other cia officers be held accountable for a fundamentally flawed cult of intelligence that was empowered by the president and his department of justice to conduct such torture when they just doing their jobs in an effort to prevent further terrorism or perhaps the cia as an institution needs to be scrutinized as much as the officials who sanctify their abuses and a dangerous cycle abusing power in the name of national security that abuse was on full display as former cia officer ray mcgovern was arrested and dragged from the senate intelligence committee hearing for daring to protest nomination here was a seventy eight year old veteran of intelligence forcibly detained by capitol police for speaking his truth how far we've come from the principles of our founding fathers his attorney. there he didn't hilliard noted there are only two people who have been jailed for the torture program not the cia agents that conducted them but cia whistle blower john kiriakou and now former cia officer ray

mcgovern can our country really expect the rest of the world to follow our example with such blatant hypocrisy we're not watching the hawks here looking in the mirror at our patriotic. us former cia officer reed thank you so much for joining us today now do you think the appointment of gina housefull as. cia director is a worse than our former d.c.i.

john brennan who was deputy executive director of the cia overseeing many black sites while she was only overseeing what now wasn't she just following orders when administering enhanced interrogation techniques. well. my german friends would would say it's a choice between pest. plague and cholera ok now john brennan. he was on the routing for all the torture memos ok he publicly defend the kid and while we say rendering kidnapping people off the streets of europe and sending them to the egypt since he was fully cognisant of thing now with respect to gina house bill we know she was actually supervising the torture at that base in thailand and when. senator ron wyden aster at the hearing just

a week ago were you there supervising the top he said the waterboarding of about in the sherry she said. senator that's that's classified. and he was out of town out of town so you know if he should have what he would have asked those who will classified that she would have to say senator i did i choose classified my own incriminating incriminating evidence and so we'll have to go and close section this afternoon so i mean now this is a public airing that means the idea is to tell the american people who this person is and they were deprived of finding out who she was because she classified the incriminating evidence against her isn't this is a great country a way. goes to show that she's been an insider in the cia at one point she was briefly the head of the well director of national clandestine services which was previously helped you know position

a position that was renamed but people like allen dulles frank was in there other extraordinary members the cia had previously had this type of office inside cia so she's a longtime insider thirty three years in the cia as far as i know why do you think trump chose her because she will do what she's told that's how she got in the position where she is you know trump sr torture works it's great we're going to waterboarding and worse so why would he pick somebody who would not carry out those orders i mean whole all it doesn't parse so for her to say well i might not i might not obey the orders the president will follow that's why she was picked and you know this business about you know having a woman to head the cia i think that's great i think that should happen. but not this kind of woman who pretty much followed orders from the men in charge and that was served up as the person that will continue to take orders not only from them but from the president so it's a bad omen so what is it with john mccain who is

a notable war hawk and he actually seems to not support house was nomination he said that her role in overseeing the use of torture is disturbing and her refusal to acknowledge tortures and morality is disqualify. vying for her but here is someone obviously who didn't oppose brennan and he talked about his role in torture so what do you think is going on with mccain's position i think mccain is aware of this very specific evidence that she supervised the waterboarding of elm the shiri she can't get away from that waterboarding cannot be made legal and then the circumstances torture is illegal it's immoral but it's not illegal because it's laws against it is illegal because it's just plain wrong ok now mccain is getting close to his maker. sometimes that explains is pretty simple i mean does he want to go in record and meet his maker and say well you know i voted for because it's a thing you do in washington don't want to book the well i don't know i don't know

what his motivation is but he's much closer to the hospital thing because haskel herself was directly involved so maybe that's the explanation or i want to switch gears a little bit here i want to talk about your arrest that took place last week out what exactly were you doing that led to this a rast and did you get hurt well i did get hurt. let me tell you how it started when the committee hearing began the chairman richard burr of north carolina he sort of in a different way said well now as an open hearing in some of you will probably want to make statements so if you have to do it do it quickly do it fast and and begone . i'm sitting here oh. i thought a minute before i may have to do that and i did when senator wyden asked her or you supervising the would have boarding of on the sherry that's she said you know well senator i can't tell you because because because it's classified because they

classify it and nobody said anything everybody knew they had the documents showing what she had done the chair should have said now ms haskell we all know what the answer to that is you certainly know it's a yes or no it's simple it's or could you just tell us and she would have had to say yes sort of to the senator i can't because this is classic classified so i thought that you know the american people deserve a little better than that you know here they are millions of i'm looking at the t.v. and so when the police officer who was between me and hospital went to the bathroom or something i just approached and i said quietly i'm sorry to interrupt but i think senator wyden is entitle to a straight answer to his question and here it is. and then i got to be set set on by for four offices and you know in the bronx where i come from you know in this kind of case you'd look at your wounds and people that are asking you say well

you should see the other guy right here should see the other guy well you should see those other four guys they were in hospital still you know well not really make a joke but you know it was a little overwhelming with the four of them and we soon got that though you saw it happen a low i mean did they not hear what the chairman said at the beginning of the session apparently it was all although sure eight they would they would be ready to pounce on it wherever did what i did and what i did was simply interject some sensible state and saying look you know she knows the american people a title to know where you were in charge of the waterboarding and the shiria and the answer to that is yes now. the america people still don't know the answer to that is yes why well because senator it's classified and i classified it isn't that great. and is the federal government to pursue charges against you i have to go to court on the twenty fifth i'm accused of disrupting congress and resisting

arrest while you resist very hard for graft in brooklyn and if you think you were not really resisting from my perspective but if i want to get to this question about the cia because victim or said he famously called it a cult of intelligence and you know we talk about you know someone like gene hospital following orders and knowing how to obey is it really a cult i mean it is the cia operating under that mentality and under that auspice that they pretend to be operating for our best interest but really it's all about power in their own internal politics essentially and they serve other masters than we are where. we're you know it's really hard to explain this sort of thing with their basically to cia's the one the truman intended to be an analysis group which would have access to all information is there for central right and tell them what's going on in the world now that became corrupted very early on when all the money started pouring into the covert action people who overthrew governments and now torture people so they get all the attention and it's always

a bad idea to have an operator like that as head of the whole thing because the analysis goes the emphasize where was the analysis on the latest russian strategic weapons systems who's going to tell president trump look bibi netanyahu is lying through his teeth we've been telling president stuff for two decades now that evidence that he that the slide show with was concocted by mossad his intelligence agency who's going to tell them that not the analysis that not the analysts that they seem to be devoted mostly to targeting drones and you know trying to find evidence of right. collusion with trump i mean the whole place is to hell in a handbasket and and the operatives us you know who they who are they responses to they do what the president says and the president will we know what the presidents

of it after and many of them don't want to lose a war and so they say well maybe we should put maybe if we put moderate rebels in syria maybe we won't lose that war and it's just i'm never quite so bad the operators just kind of salute and they're all in favor of mostly the only people in the york times talks that you know very very popular well of course she's popular with the people they thought to work for and tortured people would you have any recommendation for who the d.c.i. should be yeah i should not be is. come out of congress like tenet. come out of the operations directorate there was only one good director that came out of operations that was bill colby you know what he said i worked directly for him should be a person who has made it in his or her own right and it's a person who did think that she or he has to play on the president's team right ok so she needs to assert herself or his self and say look this is what the president

he said only to tell it straight if it messes up our operations so be it i'm going to do it absolutely thank you so much for joining me now the focus on that actually . and there we go as we go to break cock watchers don't forget to let us know what you think of the topics we've covered on facebook and twitter are full shows that are to dot com and coming up author and journalist nice blumenthal steps into the hot talk israel gaza and the politics of embassies to watch in the hot. that's.

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and in recent weeks one hundred palestinians have been killed and ten thousand others have been injured at the hands of israeli troops that's according to palestinian health officials things escalated when the u.s. relocated its embassy to druze a woman held an opening ceremony earlier this week on monday forty thousand people took to the streets and demonstrating against the relocation of the u.s. embassy as a result at least sixty people were killed marking the latest incident in a series of protests along the border between the gaza strip and israel although israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu praises the u.s. embassy move there rabba league and the french government both condemned it calling it a legal and a violation of the united nations security council resolutions surrounding the

conflict the us isn't the only country with an embassy and jerusalem today guatemala followed in the u.s. it's footsteps opening a new embassy there as well other countries have expressed interest in relocating their embassies to jerusalem however it's still unclear whether they will actually follow through for more on this story and what that means for media's coverage of may have messed up we are joined today by all their end journalists max blumenthal thank you so much for day max now at least as i said earlier sixty people there were killed in protests on monday and human rights groups are saying that just because protesters were approaching crossing or damaging the fence on the gaza israeli border does not amount to life lost or serious injuries so much do you think israel was out of wind and use excessive force here you know i think we really have to consider the feelings from the israeli perspective of that sense i mean the poor electrified fence the poor. militarized walls that actually are

perched with machine guns remote controlled machine guns you know that's really what we're hearing from the likes of the washington post editorial board which referred to those fifty eight people who were killed shot by snipers with leeds laser range finders from long range at some points as nominal civilians nominal civilians not even civilians so of course israel used excessive force but what i want to do is kind of interrogate the context behind these killings ok israel decided they made a calculated decision that they could not hold back this mass of protesters with tear gas alone or with rubber bullets and these are the kind of methods i've seen on display in the west bank there is too many people and they're going to have to kill some of them and israeli official yesterday actually said that they don't have enough room in jail cells for them so they're just going after you know kill a few actually said that. and the reason behind this is the logic of

seeds and occupation and the logic the internal logic of a jewish state now the people in the gaza strip most of them about seventy to eighty percent are refugees if they come back to israel what is now israel what used to be their land where their homes are and they start reuniting with family members and they start coming together with people from the west bank and people in jerusalem and they're no longer in this warehouse this human warehouse there's no more jewish state because the jewish state is predicated on the jewish demographic majority it's as if the us had declared itself a white christian nation and had to shoot mexicans coming in because they're not white that's israel's logic here and that's why we see not just excessive force but what israel's doing is actually defending ethnic borders that really calls into question israel's claim to be jewish and democratic let's talk about the u.s. in guatemala both moving to bear and. these two jurors

a lot and other countries are in talks about doing the same can you tell us why you believe this is a bad move and what could come as a result of this it's amazing the u.s. managed to get quite amala one country to join if you can call it the coalition of the billing i mean quite a mall is just basically been owned by the u.s. ever since the u.s. removed your cobol arbenz in one nine hundred fifty four in a cia who had the dictator rios montt carrying out reagan's wishes and commit committing genocide against the mayans in the eighty's and guatemala as economy basically subsists on u.s. aid and remittances from immigrants or in the u.s. so it basically does whatever the u.s. wants the rest of the world not totally on board with the u.s. moving its embassy to jerusalem what the u.s. has done is consolidate the israeli colonization of jerusalem but more importantly i think you look at like richard haass who's the head of the council on foreign relations here in the u.s. the premier face of the foreign policy establishment condemning trump's decision to

move the embassy why is he doing that it's because what the u.s. has done under trump and this decision was paid for by right wing pro israel billionaires is blow up the peace process blow up the two state solution forever and remove the u.s. as a broker which means that u.s. empire has less influence in israel palestine that's why richard haass is condemning the decision so there's also this interesting dispute going on on twitter publicly but obviously it's no no the issue of turkey and israel because turkey expelled is really at ambassador and the consul general heightening tensions to a place we really haven't seen since maybe two thousand and twelve between the two countries even though they've cooperated for the last six years especially on syria they had a very mutual agenda. and yet now the tensions are being why is turkey doing this and what could this mean for the region if turkey and israel are hostile to each other now that's a that's a great point. and we don't know. where this is going to go but you can go on

twitter right now and look at. him his put her account in benjamin netanyahu twitter account and they're in a flame war they're actually trolling each other on twitter no one's got more re tweets right now the netanyahu or go on is definitely doing this for domestic consumption he's trying to pose as the leader of the month the islamic world he's trying to show that he's the true supporter of the palestinians and netanyahu is catering to his domestic base they hate they generally hate muslims so you have the flame war in public what's going on in private is entirely different remember there was a massacre of the turkish aid boat the mavi marmara by israeli commandos in two thousand and ten then six years later erdogan goes ahead and normalize relations with israel they commence military cooperation as you said they're working together in syria but now something different is happening in syria and that's where i'd look turkey has consolidated its position in northern syria it's working with iran and russia through the sochi a stand up process the process there's

a real peace process and israel's trying to interrupt the peace process because it wants syria to be perpetually at war so this could actually lead to serious friction between turkey and israel which means friction between turkey and nato and the us and further withdrawal of u.s. influence in the middle east and then in terms of the overall middle east game you mentioned earlier you say you're saying that it's basically israeli say pro is really billionaires that are pushing this agenda as far as why trump is relocating the embassy to jerusalem and do you say you don't see it maybe like it's a biblical some biblical aspect motivating it is it purely money and neo con influence there are two factors at play you named to both number one the neo con influence sheldon adelson the casino billionaire bernard marcus the founder of home depot and paul singer a vulture capitalist who tanked argentina's economy these are the three figures who contribute the most to the groups in washington they contributed forty million to pro trump super pacs and. sixteen sheldon adelson was part of the delegation in

jerusalem so there's the likud make money then there's the biblical prophecy christian right characters robert jeffress gave the invocation at the opening of the embassy robert jeffress is someone who said jews mormons and muslims are going to hell. then pastor john hague gave the closing benediction john hagy cornerstone church in san antonio the biggest christian zionist figure in america has said that hitler is half jewish and that the anti christ is a half breed jew this is the figure that was brought to give the cot the invocation and the benediction in jerusalem alongside jared cushion or the orthodox jewish presidential son in law amazing right what trumps catering to two bases here is catering to his donor base and his main street main constituency in the bible belt the christian right and that's what this is about and it's going to have devastating consequences on the ground speaking of this issue of who was over the

last few months he's been the israeli police have recommended that he be indicted for corruption charges he's been embattled all year you don't hear about it very much do you think that the political landscape of israel is going to be changing this year because of potential watergate type moment and is the situation with the escalation of conflict and in the with palestine apart a part of that political internal political process in israel yeah i mean i'd urge everyone watching this to watch pills documentary crime minister on netanyahu is corruption scandals and you know she went to israel and showed how all the all the top police officials were calling for netanyahu is indictments there were protests in tel aviv major protests every week across israel calling for his imprisonment then suddenly you have him exchanging rockets with syria and iran deal is destroyed by trump which was a major part of netanyahu is agenda and now the embassy's move to jerusalem and he's taken all of the talk about corruption and his his own crim criminality according to the israeli police completely. off the table and that is another major

achievement for netanyahu i don't know for going to be seeing a watergate moment here that we have about a minute now but we could talk but you're saying you really think they can be able to consolidate his power and make it to the next election he's creepy is completely controlled the israeli press he's basically working with one of the top billionaires who runs the major tabloid in israel i know that. he does go to trial will be extremely dramatic and if he is not. found guilty if he's not found guilty the people who put him on trial including the attorney general who has high hopes to be the head of the israeli supreme court were gone the israeli supreme court their careers will be destroyed and netanyahu will go down as the hero of his right wing base what is the public support for his public support is not widespread but he has the most powerful constituency of anything in israel and they're the most rabid constituency that any prime minister in israel has ever commanded

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they're not stances not only and they cannot be a part of the. they have taken the seats of nittany out. of the solution based on this region what is the listener's extremists in this region have been doing since and bravado demolition by the semitism is a decisions and actions more than any time before moderates in the tub or people like me have been destroyed but it was such actions such fascism such opposite side being excited by israel and israel getting away with it i think this is opening the get off this speech. across europe municipalities are taking their water supply back from private companies to me to people this will simple song alone even some company i guess will elsewhere so they invite private companies to take over the utilities anybody tell us. miss you guys who got the program might be cool.

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