our headline stories this hour the russian defense ministry criticizes the latest findings from the russian investigators looking into the. seventeen tragedy four years ago on social media pictures instead of witness it's. also present from councils what was supposed to be. next month with north korea. going ahead with this month playing it's only nuclear testing facility today our correspondent was near the site as the underground network was destroyed. also coming up in the program all of the year's biggest business events is underway in russia as global industry leaders on political

elites gather for this and petersburg international economic forum. eleven am in rio nine pm in jakarta and five in the evening right here in moscow this thursday may the twenty fourth i mean only a welcome to our international the teen investigating malaysia earline flight m h seventeen which was done over eastern ukraine in twenty fourteen has updated the media on its findings admitting they coincide with those of a blogger let's get more now from our correspondent danielle hawkins down what's come out of today's date what are we learning. interesting thing this is the first time that the dutch safety board has actually spoken of concrete and exact blame here of course back in two thousand. the fifty that safety board according to their

investigation confirmed that the mh seventeen airliner was hit by a book missile that theory was also confirmed in september twenty sixth in by the joint investigation team a team made up of international aviation experts the russian side of course has denied this consistently including that twenty sixteen report that was denied by. the presidential spokesman for lack of evidence this statement from the ministry of defense we have in response the board has said that the position remains clear that no anti-aircraft weaponry no anti-aircraft vehicles off the type allegedly used in this downing crossed the russian border and that the russian side can prove this through providing radar data showing that no launches took place from the eastern side and indeed witness statements as well many of which the ministry of defense has said were given both the russian and international media and said that any laws

if it did take place took place from the western controlled side of the donbass which at the time of course and still is a very much active war zone this is what mr defense had to say we are concerned that the dutch investigation decided to base their investigation on images from social media that were edited what's more a number of the images that we used at the briefing were prepared by the ukrainian security services and were shown on a number of occasions by belling cats we want to draw to everyone's attention that the dutch investigators have ignored witness accounts many eyewitnesses saw the tragedy themselves they are not images from social media they are real people who gave their testimonies on record to the european and american media. now as we said earlier of course the previous investigations by the dutch safety board by the j.i.t. focused very much on reconstructing what happened to the plane on its journey from

to kuala lumpur how it was brought down what equipment was used not so much on blame attribution precisely and now the team has said they do have persons of interest ranging from several dozen to hundreds that they could be now looking into this is what the jyoti had to say on the new developments. that we realize that the belling get in this to give already reached the same conclusions and publish them. as the joint investigation team have our own independent investigation and the conclusions we draw from it must be based on legal and convincing evidence which will stand in a courtroom. no matter the evidence of course are cited by the russian ministry of defense in this report was based on organizations such as bell and cat organization effectively of citizen journalism using open source data found on the internet photos publicly available from social media etc a lot of that evidence was taken

into account both by the dutch safety board investigation and the j.i.t. as well was according to the russian move through the fence at least what from what they're saying much of their evidence was either discounted or not given as you care and attention in coming to those conclusions let's take a closer look at what evidence exactly was used and where it came from from that organization. it hagan's who runs the website blink out the laid off admin worker who made a name for himself by analyzing weapons used in the syrian conflict never been to syria. doesn't speak what are there and he conducts his presidency set from the concept of his honor and his begins himself admits he has no experience in the field before the arab spring and you know more about weapons than the average exploits owner had no knowledge beyond what i learned from arnold schwarzenegger and run though. his tools of choice

for uncovering global conspiracies you tube and google billboards in the area kind of look the same but it wasn't really you know this isn't enough to say this is the same there was you can see the path from the grass but again it's not a great match so we know the russians light. and the media loves it eliot higgins or dish blogger in analyzing the pictures of the wreckage thank you for joining the program but some are questioning his methods like the developer of the photo analysis program which palin can't use to claim moscow faked satellite images and image forensics experts aren't fans either what he's doing is nothing more than reading tea leaves every level analysis is a method used by hobbyists but fellow obsessives are ecstatic about scrutinizing the link out analysis for his claim he's showing photos of two different book missile systems in an attempt to prove the weapon came from russia they say the one pictured in russia is a newer model because it features

a recent modification and for the claim that no ukrainian books were in the area at the time of the crash well fellow bloggers dug up screenshots from ukrainian t.v. apparently showing a book missile system complete with radar in the area just a few days before the tragedy. well we have been in touch with bellingen counts which stated that they russian government and media have resorted to conspiracy theories false claims and fake evidence to cover up the downing of m.h. seventeen blink out then went on to praise its own probe there are accurate. when historian and east europe expert martin mccauley believes the m eight seventeen investigation is seriously flawed and after four years has not reached any conclusive results. two factors which are very important one is the investigators did not have access to the site where the book.

so it was to have missiles fired they haven't had access to the site and secondly. the investigators haven't released all the information that they possess so therefore the holding back information therefore we can say is if you like four hundred liter raised properly done three hundred meters three hundred fifty meters but we still have the final lap of the half that good don't know what the answer to the question is who fired the missile and why was it we don't know that yet. one more breaking news coming in this hour donald trump has just sold his op coming meeting with north korea's kim jong scheduled for june in singapore trump explained his decision in a letter saying it was because of tremendous anger and open hostility from north korea that the summit is off at the same time the u.s.

president said he still expects to meet with kim at some point over the past number of days washington has been back and forth with hense on whether or not the meeting would go ahead. we are working on something and you know there's a chance that it'll work out there's a chance it's a very substantial chance that it won't work out that doesn't mean it won't work out over a period of time but it may not work out for june twelfth i think it will be very successful but as i always say who knows what's going to happen you know i often say who knows who knows a lot of good things going to happen a lot of bad things going to happen. maybe if you want a lot of things change everything can be scuttled everything can be scuttled. well if north korea were translating not they've been plowing ahead with the conditions for the meeting in the past number of hours up destroyed their only nuclear test facility our correspondent down off was the site among the very few international

journalists allowed to witness it happening. we've just visited the unity nuclear test site which is frankly noble we saw three hours of full ton of their useful nuclear testing one of them the north tunnel chile was used for the latest fall even nuclear test the other two were you and you have koreans told us that they had been ready to conduct nuclear tests there any movement for them building up the tubes it's inside more of the real way of sure we know they're ready to make real concessions now the spectacle itself was quite impressive the explosions looks like small eruptions. from under the ground of course we journalists couldn't really estimates and to how much damage would we today go to pyongyang and the nuclear program as a whole but north korea insists that they've made this step the now well now they

will expect something and will tell now we are right now we are on the way back to one son and so as soon as possible we will be finding more reports. moving on business and political elites are gathering in russia's northern count little there in st petersburg for one of the main events on the business calendar the international economic forum fifteen thousand participants from seventy two countries including iran two hundred and fifty c.e.o.'s will be there over the coming days and will make sure you don't miss a thing. well the v i p's heading there include the french president and he's right just disembarking his flight as you can see these are live pictures now in st petersburg

at the french president his wife just being great that there are local delegates and officials. makes his way i suppose to the evening session of the form it will be continuing for the next two days until sunday night a lot of discussions ahead with vladimir putin. and also joining him there will be the japanese prime minister. and china's vice president they will be joined by some of the world's top business leaders on the heads of international economic organizations are to go is the forum for us. the form is getting more as stablished no matter what it's almost two hundred fifty c.e.o.'s that is an impressive number with the way things might be looking now when it comes to russia and the rest of the world and the v.i.p.'s names on

a global scale include no surprise lot of our putin besides this the french president and manual macron also the prime minister of japan the vice president of china and the head of the international monetary fund by the way a lot of our putin has already met the second most important politician in china and christine legarde as well but why are so many journalists here right now why have they moved away from the form towards the shore of the baltic sea the reason for that is because emmanuel micron is on the way to vladimir putin's residence in st petersburg the very same man who just a short while ago a hell donald trump by the hand and you remember all the awkward moments that made everyone talk about some sort of romance between the american president and the french president and in just a few hours we will find out whether

a fraction of that sort of chemistry whether we'll see that between mr putin and mr mccraw and think of it emanuel macron is coming to russia for the first time when really on an international chess board france and russia are definitely on the different sides of that chess board but just like and the case of angle markel and germany by the way these two leaders met last friday paris and moscow do why they are on the same page when it comes to the iranian nuclear deal so very soon we'll find out whether that will help them build any more small bridges but surely the story of personal interactions between emanuel macron and flat amar putin isn't as long as that of angola merkel and the russian president but it is still worth checking out. so from big business to global investors here's what some of the delegates of the same petersburg forum helping telling us about the u.s.

china trade war and how they see the economic climate in russia. i think china is very much on track i think the russian economy is on the man and us economy actually the strong so in the short term the growth is actually above the trend of girls which means by twenty twenty we could see a risk of recession in the united states trade war between us china would result in a lose lose situation which means the policy makers on both sides are likely to be rational that's what we have seen in past two weeks but having said that i think the trade the tensions between china united states are unlikely to go away really just for one reason the u.s. economy right now is facing the risk of overheating at the same time the fiscal

policy with tax cuts could actually result in a larger trade deficit between the united states and china. i know that europeans want it many people in the world think the sanctions are absurd including me i hope they're dropped i don't think it will happen any time soon will america withdraw the sanctions probably not will the europeans say we're going to do it anyway probably so the germans don't see any reason for it italians many people do not see any reason for this action and they will point out i don't know of any sanctions in history that have had a major effect yes they are facts on individuals and some companies and sectors but historically speaking i know of no better had a major effect. than most if you look at russia and its economic figures you can see that during the past ten to twenty years russia has been developing rapidly we've seen how russia continues to develop despite the sanctions and i say that

based on the company's own figures and experience the local market has changed look at what happened after the first sanctions in the. food and drinks industry it's reacted really and continue to grow. well we will continue checking in live from the forum over the next number of days it goes on until sunday evening hearing from delegates and getting updates from our news team in st petersburg. was. labeled as i don't touch i don't date on watch from both sides of the british political divide after the break while the u.k.'s heise of lords is in a huge fight for its very survival.

politicians to do something. they put themselves on the line they did accept it or reject it. so when you want to be president and should. want to press. you to go on to be press this is what the three of them will be good. i'm interested always in the water. i played for many clubs over the years so i know the game and so i got. the ball isn't only about what happens on the pitch for the final school it's about the passion from the families it's the age of the superman to kill the narrowness and spending to get to the twenty million. it's an experience like nothing else i want

to do because i want to share what i think what i know about the beautiful guy great so one more chance with. the face it's minute. nineteen minutes into the program welcome back german fascist groups have issued a galley book for potential rioters they want to encourage people to disrupt the gathering of the right wing alternative for germany party in bavaria next month taking a closer look at the guide this hour peter all over. alternative for germany will be holding their party conference in the beautiful but varied city of output this summer however until fascist groups of the turbaned to disrupt it going as far as to publish took guide for those wishing to turn up and demonstrate that contains

more than a few tips on how to start a riot we suggest tracking and exploiting the f.t.'s weak points across germany so that we can guarantee the necessary space for protests in all spoke it's a very detailed guided includes maps of where members will be staying the routes that they'll be taking in the best places to disrupt the event from and there's also a section that includes writing and life hacks everything the first time writer will need like how to block roads how to prepare paint to be hurled correctly but there's also some more unsavory instructions as well the best ways to burn tires to smash shop windows or to burn cars all without leaving any evidence that you were there or for that matter being able to be identified on security footage we wish you a lot of fun trying our instructions we showed the so-called right guy to a.f.p. spokesperson ronald glaser and asked him just how worrying it is to his members the

meth just clear we know where you all are being we're going to come for you this is some kind of disgusting kind of intimidation but even not capable you know with anybody in the party it's considering any extra security measures. will expert security measures. can be helpful but we did not have any party gathering any big party without a whole lot of security around the police and private security organizations so it would be different this time we also spoke to the left party and asked whether they endorsed this guy. if they thought the far left group anti far gone too far this time. it's left to the traditional. which say never good for sizzle and never again year fifty years of clearly anti human this.

bring for that racist statements for children t. or even work together of context to militaristic fascist groups so we all the human list falls as an actress and society have to stand together and. have to do resistance against the politics of the. police in oxburgh are preparing for what's being described as an unprecedented operation some two thousand officers will be drafted in including reinforcements from nearby areas and they may well be needed fighting between anti fire demonstrators and police has turned nasty in the past as i found out firsthand during the anti g twenty right and how last summer was. so.

i will actually read between the police and the demonstrators right now so we're going to try to get out of the way. i the police in hamburg were also warned ahead of time that something big was being planned there and with just over a month to go before the a half day conference on the thirtieth of june. to see if they can stop a similar situation unfolding there peter all of our r.t. . the british opposition leaders. his efforts to abolish the opera parliament the horse of lords is made up of heard or read a tree and partly appointed appears and is now under fire from both sides of the commons with the labor leader wanting a democratic opera horse on the government angry at the lords bragg's it struction

let's go live now to westminster to polly boy who's been following developments probably the lords really are getting both barrels right now. yeah and jeremy corbyn the labor leader he said that he's all for scrapping the house of lords his spoke spokespersons has said that the upper chamber of the british parliament is basically a take a listen to what he had to say it's absurd that we still have this undemocratic and the charisma in the twenty first century and when labor is elected we will carry through that pledge yes so jeremy corbyn you see that vowing that if elected he's saying that a labor government would abolish the house of lords entirely and in fact jeremy corbyn says he's now only going to appoint labor pay is if they agree to basically vote themselves out of a job if it ever came down to a vote but reforming britain's on the elected upper chamber is an idea that gets

floated every couple of years really there are those that say that the whole institution is inherently undemocratic some see the lords as a medley bunch where the last time they checked the average age is about sixty nine years old they get to claim expenses courtesy of the taxpayer of up to three hundred pounds a day and some say for not doing very much work but for the seven hundred years that it's been in existence the chamber of the house of lords has had its fashion era scandal sleep and silliness take a look. i'm. going to start to look. for my movie for the bareness margaret i believe claiming to be one of the only survivor i think in this house all those who gave good service the mission offer my sincere apologies to pound the statistics for my discourtesy in not being in my place to answer her

question on a very important matter at the beginning of questions and solution and not being in my place and therefore i should be off my resignation. what's interesting now is that the party in power head now the conservative party is also getting increasingly frustrated with the house of lords a hardline brags it is in particular because the lords keep rejecting key bragg's it legislation that the government here is trying to push through rather embarrassing to reason may's administration has suffered fifteen defeats in the house of lords over the past few weeks and whenever the lords reject legislation that politicians in the commons are trying to push through there is always talk of a constitutional crisis because they say the elected politicians are trying to

enact the will of the people whereas the on the elected laws are blocking those efforts or holding them up at least and there is on the other side of the argument argue well it's the job of the house of lords to hold politicians to account and to scrutinise the laws that they are trying to process but it's not just the labor leader who's getting frustrated you see that he's talking about changing the system there is in fact now also a politician sorry a petition to hold a referendum on abolishing the house of lords it's reached more than one hundred fifty thousand signatures now. meaning that the issue has to be debated in parliament on the eighteenth of june yeah be interesting to see what comes out about one poly live from london this hour thank you. may the twenty fourth is a day of cultural celebration in eastern europe all based their own country's use

of the cyrillic alphabet its inventor since but there's this thing this year after both gary and twitter users find themselves by after tweeting in their beloved language when they were deemed to be russian online true.

all right the french president is meeting his russian counterpart on the sidelines all of this petersburg economic forum this is the residence all of the russian president to be putin in the northern capital they are now meeting i believe we could almost listen in to possibly some of what's being spoken about if that is if bob is correct. we tried our best there with a microphone to hear abide and maybe hear some of their side of the of what was

going on there without a meeting but we will be keeping a close eye on all developments from there we're back with more news very shortly. you never know what's around the corner you never know what's in the pub you going to walk into excitement it's that not knowing that's where the adrenalin much comes from. and you can use a nice definition and the extremes will support. the violence is a pot and it's almost a schizophrenia country where you can do all these things and behave like badly. important people.