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for the c event he is a supporter of israeli settlements in palestinian territory and in the past he's also called on the u.s. state department to stop calling the west bank israeli occupied territory and this incident comes at a very unfortunate time it follows the inauguration of the new us embassy in jerusalem from its original base of tel aviv and as you well know that sparked a barrage of both international and regional criticism. google may get flak from many quarters but if there's one thing about the company that people had moderate it was their corporate motto don't be evil but that slogan has not been largely removed from the company's code of conduct with the internet behemoths new dealings appearing to have rendered particular principle obsolete. don't be evil the folks at google certainly thought so for the first eighteen years until that is they quietly removed probably the most famous phrase in their corporate philosophy
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and now it's a bit more vague striving for the highest standards of ethical business conduct and we all know how ethical business can be here's one example of google's interpretation it signed a pentagon contract in march to help the department of defense create artificial intelligence tools for drones to attack and identify ground targets all without human operators being involved me project maven technology is helping human intelligence analysts fine objects on video feeds from drones you know it's kind of like a facebook photo when you upload a photo and it is facebook able to identify which of your friends are in that photo project made in the same thing google staff and ai academics were shocked with thousands signing a petition protesting the firm's militarisation. we believe that google should not be in the business of war therefore we asked that project may even be cancelled and
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that google enforced a clear policy sitting that neither google nor is contractors every word fear technology google's not the only tech to get a pentagon paycheck i.b.m. and the computer graphics firm and video are just two which have worked on military projects still google balsa see nothing out of the ordinary with project maven. we have long worked with government agencies to provide technology solutions the specific project is a pilot with the department of defense the technology flags images for human review and it's for non-offensive uses only google claims it's a i won't be used to kill but it doesn't workers who resigned over the contract aren't convinced the ethical question now is whether it's the weapon or the brains behind it which does. the killing don't be evil i always thought that it really meant don't be evil yet because of course as google becomes a very powerful corporation on one of the most powerful in the world and plays
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a such an important role in the development of new technology inevitably they're going to be drawn into some very big and evil things like or like autonomous weapons and there's a lot of pressure on the high technology sector in the u.s. right now to contribute to the military and i think that many of the google employees don't agree with that and it's interesting to see that struggle be playing out we have asked to go to comment on the changes and we'll update you on when we get a response. germany's strict gun license laws are under the microscope germany's strict gun license laws are under the microscope to reveal just how many far right radicals are in possession of the illegal firearms or in this when we return.
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i've been saying the numbers mean something they matter the u.s. has over one trillion dollars and. more than ten white collar crimes happen each day. eighty five percent of global wealth you long for the bridge eight point six percent market saw thirty percent year some with four hundred to five hundred three per second per second and bitcoin rose to twenty thousand dollars. china's building two point one billion dollars ai industrial park but don't let the numbers overwhelm. the only number you need to remember is one one business show you can't afford to miss the one and only. we've all gotten used to it the media hates trump and the president returns the favor in kind how is this mutually charged hate fest changed media and journalism
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does some corporate liberal media report the news anymore and is journalists a big profession in the service of partisanship. fifteen minutes into the program you're back with r t international more than two thoughts and far right extremists in germany are in legal possession of at least one firearm according to the government's own figures the green party say's leaders are sweeping the problem under the carpet reporting from berlin this hour. here in germany almost two thousand people identified as far right extremists have a permit to possess a firearm that's according to the government's own statistics twelve hundred of that number described themselves as reich citizens and since november of twenty sixteen around four hundred fifty of them have had their firearms licenses taken off them by the state but he was right citizens and dangerous right citizen is
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a catch all term for a loosely affiliated bunch who claim that the federal republic of germany is illegitimate and say that the pre-war constitution remains in effect that's the same system that allowed out hitler to take power well today's reich citizen groups come in several shapes and sizes but almost all of them have some link to either neo nazi groups or far right ideology. the historical revisionism forms an ideological link that connects various right wing extremist currents and right wing extremists among right citizens use those connections to cause confusion to provoke authorities and to create a social platform for right wing ideology it's estimated that there's around eighteen thousand of these right citizens in germany and some are allegedly preparing for a day when they'll rise up and take their country back but these aren't just hollow
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empty threats eighteen months ago a policeman in bavaria was killed during a shootout between officers and a member of one of the sorites citizens' groups the number of these people is significantly significantly increased acts of violence towards the public officials policemen has increased in number if the numbers go on to increase if these fever really used in brick hears them selves for a tosing in resisting publicness or reduced then indeed it's a challenge for the state opposition politicians have accused the government of trying to sweep the extent of germany's problem with far right violence under the rug first the federal government explains the right wing terrorist groups can form spontaneously and have a strong digital network but then many of their actions are not counted as right wing terror offenses the impression is that the federal government consciously accepts blind spots in the recent past berlin hasn't pulled away you from
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publishing intelligence findings that showed as many as seven hundred radical islamists could be in the country and a capable of preparing a terrorist attack but it does seem that they're less forthcoming when that threat is potentially posed from elsewhere we now are facing the end of less being intellectual dominance and culture in politically gemini and under system bred a lot of growing right think populism of course right in the radicals right wing extremists. protected the german state district do their bit with all the power and strength it has germany has very strict gun control laws thankfully gun deaths are a rare occurrence here but perhaps one way to keep it that way would be to not allow people who the government considers a threat to the public to have access to firearms peter all of. your just a final word on this from the german government which sais that although the threat
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posed by right wing extremists is reportedly increasing the overall threat level from such groups remains relatively low. now are changing gears in just over three weeks time assured us that the greatest footballing show on earth gets under way right here nations have been busy naming their players for the world cup twenty eight while our own former player peter schmeichel explores the host cities ready to welcome them this time around he's in russia as a western most point kaliningrad. if you. ask. the meaning grad the russian enclave speaks to him between the rainy cold and the baltic sea
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a minister. in munich. it was thirty five thousand screaming fans for the four game set up played none of them is of course the much anticipated match between the belgian what else is going on around this place but i'm peter schmeichel and i'm here to find out. i'm a bunch in need one of the future ambassadors for convening grand she's a five time limply gold medalist and then nineteen time world champion in singing my streaming name is no time. since he's asked me to meet him very unique place. so you asked me to meet you can you tell me about this because this is their chair on the end. of the unique play.
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this is shipping city. not from canada. as you might well you know roster is a massive country in terms of eleven time zones from east to west is just unbelievable kaliningrad his side of the baltic sea and unticketed that you to be so today i decided to go fishing absolutely off a ship and i'm here in the baltic sea i've got to leave and got out of the back and be straight for dead it's going to take us two three days to get there so. the problem is not to do that but what we are doing now we are trying to catch my lunch and hopefully some style that it's going to be. salmon this size.
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not very big. puts out its own flies sometimes with a few. you know. some old salt. most of the. knowledge. not about hall at all peterson michael media in the time of trump is in the
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crosstalk spotlight next year watching r t international. apply for many clubs over the years so i know the game and so i dived. the ball isn't only about what happens on the pitch to the final school it's about the passion from the fans it's the age of the super manager killian erroneous and spending two to twenty million one player. it's an experience like nothing else not to because i want to share what i think of what i know about the beautiful guy but great so one more chance with. the base this minute.
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to. follow and welcome across or considered. we've all gotten used to it the media and the president returns the favor how is this mutually charged hate fest changed media and journalism the corporate liberal media report the news anymore and is journalism today a fake profession in the service of partisanship. ross
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talking media wars i'm joined by my guest rob the new york he is a political pundit and journalist contributing to the huffington post also in new york we have lionel he is a legal analyst and news decoder at lionel media dot com and in los angeles very early in the morning we have ron paul cohn he is a comedian a frequent guest on the jimmy door show and the young turks as well as host of his own streaming show get your news on with ron i love how that rhymes are a gentle and cross like rules and if that can jump in anytime you want to i always appreciate it live and let me go to you first in new york just very broadly speaking how is the media changed in the age of trump because in the age of trump trump doesn't change it seems go ahead lionel in new york ok first of all let's talk about news media versus the media here's how it's changed we often use the term mainstream media to define people like a.b.c. n.b.c. and m s d n c fake news c.n.n.
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that's not mainstream anymore what's mainstream is this what's mainstream right now is podcast again you tube and other platforms that is dead that is a star that burned out millions of years ago yet the light still hits us so when we say mainstream the first thing that happened was the recalibration of the term mainstream because what's old is doing what's new is now that's a very good point but the problem is that the legacy media still have a huge impact on the population i would say because people believe in the conspiracies that a lot of the former i'm going to go with your terminology former mainstream media peddle ron reflected on that in no way yeah you know i i agree with lionel said i think the term mainstream media is something we have to try to shy away from i like to simply say corporate media all the time because definitional and that's what it is it is a corporate media. by very high for profit entities but as
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far as did the media. in the trump era i would say the corporate media that we're referring to has not changed in the trump era i think it's the same formula that they've been going by for a long time now they like hyper partisanship one way or the other they like sensationalism they like to have a little fun soundbites and take bits to to inflate for as long as they can and trump gives them plenty of those you know michele wolf at the white house correspondents dinner nailed it she said you guys love trump just didn't made it because he's giving them what they want and that's kind of all they care about and as far as news and information in our country not only is it a huge disservice but as lionel pointed out it is a sinking titanic well ok we use that logic there robin i just want a quick diversion here than the entire foreign policy elite in the united states much loved lot of near putin keeps the good word. then flowers and champaign at the
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end of the year you know but rob if we agree with lionel said in that in los angeles but there is one thing that is changing is that their ratings or plummeting in this is maybe the only thing that about this old legacy media that's really true and on top of it they want their revenge ok you have like facebook teaming up with the atlantic council they want to claw it back and it's going to get nasty people are being to monetize people being shunned and throttled ok so the old the old media is up to the same habits of trying to control the media space go ahead rob in new york. well we have to realize that media is a is evolving i'll tell you one thing that hasn't changed my father was a newspaper man i grew up in and around the business i remember as a youngster that there was a conservative advertisement against the new york times with a picture of fidel castro they put on a bus that said i got my job through the new york times still makes me laugh out
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loud so things haven't changed that much but another thing that has changed a monster i worked on and off for time incorporated since nineteen eighty three and for one period for fifteen years straight there was a publishing behemoth a colossus that no longer even exists in the name was literally pulled off the building and there was no time publication in the time in life building i don't even know if think all the time unlike the like so the media is evolving in ways that i don't think we can even predict lidl may have a word for it we're going to need the thor's afterwards unless we get a translator but it's happening at a pace that that i may not see in my lifetime i don't want to make a prediction do i like words going you know can i stop it no is it just part of change unfortunately yes hopefully one day it will be for the better lionel jump in go ahead peter and let me give an example this past week a new yorker we just had the upfront this is an annual event where everybody used
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to be it used to be the biggest thing there was this is what all the stars came into town and spoke to the advertisers and the affiliates and it was like number of the many academy awards it is now shrunk it is now minimized to nothing let me see what my day is every day we normally look at my wife and i look at our our kind of media e-mails and what you will see is you will see for example c.b.s. which has a show at night and the biggest p.r. arm that will spread through social media the idea that last night. it was this monumental event where coal bearer whoever trashed or attacked the president we live now in a click bait economy let me tell you what also happened recently rosanne rosanna completely changed things because bob iger who is very very smart realizes that he owes of a new sherry duty to his shareholders and what america wants believe it or not and this will kill the mainstream or lame stream or ted baxter media what they don't
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understand is that the american actual viewer is not somebody in the left wing right wing bubble or swamp it's somebody who recognizes the value of let's say a rose and another's so while they don't realize just like i'm telling you again they think that they live in the world of rachel maddow that c.n.n. that that people reflect their ideas it's not true it's the opposite ok but ron i mean you do have a prevalence where you know we can always talk about the exception of fox when it comes to cable and they certainly make money off of their click bait but they're not practicing journalism anymore and i mean we can talk about the the the infrastructure the business model but the profession itself i mean i watch the cable news because i have to because they're my job but i don't see journalism being practiced at all i mean and on top of it people expressing opinions without really much knowledge i mean it's kind of a lot of dumb people saying dumb things that are very cliche and some of these
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issues are really very important go ahead. well you know what peter this is a this is an odd double edged sword for me because the corporate media in the united states does bother me however if they ever got significantly better i might be out of a job sure i get to exist i get to exist in the capacity that i do because they they are failing so hard but i do see journalism practiced however the practices i see here often. negative types of practices the employing propaganda techniques word associations and stuff like that recently on the show were for the jimmy door show c.n.n. smeared us and then used a very very typical propaganda technique and the smear they associated us with other with other types of outlets that was it was not in accurate association at
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all but they did that it's an intentional thing when you do that it's a certain type of grouping and of course it's a wide wide net so is there some are there some diamonds in the rough shore you know you've got to look for it it's not on page one quote unquote you got to dig for it but it is there but as a whole they're not talking about the things that reflect with the average americans at all i mean there's harvard studies dedicated to that stuff where they spend about seventy five percent of the time talking about russia or something like that that's an important issue to about six percent of the population say percent so it's kind of they're all done to the point and they're on the east coast ok that's it and that's in washington d.c. here you know let me go let me go to rob here i mean i think all of you are familiar with i certainly know my audience is jordan peterson i think is a very interesting case where i've seen cable news it was n.b.c.
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and then the new york times i mean what how much it jobs they do again you can disagree with his approach and in some of the things he has to say i very much appreciate what he's doing and but the again we're going to have to employ the lionel terminology here the old mainstream and put it that way legacy media they really just go after that guy in n.b.c. and the new york times i have i have this strong feeling they never watched one of his videos ok. seriously but i mean that i'm getting into this ideological bend here i mean because someone like jordan peterson is really going against the current that's in the new or the old mainstream media and they really go after him i don't know if you know what i'm talking about go ahead rob. well one of the things that that i find really questionable with even a big paper like the new york times is and i look at this is probably budgetary problems a budgetary problem is do they have the money to do fact checking anymore are they
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not care i've written to the times about some erroneous stories that they've had where it just seems to me nobody does due diligence anymore when i wrote from time incorporated for the various books if i were what i wrote something i had an editor researcher calling me asking me ok tell me what you have in your notes and if it wasn't sufficient it wasn't going in the story and now we seem to write more about our feelings than we do about our facts ok i mean and certainly on telling them a good one i think it would go to the issue let me go to line allow last forty seconds a lot of journalists so-called journalists write about their mistakes later ok go ahead lionel forty seconds before we go to the break a perfect example this recently there was a study about the president allegedly calling allegedly calling immigrants or dreamers animals when in fact he referred to m s thirteen now because the media the media today this is archaic ossified media is a runaway train that you have to feed constantly by virtue of the fact that you can
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correct yourself that breaking news can be corrected they jumped with this idea that he referred to immigrants as being animals now before anybody knew it it was immediately repeated replicated and then later on with the idea that we can correct it later on when you had a deadline when somebody had to yell stop the presses it meant something in this rap says there is no fact testing. ok it was a.p. the a.p. was the first to admit that they had been a mistake gentlemen i'm going to go to a break here after that short break we'll continue our discussion on media we're staying with our team. thanks.

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