i don't know if it's you go or not but at least you could try so like i mentioned south korea america are going to

sit down and talk to north korea as of now japan has been about it to those talks do you think it should be part of those talks or what can they bring to the table. well. you know. you know a lot of fools in the. entire sitting an entire condition or sitting the entire environment or longer process of you know post agreement to. i don't know a this point. can do but at least you know carefully. you know see a u.s. korea's. movement or actions and

think you know. in a given position but. no relieve the pressure on north korea on this we actually see put. options it's also quite interesting to see what's going to happen to your country's security because japan has been relying on us for protection for decades and now trump is saying its allies in asia pacific should rely more and more on their own resources their own security and then you know we have personally heard the japanese government saying that slowly japan should be expanding its own japanese military do you think it's time to rethink the security council. japan. you know i don't think the big picture will change will continue. with the united states and of course it will have close relationship with korea. and other. some of

the other. countries too. but in that balance or some roles could be redefined. well for example. you know we. would like to see japan to be u.s. nuclear nuclear deterrence not the deterrence as a whole but nuclear deterrence that will give a better position in terms of promoting. nation or nuclear disarmament. and. for example if you look carefully we recently received a report paper from you need year. research institute.

if you go back to the first question. if we look carefully. at the. situation. of nuclear deterrence against north korea it is not necessary. you know. that every north. american nuclear to terrorists in a way is a guarantee that no one attacks japan is well now well known the not necessarily because you know for example north korea. their motivation is to. no to be invaded not to be. attacked to destroy the regime. is that you keep interrupting you but i'll forget to ask you this say you it feels like you don't think the north korea is actually capable of

attacking a neighbor well they aren't they are they are capable of attacking neighbor but whether they will do is a different question you don't think they'll do they think they use the nukes just to keep the regime in place that's it. they feel or. they feel there is an immediate. very imminent danger of being attacked but they know that once they use a nuclear weapons basically there is seen no. because there would be. there would be fight for about and you know there's so much you like i just have to go to the question because you didn't quite answer you don't feel like you need american nuclear deterrent because you don't feel like north korea is actually about to attack someone it's more about keeping its regime in tahoe it's not about feeling you know. it's not about feeling it's not me saying this

but i'm talking about disunity and people paper. from chris point of view their nuclear deterrence know what their deterrent against is a time. from. to destroy the regime and if. the top first you know it's there is. it's very certain that their regime will collapse so their real possibility. probability that north korea is going to attack you know from themselves what we're talking about at this point.

and if you were. again talking about space or is to destroy the north korea's nuclear capability you know they need to use so many nuclear weapons if they use nuclear weapons and is very realistic which is going to cause so much radiation issues not only was in those korea south korea china and russia too they're also. in the original question was that japan always enjoyed america's protection because you don't have your own military security system in place to protect your country now that trump is saying that you should rely more on your own resources do you think japan needs an actual army and actual security system in place. i didn't say we don't have at all we have a conventional defense system to

a certain extent and we're partnering with states my view is for example you know. nuclear deterrence against north korea we may have. meant we could be out the nuclear deterrent to change. the roles and the balance right so there could be a new balance in new. thinking or a security. system i just have plus two questions sensitive issue you know ninety's perception. of japan in general so the american president has a visit here but do you see a situation where a japanese prime minister for instance visits jane because the chinese are saying you know. so anti-nuclear campaign in japan which you are part of of course is sort of a way to whitewash japan's role in world war two not fair because you can't discuss

the bombing without the reasons behind the bombing. do you do you see is he to asia where your prime minister would actually visit nineteen like american president hiroshima yeah maybe possible. you know. and of course depends environment and context if dad is. in the core of the context. i think you'd be difficult for a prime minister to go but the party's out of context you know it may be he may be able to go. all right thank you very much for this in trail i wish you all the best ally have a nice rest of the same question thank you you thank

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