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prime minister of course didn't make any reference to sending her foreign secretary to people on fox news as part of his foreign policy initiative pleading with the president to fox news rather than through direct interventionist of the speaker the middle east is in need of stability conflicts are already region in yemen syria and iran meanwhile the foreign secretary can deliver a forty minute message abroad in a correct manner you can serve him all the foreign secretary undermines the prime minister under custom junior prime minister can you tell us when the foreign secretary will both agree with their own government's position and if not will she have the backbone to send to the backbench it's britain's foreign secretary appeared to want to resign the earlier in the week but if there is a way is former home office minister norman baker claimed on wednesday's going underground that the pm acts on orders from the daily mail newspaper now it is easy to prefer rupert murdoch's fox news is absolutely right the government in dressing
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the issue with the iran nuclear deal with the united states government worked across all levels and they representation as a variety of levels and in a variety of ways yes the u.k. government sees fox news as one of the variety of ways to get through to those in power in washington over the iran deal well joining me now is a member of the u.k. parliamentary party group for iran and british peer buddhahood of rather a lot of it thanks so much for going back on going underground before we get to the latest conflicts catalyzed by washington what about today's iraqi elections a testament to the fact that tony blair's war has brought democracy to at least one country in the middle east i don't think so i think the price that they've paid and the way the country is fragmented you've seen in the elections they are the sunni the kurds and everybody is divided even within the shia are there are different coalitions but if one thing is arguably true it is the. and was
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a kind of winner because of tony blair's war geopolitically anyway your response to israel though attacking iran zarrella is on the golan heights already illegally occupied by the israelis well israel as you know netanyahu has got his own problems because of corruption and the police cases and saw he wants to divert some of that very cleverly but also israel has been trying their best to create this wedge between the sunni muslims and the shia bloc saw saudi arabia with you we and egypt you have iran its own allies but you know you've seen in lebanon hezbollah has taken more seats they are getting stronger in iraq you've seen the results so therefore i think defeating iran like this would be very difficult i have a little a debate in the house of lords on twenty first on both to ask her majesty's
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government what role they can play in terms of bringing peace to syria and yemen because i don't think that any world power can bring peace in yemen and also in syria without getting both saudi arabia and iran together and resolving some of their issues ok you know this region pretty well you've traveled so widely in it just explain mention saudi let's talk about that side of things anyone who's visited the saudi the you're a persian gulf countries knows the hatred for israel almost bought into the curriculum and in these in civics. i just mentioned the girl you're saying that they're all defacto on the side of israel right now saudi arabia u.a.e. egypt bahrain the bloc of four who are also blockading. qatar as well. very much on the side are more complicated no not discuss it. run is help for god.
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but then now can you imagine. mohammed bin so mon supporting the israeli prime minister netanyahu sympathizing with the israelis rather than the palestinians can you imagine the saudis and the egyptians and the u.a.e. you know the by abu dhabi and all that supporting israel rather than the. iranians or hizbullah cetera so i think this all those countries i should say will go to deny this in any way supporting israel the matter what secret video appears on social media i just hope i really hope that this doesn't bring to a full scale scale war in the middle east because the way things are developing if the european countries like germany france britain if the sort of are not seen
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as real power brokers in keeping the agreement iran agreement a deal on table because even the un of course there's a un security council resolution on that and if you end imposes greater sanctions and the un then manages to pull all the banks and companies out of the deal then iran is saying well then why should we go ahead with germany france or the united was it couldn't go through the u.n. security council because china and russia and britain and france are so far they will be in steadfast more greeny of the u. beijing moscow everyone is on iran's side except saudi arabia or israel in the united states so do you notice though any slight difference at the moment in the way it's being reported here the latest attacks on the golan heights because boris johnson appears to be condemning the syrian government. quite. openly for
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tensions on the golan heights which somebody you would have to explain the basis of eagle israeli occupation of the golan heights of course illegally occupied for many decades now look i'm not supporter of the syrian government but having said that we know that israel has attacked many sites and military positions inside. syria as one of the of the foreign office here about israeli and i want to remind you two thousand and three we first were not happy if you remember that big march in london with millions of people i was there and we wanted to oppose invasion of iraq and afghanistan and then suddenly we decided that we would go along anyway but i don't think america would dare attack iran i frankly tell you this in my own opinion because even though iran doesn't have the capability of hitting back on.
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the united states but iran has the capability of destroying the world's economy because if they just start hitting the waters where all the ships all the oil where all the interest of the western world lies right there in the straits. then be difficult and larger reserves of energy than in saudi arabia arguably so if we take the united states to one side the european union countries you have to think there's some truth to what president rouhani of iran says that he says the e.u. does not have the capacity to be a global player casting doubt on the words coming from london paris berlin brussels saying no no we don't like what donald trump well look i've seen the statement from e.u. . they are very strong that we need to act like a superpower the twenty seven twenty eight countries where. it is economic military
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yes we are allies with the united states but if the united states doesn't want to adhere to international treaties then we need to stand up i don't think they will even though when it is european companies are obviously going to suffer because of the end of the iran deal perhaps not by you know so much of our economies do you think that the united states as a net oil exporter there with a less once you can draw oil services is a bit upset about how the europeans who go in there with iran and maybe trump was alluding to that in that speech where he ripped up their own deal to say we want preferential united states access to her but he does that i mean americans have done that in iraq they've done it in other countries lost in iraq china's in their bigotry of course but this is this is all because of their politics because they've lost in the whole of legion now they've lost even in africa china's all over and chinese economy you know one never again solid afghanistan i sort of like beginning
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of the end for the u.s. being this sole superpower what does it say about the power of corporate capitalism if donald trump can get away with this and it can annoy boeing obviously because they have this big deals with their own little turtle an airbus in the west i mean it is is it not obvious that the deep state so-called in the united states does not support donald trump on this deal you are in the same maybe the mad dog mattis head of the statement well you know even if his own his own state department does not support him even the intelligence director doesn't support him saw something there are a lot of irritant but there are lots of people in the united states or very concerned because this is going to damage the long term interest of the united states doesn't trump can turn around and say look i got you four hundred billion dollars. contract from saudi arabia i got you hundreds of billions of dollars from
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the d.c.c. countries because the way i've shifted because i've comedy to israel accommodate to them and given then these shorts that i can stand up to thank you after the break. come on. how did this video change the lives of everyone on the planet and of its new claims of tory social cleansing in one of britain's richest neighborhoods activist poet posted whisper performs from his new book the rhyming guide to grand philbrick gold the symbol coming over part two of going underground. time in history during a crisis like in two thousand and eight where the creditors bailed out the state of the debtors than in going back even to build a full time system debtors they get bailed out not the creditors but because of the
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fascism the neo fascism then listed leni like neal fascism between the bankers on wall street and the federal government fused together a corporate product daisy chain of incest and by all financial shenanigans the creditors were bailed out and the what are they do with all that money they inflated the bubble even higher so now i've got s. and p. hitting an all time highs but the more ality and the ethics of the country and the wealth and income gap nosedive. as some officials do not. fully understand or do not fully accept the principle of football being beyond politics when that's a fundamental principle of the world to book. you were granted some people may have opinions but it's their own opinions and doesn't influence opinions of many other.
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football fans who look for a minute tickets every day in large volumes. of play for many clubs over the years so i know the game inside out it's. football isn't only about what happens on the pitch put the final school it's about the passion from the fans it's the age of the super money just kill you narrowness and spending two hundred twenty million on one player. book it's an experience like nothing else i want to because i want to share what i think what i know about the beautiful game but great so one more chance for. the base minute. twenty forty you know bloody revolution here to the demonstrations going from being relatively peaceful political protests to be creasing the violent revolution is
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always spontaneous or is it you know here i mean your list put me in the new bill is that i do believe it or the former ukrainian president recalls the events of twenty forty and. those who took. it invested over five billion dollars to assist ukraine in these and other. secure and prosperous and democratic. welcome back this month marks one year since u.s. army whistleblower chelsea manning was released from prison following a seven year sentence that included treatment a un torture chief ruled as cruel and inhumane or alleged crime as the leaking of classified information that included a video of the u.s.
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military killing innocent civilians two of whom were journalists the next guest sorely can release of that video as a new era joining me now from berkeley in california is journalist and author of the new book wiki leaks the global for the state history is happening dr nissen we welcome to going underground before we get to the world's most famous political prisoner or give me tell me why you begin the book with the wiki leaks collateral murder video well i think that the matter be they are really show the uncensored maser war the war which has been kept from break for a long long time and they had had a tremendous effect not only american public but the whole entire world and to be able to see it in many ways i think war becomes such an abstract concept that we are none too. we already added the go by on and so happening basically being done by the us government and many my own government but to actually get to see the real
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image. of everyday life everyday reality of iraqi people i mean that was very moving and that was quite shocking and and really i think you triggered emotional reactions and in many people in the i certainly was affected so i started to write on the topic a week eating actually in two seventh and when the we could expect released this video a quote out of other material and here i'm simple ordinary person being affected decides to start to actually write ends and more and explore what's happening and you know what media mayster media has not been covering about warts and government corruption. and that video unlike arguably a lot of the wealth of cable information secret documents have been released by we give eeks that even go through the mainstream media filter and was broadcast on mainstream media. correct i mean it's and i think that you know week i consider we
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getting so the invention of a new demand isn't built on the platform of the internet and what it does it has a different completely different and unique features than the existing one there are journalism that is defined and that the author on the arrow get and then we could expose you to life the power of the internet they say it's uncensored ability to distribute information at the girl but level so you have a huge i think impact we could expect able to bring the huge in political impact so to the medium of the internet which is very unprecedented and that newness is that what we're seeing when we heard donald trump on the one hand say we love we keep leaks and on the other hand his secretary of state now mike bombo used to run the cia saying that julian a son has makes common cause with dictators and wiki leaks is a hostile intelligence service absolutely i see you know it just as the you have
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a good emberg invention of the printing press in the fifteenth century and how leads to the explosion the information so to out europe at that time and they've created the huge political and social ramifications and in the same way i see joining us either not only accidental journalist or the publisher but also our innovator who actually you know baited the new format with john that isn't and give it to the rest of the humanity so i think that you know we and any time that a new idea or invention our technology come about in into our society we don't know you know these really have disrupted the impact and then we can exert any this threat that the media landscape but i think it's also started to open society into a more democratic democratic state and i think that many people really don't understand what this new invent. so there on these made it so they are afraid and
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they are trying to attack the person who invented this and they instead of trying to look at what this new form of insanity is merely is and trying to benefit from this invention you know people just get scared and then legs are not the sun you know he trying to pick up the bunt is. the british nanny power that came with this new invention so you know when we can fix the b.b.c. information search for his agenda certainly he appraises wiki leaks and then when the it doesn't go well for his agenda you know then he would have sober and he couldn't say this in mensa but ultimately you know wiki leaks and its new invention the return that is them and they can be used by anyone and anybody can benefit from this and not understanding this this new invention that people are just trying to attack a sounds so i think it's important to understand and important to differentiate during a sound and you know innovator and from the invent a growing benson not to say you know i mean you know outside of the very important
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person who created this but also you know so much focus is giving to to do it in a sound and then we found to really understand that invention that came forward now and that is now available to all of us. and some kind of confusion is that the symptom we're seeing when the democratic national committee is suing russia donald trump and wiki leaks in our existing journalism journalism basically done that is the base going to became a gatekeeper of the power and that their job is to sustain this facade of democracy so what we have is money so that especially those about who live in the west we think that we have democracy we have democratic society we think we have a democratic elective. process and and it which was basically to be able to be full of by the released information by wiki leaks. and the
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a.n.c. e-mails and so you know what i think of this new invention of journalism that is really it's open society where john that is you know we would have means to account john that it's in the kind the existing law the old man it's a democracy we have no means to account journalists and journalists could keep acting at the gate keepers of power and the wiki leaks that by giving us this new form of journalism allow us to engage ourselves to inform ourselves and be able to hold journalist accountable we just finally and briefly the again the book is very optimistic the ecuadorian government seems to be more interested in clandestine cia sites in the u.s. meant to be a military base than caring about whether a songe lives or dies arguably do you think ultimately it's that those military decisions in in the western hemisphere that will will basically mark the fate of
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julian assange and you know i think that hits his. sexual misconduct case in in sweden from the beginning it's there was no need to go case it always has been a critical case. and the fact that the during that had to have been bitterly detained i mean a painful eight years can they say that he confinement in prison and two years under house arrest and stick nearly sixty years now in the embassy over ecuador in london i mean you know this whole thing about just a politically motivated and it's i think judy and freedom really depend on power extending up for him and the public really pushing our own governments and because in this it's never been a legal case so it's really his freedom rest on the court of public opinion at this point and i did hope that people understand the significance of this invention and whether you know one of how you feel about geneva. whether you like genocide you
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are not i hope everybody recognizes the significance of this invention and also the person who invented this is a person who gave this invention to humanity by taking risk and affected by thing his personality but the i hope that people will stand up for him look at his i mean i say thank you thank you. well we're just forty eight hours from the grand fell silent march in west london which will mark eleven months to the day since the worst tower block fire in u.k. history i'm joined now by recording artist and activist poet and whisper will in a moment be performing from his new book the rhyming guide to granville britain which is out now. welcome to going underground tell us about the rhyming guy to grandfather where the u.k. is worst. you feel is still zero emblematic of divisions in britain so the fire
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a grandfather has been described as many things as been described as horrific i'm sure massey. catastrophic which of course it was the one thing it can't be described as as far as i'm concerned is an accident in fact as far as i'm concerned there was mass murder for the years leading. the resident grenfell action group told casey t.m.o. numerous endless times of the risks to their safety at the tower now for years not only were they ignored but they were threatened with legal action for raising genuine concerns about a point you make in the track song about. resume says it is an inquiry into it why do you think your words can illuminate what happened a grand feel better than an impending inquiry or the result of an inquiry which will truly get to the bottom of this i don't feel my words would highlight anything or brings anything anything to light an inquiry weren't. see too given that reason
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may steps up so that three families i don't feel like i have anything to say that aren't ready be calm be said that hasn't already been said by people on the ground there in the community tourism presumably would reject what you have been saying for your in your work for many years know that. is not actually a choice because new liberals often say that we needed and we choose to be a load of b.s. nat west coots two years we bank of scotland they had to be bailed out there was no choice they needed the money more than the n.h.s. ok why do know is that if the point of austerity was to cut the deficit and to stimulate economic growth then it's taken us i believe an unneeded ten years in order to now apparently get back to prevail our level of deficit it has served its purpose by cutting deficit after ten years of misery and death then what reasonable justification is there to keep implementing austerity measures why do we not
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reverse the cuts now and say ok well we've cut deficits so that's go back to making sure the vulnerable people who are normal everyday working people have the life they deserve and work hard for all these issues tackled in this rowing. was a think. thank you he'll be performing his new poem the rhyming guy dressed there in a moment we'll be back on monday with news from gaza and the world at war author taylor downing on how the world ended. three until then you can judge for the us by social media with your money fifty years today a mass general strike across fronts would lead to ten million workers occupying the means of production in the fifth republic here working with because the rhyming guide to austerity austerity has given us cuts the local government over twelve million five hundred thousand council workers lost their jobs cuts to universities eight hundred million reprising fees leaving uni students a loss cuts to services three hundred million sixty from the budgets for our parks cost infrastructure worth fifteen billion cost out of social care three and
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a half fifty two percent cut from education thousands more homeless people on the pavement fifteen thousand bed cuts for n.h.s. patients these are real statistics not speculation they cost three hundred forty three libraries sixty four museums three thousand plus troops three hundred eighty care home companies three thousand mental health workers have been copped to two hundred playgrounds shop three hundred fifty give clubs shop connections shop they distance is shop i would six hundred sure start census shop cuts to n.h.s. forty billion over sixty hospitals a trust facing closure health and social care costs alone are killing citizens one hundred twenty thousand deaths and very far but these are just because we think it is we are real people with feelings and patients but the people who live with the results of day decisions with parents with children with brothers with sisters people ask what is no money in the country well another reason is no money
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in the country is because peroration is make money in the country don't pay tax on the move out the country the rich getting richer with money in the country cutting deficit when put money in the country if the government doesn't put money in the country there won't be any money in the country. i would simply there's just one thing we need to know you got to spend money to make money and that swipe britain's broke. the iran nuclear deal was one seen as a major achievement of american diplomacy but that's no longer the case donald trump's decision to pull out of the deal has reopened a major international problem and i have to analyze betrayed and adversities confused how should the world proceed.
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i've been saying the numbers mean something they matter the u.s. is over one trillion dollars in debt more than ten white collar crimes happen each day. eighty five percent of global wealth you want to be all for rich eight point six percent market saw a thirty percent rise last year some with four hundred to five hundred trade per circuit first second and bitcoin rose to twenty thousand dollars. china is building a two point one billion dollar a i industrial park but don't let the numbers overwhelm. the only number you need to remember in one one business show you can't afford to miss the one and only. the new global economic war is unfolding in the realm of education the right to education as being supplanted by the right to access to education low its high
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education is becoming just another product that can be bought and sold but it's not just about education anymore it's also about running a business and what you could. not could this also. i. want is the place of students in this business model for college i was born now i'm an extremely more high education but the new global economic war.
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donald trump faces a torrent of criticism from leading european politicians and the media over his decision to pull the us out of the big iran nuclear deal. so even consider studying the link between immigration and crime and i was saying public demand for such move is growing. iraq goes to the polls this weekend but the parliamentary elections go to washington worried because none of the main candidates back its policy of countering iran. but also coming up a russian company charged as part of the ongoing trump russia collusion investigation pleads not guilty in court amid prosecutors efforts to delay the case .
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