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don't tell me it doesn't work to what your works ok folks you know have these guys torture doesn't work believe me it works ok trump was applauded for that and many are of course against haskell. and for their troubles that targeted with. many respects. the prospect of. the nominee making incriminating evidence on gina has book secret so that the american people couldn't see on t.v. that she was indeed the torture in chief of al new shiri in thailand make it go to the close session that was too much and that's why i got up and i said that i said senator wyden is entitled to a direct to an honest answer on that question fortunately those resisting the load
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. protesters place all across the country they're facing charges. you know felony counts off. brutalized by the police certainly becoming more aggressive you are certain and you need to put a stop to one hundred nine retired generals and admirals have urged the u.s. senate to reconsider given had ties to you know torturing human beings but make no mistake if the form of torture a gets the job despite everything many many people will cheer and applaud. the senate intelligence committee is expected to hold a confirmation vote on hospitals appointment next week it will be taken up by the full senate later this month the. interior minister of georgia has apologized to demonstrators who have been protesting for the past three days following anti-drug raids in the capital tbilisi georgia. and said that he will thoroughly investigate
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why the raids were carried out is also agreed with protest leaders to start relaxing the state's drug policy demonstrations started on may twelfth after local police searched nightclubs in tbilisi for drugs police reportedly took patrons personal belongings including mobile phones and used physical force against them earlier had dismantled a protest camp in front of the former parliament building but the protests continue . and that doesn't mean i'll be back in about thirty minutes more with more of the weekly. i'm back for my guide to financial survival this is. a device used by professional scallywags to earn money. that's right. completely not accountable and we're just getting more and more into the. totally destabilize the global economy you need to protect or so and get informed as we.
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welcome to worlds apart from the rainy and nuclear deal once branded as a major achievement of american diplomacy has now become the poster child for the absence of a dull trans decision to remove not only reopens a major international problem but it also calls into question the very means of solving it with betrayed adversaries how should the world navigate its way
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forwards to discuss that and now i'm joined by jared blank senior fellow at the carnegie endowment for international peace and former state department chords in a diary for iran nuclear implementation mr blank it's so good to talk to you thank you very much for finding time for us thank you now i'm sure you are greatly disappointed by present trends decision to walk walk away from the. but hopefully there is still some room for damage control how. much of a do you believe can still be salvaged well i suppose you can call damage control there from a u.s. perspective no good outcomes here one possibility is that the path that we're currently on the successful and that's that immediately after president trumps announcement president rouhani said ok we're going to stay in the deal for a little while and give time for the other participants mainly the three european countries to to see what they can offer us to make it worth our while to stay in
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long term that could succeed it would be good from the perspective that would keep her on the nuclear program under control and under inspection but it would leave the united states very isolated and europe for the position to confront other problematic iranian policies alternatively those negotiations might fail which would lead to a resumption of industrial scale enrichment and a serious serious problem for the region in the world now trump is obviously in violation of the american implications but to some extent he's choosing his word because last winter he gave the europeans what looked like an ultimatum that he was going to do it on allows the transatlantic allies could it gree on sound ways of shoring up the deal and i gather from your article is that the talks which began in january were progressing fairly well what do you think may have happened to upset all about progress well i think it's a combination of a lack of sincerity on president trump's part he wasn't really looking to come to
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an agreement with our allies he was looking to act on his animus toward his predecessor barack obama. and also the total chaos and dysfunction in this administration and so the president gave his ultimatum senior officials worked to negotiations with the europeans i don't think there was any process to brief the president on that progress and so you know he heard about it from president mccrone and from chancellor merkel but but had not been buying into the decisions made along the way as you pointed out. and in one of your articles they were a number of things that could have done he could have extended the sanctions waiver to allow a little bit more time for the talks and yet he decided to end it abruptly after all those meetings cordial meetings with president mccrone and chancellor merkel to the russians that looked kind of fluid do you think he was trying to make some
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point to some some nasa edge to the europeans or is it just mr trump being who he is you know it's hard to know if he was trying to send a message but certainly after all the bonhomie of the micro meeting after the supposedly improved atmosphere in the merkel meeting and then he actually treated his intention to make this announcement and sort of telegraphed where it was going while foreign secretary boris johnson was actually in washington trying to convince vice president pence and the secretary of state to continue the negotiations it whether or not he was intending to be rude whether he was trying to send a message this clearly isn't the way allies behave toward one another the russians are often accused of and into taking all sorts of conspiracy theories and i personally think that's a cultural thing rather than political because we enjoy a counter-intuitive explanations and one such conspiracy theory that's been. stalking me as a vice preparing for this program is a thought of whether or not iran is the main thing here do you really think that.
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the major thing here as mr trump sass is this fear of iran's potential nuclear program oh absolutely not if the concern were ron's nuclear program the solution was the j c p o. if anything the pulling out of the running the risk that iran will restart industrial scale enrichment that raises the possibility of increased conflict across the board so if you want to conflict with iran this is the way to go. so this is obviously not about trying to contain iran's nuclear ambitions but also that what i think this is really about is barack obama president trump is trying to tear down the accomplishments of his predecessor i think it's pretty clear from his public remarks that he does not understand what was in the way or what is in the g. c.p.o. a and it doesn't really matter to him he doesn't have a policy objective he just wants to disparage barack obama and what about the
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so-called european allies because. there are some many issues involved i mean the the fate of the european. exemptions from tariffs on steel and aluminum is still very much up in the air mr trump is supposed to make his decision until june first now there is a threat of. secondary sanctions we are talking about very very large chunk of the economy do you think all these economic issues and i'm trying to phrase it very carefully not to be accused of russian bias but still do you think these economic issues are going to be featured in the political discussions on the run sure i mean the first thing you need to say about this is that from your from europe's perspective iran does not matter economically so whatever decisions europe makes these are the the g c p u a are going to be national security could decisions and political decisions if they want iran to stay in the g c p
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a way they're going to have to offer some additional economic benefits but that's not because europe is deeply in hammered of the possibility of trade with iran i do think though to your question your broader question europe is perceiving all of these things as a piece of the steel and aluminum tariffs the recent sanctions on russia. the resumption of sanctions on iran i think you see the united states disregarding the needs and interests of its allies and europe and other allies are going to have to look at the. and decide how to respond in order to protect their own console and yet mr blank you suggested before that in the event of trying to pull out your of will likely side with the united states even if it blames the current administration for ruining this deal and if it does i think the european leaders will essentially have to accept that their level of credibility is the same as trump is that they are moral equals and i personally don't think there's much
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trouble on that side as far as the u.k. is concerned but when it comes to germany when it comes to france. do you think they can afford it from a moral point of view do you think chancellor merkel for one can bring herself to be seen as standing shoulder to shoulder with trump and that well first of all i think that's a little bit unfair trump is the trump is the actor he is the decision maker in this terrible decision the european leaders are now stuck with a series of very uncomfortable dilemmas that they will need to resolve but but they're not the ones who created this disaster what i wrote though was that if iran were to were to respond to our violation with a violation of their own i'm quite sure that europe will side with the united states if you have the u.s. out of out of out of compliance in iran out of compliance then europe will side with us even if we were the if it's our fault if iran manages to stay in compliance i think europe is in a much more difficult situation and the possibility that they will try to strike a additional bargain with iran to provide some replacement economic benefits is
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real but i think the question here is not only striking additional concessions for iran but also negotiating that with the united states because i'm i'm pretty sure you're heard a number of officials in the trauma administrations directly almost ordering european companies german companies to get out of iran to seize their business operations there immediately. that's hardly seems to be building or is that you employ a bit with the allies but you. think that aside do you think the united states needs to be taught a lesson here that's essentially the question i'm trying to ask you do you think the european union needs to take a moral stance in this on this particular issue to show the united states the trumpet ministration and in this example that this is not ok to conduct international politic policies like that i'm an american i'm an american former official i'm not going to call on europe or anyone else to teach the united states
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a lesson i think europe has got a very very hard set of decisions to make where they'll need to decide they need to weigh problems in the transatlantic relationship against their real concerns their national security concerns about the resumption of the iranian unconstrained nuclear program and i'm sympathetic to how difficult those decisions are going to be as i started out by saying from the u.s. perspective there are only bad answers here either you've got europe essentially isolating us because they find a way to save the deal or you've got europe failing to save the deal and return iran returning to unconstrained enrichment which is a huge problem for us for europe and for the world but hold on mr blank you may have forgotten but it was the administration you worked for the obama administration which was very proud of forging the so-called european consensus on sanctions against russia back in two thousand and fourteen and the rationale back down was that. russia in your eyes violated certain norms of behavior
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and needed to be signed a signal that this is not the way you conduct yourself on the international arena now we now have the united states which clearly violated its obligations which is involved in behavior that you clearly disapprove of you made it very clear throughout this program which also leads to an increase in confrontation in the middle east should the united states be sent a similar signal that. this is not the kind of behavior that its european allies welcome on the international arena. leaders around the world including from our closest allies have condemned this decision and the very fact that europe has now shifted from negotiating with the united states to negotiating with iran is a strong rebuke to the decision that president trump made i would i describe president obama's leadership on sanctions with iran with russia with other
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countries a little bit differently from what you did i don't think it's a question about germany making a moral stand or a value judgment what i would say is that we were able to convince countries around the world that on a variety of problems we had a plan and a way forward and that if countries were willing to suffer a certain amount of economic dislocation in the short term we could solve real problems and so in the iran case we were able to convince the government of russia china india as well as our closest allies to stick with us and we got to the j.c. . and some of russia's policies we were able to convince as you say germany and other european countries to suffer some real economic harm because they thought we had a plan i think the problem now is that the united states is proving that we cannot be trusted with this tool and so the chances of getting even our closest allies let alone a nontraditional partner.

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