say percent. there it's kind of there i've done get the point and they're on the east coast ok that's it and that's in washington d.c. here. let me go let me go to rob here i mean i think all of you are familiar with i certainly know my audience is jordan peterson i think is a very interesting case where i've seen cable news it was n.b.c. and then the new york times i mean what hatchet jobs they do again you can disagree with his approach and and some of the things he has to say i very much appreciate what he's doing and but the again we're going to have to employ the lion or terminology here the old mainstream and put it that way legacy media they really just go after that guy and n.b.c. and the new york times i have i have this strong feeling they never watched one of his videos ok. seriously but i mean that i'm getting into this ideological bent here i mean because someone like jordan peterson is really going against the current that's in the new or the old mainstream media and they really go after him

i don't know if you know what i'm talking about go ahead rob. well one of the things that that i find really questionable with even a big paper like the new york times is and i look at this is probably budgetary problems a budgetary problem is do they have the money to do fact checking anymore or do they not care i've written to the times about some eroni of stories that they've had where it just seems to me nobody does due diligence anymore when i wrote from time incorporated for the various books if i were when i wrote something i had an editor researcher calling me asking me ok tell me what you have in your notes and if it wasn't sufficient it wasn't going in the story and now we seem to write more about our feelings than we do about our facts ok i mean and certainly on telling them a good one i think it would go to the issue let me go to line allow last forty seconds a lot of journalists local journalists write about their mistakes later ok go ahead

lionel forty seconds before we go to the break a perfect example of this recently there was a study about the president allegedly calling allegedly calling immigrants or dreamers animals when in fact he referred to m s thirteen now because the mean the media today this is archaic ossified media is a runaway train that you have to feed constantly by virtue of the fact that you can correct yourself that breaking news can be correct they jumped with this idea that he referred to immigrants as being animals now before anybody knew it it was immediately repeated replicated and then later on with the idea that we can correct it later on when you had a deadline when somebody had to yell stop the presses it meant something in this rob says there is no fact testing. ok if it was a.p. the a.p. was the first to admit that they had been a mistake gentlemen i'm going to go to a break here after that short break we'll continue our discussion on media we're staying with our team.

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welcome back to cross talk we're all things considered i'm peter lavelle to remind you we're discussing media wars. ok let's go back to ron in los angeles. i'm like many other people could be very critical on how president. handles himself or the rhetorical e how we deal with the press i think all that's fair game most importantly it should be about policy but it seems to me that the the the legacy media the cable stations again with the exception of fox to some extent they're actually imitating him if he can break all the rules then why can't we but at the end of the day the media loses because you know trump isn't held he doesn't say i'm a man of virtue that he's not a man of great values ok the american people that voted for him didn't vote for a choir boy but it seems to me that the the the legacy media they feel that they

have the right to imitate donald trump and i think that is a huge disservice to the public go ahead ron it is a huge disservice to the public yes however i would offer the alternative i don't think the media is losing i think the american people are losing. i think that i think that the media at the end of the day really likes trump they appreciate the fact that he gives them click bait that he gives them the soundbites you know because he doesn't talk very diplomatically and they kind of help him get elected in the first place so they run with these little tidbits and you know it's not just the media working alone i would argue that the politicians really help out especially because the democratic party they have really no platform and they have no ideas so all they can really do is say hey we're not trump and trump's really bad and here's another soundbite and it's very very frustrating especially as

somebody on the left so what i like to do is there is one piece. or complaining about the latest for instance with the the animal statement i read we read tweet them all and i'd be like you know what if you were tired you wouldn't have to listen to him anymore just a suggestion. a good point oh robbie it seems like it's his virtues signaling that's what i get what i get from the the old mainstream media the legacy media it's really does he know who's virtuous and all of course the president united states has no virtue so the rest of us have it i can think that to a journalism was supposed to be about ok and i think that's one of the things that is really pulling everything down i mean there's so many important issues here you know the economy is booming i don't really think it's booming it's booming for the for the wealthy and for the finance financially well to do and when there's a need to be much more a microscope on that and also the the animals issue of immigration has to be talked

about in a civil way it's something that everyone wants but no it's virtuous signalling you know let's look after the caravan in mexico ok for me this is this is a dead end that they're playing they're doing a complete disservice to the public go ahead bob. well it's incumbent upon the president and his white house to function the way it's supposed to i don't believe we even have a new communications director i understand how the white house works and a communications director is supposed to liaise with the other people on the comms team at the white house who then in turn work with their press counterparts in the press pool i don't think anything goes on there in terms of the white house conveying the white house and the president's policies and so there and you have something there is just a stagnation and an inertia so the press pool sits around twiddling their thumbs going what are we going to do today and there's got to be a dynamic there and i don't you think on the white house but don't you think rob that a lot of people who are in the press pool there maybe they don't really want they

don't see this white house as being legitimate i mean they don't they don't talk to their their counterparts in the white house as equals because they look down upon them ok i mean you exceed in their faces a at the white house press gatherings you can see the contempt they have ok and i know you're laughing but i think it's really true i mean they are birch us ok that's but that's not what politics is really all about and that's what and that's not what people voted for go ahead like if you know if i could did this maybe read their self aggrandizing in a weird way but let me just say what we're doing right now first of all the amount of time than any of us have had to discuss an idea could not exist in the old mainstream media could not by by virtue of time number two there are no advertisers here so there's nobody limiting what we say number three none of us gets any kind of a list from the producer ahead of time to try to ferret out ferret exactly what we're

going to say to limit what we're going to say to contain domestic this is with all that's going on with russian media and foreign agents the most free form and i know . i think being gratuitous but if the old mainstream media tried that if somebody if any of the particular hacks you want to mention said you know what today we're going to try this at me i'm going to have somebody who's really good perhaps combative and i'm not going to tell the party line but i'm going to really provide a chance for people to come forward and not exclude them through filtration it might help but they can't because they are hollywood and entertainment is become almost the entertainment section of the military industrial complex a deep state depending on whatever you want to call it this is an agenda and now with obama going to netflix signing a development deal do you have any idea what that means this is apparatchik agit prop nonsense and people see through it and they're going to rebound they don't

understand the they've lost the war and the older times are done with it and people are going to rebound ok but you know let's be fair here i mean on a program no no no no no i will be i mean in time out i'm very critical of like c.n.n. and miss n.b.c. but. you know you're a progressive let's talk about fox here i mean i like i like tucker carlson very much i'm very open about that but then i watch hannity and i just think that's just you know the white house that's a white house press operation i mean and it's transparently an extension of the white house and i think that that is not journalism i know sean hannity is a partisan person he wears his stripes on his on his sleeves there but at the same time you get that you get the feeling there is real collusion there what do you think ron well i think hyper partisanship and kind of like that type of punditry is just a quick paycheck and it's always kind of been in style who's the number one host right now rachel maddow rachel maddow is just the corporates left i mean because

she's she's not left at all but she's kind of the corporate media version of the left response to a xan hannity shanahan and he was number one when obama was in office. she's number one now because trumps in office and it's giving people the these tribal little groups to get into and that's how we go about our business and i would also say you know the white house is in total disarray yes that's true there's more turnover than a third party pyramid scheme yes that's true however the media is no better at all i mean when the media was told to turn off their cameras there was not one person in that room in that press briefing room that had the courage to say no i'm not turning off my camera because this is my job my employer is very powerful and i'm not turning my camera off what are you going to do arrest me that story or go viral go ahead they all said yes sir or madam i'll turn my camera off that's not

journalism that's access journalism that cinco fance it's nonsense and it's garbage and it's got to stop a full disclaimer here i am going to be submitting a pilot to barack obama's netflix company because i am in show business and with them i don't have to worry about them changing anything ok well side me up if you get the gig ok i'll certainly watch it there you know rob you know i've often thought of looking at the the white house briefings is that these people have already written their article and they're just looking for a soundbite to throw in the they really stood. there for is for the powers that be and again you know when i look at the quality in the aptitude of the questions that are being asked i just wonder. is this to see you know is this for what it was that two we had the classes for people that there was a dance placement for smart people and then what was the other classes for the slow people don't remember the derm right now but i mean it's these people are challenge

did to lecture early they mean they really are challenge intellectually and if you ask a bad question you're going to get a bad answer hasn't anyone figured that out yet go ahead. one of the things that i find really idiotic that nobody is consistently calling out is watch a press conference with sarah huckabee sanders i'm not a fan of hers but a reporter will raise their hand and say so isn't it true the president a lot trump is lying about blah blah blah he's going to say no and then they go oh my god she's alarmed through what i what are they expected to say so i mean how you have compelled me to admit. something that you haven't the american people the whole world god and everybody else is in every universe it's just it's like it's like the idiotic sportscaster that's like did you feel bad when you struck out and lost the world series what do you have and i was happy because i had money bet

on the game i'm going to disney world to. call it out and i'm doing it right now ok lionel one of the things that we're absolutely running out of time and i want to make sure you have plenty of time to finish up but one of the things that trump lives you know you know well first of all politicians lie all the time and my senses and it's not to defend the president because he said things that i'm very strongly disagree with but you know he's saying something saying something that somebody disagrees with this would mean it's a lie and i don't understand this troop that people are constantly going after that because if you use that level of analysis then i'm right then the maids in the mainstream media all the networks that they're lying all the time as well so if it's the same standard go ahead aisle with i going to a spelling bee and somebody gets it wrong and you say you're lying it's a not you shouted. but here's the thing is happening right now this is the marker right now it's clear what you're doing is when somebody goes back when it's a tapper comes back and asks as ron says perhaps the most stupid question in the

history of mankind they don't say hey jake that was the most stupid question in the history of mankind he said you see how many lights you got this is reaching this is gone viral but it's stupid no said. thing is stupid our numbers are up because that's what it is this is a front what they do is what something they can refer to later because what's happened is they don't realize it they are a truck this is beyond c d this is like to lead but the they're living in the past and they don't know what the star has burned out millions of years ago they're the last ones to be told ok line i'm going to give you the last ten seconds because you're so eloquent give us a word we need to look up in the bizarre us go ahead. the best one is mockingbird media and mockingbird many refer to operation mockingbird anybody first to what is still in effect in effect an attempt by the cia to basically to have repeated as you alluded to and not reporters that rip and rocky peter is going to end on that

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i. the woman poisoned in the u.k. alongside her double agent father gives her first media interview since the incident saying a life's been turned upside down and that she wants to return to russia. and that two nights north korea gears up to close its only nuclear site as part of a bargain with the u.s. we've been given rare access and our correspondent reports back on route. as you can see behind me we're being greeted like celebrities here those who go to north korea. the u.s. ambassador to israel controversially poses with an altered photo of jerusalem with one of the most sacred muslim sites removed and replaced by

a jewish place of worship of course a lot of first we'll tell you about it and germany it's that close to two thousand far right extremist there may be in legal possession of a firearm. this is an international hello from me kevin i just turned eleven in the evening now on this wednesday night and first in this half hour we begin with developments from the u.k. tonight where yulia screw polars appeared in the media for the. first time since she was poisoned along with her father the former russian double agent sergei script they were found unconscious on that park bench in the english city of souls brain wilcher on march the fourth more details from our london correspondent and it is. now in this particular media appearance she does give

a statement to reuters news agency of an undisclosed location in london so her whereabouts are being kept under wraps and she appears to make a brief statement in russian which then she provides in written form in both russian and english to waiters and in the statement among other things she says that she is going to eventually be returning to her homeland of russia but not quite yet as reasonable a bit as a child to come to terms with the devastating changes thrust upon me both physically and emotionally i take one day at a time and want to help care for my dad to his full recovery in the longer term i hope to return home to my country well paul importantly had also said that her recovery had been slow and extremely painful and that she for now will not be turning to the services of the russian embassy again as a reminder of this has been something that russian authorities had offered over and over again to the script palls any kind of cooperation or being able to get access

to them which according to russia they should have been able to do given the conventions that exist on matters on this issue but there's not much else that she did say she only made that very brief statement and then did not answer any questions on camera this is definitely quite a development since this became the first media appearance that yulia script has made ever since that poisoning took place on march fourth when this whole saga unraveled created creating a massive route between the u.k. and russia and of course this was the first time we're seeing a video of. her father was also currently out of the hospital so now the next step we should be expecting is some kind of statements or information or appearance that he could possibly be making next. will tell you straight about it russia's foreign ministry look to reassure. determined to get in touch with her and

of those since the poison a turk. we want u.s. crew partner now there wasn't a day that the russian foreign ministry in the russian embassy in london didn't try to contact her the main goal is to ensure she's not being kept against her well there it wasn't another person posing as her to get firsthand information about her condition and her father's. other news tonight north korea is gearing up to close its nuclear test site in the country's remote northeast have been six nuclear bomb tests there since two thousand and six which occurred inside the big mountain notes the world's last officially active nuclear test site so a lot at stake here of course north korea's described how the site is proposed to be dismantled they say they're going to be korea controlled explosions to try to collapse in those access tunnels and the result they hope in the entrance points being blocked as well after that then they say the above ground facilities will be destroyed some pictures have come out check this out some changes it seems by experts on satellite images taken in april and then earlier this month things seem

a bit different buildings appear to be demolished appear appearing with a railway line as well that seems to disappeared in one of the picture well out he goes down off is among a group of international journalists who settle on an arduous journey to say the least to see this nuclear facility shut. so worker who on a train someone with a very strong one to the nuclear thank you don't even know the exact you know the nation as to where we go we don't even name the face and so that phrase itself we're in the four o'clock means we have compartments for two and four in that we've noted that all when there was are such local blind ducks sharks or so we come from anywhere but going there in all of the trade picking out for what he's saying this seems journalist currently on board the train have got an eleven hour trip in total with all the windows covered foliage ration of the journey they're given strict instructions not to open the blinds then to get to the remote mountain area crews

will spend several hours traveling by bus and then find another hour on foot to the site itself before boarding the train igor sentences report documenting his journey from china to north korea's. beijing international airport can see behind me we're being greeted like celebrities those who go to north korea we've been here for the past couple of days and. have been amassed in the chinese capital because that's where we. are where we got our tickets and now we will be proceeding to check in to our flights to the windows we're waiting for the. signing off for hopefully greeting you from north korea itself next time so this is for your flights we will be taking to get inside north korea thing is we aren't even exactly sure as to where exactly we're headed

because according to our media to documents we're going to the southern port city of one sound but according to our boarding passes we're headed to the north korean capital pyongyang so i guess in order option but to find out on board the plane. and see you know we're going to pyongyang what you want to. ok monsanto thank you. for the roughly twenty journalists here on this plane and so on as we're going to one sound i just want to give me one glimpse of what's going on on board would be given out press releases like this one for example the pyongyang time it's mostly about politics but also features pieces like recipes for this right since monday morning kate and also we've been given and this very very cold colorful. magazine which features everything from the latest one as to what's been going like told you the life of the engine on the supreme leader of north korea but also wonder if you

just run around so young and like to pieces like the ones for example b. b b. so you walk out of any airports what's the first thing you expect to see it's a bustling crowd of people pushing and shoving it's a taxi drivers offering their often overpriced services well check this out nothing of this sort here it's just an empty parking lot and three buses that will take us to the city. while. we're saying. this is a huge story.

you started this. me tell me what you following her on twitter he's going to continue to post details and photos from that reclusive country when every can you don't see so much but from the users those interest then find out what kind of food you might expect in north korea and the they will look around those local hotels as well that look too bad for them to see their. america's ambassador to israel has come in for criticism after he was seen posing with a rather controversial gift they would friedman was presented with a photograph of one of the most sacred places in jerusalem but the image it seems a bit altered to show the jewish third term pull on the site where the islamic the dome of the rock is currently situated the third term police have biblical reference to a new place of worship to replace an ancient one that's been destroyed the u.s. embassies asked for an apology saying the envoy was unaware that he was being given

a doctored picture region still of course reeling from those deadly protests just last week against the relocation of the embassy to jerusalem is our middle east correspondent paula sleep. the photograph immediately sparked fierce criticism from the muslim world saberi cut here's the secretary general of the palestine liberation organization the p.l.o. there's a friedman expressed to quote rude and hypocritical behavior you then have admittedly who is an arab israeli law may care and comes from the israeli arab dominated political alliance called the joint let's and he has responded to the photographs by saying that this madman wants to bring peace a good thing you didn't put the embassy there at the same time we hearing that the american ambassador has apologized freidman was not the word of the image thrust in front of him when the false it was true. he was deeply disappointed that anyone would take advantage of his visits.