get along with the rest of the world have enough food that they will know you're also often misunderstood in our intentions to write they this is one one of the thing with me because of again the cold war mentality i mean again it's always spot caged in some western media that this is correct this is so wrong you know so we have to judge countries actions and lead there said the rector gives case per case you know you're going to everything the us the us is correct or you can oppose us everything the us is wrong so we need more objective but the reality is. you know media tries to give the facts but also leave. their worldview so this is where social media and direct communication comes in unfortunately it's sometimes called fake news is sometimes is but it's sometimes actually a different world view packaged as fake news by powerful people now i know that russian particularly is interested in marketing its nuclear power and transfer the expertise to the and to the philippines i wonder is that something that may be of

interest to you particularly the nuclear energy issue from what i understand it's quite a contentious subject in your country we are interested in everything that they saw russia and we hope that we can interest russia with everything that's filipino from our warm hospitality to our beautiful islands countryside mountains from your sophisticated military hardware to your transport that vehicle is exciting motorcycles you know i ask you specifically about it then you can take this from what i knew if you actually built one nuclear power for but it never went into operation because bill you are in the us that infested with corruption we pay of course u.s. . company under the guidance of international financial institutions the us which.

corruption has been exposed in the last few decades so the contention it's not the use of nuclear power itself or aid or help off russia or russian technology the issue of more of it's the location of where d. but the nuclear power plant is that the controversy is more if we should build there because there are strong feelings given the history but in so far ask operation in this matter we've signed agreements where very our scientists are very excited that our department of science and technology our department of energy is excite that the way it works with your. agencies in atomic and nuclear fields ok well secretary we have to take a very short break now but he will be back in just a few moments. join me every thursday on the elec simon chill and i'll be speaking to guest of the

world of politics school business i'm showbusiness i'll see you then. what politicians do you suppose to. put themselves on the line if they get accepted or rejected. so when you want to be president and she. want to be preached. to going to be precise this is what the three of them will be good. interested always in the long. across europe municipalities are taking their water supply back from private companies to meet the people this is the simple song alone even some company elsewhere they can find private companies to take over their utilities anybody tell

us throw posts a lot so mr gus you got to be well on the come up because. my been this is. just because i'm out of it over or over some more you know until the lift hill brought up locals are ready to stand up for the basic human rights of access to water it's about water but it's also over much more than war it's about the hurt and the redistribution of all of. this. debt downwards we want to. welcome back to worlds apart peter thomas secretary of foreign affairs of the. secretary we mentioned the situation in. before and i think it would be fair to say that both the attack on that c.t.

and the long destructive siege that followed deep fear is among asian countries as well as across the world that isis may seek to expand in other locations after suffering defeats in syria and iraq just the other day we heard the devastating attack in indonesia perpetrated by a whole family including four children the whole return from syria do you in the philippines understand how to deal with that issue how good you are first of all our hearts go out and we express our condolences to all the victims of terror this worldwide event here in russia you are no stranger to. extremists and acts of terrorism. it was a big. full experience you know fighting. your own countrymen and fighting extremists you know it was the first time that there was fighting in a city in an urban setting it's usually outside and sunni they say that you know if

there are religious undertones or society or historical differences but here it was just filipino against filipino in the name of a pervert dead. and already you say on the one occasion that there was a real danger at one point of time. forming from being a battle between terrorism and the. war the danger is there the president is in the best position because he's seen this he was going around the camps already saying watch out keep a keen eye you know it will just take it's like gasoline spread all over and it just takes a spark and he knew at that time that syria and iraq would soon stop the lies and the diaspora and isis would be defeated and where we'll go the couple hundred or a couple of thousands of southeast asian jihadist fighters who join diets where will they go how do you think these people should be dealt with because the it's

not only the fighters it's also the families it's also the children again the indonesian recent example shows that the children could also be used as he said bombers well you know. it should be dealt like a no nonsense father with a firm hand but an open heart you know no one wants to scold or put in jail or stand in the corner his son or his daughter you know but if you look surely let these people back into your house and you know that they present a potential danger if they are terrorists then they are a trip to all nations to all people having said brothers in the govt have to communicate that to us there's need for rehab in the. asian there's a need to communicate to their families that they have been rescued and not captured you know but there's so much to be done from intelligence sharing from. taking out the fertile ground to for recruitment of that kind of mentality so

poverty and crime and drugs put together just create that fertile ground of breeding extremists and this kind of ideology now you mentioned already did that the united states and the philippines have just. joint military exercises to build on the lessons of the moroccan siege involving some eight thousand troops from both sides as well as a small contingent from australia and japan is that a sign that your political relations with the united states to be restraint as you sad over the criticism about the war on drugs. is it a sign that that relationship isn't proving well additional term military to military. relation you know never suffered. it is frank friends the detective said that there is an exercise this would be suspended we suspended all of the exercises in the south china sea and with regards to certain aspects of the eight

thousand you mentioned today it was more for disaster prevention so yes we focused on that and he's keeping it that way what i'm saying is that if people two people the relationship is still strong military to military relationship is strong and you know russia and china have never said to us and never interfered with our relationship with the united states so that they don't have such close to the million ties yes but that makes the relationship strong when you respect the bilateral relationship with your friend with the other friend you know this isn't grade school or high school where you if you fight with a friend you want all your other friends to fight with him or to you know you have to have much your relationships and that includes security and defense arrangements now speaking about maturity and leadership present to terence's personal style his temperament his sense of humor sometimes compared to that of donald trump do you find that comparison flattering. you know they're both authentic speakers they

say or do a tweet what what they want but you know in the philippines he's been compared more with president put in political determination political will a vision of what to do in the country remember the problem with the there is just not only who and what they do in the direction but also the circumstances at home you know it's very hard to judge a president donald trump he's a good friend to the philippines but he is in a political circumstances where there are you know challenges in all fronts so we have challenges with the u.s. congress challenges with the n.g.o.s who are using human rights as a political weapon challenge just sometimes with the state department but we're trying to build those bridges you know but in the meantime president that there isn't really care who it is compared to you know he just wants to do a good i understand that it is very easy for the leaders to publicly shrug that kind of that kind of criticism and i think it gets to you and when your country's

being maligned over and over again it's it's not pleasant especially if you're dealing with some real life but president that they're the best and care as far as he's concerned he likes president trump they have a good connection they talk frankly but this fire suppressant that this concern he very much like see he's called president putin one of my idols you know so and he says it's none of your business if i like him or not now incidentally president trump also has his own druck epidemics to tackle and correct me if i'm wrong he has not only refrained from criticizing the philippines over the conduct of the war on drugs he actually sat and praised president for the quote unquote deliverable job joe job on the drug problem does the philippines assessed chomps efforts as their. crises in the same way do even analyzed but the end of

a demo the president has said that he's very supportive he has empathy he understand what the americans are going through unfortunately the e.u. the us and western media do not understand that there are different challenges when it comes to drugs. now a president is talking about opioids but in the past it was about more of cocaine and cocaine and methamphetamine have different effects in cocaine it's a health issue with the person but that person doesn't go around raping people killing people raping two years old shooting their father met them felt the means had that effect and that's what they were trying to do you can counter that with saying that even when you have a mentally disabled person committing a crime you do you put him through assessment and that's what we're doing but this human rights groups wants to legalize prohibited drugs and it's making it

appear there's an even the you end up with two and said there's no evidence that this kind of drugs need to violence so even with the mentally disturbed person you know identified a dangerous dangerous to himself or herself then just to family and new remedies so we are just remedying the epidemic of drugs illegal drugs in the philippines with respect precedent trumps efforts but we also recognize said that human rights and drug issues have become so politicized you know that we're not discussing it in the level to solve it but to criticize each other and helpful. secretary i notice that the war on drugs is pretty much the only thing that the western reporters ever ask you about and i don't want to focus on too much as that but i do want to ask you one more question on on this issue i came across a poll from last year we suggest that seventy. three percent of filipinos worry about becoming victims of extrajudicial killings and that's about as high as the

general public support for the crusade again against crime so that leads me to conclude that people support the goal but they are a little bit apprehensive about the math do you share because it depends on the question in the poll so if you ask do you support so for example if you say do you support nuclear power and you get eighty percent and then a fallout happens somewhere and you ask the same question are you concerned that the fallout will happen of course your answer will be you know but look at the later polls nowadays you know people are seeing that we have safer streets people are seeing that yes there are abuses but this was because of fund abuse of police force not because of precedent that there is this directive and with us now by modern day quick meant more surveillance more c.c.t.v. cameras there more assurances to the public that you know this drug is

precisely against those who violate the law and those who are violent you know president there has told president trump and president has listened carefully that we don't shoot people in cold blood but what did america need to report that president that they did not discuss human rights so you know they're focused on the form that on the substance they did discuss human rights in a manner of a friendly nations respecting each other sovereignty what would you say to those who claim that they detect administration has been a bit blinded by this and to drive campaign and overcommitted police and army resources to counter the drug problem at the expense of other security challenges which. could have the situation we describe discussed previously in mitt romney well we care about the filipino we care about the philippines and we know that we would have would open up the day that we were a narco state if we don't do this so we don't really care that much about the

people who has the luxury to provide solutions that didn't work or were given the chance to solve the problem and didn't in order to problem so any country with an existential trap is always criticise that they focus too much on that trip but precisely why you call it the next a standstill trip it's a threat to your existence so if we don't believe that if we didn't if the president didn't put that focus will wake up one day that the all of five minutes in the philippines have the problems with drugs with violence and narco state that we've already seen generals we've seen the politicians we've seen hype officials we've seen billions millions thousands of passes in drugs we've saw a cache of cash and drugs in mirali so i think we prove our point that it is a real danger to us and if other people want to ignore it if other n.g.o.s want to politicize it that's their problem but we'll deal with the real problem secretary unfortunately we have to leave it there i really appreciate your time very to shape

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the us is hit by too high school shootings in a day with ten killed by a student in texas and another person dead in georgia. russian former spy is set against group out is released from the hospital in the u.k. ten weeks after he was poisoned by a nerve agent so his whereabouts up and being revealed. and investigations in cuba start analyzing a flight recorder from a passenger plane that crashed shortly after takeoff in atlanta killing more than one hundred people. the latest on these stories head to our home coming up a former israeli foreign minister is the guest on going underground and if you're watching in the u.k. and ireland sputnik looks at turkey's difficult relationship with the rest of

nature. i'm afshin rattansi we're going underground in the shadow of washington threats to tomorrow's critical elections in the nation with the largest known on sustainable energy reserves in the world venezuela coming up in the show with amnesty international slamming israel for willful killing in a week with thousands were killed or wounded by the self-proclaimed jewish state we talked to the former head of israel's foreign ministry who blames britain for sponsoring apartheid and the art of the iran deal was off touring in foreign minister java it's a reef mitsui you foreign ministers to discuss u.s. violation of international law we speak during you know if there's something. about

painting over public perceptions of his country glassware played out by the violinist allegedly forcibly removed by u.k. armed police peeping julian is on the arbitrary detention in london's ecuadorian embassy all this and more coming up in today's going underground but first let's go straight to our top story in a week which is the. nearly three thousand wounded and over sixty men women or children dead media in nato nations has already fallen relatively silent about the killing of palestinians by british armed israeli troops even mainstream media though had to pay attention to what happened on the seventieth anniversary of the creation of the state of israel. if we do one but. myself. and my lord.

kill. thousands injured on the deadliest day in gaza years winning condemnation around the world for its actions one of the top diplomats from israel's number one ally the usa though had this to say no country in this chamber would act with more restraint then israel and the u.s.a.'s top diplomat at the un did not even want to hear any evidence to the contrary she walked out on the un security council as poland introduced the permanent observer of palestine to the united nations riyad months or tuesday's emergency meeting on gaza i now give to flow to the permanent observer. of the outside of our state of palestine. well one of israel's former diplomats joins me now from jerusalem where in violation of u.n. security council resolution four seventy eight the united states moved its embassy to dr alan diehl is the israeli foreign ministry's former director general and

served as israel's ambassador to south africa ambassador thanks for coming on going underground so who is to blame for the atrocities on the world's television screens this week it's questions should be related to the whole. is one hundred years old to doing. israelis all the palestinians. this is a question that nobody can answer it's a conflict that is going on for for a century and this unfortunate event on the fourteenth of may that with terrible illogic climbing of this conflict it's a result or a terrible situation in gaza terrible human carrying crisis in the decision of the israeli. security of thirty's to shoot with live ammunition

it anyone trying to cross the border into israeli territory so this is an outcome of very crunchy on going one plague. i don't think i can put the finger on one side it's terrible situation that we all have to seriously relate to in the try to steal the british labor party's labor friends of israel in germany corwin's party the blairite said how mass is to blame for its provocation that was echoed by the british foreign office they are to blame for maybe two thousand eight hundred injured and upwards of sixty two people killed i think this is the position of peace when the united states i didn't see is such a british state and maybe friends of israel and most of the world. treated the israeli shooting with lighted munition very seriously and there were

a lot of statements deploring also the behavior of these were young. so this was a class that was probably possibly organized by hamas and possibly a result of that there of. consensus in the gun. you know obviously the result of israeli determination to shoot it with live ammunition egypt and saudi arabia have been relatively silent and the united states and israel say that live ammunition had to be used because the protesters were using guns and explosives yes this is a side that is close to the americans to leisurely government there was another site we saw. by calling it some sort of a quark or an expanding these were any of us know in south africa also cause he

told us that the several countries in europe very few. vessel called he's way a mass of those to their ministries. there was a mixed weeks three action the world most of the of especially europe and the united states see the hamas is it their organisation and blow that hamas is doing it but the assumption is an outcome of sixty two people keep a all in one big whining crying to reach the fence and maybe growth that bullet into his brain is is tragic and should be groovy and i hope it will never happening in the last eighteen months seems president try out a was voted case into their white house if there really is a total paralysis international crisis including in europe and in

this scene was completely left to the americans you can even hear problems senior europeans that the israeli palestinian conflict is kind of an american prerogative and durkin's an interest of the let the elderly in this is creating a situation that the united states that these are supporting israel in these early polls in. it's still only procreate major country important country in the all that peace is getting all in situation it's the as a result of we the two states idea that easing fit into the national consensus is a position is look the holy see all of the countries subtle position in this is fading away. the is regularly fading away into we are getting left here with a word state by national and state in the news and nightmare for winnie's ways

britain also is intervening it is giving aid to the palestinians and selling sniper rifles to the israeli defense forces what do you think of what britain has been saying i should say the foreign office says there is they don't know alastair but says he doesn't know whether any of those sixty two people men women and children any of them were killed with british weapons and a lot so which weapons were used but i can feel for me is someone who supports the idea of two states and would like to see israel and palestine eating in the future peacefully next to each other the british position is very disappointing i thought it could be more courageous especially because of the british history in the region because the british government knows this and how one sided is the american position and the position is probably leading to the destruction of the two states

idea that britain is supporting so i thought brittle it who and its government recognize in palestine is a state if you remember in october two thousand and fourteen the british parliament with little. well me and jury of both cult one hundred seventy four against full ask the british government to recognize palestine and their bridges government didn't do it i think if the british government will recognize palestine it when it will really see the idea that two states again because britain will not stay the only one and by the way only sweden in western europe did in the last few years is great there and maybe ireland will join in regular style.