chia. well the senate intelligence committee is expected to hold a confirmation vote on hospitals appoint next week it will then be taken up by the full senate later this month. interior minister of georgia has apologized to demonstrators who have been protesting for the past three days following anti-drug raids in the capital tbilisi and georgie. said that he will thoroughly investigate why the raids were carried out he has also agreed with protest leaders to start relaxing the state's drug policy demonstrations started on may twelfth after local police searched nightclubs in tbilisi for drugs police reportedly took patrons personal belongings including mobile phones and used physical force against them earlier had dismantled a protest camp in front of the former parliament building the protests continue. and does it for me i'll be back in twenty nine minutes with another look to make me stay with us the national.

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opinions but it's their own opinions and doesn't influence opinions of many other football fans who are buying tickets every day in large volumes. hello and welcome to cross talk we're all things are considered i'm peter lavelle have you ever known a hero well here you'll meet one also what is the future of the transatlantic alliance in the era of trump and the prehistory of the next war in the middle east . across talking resistance i'm joined by my guest mark sloboda he's an international

affairs and security analyst and we have dmitri bobbitt she's a political analyst we spoke nick international origin across in effect i mean you can jump in anytime you want gentlemen we have a special guest on the program today and i want to talk about the level of dissent in the united states and the west in general and freedom of speech and harry is we're joined by ray mcgovern in washington he's a former cia analyst and co-founder of veterans intelligence professionals for sanity ray thank you for joining us here i think most of the viewers of this program know that what has happened to you when you were at the congressional hearings to get through donald trump's nominee part of the head of the cia. can you follow up on what's happened. what were you you were charged what were you charged with and what happens now. i was charged with resisting arrest and also disrupting congress. i will have to appear in court on the twenty fourth i think it is of may

and face those charges so who knows what will happen hopefully the judge will have looked at the videotape and see how how ironic it is that i should be charged with resisting arrest when so to speak i was not on my own power and being dragged out of there one thing that people don't realize is that as senator richard burr yes who's hand in glove with the intelligence people they supposed to be supervising he started the meeting by saying you know we're we're no procession of we're going to executive session but there will be people who need to make a statement or all i would say to them is do it quickly do it fast and then be gone i said to myself wow oh that's a first time i've heard a chairman and invite some. as that was part of what i thought would be ok if i made a short statement and then be gone and turned out that they made sure that i'd be god and not on the my own powers but you know quite. well what was interesting for

me watching the video of you being assaulted is that here we were there is an hearing on a woman that there is ample evidence that she was involved in the brutalizing and torturing people and and then at the same time you were being brutalized and i don't think it's unfair for me to say i think you're seventy eight years old i watched that video a number of times i could not see how you could have possibly been a threat to those police officers and you didn't look like you were resisting in respect of the fact of being force on the ground. thought at the time you may be that your arm had been dislocated and there seem to be no interest other than a few people videotaping it here watching brutalization in public so you know it seems to be brutalization seems to be the themes of the time. ray. you know go ahead mark i had to ask

a question yeah i have to say ray you look pretty good generally for a seventy year old guy seventy eight year old guy a twenty four year veteran of you know as a cia analyst but you look at a little worse for wear i see your glasses are still broken could you show us your hands ray. yeah those are it was a real doozy they did it that a job on may us police state is my prison well you know. that's what we have to sort of keep our sense of you my youngest daughter when she saw the picture of dad how did they make your right ear down so low how did they bring it down so low. ok bill it wasn't the air it was the glasses. let's talk about the level of dissent here because i mean what you were you were invited by the chairman of that committee as a member of the public to express an opinion but you were not allowed to do that so

what does this tell you about the level of dissent and freedom of speech in the us i mean these hearings are very important jena bloody jena probably will get the get through it and be placed as head of cia so what about dissent. remember where you heard it first dear she's not going to be approved ok or enough decent people in the united states are storming to senators she's not going to be confirmed so yeah it was set up those guys were already to pounce on me i took advantage of the fact that one of them moved away from the front so i could get at least a sentence and but you saw the rest of what happened so what we have here is committee this supposed to be an oversight committee see what the what the what the cia's doing but it's richard burr and it's the kind of overlook committee you know they're handing glove with the with the intelligence people who are supposed to be

overseeing or monitoring david lynch and well i think that there's just well for what happened unfortunately it's a part of what trent i mean there are hundreds of people so-called whistleblowers in the united states on the no fly list and a lot of them who are subjected to similar treatment in europe piskorski the polish citizen he has been in jail for two years without trial simply a for giving need to be used to the russian media saying things which their means team does not except in law to be at xander good point and who was also on frequent donati and that to vist for the russian minority in logic he has been arrested a few days two weeks ago and no western media not not a single western media outlet reported to vote that i'm pretty sure this story with a rake is not going to be picked up by the mainstream media you know that's a he's a principally a great deal of brings up a really interesting point because you know. ice i saw

a couple of comments in the mainstream media you know very small margin marginal comments but alternative media and social media picked up on your story like a dead engines i mean it's all over facebook right now i made the announcement on facebook to be on this program the positive reaction was so overwhelming it really made me happy that people are the people do know about this story here and you're not going to learn about it from the mainstream media. well that's the major major point here that's the back story and i grew up in in new york first twenty two years of my life i went to school there i went to university there and i have lots of friends that are still looking at the grass for my top ok this still around now when i go back to college reunions and i say blah blah blah they say right now how would you so i mean oh well it's not in the new york times that's how bad it is it's not in the new york times and course i didn't expect to be in new york times nor was i washington post wall street journal so it's really encouraging that this

is going goes viral among people who feel the same way we do for the most part but it's i guess the main story in my view is that nobody knows what way did what i did and what i did was quote quite within my rights run why didn't the senator had asked jena high school were you there in thailand did you shoot provides the waterboarding of al near shiri and she said. senator that's classified yeah and he said i'm out of time now that is a classified well senator i classified it lots of incriminating evidence against him so you don't like to shake this action she so she she classified so that's let's make sure our viewers understand she classified information about herself ok oh wow there's oversight there not only right not only did she classify it she destroyed evidence right she did it which is also a federally run even though they agree even though ron wyden to run wyden ran out

of time right so he couldn't follow up but here's the chair right and he knows that every one of those senators know that sure she did supervise the waterboarding of on the shiri at that black site entirely everyone knows that ok so why didn't he intervene why didn't he say now miss haswell we have the documents of course you say they're secret but it's a little odd that you should be allowed to classify the so would you answer yes or no lawyer there when he was waterboarding course she would say yes so that's the cover up here that's the the supreme irony that she can classify and make unavailable to the public to the people who are supposed to be watching what's what person this is this nominee to be to head the cia i mean this is an open hearing is to inform the american people which is a no no i'm sorry that's classic i think that's senator that's class of.

readers who are inherently apparently gentleman her nickname bloody gina. number one parent lee she kind of like the nickname and number two there are reports that she enjoyed that kind of well and hence tara geisha and i mean this is kind of a reflection of the mindset you know nice nice nicknames these people have the defendants of democracy a mad dog blow. they're going to defend democracy a bunch hundred percent can you imagine someone that the newer trial you know the german not suspect of that accused of torturing people can you imagine good i can tell you if i did that this is close you fly you know they will say that they would fight in court many of them while they are different resisting jewish law but they will never say it was collection this is as if there are never happened i mean this is what happens to a twenty four year veteran of the cia when he protests against torture and war

criminal let's be clear you know haskell is a war criminal. for not wanting a torture to be the director of the cia and it's not the first time we've seen this type of brutality of course i mean we all remember occupy wall street pepper spray cops ferguson black lives matter and so i keystone x.l. anti the code of pipelines we've seen this again but but really i'm i'm glad that you i'm trying to keep a sense of humor and i've got a couple twitter quotes for you in that vein jeremy scahill i'm sure you know as well as i do ben jena high school is waterboarding the glass ceiling movie who. because you know in america at least at least women have the equal rights to torture you because thirty seconds gina haskell said she worked very hard and sometimes even slept on the floor of her cia station that must have been torture

from danielle brian irish journalist. both gentlemen i'm glad we're making light of this and i'm really glad that ray is ok but again it seems to me this is a sign of time the times that we have a person that is obviously committed to greed is illegal acts the moral acts i was i was fun it galling that he even talked about repeatedly the morality of what the cia does it's quite remarkable gentlemen i'm going to. i've been you know we're going to go to a short break and after that short break we'll continue our discussion on some real news stay with our team. across europe municipalities are taking their water supply back from private companies to meet speedball this is the simple song alone even some company else with though they invite private companies to take over the utilities anybody tell us that opel. allowed some us you guys you got to but you buy them the going to go

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