cable news it was n.b.c. and then the new york times i mean what hatchet jobs they do again you can disagree with his approach and and some of the things he has to say i very much appreciate what he's doing and but the again we're going to have to employ the line or terminology here the old mainstream and put it that way legacy media they really just go after that guy and n.b.c. and the new york times i have i have this strong feeling they never watched one of his videos ok. seriously but i mean that i'm getting into this ideological bend here i mean because someone like jordan peterson is really going against the current that's in the new or the old mainstream media and they really go after him i don't know if you know what i'm talking about go ahead robert. well one of the things that that i find really questionable with even a big paper like the new york times is and i look at this is probably budgetary a budgetary problem is do they have the money to do fact checking anymore are they

not care i've written to the times about some eroni of stories that they've had where it just seems to me nobody does due diligence anymore when i wrote from time incorporated for the various books if i were when i wrote something i had an editor researcher calling me asking me ok tell me what you have in your notes and if it wasn't sufficient it wasn't going in the story and now we seem to write more about our feelings than we do about our facts ok i mean and certainly on telling them a good one i think who did an issue let me go to line allow last forty seconds a lot of journalists so-called journalists write about their mistakes later ok go ahead lionel forty seconds before we go to the break perfect example of this recently there was a study about the president allegedly calling allegedly calling immigrants or dreamers animals when in fact he referred to m s thirteen now because the media the media today this is archaic ossified media is a runaway train that you have to feed constantly by virtue of the fact that you can

correct yourself that breaking news can be corrected they jumped with this idea that he referred to immigrants as being animals now before anybody knew it it was immediately repeated replicated and then later on with the idea that we can correct it later on when you had a deadline when somebody had to yell stop the presses it meant something in this rob says there is no fact testing. ok if you're a p.d. a.p. was the first to admit that they had made a mistake gentlemen i'm going to go to a break here after that short break we'll continue our discussion on media we're staying with our team.

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welcome back to cross like we're all things considered i'm peter were discussing media wars. this go back to ron in los angeles. i'm like many other people could be very critical on how president. handles himself or the rhetorical e how we deals with the press i think all that's fair game most importantly it should be about policy but it seems to me that the the the legacy media the cable stations again with the exception of fox to some extent they're actually imitating him if he can break all the rules then why can't we. but at the end of the day the media loses because you know trump isn't held he doesn't say i'm a man of virtue he's not a man of great values ok the american people that voted for him didn't vote for

a choir boy but it seems to me that the the the legacy media they feel that they have the right to imitate donald trump and i think that is a huge disservice to the public go ahead ron it is a huge disservice to the public yes however i would offer the alternative i don't think the media is losing i think the american people are losing. i think that i think that the media at the end of the day really likes trump they appreciate the fact that he gives them click bait that he gives them the soundbites you know because he doesn't talk very diplomatically and they kind of help him get elected in the first place so they run with these little tidbits and you know it's not just the media working alone i would argue that the politicians really help out especially because the democratic party they have really no platform and they have no ideas so all they can really do is say hey we're not trump and trump's really

bad and here's another soundbite and it's very very frustrating especially as somebody on the left so what i like to do is when people were complaining about the latest for instance with the the animal statement i read we read tweet them all and i'd be like you know what if you were tired you wouldn't have to listen to him anymore just a suggestion. oh robby it seems like it's his virtues signaling that's what i get what i get from the the the old mainstream media the legacy media it's really does you know who's virtuous and all of course the president united states has no virtue so the rest of us how that i can think that to a journalism was supposed to be about ok and i think that's one of the things that is really pulling everything down i mean there's so many important issues here of you know the. the economy is booming i don't really think it's booming it's booming for the for the wealthy and for the fame and financially well to do and when there's a need to be much more a microscope on that and also the the animals issue of immigration has to be talked

about in a civil way it's something that everyone wants but no it's virtues signaling you know let's look after the caravan in mexico ok for me this is this is a dead end that they're playing they're doing a complete disservice to the public go ahead robert. well it's incumbent upon the president and his white house to function the way it's supposed to i don't believe we even have a new communications director i understand how the white house works and a communications director is supposed to liaise with the other people on the comms team at the white house who then in turn work with their press counterparts in the press pool i don't think anything goes on there in terms of the white house conveying the white house and the president's policies and so there and you have something there is just a stagnation and an inertia so the press will since around twiddling their thumbs going what are we going to do today and there's got to be a dynamic there really don't you think on the white house but don't you think rob

that a lot of people who are in the press pool there they don't really want they don't see this white house is being legitimate i mean they don't they don't talk to their their counterparts in the white house as equals because they look down upon them ok i mean you exceed in their faces a at the white house press gatherings you can see the contempt they have ok and i know you're laughing but i think it's really true i mean they are birch us ok that's but that's not what politics is really all about and that's what and that's not what people voted for go ahead like if you know i could did this may be rather self aggrandizing in a weird way but let me just say what we're doing right now first of all the amount of time than any of us have had to discuss an idea could not exist in the old mainstream media could not by virtue of time number two there are no advertisers here so there's nobody limiting what we say number three none of us gets any kind

of a list from the producer ahead of time to try to ferret out ferret exactly what we're going to say to limit what we're going to say to contain domestic this is with all that's going on with russian media and foreign agents the most free form and i know it's. i think being gratuitous but if the old mainstream media tried that if somebody if any of the particular hacks you want to mention said you know what today we're going to try something i'm going to have somebody who is really good perhaps combative and i'm not going to tell the party line but i'm going to really provide a chance for people to come forward and not exclude them through filtration it might help but they can't because they are hollywood and entertainment is become almost the entertainment section of the military industrial complex a deep state depending on whatever you want to call it this is an agenda and now with obama going to netflix signing a development deal do you have any idea what that means this is apparatchik agit

prop nonsense and people see through it and they're going to rebalance they don't understand the they've lost the war and the older times are done with it and people are going to rebound ok but you know let's be fair here i mean on a program no no no no no i will be i mean in time out i'm very critical of like c.n.n. and miss n.b.c. but ron let's talk you know your progressive let's talk about fox here i mean i like i like tucker carlson very much i'm very open about that but then i watch hannity and i just think that's just you know the white house that's a white house press operation i mean and it's transparently an extension of the white house and i think that that is not journalism i know sean hannity is a partisan person he wears his stripes on his on his sleeves there but at the same time you get that you get to have really there's real collusion there what do you think ron well i think hyper partisanship and kind of like that type of punditry is just a quick paycheck and it's always kind of been in style who's the number one host

right now rachel maddow rachel maddow is just the corporates left i mean because she's she's not left at all but she's kind of the corporate media version of the left response to a xan hannity shanahan and he was number one when obama was in office. well she's number one now because trumps in office and it's giving people the these tribal little groups to get into and that's how we go about our business and i would also say you know the white house is in total disarray yes that's true there's more turnover than a third party pyramid scheme yes that's true however the media is no better at all i mean when the media was told to turn off their cameras there was not one person in that room in that press briefing room that had the courage to say no i'm not turning off my camera because this is my job my employer is very powerful and i'm not turning my camera off what are you going to do arrest me that story all go

viral go ahead they all said yes sir or madam i'll turn my camera off that's not journalism that's access journalism that cinco fance it's nonsense and it's garbage and it's got to stop a full disclaimer here i am going to be submitting a pilot to barack obama's netflix company because i am in show business and with them i don't have to worry about them changing anything ok well side me up if you get the gig ok i'll certainly watch it there you know rob you know i've often thought of looking at the the white house briefings is that these people have already written their article and they're just looking for a sound bite to throw in the they really stood. for the powers that be and again you know when i look at the quality in the aptitude of the questions that are being asked i just wonder. is this to see you know is this for what was said to we had classes for people that there was a dance placement for smart people and then what was the other classes for the slow

people don't remember the derm right now but i mean it's people are challenged intellectually that mean they really are challenge intellectually and if you ask a bad question you're going to get a bad answer hasn't anyone figured that out yet go ahead rub. one of the things that i find really idiotic that nobody is consistently calling out is watch a press conference with sarah huckabee sanders i'm not a fan of hers but a reporter will raise their hand and say so isn't it true the president a lot trump is lying about blah blah blah he's going to say no and then they go oh my god she's lying through what what are they expected to say somehow you've compelled me to admit that my boss was deceiving you when the american people the whole world god and everybody else is in every universe it's just it's like it's like the idiotic sportscaster that's like did you feel bad when you struck out

and lost the world series yet what do you think and i was happy because i had money bet on the game i'm going to disney world to. call it out and i'm doing it right now ok lionel one of the things that we're absolutely running out of time and i want to make sure you have plenty of time to finish up but one of the things that trump lives you know you know well first of all politicians lie all the time and my sense is and it's not to defend the president because he said things that i'm very strongly disagree with but you know he's saying something he's saying something that somebody disagrees with doesn't mean it's a lie and i don't understand this true but people are constantly going after that because if you use that level of analysis then i'm right in the made in the mainstream media all the networks that they're lying all the time as well so if it's the same standard go ahead aisle but that's like going to a spelling bee and somebody gets it wrong and you say you're lying and saying not you shouted. but here's the thing is happening right now this is the mark here right now it's clear what you're doing is when somebody goes back what it is

a chapter comes back and asks as ron says perhaps the most stupid question in the history of mankind they don't say hey jake that was the most stupid question in the history of mankind he said you see how many lights you got this is reaching this is gone viral but it's stupid no said. thing is stupid our numbers are up because that's what it is this is a front what they do is what something they can refer to later because what's happened is they don't realize it they are a truck this is beyond c d this is like to let go of the they're living in the past and they don't know what the star has burned out millions of years ago they're the last ones to be told ok when i'm going to give you the last ten seconds because you're so eloquent give us a word we need to look up in the bizarre us go ahead. the best one is mockingbird media and mockingbird when he referred to operation mockingbird and it refers to what is still in effect in effect an attempt by the cia to basically to have repeated as you alluded to and not reporters that simple rip and that's mashed

rocky heaters we're going to end on that no repeaters here we're not repeaters on cross not many thanks so my guess the new york and in los angeles and thanks to our viewers for of you watching us here to see you next time remember obstacles. as you see it on the only egypt. i know you study it in vain but that will not allow them to just tell you what i thought i'd like on you and. by then i got

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full of leftists. in some american cities the police have built themselves cling to read between the people who walk on the streets of the united states who are at risk from the very people who are supposed to protect that people are no more afraid of the police than of us or in the us. you can see something happening this is like i don't want to call the cops let them have been a resident call the cops in those young black men lose their lives chasing the with their fingers on the trigger you never know better safe than sorry i don't know that someone else is going to pull a gun so yeah unfortunately around around here we end up on our guns a lot still from such precautions true.

donald trump casts doubt on next month's planned meeting with north korea's kim jong un saying you'd be historic talks may be delayed or may not take place at all . but we are working on something and you know there's a chance that it will work out there's a chance it's a very substantial chance it will work out. protests against government reforms turned violent in paris with demonstrators clashing with police and there are a number of injured. and the british government has sharply criticized for its response to the ground fell fire almost a year on from the tragedy the public inquiry is only now getting underway and

looking into why seventy two people lost their lives in the london tower block. but i don't think that doing enough of that awful lot of government haven't done enough not nearly enough no that's not even close i can see. broadcasting live direct from our studios in moscow this is our international thomas certainly glad to have you with us now donald trump says his much anticipated summit with north korea on the twelfth of june might not happen he made that comment during a meeting with the south korean president in the u.s. capital both washington and pyongyang have suggested that they may not be willing to hold talks must certain conditions are met samir khan has more. well according to trump the summit could take place or it might not even take place but the president has never really been one hundred percent sure we are working on

something and you know there's a chance that it'll work out there's a chance it's a very substantial chance that it won't work out that doesn't mean it won't work out over a period of time but it may not work out for june twelfth i think it will be very successful but as i always say who knows what's going to happen you know i often say who knows who knows but you know it all works maybe if everything can be scuttled everything can be settled but speaking of mixed messages on one hand a special coin is being produced just ahead of the summit depicting the two leaders meeting and all smiles then there's trouble guaranteeing him safety and promising that north korea will be a rich country he will be safe he will be happy his country will be rich but then on the other hand trumps threatening the libya scenario the model if you look at that model with gadhafi that was a total decimation we went in there to beat him now that model would take place if

we don't make a deal most likely but let's quickly remind ourselves what happened in libya in two thousand and three gadhafi renounced his nuclear program but despite that he was overthrown in a nato led campaign years later so not a fairy tale ending for gadhafi but it's not just rhetoric that could be jeopardizing diplomacy there's also joint military drills being held between the u.s. and south korea on north korea's doorstep but thankfully some are questioning the need to provoke especially considering the historic meeting that took place last month between the north and south and this also comes at a very special time just as the u.s. is going back on its word to adhere to the iran deal pulling out of it entirely so i'm sure that north korea is taking all of these factors into consideration before agreeing to deal with the u.s. . we heard from alice said denham mcadams and kevin martin about how the development will affect the recent attempt well it is interesting to see how trump and this is top advisor seem to be at all as with each other i don't know if it's

a management style is to create chaos and see if some order comes from it or what in fact may be his style problem is that washington confuses the idea of negotiation with the idea of surrender the meeting for trump and him in singapore should have been the beginning of a dialogue of a process instead john bolton others have laid down the law here's what you've got to do i think bolton said tell us where we should send our planes to pick up your stuff and take it away i mean if i would north korea particularly watching it how the u.s. tore up the iran agreement if you had any mind at all you would be very very skeptical it's very important that people understand that president moon of south korea is really the most important president here not trump i know trump thinks it's always all about him but president moon of south korea i believe is the one who's really in the driver's seat here and they are playing a very important role both in terms of south north korea relations but also bringing the united states along it is possible that north and south korea could continue to build their relations there are

a lot of economic issues that they could work on diplomatic issues rediff occasion of families that have been separated. meanwhile north korea is gearing up to dismantle a nuclear test site located in the remote northeast it is the country's only known nuclear site there have been six tests there since two thousand and six or two years one of the few news channels that has been invited to witness the destruction of the city and he was done off is en route. i would took us about two hours to get here from beijing that's where we got our visas that's where we got our plane tickets as we took a regular charter flights into north korea not many people on board only twenty journalists or so were invited many more wanted to come but well couldn't right now we're in the city over once and it's a south eastern city in north korea and it is a resort site the test site that is set to be dismantled it is lays some six

hundred kilometers away from here and we will be taking an eleven hour train to get there and then we will be writing for four more hours by car and hiking for another hour but we're being told that the spectacle is well worth it the whole site will be razed to the ground technical buildings reduced to rubble tunnels in the mountains also blown up right now we don't know when this strip or when this is going to happen exactly but definitely in the upcoming days. it's turning into a spring of discontent in france with fresh protests in paris against president maron's social and economic reforms turning violent devinsky earlier witness to how a peaceful rally descended in a matter of minutes the crowd is swelling here in paris this is just one of the around a hundred and thirty demonstrations taking place at cross fronts. they've

been joined by all of the main line unions in votes which represented by the point seven million people across the country as you can see the police here they're forming a lines and barry is trying to stop some people from moving forward towards those crowds but really in the last ten or fifteen minutes or so this protest which was entirely peaceful has a chime for the worst. to. cool to see in the middle of clashes between the police and the protesters the police have come and pushed the protesters back you might be able to see the crowds about one hundred fifty meters away from us. and that massive confrontations between the police and protesters would start to go up with the protests this smashing up shops as you might have seen that smashing up bus stops the police responded to gas and we got caught up in that yes.

we've also seen some demonstrate is who appeared to have been injured there was one man just sitting down a few moments ago with a bloody poor ring down his heads the police are in the middle of this action now where they're all skinny as she moved away was. that. was you know i knew names getting involved to represent about five point seven million workers here in france but again that idea of voicing their concerns on the streets has been hijacked once more by the violence that we've seen from the small number of protesters. almost a year on from the grunfeld fire in london in which seventy two people died a public inquiry has officially been monch that opened with emotional testimony

from victims' families and survivors one who spoke of how his son was stillborn just hours after the tragedy and please be aware that you might find some of the following video upsetting to watch. hoping it's all about treat. she's made the hardest the serial. killer for strength in kosovo be.

more survivors will give their accounts over the next week or so the probe will then look into wider issues like the government's response time and preventative actions dear tutor has been to meet locals who say that they're frustrated at how little has changed it's almost been a year since the devastating blaze and what's left of the grenfell tower can be seen here behind the scaffolding it's a harrowing reminder of a tragedy that has left many questions unanswered. there are over a hundred it's how long.