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children in poverty in britain and why does he use the term international rules based system instead of the more common phrase international law is it because m i five has broken international law is it because m i five breaks u.k. law because here signed in prime minister to raise a maid's oda hand is the organist twenty second twenty seventeen memo explaining how a commissioner will oversee the breaking of british law or criminality by m i five the investigatory powers commissioner shall keep under review the application of the security service guidelines on the use of agents who participate in criminality and the authorizations issued in accordance with them not only that but inquiries are continuing into allegations that m i five spied on the leader of britain's opposition labor party jeremy corbyn turned the other politicians who opposed the iraq war and that war was memorably based on intelligence or dissin from asian produced by british spies but this information according to spy on dr parker comes
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from russia the aim is to sow doubt by flat denials of the truth to dilute truth with falsehood divert attention to fake stories and do all they can to divide alliances. bare faced lying seems to be the default mode yes the british people are unable to understand lies or able to differentiate between truth and falsehood and fake stories so says the head of a defacto criminal agency spying on them but parker the boss of m i five was on a roll then referencing the mysterious british spies surrogates cripple we saw this approach again in solsbury the reckless attempted assassination of circuit ice cripple using a highly lethal nerve agent put numerous lives at risk including that of his daughter it was only through me a miraculous medic. intervention that his and his daughters' lives were saved did
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the scribbles recover was it a miracle because no one seems to know where the scriptures are today but is it preempting any final conclusion by the o b c w that the alleged poison used in england was a russian origin and my five was parker used in speech in berlin to conflated with syria similarly op to the sickening attack on the people of duma in syria the russian state machine pumped out a torrent of lies aimed at undermining international consensus yes because heads of governments around the world or is unable to cope as the british people in the face of facebook posts a tweet here or there undermines the entire international consensus what's the point of the o.p.c. w when russia can tweet some this week though may wonder what the point is of the united nations the i.c.c. or international law i'm joined now by someone who interviewed osama bin laden when u.k. spy agencies should probably have been interviewing him the topic is what this week amnesty international calls war crimes and the breaking of international law
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joining me is the editor in chief of royal youm. who was born in gaza when i got thanks for coming back on before we go to the alleged by has all of the media let's go to this story about what happened on monday aside from what was going on in gaza . unbelievable you know. who said jews are going to hell lead a prayer at jerusalem openly look at that you have to explain that to our viewers because most of the attention was either an event. or or the exactly or called a massacre who is this man what was it doing you know this man actually very radical . we can know for violence supporting the israeli hating muslims and consider everybody you know a sinful and they will go to hell so. unmeasured that to choose him and all of them
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to please that and and the like and. this is evangelical christians believe that when the jews all day then them gives the they want to send them to jerusalem in order to be killed there and yet he was celebrating with them and they are celebrating imagine that you know those are the supporter of those are the men of down on come who is actually taking us to help to be honest with his policies in the middle east and other parts of the world the key is taking us to hell his whole work to help to be honest why should he. go to these provocations and kill the whole peace process and the two state solution and bringing forward movement of the move of the israeli embassy from tel aviv to jerusalem he will jerusalem should be actually part of the final status negotiations so he's challenged everybody he is actually saying to the palestinians
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you don't have any hope for peace you have to accept their israeli dictation and this is the capital of israel so this means it means you know he is playing into the hands of radicals he is actually pushing the whole region to war that's that's the problem there are a billion and a half billion muslims consider jerusalem. only place where there were jurors in an occupied in one thousand nine hundred eighty seven and no other respectable government or government actually moved its embassy to jerusalem say it is part of the final status talk before i get your reaction to the mass killings that occurred in the past forty eight seventy two hours let's just go through some of these headlines that we've been receiving from corporate media new york times dozens of palestinians have died in protests as the u.s. prepares to open its jerusalem. embassy the british state mandated b.b.c.
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this was after death or injuries and reached two thousand and fifty or so garza braced for further violent protests and then finally we got here from bloomberg how must targets fence as gaza bloodshed clouds embassy move what did you feel when you watched the pictures or did you feel when you watched how the media covered it i am sick of violent protest violent protest those people an arm and just raising build their own flag and going to the border and there is a fence between them and their israeli who are will protected and israeli snipers and to cook to call it of violence to protest do they have guns for example do they have for you or are the israelis see it as as they claim israelis that they have explosive subs or blow as they go and of course they had rocks and sling shots so
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presumably the b.b.c. was referring to the and believe all this is a story of truth there are two hundred journalists foreign journalists covering that these protests from the dancer side we haven't heard personally i have been you know watching the media nobody said those people are violent demonstrators and a man in a wheelchair. how can he actually pose any threat to we'll protect it is that really behind the fence and behind the ditches there and shooting those the an armed protester this is the problem so what are the israelis fearful as to why they have been killing allegedly killing. peaceful protesters to be honest some of the israeli press some of the israeli columnists are more truthful than the people on the b.b.c. and also brahms work on
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a sleepy said you know we are covered. those people are brave because they are expressing their feelings and their anger in a peaceful way and we are shooting them behind behind you know that our offense be well protected areas or hells and that's what that is there any press say and those people are saying a violent demonstration how it comes out how many israeli were injured by violent demonstrations how they can actually reach the israelis if they are gods of one one injured israeli two thousand palestinians i know you're born. i just i want to just to add one thing ok there are two thousand people were injured you know there is no hospital in gaza and if there is a hospital there is no equipments if there is meticulous airstrikes also on girls are the same goes under the gaza under sanction a very very tight sanction so those people actually wouldn't find the medical stuff
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or the medicine to be treated to properly so most of them a lot of a great number of them will die or you know the limbs will be imputed simply because there is no equipment to deal with their injuries. or hell one peaceful method that some around the world are using against israeli violence has been b.d.s. movement boycott divestment sanctions what you make of this than it was in the from the jerusalem post i don't know why you prince william prince william you know traditionally royal history with a visit to israel in summer of two thousand and eight why he is going there you know i'm surprised is he going there to promote peace there is he going there to approve is that at this royal ever to go to israel he shouldn't go britain is behind the catastrophe benette bout of the palestinian if he's going to apologize to the palestinian saying sorry you know we are behind you will disaster situation
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if he's going to say you know we regret what happened we didn't actually give you a homeland like that is the core of the bill for the declaration again it is a he didn't think of the mission of that jerusalem as a capital of israel it is indorsement to there is that are easily citylink policy on the west bank it is a provoke petion to the palestinian people who are the victim of the british bill for the declaration british policy of the mandate of palestine and nine hundred forty eight he is going to celebrate not about that seven seventieth anniversary of the disaster of knockabout of palestine that's the problem is going to the west bank but he won't go to gaza as well as he wouldn't go to the. why he's going to the west bank for example to talk to endorse the settlement eight hundred israeli settlers do settlers in the west bank for example is he going to get you know there
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is a list that we all get which divided you know that palestinian and from the israeli palestinian authority officials will meet him i don't know definitely they will meet people you know because simply. he is he may be here asked to visit them he asked to meet them so politely be able they will meet him and they could explain this is the weight of the but if i am. prison i wouldn't actually meet you don't say sorry you know you are coming to not too independent palestine not to liberated palestine and you are coming you know the people and the patient and this is this is this is your policy which make them patient and the this is your policy we used you cheated us and the west and britain in particular sit at the president go and talk to your enemy go and. you know make a settlement with them this is the best way for you and what the policy and they accepted this advice they talked for twenty five years with the israelis and they
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were rewarded not by the israeli withdrawal not by independent palestinian state but eight hundred thousand settlers now to actually take jerusalem all of that negotiating table and make it their own capital of israel and i want that back said several times britain should actually apologize. to the palestinian people is he going to kill prince william that coming with apologies to us all coming to us. so i think i would watch and see how he would be deceived by the people by a president who actually said sort of times you know britain should i think they should apologize to the palestinian people. thank you after the break we'll talk to a former a p c w official named by wiki leaks. is
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the middle east stumbling towards a region wide war it sure looks like it trumps decision to withdraw from the iran nuclear deal and set into play a cascade of events difficult to manage and control does anyone gain from this impending cataclysm. seventy four design
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submissions. seven thousand islands. to join judges. and eight hundred sixty nonstop days of. the russian. and a russian mobster. show you how. the crimea bridge was built. witnessed the construction of a unique transport artery. out of crimea. most of those you know one of the good old more familiar fate of the french. welcome back well from alleged war crimes in palestine to potential peace in korea i'm joined now from the hague by former ambassador of the dutch foreign ministry
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and o.p.c. w. permanent representative mark vogel are as director of the korean peninsula energy development organization he helped forge a deal between pyongyang and washington ambassador welcome to going underground the world arguably the mainstream media criticizing donald trump for the move the u.s. embassy in jerusalem but even the most visceral enemies have had to admit that donald trump has been the answer to the korean problem on that peninsula that would you agree i would agree that. we have to wait and see. and we use surprised however has someone who's really worked on that region and has seen the comings and goings of the possible terrible conflict involving even nuclear weapons were you surprised to see how quickly it seemed to move yes i was i think like most international observers there has been quite
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a spectacular turnaround. of the new year beginning of this year i've personally convinced that most of the credit for this turnaround goes to the republic of korea the presidents of which us worked very hard behind screeds. to make all this possible to induce both parties were both antagonists maybe i should say north korea and the us into sitting down together and talk if moon jane should actually be getting most of the credit and drum arguably stealing is thunder then what about the dangers for north korea we know where when countries remove their nuclear weapons what happens to them because we have the libyan example of gadhafi dangerous from kim jong un well we'll have to
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wait and see whether he is ready at all to give up its nuclear weapons. you know it on this issue us on those diplomatic or political issues out there are dreamers and there are skeptics somewhere in between i thought we had this as a realist i am not so confident as yet that north korea is really ready to give up its nuclear weapons especially not on the terms there's the u.s. house being circulating namely complete earth verifiable and irreversible all that on the short term. it is has become clear the north koreans have a different approach to denuclearize they shouldn and then again the big prefer a phased approach a step by step process. in the positions taken up
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by the u.s. so now this is not being acceptable but of course peeling ass close relations with tap run and is able to see what happens to deals i'm not sure the cv idea is involved in the j p c o a i don't know what it is about you people in your acronyms what do you think pyongyang is going to think of trump's violation of that deal which indeed involved the un security council resolution in terms of the korea deal in the perception of the north koreans no doubt there is hope that maybe doubt as to the reliability of the us as a negotiating are not whether that. sketches skepticism is real or that they will just use it at the negotiating table we will have to wait and see again but there will certainly use it and and i expect there will
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raise the question. to the american well look if we side do with you what is our guarantee that a next president or a next session is not walking away from it do you trust the way to verify things after all or what the white house obviously doesn't trust that organization the united states. has for some time now being skeptical of the value or the the meaning of the united nations system. i think this is not just trouble mr bush is this is a traditional i do tude and so i'm not surprised that there is this this this this distrust in washington was really up to the. bus on the other hand the
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idea in my personal view is a very good i owe instruments for poor or to handle this kind of situation if they are with rose to do so they have done so in the pass before north korea walked out of the your perforation agreement there were inspectors of the. india country to look at nuclear sites so it's not inconceivable that this will happen again and i personally if you go about it in favor of the i.a.e.a. playing such a book what's it like being a political football you are at the organization of the prohibition of chemical weapons one would say another one of these u.n. institutions that come under attack from all sides. it's what's it like when you're working say the o.p.c. w. in different countries or trying to use your evidence to advance different cases united states and also as you go out the russians were among the major players
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you know w during my tenure there during three years because these two countries had the largest stocks of chemical weapons that were being destroyed so in my recollection. these two countries were extremely cooperative and crucial in making the c.w. function properly if you say there is a distrust of the americans towards un general. i think this certainly does not apply to the open c.w. i have never seen or read any indication that the americans have express distrust or oppose the wrote of the c.w. really i mean because jose was stunning the former a p c w boss is on the record for saying the present national security adviser of
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the united states john bolton threatened his children and said we know where your sons live when when boustani i'm not sure when you were whether you were working there the time refuse to or kowtow to george w. bush and and tony blair the fact of you are you go back to long way it was not. last. time mr bizarrely was the director general of the organization you had already left when i got there. in two thousand and two. but i think you must have known why i left. and on earth who knows i know i. you know i. haven't but how is it well for our audience how did he leave how did he leave john bolton got rid of him. oh that's your interpretation i'm not a historian i'm not ready to comment on that. i know that in the eyes of not just
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the united states but quite a number of states parties of you know you most of the study was not the ideal leader of the organization or not whether that should have or should not have led to the consequence that the less it is another question because of course the relevance of as you call it history today is that with the script all affair in britain moscow says one thing london's another and then our foreign secretary had to be corrected by the porton down the burra tree which i'm sure you know very well . it's that sort of political jockeying presumably that the o.p.c. w. officials have to contend with right now left. the. c.w. when was it two thousand and five. so you're asking me too much i'm not probing very closely since veyron saddens what is happening in your going as asian and i know not more then don't you also and how much should the public trust
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organizations like the o p c w or the i.a.e.a. given that it is these organizations that have become arbiters between states and the propaganda in this information is regularly on our t.v. screens and newspapers when i have to i share your luzhin that they are that they have become arbiters. they are instruments they are organizations that are instrumental in implementing the cohen will agree policies of international institutions like the united nations. and i'm very positive about them doing so. so i don't share your criticism. of the criticism of these organizations and just finally on korea what do you think we should watch out for in the singapore meeting in june surely there must be another
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choreography before hand and don't trump wouldn't go all that way if there was going to be a disastrous failure in the singapore is not impossible but there be a deal and. although that many europeans are somewhat skeptical and apprehensive about the style tactics that president trump sometimes uses he may well turn out to be the very person to make a deal possible because he is someone i think who wants it quick results and visible results. i think that in the past when previous attempts were made to engage with the north koreans without a lot of computing degree. the nazis it remains were made to work on a step by step basis my understanding is that it was no the americans want is
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a comprehensive deal you know including a number of elements that count. in use north korea to accept. so i think president trouble is. what place to try to say yes we're already said if he's not satisfied he will look hesitates to what. so he's taking an enormous risk. but i think it's worth it ambassador thank you and that's it for the show we're back on saturday with a former israeli ambassador who believes israel is an apartheid state fueled by british apocryphally until then you can keep in touch with us but social media will see on saturday twenty nine years to the day of the death of historian c.l.r. james whose book the black jacobins illuminated the legacy of haitian revolutionary move a tour of the world. but
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politicians to do something to. put themselves on the line they did accept or reject. so when you want to be president i'm sure. you somehow want. to be right to be precise this is one of the four three of the four people. i'm interested in the warnings about how. things should be moving. the united states can always add a. new use and its tax on other country's. economic sanctions are often just the beginning another thing you like to do is place some military pressure on the countries attorney talking about. and there has to be an effort to demonize that country and the leader of that
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country because. we have a responsibility for the hate. and we need to make rules for the rest. because without us there will be change. in twenty forty you know bloody revolution to change the demonstrations going from being relatively peaceful political protests to be creasing the violent revolution is always spontaneous or is it you know or here i mean your list book video in the new bill is out of the new school in the middle of the fall the ukrainian president recalls the events of twenty four g.
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and. those who took. it invested over five billion dollars to assist ukraine in these and other goals that will ensure a secure and prosperous and democratic. across europe municipalities are taking their water supply back from private companies who p.m.a. to me to people this will simple song alone even some company get elsewhere. invite private companies to take over the utilities many by the telescope was allowed to miss you guys who got the going to go. have been this is a must because i'm out of it for you remember the left bill brought up locals are ready to stand up for the basic human right of access to water it's about water but it's also over much more and more it's about to hurt and the redistribution of.
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debt downwards we want all. israel is an occupier and it keeps terrorizing the turkish president denounces the israeli military's deadly response to the palestinian protests deep under israel and the united states see massive protests across the arab world. r.t. hears from doctors in cal said he sees wards are overflowing and medical supplies are drying up also this hour. looking at the latest official so for them to try. to see them fitted. with friends like that who needs the leave the e.u. turns on donald trump accusing the u.s. leader of not being much of a friend for pulling out of the around nuclear. on their.

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