party basis on whether the government will honor its commitments to sustaining a life line of military orders and we talk to the general secretary of the ship those in unions who have galvanizing this cross party support to keep the government's feet to the ship building fire over the next couple of weeks we've been talking to the people who actually run yards across the british isles and to some of the workers who build the ships and ask them directly it's best to shipping going boldly to a new sunrise or still sliding towards an inevitable sunset but first salix with your tweets your messages and your e-mails. well first up is from chris who says great interview with the m.p. from ireland interesting insight and perspective i wouldn't put it out if i had taken a second to consider the impact on the island that i am testing this until garth he said did i see what i like doing with tory past tense when he was speaking to the professor on screen last week so this is what jill's talking about. and take

a look at this. sort of a disappointing joe i can't speak for the tory politicians but i just had a sore foot myself then from charlotte jean seaton who says the program covered the exhaust of lee the intractable problem of brakes and frictionless trading cross border i bought us proposing oman the three of cross border trade will be done from space by satellite container ship movement and pilots and then messages from john scarlet and c.l. and bob the only sensible solution as a united ireland and then what i would go for as a united independent ireland and then dependent scotland and then dependent wales along with england all members of the european union and finally from when federalism says professor jonathan tong says that all scotland and northern ireland voted overwhelmingly to the main and the u.k. government is completely disregarding this hell man the hell man that was

a great phrase of course len that means on their heads be it. and no to the first of our series of reports on the future of british shipbuilding. as a term of the nineteenth and twentieth centuries well over three quarters of what i'm shipping was built in the united kingdom know the great names of shipping harnden will come a little fagots in the shadows of either disappeared or much diminished. then the city was nationalized as british ship builders in one nine hundred seventy s. but this failed to the rest of the clain with the number of employees falling from eighty seven thousand to one hundred seventy seven to me a five thousand and ten years and although it was not until two thousand and thirteen that the final nail was put in that entity as a mending assets employees have long since been disbursed to the private sector some very militant ships are still being built most recently the two queen elizabeth class aircraft carriers the real concern that unless the government fully

adopts of john particles report on shipbuilding strategy it will not be enough to keep the industry on its current scale never mind the nest songs and visits by some john recently m.p.'s from across the political parties and across the shipyard constituencies put their concerns to the new ministerial team at the ministry of defense in britain is good. and many of the washington see trials in top being built and those being planned are testament to our naval heritage and the up to date skills of a super workforce right across the u.k. i hope this debate today is straight the new minister and his officials not that this plan is wrong per se but that we scrutiny we can make it more great cost more valuable to industry and to our armed forces. principly there are two areas i want to highlight in asking for a vision is this documents one in the procurement of the roll fleet auxiliary specials especially the new solid support ships and secondly to the configuration capabilities laws and realities of the proposed type thirty one

a frigate the house will probably not need reminding that we had more than sixty frigates and destroyers at the time of the falklands campaign and by the time that my cohort came into the house of commons nine hundred ninety seven that number had come down to thirty five forget some destroyers. of hundred wolf at one stage this was the biggest employer of men not only and the honorable telescopes in se but also my constancy and some thirty five thousand workers that were taken in one thousand companies hundred wilford for just the shots at and around every fourteen around fourteen years so that it continuously traded ships are built ships were repaired of pain the last to leave the queen's anabelle to the forty million until point at the start of twenty or three so the twenty two thousand ton ferry was the second of two vessels built for them in a ship the fancy hundred and wolf are teaming up with other companies such as

thomas and again on the other judgments are constantly at least belfast others to bed for a one point two five million contract and i believe that not only and they not only have the ability but also have the dry under the siren to deliver the past that they can be given remote in a place the national shipyard strategy when it was announced was and i'm going to be fearful and i think in a moderate moment of remarks was a presentation of dog's breakfast with the former secretary of state or six occasions in the chamber claim that there was a cricket faction the cloud. at the same time as he's on his feet in the chamber claiming there was a flag faction quite g.m.b. officials were taking scottish journalists around the proposed site for the frigate faction which is rebel in a rush so there is no factory and a quite an led to a presentational disaster for the government. can i join their speech or my support for those already spoken that the there is no need for the royal family

excel or ships to greater international competition and the reason that they will break out the shit applied for. us to be nice to get some of us is because they believe it will be sent to nice that's at everton they going to be the case now marshaling as parliament to troops is even wardle the general secretary of the confederation of shipbuilding and engineering unions welcome to the alex salmond show you own property here you've assembled a pretty powerful cross party alliance are you going to be successful in holding the government to its commitments on this floor for us well i think the answer to that really is in the balance that the alliance that you referred to is really one based on a blindingly obvious argument which in turn flows from saddam parkas national shipbuilding strategy report which argues that military ships could and should people in the u.k. and that could be a platform for investment in the yards and open a whole world of opportunities i mean that's why everybody's standing behind it

just absolutely clearly common sense but the government says they're committed to the park of the port but there's a lot of concern that the order for support ships seems to be going out to international competition while it's always you know it's what's in the fine print the government says it's committed but we've got a situation where tight twenty six we know will be built on the clyde type thirty one which is a light frigate is open for competition at the moment and there may be a foreign design in all of that there's a two alliances of yards in the u.k. that have bidding but it's not clear what the destination of the contract will be the big price is the fleet solid support ships three vessels of forty five thousand tonnes each that's equivalent to the two aircraft carriers that we've built if we could build those in the u.k. that would make a fundamental difference to the future of the show that is fascinating because in the aircraft carriers a massive pieces of brilliant engineer to be yours. saying these support ships that are there is a quick want to the. absolutely in turn into a niche

a float their equivalent but they're also complex ships they will be entering into military war zones they'll be supplying the carries with with engines and spare parts for the f. thirty five after on board i mean ition as well as all sorts of other supplies each ship will have a specific job it will be unique one off design these are not like commercial ships that bill in south korea every day of the week these are really specialised vessels and the fundamental thing is there was shipped still be armed they'll carry an ample it's helicopter carry parties marines that's not a commercial ship it's war ship so there's nothing to stop the government in terms of international law contracts from saying these are warships of the should be built in new york it well we produced a report last week in parliament which shows clearly that france germany italy spain all eat you can trees build similar ships they all have the mystic shipyards and you know what surprise surprise they built their ships in their shipyards the rules didn't stop them the government quite easily could declare these warships i

think is absolutely clearly the case and it's definitely defensible in the e.u. i don't want to come it's been so timid about this but they seem determined to put money to international competition so what's the connection between being a floor work for the and breaking into the market for commercial ships worldwide well one thing leads to the i mean one hundred years ago this country the united kingdom built half of the world's ships and this proud ship building heritage right across these islands we lost that because we didn't invest in modern technology modern techniques and particularly the far east i would say because if we had a steady pipeline of military work stretching out ten twenty years then that gives companies the ability to invest with confidence for the future we could build world class yards that would be able to compete compete in the in the commercial shipping market one thing leads to the other the moment we've got. it's like twenty six than it got to type thirty one in a gap so who knows what and the others can't survive and you can't invest as

a business owner so it's the drumbeat of military orders that creates the certainty that leads to investment in a world class facilities and what see the social and economic consequences of having a garden to need skilled labor force in these communities well one thing that we're waiting to see the reality of is a prosperity agenda which govern willingness and secretary of state has built in this is a new set just wait for the fed the new sectors like for defense as something he wants to see prosperity taken into account of in the way that the mit does its business no prosperity for me is simple if you build a ship in the u.k. then the workers pay tax they pay national insurance the company pays corporation tax and there's an immediate return to the treasury from employing people in in the u.k. that you wouldn't get if you built ships in south korea they would get that benefit but also you're able to recruit apprentices those people go out and buy houses and cars for ages there's a multiplier effect in the wider economy and let's not forget the ships could be

built with british steel our steel industry struggling in the international market the moment if we specified british steel for the ships built in the u.k. then that could make a massive difference not just in the shipbuilding communities but way beyond so in water from the perspective of the confederation of shipbuilding and engineering unions shipbuilding for the u.k. sunrise or sunset and the strip well i think the future of the industry is in the government's hands if they make the right decision classify fleet solid support ships as warships and guarantee a drumbeat of work then this will be the sunrays if they put them out to enter an international competition and they're built abroad i'm sorry to say i think it's the sunset will see yards closing recife could be the first to go. it want to thank you for. the drumbeat afford us but i can offer you philip you know like silence you the quick live very much for the loving cup well i'd like to drink and i say that to celebrate f.s.s. being built in this country thank you very much like you think you. would join us

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welcome back we've had a bit of thousands of members of parliament across the political parties i'm the shipbuilding unions about the government shipbuilding strategy this is what ministers of have the same reply in the house of commons to me terms as a john packers additional point it hinges on the strength of the partnership between governments and the sector it's about a collective ability not simply to improve productivity not simply to develop the path of the shuttle market wants to buy but to continue to develop the skills and the talent to keep the industry fighting on all cylinders. this was the question the prime minister was confronted with a couple of weeks but by dunn family and west faith m p douglas chapman a prime minister you will be aware of in my constituency we are pushing the finishing touches to our second aircraft the prince of wales but as we near the end of that contract over four hundred people in recife yard are no fish in redundancy with many more job losses in. the prime minister visit than famine and mostly to

explain to their side what forced the peace government intends to award a one billion per and ship building contract with these islands when we have the skills of the talent and the infrastructure to do when a great moment or so. years. and i say a little tension but what we are doing through our national shipbuilding strategy is focusing on giving the wrong neighbor the ships it needs while increasing economic growth across the country and investing in a more skilled workforce so we are encouraging a more competitive industry in shipbuilding and growing jobs across the country i think he may have been referring to the. future ships and support ships a little fleet talk syllabary being the curator international competition that's three ships they'll be built in the fleet solid support program they will be subject to international competition to secure the best possible value for money for the u.k.

taxpayer but what we are doing what we are doing through our national shipbuilding strategy is ensuring that we develop that ship building capability here in the u.k. in a way that we can encourage all u.k. shipyards with the necessary skills and expertise to continue to engage in that particular program and douglas chapman joins me know welcome to the alex salmond sure that's very much there but the prime minister about his joy there but she seemed to concede that the minister of defense will know putting out two white turned across the world a range of ship building contractors well it seems like there are a. you know when we look back to the ship building stance she was only last year you know what people who work in the ship building this industry the thought that the future was looking great or. for this latest and iseman we had contracts and they're going to international tender means that british job squashed jobs are being sucked shipyards and you know the future for these workers and we can pretty

but doesn't the prime minister have a point i mean the range of ships being put out to tender i'm not ships like the carriers which have been built to your constituency they're serviceable ships are required for the navy and isn't she right that public money and value for public money is the printed federation well i think the been a whole range of different studies done to make sure that when you're looking at ship building it's not just about the price of the cost of the ship you're building but it's the knock on benefits that the whole economy can benefit from you know i've got two hundred fifty people in recife who lost their jobs in the vendor another one hundred fifty who lost their jobs in the last month or so and there's more job losses in the pipeline that means that there's all these people who are not paying tax not being tax national insurance making their contribution to the economy and making a contribution to the national economy and it's actually pretty good money after by and if you're allowing these contracts to go west the these i also and when we

could be building on my the claim that and belfast well as i would want and resign so you can state see containing recife there is a huge naval dockyard that was has been refitting ships since the dreadnoughts in the first world war how many people are employed now that you can stay well that there's a core work force of roughly one thousand two hundred people working there as each county it was built then the work force is not required and the whole point the ship building starts just to make sure that we have the skills the capability. these infrastructure on a regular basis a steady drumbeat of orders a steady drumbeat of new ships being built so that you don't lose these skills after you've spent ages and the time and energy actually building that level a skill base up seifert in terms of its capacity in terms of the size of the dog this is probably the only place in these islands you could refit the queen elizabeth the second for example he comes back in for refit just

a few years tide but it won't be wrong with us sending often offer genuine president tom's men have a reef i think it would that be a great tragedy well we're going to i think comes back to the whole point about maintaining skill bases within the u.k. and retain interesting in that capability within you know you can them as well and you know scott was got a strong ship building legacy that it's been built up over many many years and we had better to refit the ships the best cost. other than other than resign do you think the mit ministers really. are on top of this issue do they understand the client for having a skill base and capacity to refit or build ships in the future well they certainly talk the talk but as we witness from the prime minister's response they're not walking the walk and i think that's the clear message that's coming through from the trade unions for example in the site and other shipyards across the country and

i just feel that the you know there's a big opportunity here it's just slipping through our fingers like mike sand and we need to do something about it i want to walk a single what the union saying to developing crisis well they're obviously concerned about the future you know they were given the shipbuilding strategy as a way forward as a positive way of looking at ship building in the future one of the few things this government has as might it cost party support on yet when it comes to actually delivering then there's huge gaps and. understanding of ministers we can best deliver for notice the ship building industry but live fence and security the nation politically and shipbuilding has always been a hot potato and i remember i've got the scars to prove it during the referendum campaign of scott on the twenty fourteen member being told scott became independent the be no military ships built in scotland because they'd all be building an english out of us be

a certain irony in the prime minister telling you that things about the international tend to support ships for example one of my colleagues just even saying they're just towards the end of. the the actually have read ours and armaments on them quite nicely make them ships of war if you like they're not just supply ships so again and on that front as well as been shown the the government you know the policy that the supposed to use in the people of scotland and twenty fourteen was just a load of nonsense and what we need to do is me issue that we hold the government to account and we try and protect as best we can the ship building industry that quite honestly the moment has been sealed in the never focused moment farther south and carriers in the in the second world war and i've taken my actually to the floating of the equivalent of the second and twenty fourteen and i was very

impressed because even that wasn't the official launch it was floating to the into the dock but the pride of the walkers it was evident for all to see walker from the cypress double a bit representatives from the other yobs who contributed so what does it mean to be a shipyard worker having built such a massive piece of engineering like the queen elizabeth the second well you even know that from your own experience with your dad you know that is asked a tremendous sense to played and you know a fight of completed one of the biggest. engineering jobs that this country's ever ever produced you know and then a few months later to be told that you know your services are no longer required when. in reality you've been told that the long term future for you for you in your job in your family and i think you know that that's really. an unbelievable position to put people in your peer to you know part on the bike and one one hand

and see well there's a p forty five or the other and you know that be devastating and i'm sure you're fine if any was the same as well phil felt the you know the sense of played in the fight to the it that produced one of the biggest ships on evey's ever be biggest role in the biz ever built and you know that that play would be felt right through the whole the whole family as well as the plastic very crisp of the second was actually the same size lengthwise as the indomitable that my dad which was also refit enciphered a much lighter because. it was much later in the queen elizabeth i've had many more men. did buy my dad said to one of the the admirals we met through looking for an experienced hand then it might be persuaded that the money was right about the generations of people in your constituency who have been part of this process

over over the years so it's a family of a generational thing as well as individual skills of individual workers lynsey so this i for example they were promised the on the nuclear submarine effects you know probably ten fifteen years ago and and the at that time because they didn't get that contract the whole community was devastated put themselves up by the bootstraps and thinking you know there's a strong future here and every member of the family be thinking you know i want to be an apprentice really proud of my dad i'm a mom who have been part of this process. and you know to to gain to be really weighed down in this way is kick in the teeth to the community the site will continue but at this moment tame the need a lot of help and loss and of course a babcock. who runs in the ones told me that if you try to build a facility like recife no which is basically built into the level for that you'd be

talking ten billion reduction costs would be a massive construction project which means of course it's a ten billion asset any minister who is who knows a budget strapped for cash in almost every aspect of the budget at the moment defense much at the moment you know you know be trying to find ten billion pounds to spend on a. yard but you know that i say already exists elsewhere in recife so why why build and make an investment of ten billion pounds when that money can be better spent on something that would be of value as a chaplain that's the local m.p. is a site going to win through i certainly hope so think we can put forward a real good campaign already working with their to do unions and other m.p.'s from other yards to make sure that ship building is secured everything that was on the ship building strategy we can build on and make sure the government understands how important is to make sure that we keep building in the lakes the science and govern

and scots and all the other yards of course you can chop and we wish you well not a cipher meter but a well made this is the alex salmond quick i don't have to tell you the drill you know whatever so you know one of us could go as far as say much lower you start insuring i just don't rent like you thank you. despite the decline of shipbuilding in the twentieth century the pull of the great yards in the shipbuilding communities exerted a great pull of the political and social life of the country it was from yaddo the hunger marches started which galvanized opinion against the depression of the one nine hundred thirty s. it was on the opera client that the work started with saw jimmy did lead has workmates a historic victory and with a twenty government of edward heath of course how did will cause it go to shit for years but the titanic exhibition has transformed visited attractions in northern ireland. we all would light celeb once again in a world where generations of highly skilled families well that pride in their communities and their country or ships and the clientele the nation and their whole

lives however is this the world we have lost accountability claim to the twenty first century as british ship building going to be confined to declining markets of complex military ships specialised and profitable but limited in scale or cannot break free once again to become a major player on the world stage of commercial shipping next week we talk to people in the industry they say they ship building could be the comeback kids of the twenty first century industry be sure to join us so from alex me and all of the team here at alex i'm in so we'll see you next week.

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