five years ago companies go public as a way to expand their be a viable corporation you have to meet certain criteria for being a bible corporation and then you are allowed to go public now there are no such criteria so if you're essentially burning through cash and going bankrupt or using a public marketplace to bail out a losing position. i am a staunch unethically much if i do business in the system it's in the feed industry in the one nine hundred ninety s. . the right time is taking that in the night and what does that have to do. that. almost two months. is

a chemical plant least khaliq. this is the worldwide legal service like the beer is. privately and runs a. possible temptation. to her future scientists proof that she. will on the human race to surface to free of g.m. and chrysler state which will even be able to cost the points of never send. welcome back the british labor party's deputy leader tom watson is demanding the u.k. government reverse a decision of a media regulation in the light of allegations from a former rupert murdoch sunday times worker well the. worker referred to in the

british house of commons was john ford and he joins me now john thanks for coming on going underground the government says justice is already been served by the inquiry catalyzed by the murdoch media hacking of phones of a dead schoolchild what do you make of the high court decision in the bus a few days to go ahead with some kind of legal challenge well not truly i'm delighted i think particularly this week especially following on from me because lake inquiry it's clear that press practice is still us that's a reference to the magister attacks yeah that we've been commemorating the dead indeed yes so showing that journalists practice is still out of control in journalism is a competitive business and journalists will compete with each other to get a line this situation needs a root and branch inquiry we were promised leveson one and leveson two

by lord leveson because he considered the. the job unfinished there are a number of areas that were to be looked at particularly the relations of the media and the police and so forth and it seems strangely convenient to a government which is struggling to survive to want to kill off something which is going to be painful for them what did you do at the sunday times i was a black a black or is a person who uses social ingress so i would ring people up spin them a story to illegally get information from them so i would work it was a journal step by step process generally work from an address at the lowest point from someone's gas account recovered. very least their ecstatic tree telephone number that was used as a security. following that i'd then strand find out whether or not there's

a direct debit and recover the bank details then move on whatever i could to with those details to open bank accounts mortgage is tax. i stole rubbish and went through the trash of ministers looking for. anything that might compromise them or their political standpoint or certainly when i was working for the sunday times i had a strong belief that i was working in the public interest exactly because i think you can surely see that journalists although i suppose you was going to say that you wanted journalist when you were doing that work there is a public interest defense of all the things you just said if say a minister had been involved in privatisation of a utility or a myriad other corruption investigations that are legitimately done in the public interest indeed indeed and this wasn't some of the work i did

particularly the work on terror identifying terrorist cells in the way was clearly in the public interest. and i have no ethical issue did the public service yes he i mean you you did this kind of thing against alistair campbell and tony blair and someone suggested that kind of surveillance. in the run up to the iraq war i think it was it was newt you were doing this it was slightly earlier but yes it was in the run up to the war you know he didn't think that many people in this country would see that is if he wanted to reveal details of the kind of economy with the truth then shown to us by the iraq inquiry of chilcote should've been worthwhile that there's legislation in place to govern. the use of. illegality should be. liking the dark arts but there are specific guidelines and

they don't include fishing expeditions and removing someone's. rubbish from outside their house is very clearly a fishing expedition and nothing more what happened to. the person who was telling you to go on those fishing expeditions then editor of drum with a row well what's interesting about john with is that following his performance and parenthesise performance at leveson he then went on to be promoted to the ship of the times the newspaper of record in the case so he got a promotion john whether it yet is and it has been one thousand nine hundred thirteen your name of course mentioned only once during the first leveson inquiry i mean he was already controversial he said that michael foot the then labor leader was a k.g.b. agent in these only to make an out of court settlement to root word of the not

supporting the labor party in those days what was it like to work for. i never met him i was always kept out of the what was called the plant i only ever entered the plant once operated as a free lunch so that there was credible bed let's see i only knew reports of him from people that i became very close to working with over the telephone but people are actually in the end when the whole day with him became close friends with who. more than twice referred to him is as a sociopath was it your interpretation that when you were hacking the abbey national account of gordon brown that rupert murdoch because a lot in the press these days about the attacks on the leader of the labor body to recall what was your interpretation that in effect what you were doing was trying to destroy the political chances of gordon brown with the benefit of hindsight it's clear that the there was

a political agenda to undermine gordon brown i should say that the government scientist david kelly who somewhat suggest tried his best to avert a war that killed or wounded or displaced tens of millions of people. i don't know if you've been quoted as having qualms about what happened to him did work on david kelly home address utilities and so forth and it was several days later that rufford famously turned up at the kelly's room residence i think it's on the record it was a great shock said the family. and curiously two days later he was found with his wrists slit and the inquiry seems suggest that he was incapable of cutting state with his. weak wrists a my theories about the david kelly. remain open i'm just

ashamed of thought at some level i may be complicit in in his death. joe ford thank you thank you very much. well from surveilling those who brought us the iraq war let's turn to attempts to alleviate that was catastrophic consequences through literally taking voltages advice to cultivate a garden i'm joined now by kerry perkins the director of operations and cultural anthropology at the lemon tree trust it's an organization that has put the world's worst refugee crisis center stage of the garden at this year's chilled sea flower show in london thanks for going to go tell me about the trust and how anyone who looks at the good show we see everything that it really seems to be well thank you so much for having me the garden at chelsea this year sponsored by the lemon tree trust and we are an organization that supports

gardening and gardening initiatives and refugee camps primarily in northern iraq so the garden this year has been directly inspired by the resiliency the determination the creativity that we've seen gardeners exhibit through our work in northern iraq we really wanted to bring a different message to different audience this year and so we thought chelsea might be the correct platform to do that so our garden is to highlight the way that people in iraq and in them as refugee camp are reusing materials that are reusing grey water really creating gardens out of small space and creating gardens and maybe less than ideal circumstances because obviously in media we hear about is the exponential numbers of refugees what was it like because you've been the to be in northern iraq right so the camp that we work and as opened in two thousand and twelve and when the camp first opened there are over fifty thousand syrian refugees that had fled across the border into the camp primarily syrian kurds we entered the camp in two thousand and fifteen and the numbers had almost half to it was about

twenty six thousand people that were still residents in the camp about six thousand six thousand so. by all accounts still a very very large population and when we first entered as what we did is we first started with a survey we just walked up and down some of the streets and we wanted to identify who was already gardening what were they doing and how could we support existing gardeners to capitalize on their existing knowledge base and how could we empower them to be mentors to other people in the community to put forth this message of you can actually grow things in this camp you can reuse water we can create something green and beautiful in it in a situation where you maybe wouldn't expect that so we entered them as the can't management that we dealt with there was a wonderful woman named layla who was in charge at that time and was extremely receptive to ideas of planting trees and supporting these initiatives that would really have not only a positive environmental impact but also a positive human and social impact and it's one of the first things that they say to you when you asked questions are being do this is the one of the first things

they miss most or leaving their homes for was it as we said these new tunisians are involved in these are the sounds of nature and they go in the trees absolutely and so my role on the team my background is i'm a cultural anthropologist and so my role is to sit with people and to talk to them and hear their stories and figure out what works and what doesn't work and and what it is that would make their lives a bit better in this situation and from those interviews from these direct conversations people absolutely said you know if i could open my door and see a tree or see green space you know it gives me somewhere for my kids to play it gives me somewhere to sit where i can have a bit of peace for a moment it can remind me of home and gives us a space to be together as a family and i think often we over you know we take for granted how important those things are when we entered in two thousand and fifteen a lot of the tents had started being converted into breezeblock homes some more permanent structures were

going up but people told us when i first got here within the first two weeks i started planting outside of my tent not just planting food. plowers because they wanted to have something that was beautiful and a lot more so it's about being able to reshape the space around you if you're in a situation of forced migration you want to be able to create a sense of autonomy you want to have control of your environment once again and creating a garden is a really great way to do that province drazen is hostile environment policy i'll give lee britain detains people in detention camps here in britain the un isn't being allowed notoriously do you think i mean some of those about going to be people waiting for legitimate asylum claims. i mean how important do you think it would be to them this kind of would i think it would be incredibly of important and i'm from the us myself and we have the same the same sort of situations where people are detained in detention centers and i think if you're able to implement

community gardening especially for people that have suffered trauma recently as many refugees that we work with have if you can create a space for women to be together or for families to be together where they can talk about shared experiences in a more culturally appropriate way it has a huge impact on their psycho social adjustment and on the healing process i think you should be able to bring gardens to all of the situations of people that have been forced to flee and are in a situation that's less than ideal because it does not only give you physical exercise and it's better for the environment i mean the benefits are countless but it does have that huge social and emotional impact that can really make a difference in somebody's just day to day reality why do you think that in the language used about refugees is asylum seekers. and none of this human side to it or the toll messy the designer of this go to we should remember that they're ordinary people teach as well as decorators and so is this is a wonderful question and thank you for bringing it up and then myself working with

refugees professionally and academically we constantly see that refugees. they're often framed in the media as victims as people that are recipients of aid and really categorized into a lump sum of a refugee in a migrant sometimes news organizations will show you what's happening on the ground and very live footage of civil war and and you know if you are watching chemical weapons attack videos these sort of things have had a lasting impact and people tend tend to want to engage with that but the flipside of that is that it does frame people and puts them into a particular box which is really not true to that population when i work in time as when i'm on the field i meet doctors my last translator had training as an aeronautical engineer you meet designers you meet carpenters you meet gardeners people from all walks of life i had a several hour long chat with a woman a couple months ago who was a beekeeper who started as a beekeeper when she got married her father gifted her a beehive and this is what she had done in damascus for several years and then she

finds herself in a refugee camp you know not able to tenby ease and trying to find a different trade to make a difference but it's incredibly important for people to remember that it could happen it could happen to any of any of us you know at any time and to really place yourself into their shoes and to their contacts that people are just people and the shared humanity i think that gardening can highlight is one of the most positive impacts and i hope one of the largest messages that we're putting forward with our garden at chelsea is very broken so i guess. that's it for the show will be back on monday when we go to ramallah to joke about studs chief negotiator so you beric up until then you can talk to us westerners will be to us you know maybe a good forty seven years to the day the judds of thousands were killed in the crocheted if the tire is called the revolutionary government for.

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for headline stories this hour the leaders of north korea meet to discuss the potential of u.s. north korea a peace summit but president trump still keeping people guessing as to whether he'll show all the clues to what everybody. knows it's also coming up america's afghanistan mission is to defeat here by the government. auditor's it's being welcomed by critics who say the military's got nothing to show after sixteen years and billions of dollars spent. there's something fishy in the waters off seattle in west coast america where muscles have tested positive for opioids highlighting the scope of a national prescription drug prices. around

the clock across the world this is our t international from the entire team and myself you know neal hello and welcome the leaders of north korea have met for the second time in less than a month since their first historic face to face talks they met again on saturday and they had to militarize zone separating the two nations side korea ses the main focus was to discuss the possible summit between the north and the u.s. well the korean leaders may be keeping things on track but president trump's mine's been changing like the wind his positive overtones took a hit on thursday when he abruptly pulled out of meeting came in june but the next day trump hinted it was all potentially back on again. we'll see what happens with . regard to that. what we'd like to see what.

everybody. knows you know that better than anybody. you have a change to turn around comes after north korea issued a statement reiterating its willingness to sit down for talks donald trump had canceled the meeting when pyongyang described the u.s. vice president as a political dummy mike pence had earlier threatened north korea with the fate of libya if talks fail. so based on the tremendous anger and open hostility displayed in your most recent statement i feel it is inappropriate at this time to have this long planned meeting here the summit was cancelled despite north korea's efforts towards deescalation such as they release of american prisoners and the destruction of its only nuclear test site we asked international relations expert mike sherman

about what it would take to convince the american leader to hold this summit who know who i suspect least of all donald trump knows what he thought i mean this is somebody who jumped into that meeting first of all quicker than a ferret stop a drain pipe there is no policy behind it this is somebody who is into making headlines and appeasing the base and yesterday the news did not go down well with his base supporters that he had pulled out of this meeting he'd always seen it as a chance to make peace on the korean peninsula which would be world breaking history and i think you saw yesterday you saw all of the dissolving. while the on off the. pyongyang decommissioned its only nuclear test site in a conciliatory effort ahead of the original talks date our correspondent was among the very small pool of international journalists invited to this certain morny he

not only witnessed the destruction itself but also managed to get some insight into the reclusive country. this is the restaurant car and as you can see it's dinner time we have been promised a ten course banquet also we know that's the part of the journalist pool from asian countries that dining in a separate cars but then you will these more traditional for them and ours was tailored more along to our tastes. this is where i will be spending the next eleven hours or so my very own oriental express i guess so check out the room the first thing to notice about it is the windows the blinds are shot there is some sort of a seal and we're not allowed to even peek from them never mind film anything. is an air conditioner some beverages but really not much left to do but to go to bed. everybody so we just woke up puts sits in the morning but check this out i just

want to feel something really quickly and they've opened the window the blinds are out so we probably means that we're really really close. so we finally arrived this is the dog station we're being told a cylinder now we're up for a bus ride these are the buses that will take us through the next leg of our journey. and. this is where the buses have taken us behind me is an entrance to one of the tunnels and in a few hours from now it won't exist anymore. right now we're walking to a different tunnel the people here are reassuring us saying that there have been no radiation leaves but many journalists may think that well it's better safe than sorry as you can see some a wearing respirator mosques and some crews have taken those he meets his with them

to the strip which were though confiscated at the customs we were also handed. these yellow safety helmets inside all tunnels more or less of the say this one is the newest one and had to be used as a tool but still as you can see like all others it is rigged for an explosion. throughout this trip we have been made very clear that what we've been treated to on this trip was a privilege not to many people here in the movie career experiences done of reporting from north korea to see yeah it really is a fascinating insight that is now about is artie's igor down off he is still

regularly posting updates by the way from north korea on his twitter page. all right there's a grim new assessment of progress for the united states in its drone i'd mission in afghanistan government auditors say efforts have stalled at best and the worst are failing here dawn quarter with more. you'd think that after sixteen years the u.s. led mission in afghanistan would finally have something to show for its trouble well here's how the federal authority tasked with overseeing reconstruction sees it . between two thousand and one and two thousand and seventeen years government efforts to save the licencee cure in contested areas in afghanistan mostly failed the us government greatly overestimated its ability to build and reform government institutions in afghanistan a pretty clear picture from cigar the top brass in washington though wants to

assure you they have everything under control now looking ahead to twenty eighteen as president gandhi said he believes we have turned a corner and i agree. the momentum is now with the afghan security forces and the taliban cannot win in the face of the pressures that i outlined you think they're talking about two completely different wars but they've been at opposite poles before just last year cigar said the u.s. failed to properly mentor afghan forces let alone give them the momentum to beat the taliban with the enormous personal and financial sacrifices already made by afghans in their international partners the country my have relapsed to control by extremists and terrorists and again us generals are reading from an entirely different script. afghanistan special operations forces are becoming the best in the region and the afghan air force is unable in those ground elements there is more work to be done and it will take time however this remains

a very very worthy investment failing or not u.s. military leadership doesn't seem to be that bothered about how much this war is costing either flashback to twenty fourteen cigar reported that afghan reconstruction had exceeded the true cost of the marshall plan you know the u.s. is project to reconstruct all of western europe after world war two yeah it sounds like a budget busting hefty price tag for american generals though it's a necessary expense to get things just right for a victory we should be seeking to win this war counterinsurgencies take a while i think we have gone a long way to setting the conditions for what generally would usually is the defining factor in winning a counterinsurgency which is to set the conditions for governments so that the conditions for the rule of law set the conditions for economic opportunity go back farther to two thousand and nine and things already weren't looking so good then president obama had committed over thirty eight billion dollars to repair efforts

in the region and that money was going to who exactly. our office also initiated preliminary inquiry. into twenty three allegations of fraud waste and abuse even then u.s. military leaders optimistically saw the situation as a great springboard for their military campaign i'm not prepared to say that we have turned the corner but i think we have made significant progress in setting conditions in two thousand and nine and will make a real progress in two thousand and ten it takes a lot to keep that optimism up all these years but one thing the u.s. generals might have lost sight of is that if you plan to keep turning corners you'll end up right where you began donald quarter r.t. . french president may have been talking up his people focused policies in recent days but in part as right now these are live pictures fellow students are right.