in this region they are destroying the moderates in this region these things and extremism in this region and extremist this region bloodying their decisions as you said of president ram because they are telling us look for twenty five years you have been negotiating. you you said to us you which of the two it was the two state solution jerusalem and be governor of palestine was doesn't have to reza and look what they're doing to you know what do you answer. what do i answer you said when the leader arrives at israel until that peaceful protest arguably doesn't work what are your people supposed to do until a leader. of what we have no place to go could there from the river jordan to their military and in the greater historic palestine today i am fifty point nine percent of the pollution. and is forty nine point one percent of the pollution

what the question to them what are they going to do with me i'm here i'm here to stay i'm going to develop my own army my institutions my schools my university is my hospital is i have to protect my people in every sense possible we still believe we will still continue to seek peace but we want nations on earth like. union for instance to move to stand tall where can there who is jerusalem as capital of palestine what can they do who knows the policy instead when they say two state solution where can they help the palestinian moderates to steer the course where can they help keep hope in the minds of palestinians because i'm afraid if peaceful demonstrations don't work and if peace negotiations are not working i'm afraid this vacuum will be filled by this variation and this petition only this but it acts that's the truth never a dull moment if we want to avoid violence if we want to avoid extremism if we want to avoid this but we should act immediately to keep the alive in the minds of

palestinians so america. after the break. to hear a different perspective we speak to the co-chair of the northwest friends of israel rafi bloom and savile row for everyone out jewish immigration to britain led to a tale of changing the way every man in britain looks today that alone full well of going up to ground fame all the civil coming up on to him going underground. you never know what's around the corner you never know what's in the pub and all contain at least that excitement is that not knowing that's where the adrenalin

rush comes from. who needs a room by definition and explained the world for most of. the violence is a part and it's almost a schizophrenia gang we can do all these things and behave badly. in point of the public hospital for all. of us but more so for the last. honest man infirmed. more or less from the start. i would rather we're not by figure out really good uphold are now going to get. moving in reason is a beast if you don't involve this constantly evolving. welcome back we've just heard from palestine chief negotiator saeb erekat to talk

about what he believes a possible solution is to end the violence in gaza to hear the other side of the story i'm now joined from manchester by rafi blum the co-chair of northwest friends of israel rafik thanks for coming on going underground who is to blame for the massacre in gaza because of the united states moving its embassy from tel aviv to jerusalem well i'd like to correct you industry and say the massacre in gaza some aspects of blame for any deaths they've confirmed that of the sixty dead fifty eight members of some islamic jihad have claimed another said another story and let's be clear this protest and these deaths were not because of don't trust moving the american embassy to jerusalem these process quite clearly. because hamas has lost its strategic advantage its offices extracts and feels the need to reinvent itself and so it's instigating these riots knowing full well that they're not going to get anywhere using them as cover for attempted terrorist attacks and

infiltration into israel and so if anybody is to blame for any of the deaths it's clearly some us a sense of billions to a sovereign border fence when they know the dangers because the international community does not accept that it is a border fence because it is in violation of un resolutions would you though support an inquiry to vindicate what you just said there and to answer your first point first actually the the border with gaza and israel is the international armistice line there is no debate yet over the holidays line not a border yet but there's nobody does no debate it's not the case not called the green line is that there's no sort of you know going to be any attempt to renegotiate those borderlines any final status aleutian so it's israel sovereign bought us in terms of an inquiry i believe that the i.d.f. has done all its accounts and mitigates as many sort of injuries and casualties as possible i think it has clear rules of engagement it is clear rules of engagement and i think that we've seen that hamas of use these riots and as an attempt to

infiltrate we've seen videos of people actually getting on to the other side with knives with meat cleavers with weapons shouting we're here think of inquiry don't you think a choir would vindicate your position and that is after all the position of the israeli government why not i mean when someone is shot dead in london at a demonstration there'd be an inquiry. my answer to that is as a i'm not a member of the i.d.f. but i feel confident that should there be an inquiry yes it would be indicate the i.d.f. is obviously asked that because the united nations human rights commission has voted twenty nine to two to independently investigate but israel will not support any independent investigation into the deaths but i think you have to look at the united nations you know human rights council is massively biased against israel in any event and a number of countries abstained from that vote as well including the u.k. it's not the united nations security council it's not the united nations general assembly it's united nations human rights council which has been known for years so

it's used by so resolutions against israel i do think that you mention the united nations armistice line isn't there a problem here with israel continually opposing u.n. institutions because when is israel going to abide by a united nations security council resolutions but it's interesting you say that because of course the united nations resolution two forty two doesn't state doesn't call for withdrawal completely from any occupied territories it calls to exalt in one hundred sixty seven borders it calls for withdrawal from this from occupied territories in return for peace and security so when you quote united nations resolutions you have to apply it to both sides of the united nations resolution to force it was very very clear withdraw from occupied territory in return for peace and security israel does not have peace and security when its neighboring arab countries and the palestinians offer it peace and security you know why not focus on that why not say to them why are you biting bayonets nations resolutions two forty two and offering this of peace and security it's

a two way street this resolution was not one way that resolution of course is conditionality according to the international community and the certainly no conditionality on the status of jerusalem u.n. security council two three three four in december of twenty sixteen as recently as that so why is israel celebrating the breaking of that resolution well when you say jerusalem. i mean that speaks where jerusalem was the capital of israel in one nine hundred forty s. forty eight forty nine it's the place where the government sits where they just reset where the executive sets it's where any foreign diplomats who comes to israel to meet with their israeli counterparts comes to visit them it's where heads of state go it's never been a capital of a palestinian state to my recollection correct me if i'm wrong and so therefore jerusalem is the capital of the jewish people it's going to start going to come to the jewish people for millenia for the young so there are un resolutions there that settlements in east jerusalem are a flagrant violation of international law united nations resolution says that obviously you know i don't i don't believe. that any part of jerusalem that is not

part of israel let me tell you something i was in israel three weeks ago i spent a day in the west bank i spent a day with an easter is that with many easter as the nights and they said to me very very clearly they would rather remain under israeli sovereignty and become citizens of israel and live under palestinian authority rule and it's interesting because in one nine hundred sixty seven when israel recaptured or took control of east jerusalem out of the holy sites it offered every palestinian or every arab resident at the time to be system citizenship now they collectively said no but at the end of the day those citizens those residents of east jerusalem benefit from all the benefits that you get from living in israel and they said to me very clearly i've heard it with my own ears that they would rather remain under israeli sovereignty and be part of the palestinian authority is finally i don't know what you thought of the media coverage of what's been happening near that buffer zone between the armistice line but britain's nato ally turkey has compared jews to

nazis and their treatment of palestinians indicative of what you've been hearing from so many sides of the international community in the past few weeks i mean first of all i would say that you know any comparison of of the israel palestinian conflict to the nazis is abhorrent and it's actually absent that israel has not been committing acts of genocide against the palestinians indeed the palestinians now number some. four point two million people in one thousand folks yet there were six hundred forty thousand is rather pretty rubbish at genocide if that's the case no it's completely wrong turkey speak to the folks on how cunt to eat who has been engaged in the massacring of kurds the ethnic cleansing of kurds and that's a fact that israel dealing with the palestinians you know i was at the area's border crossing three weeks ago the palestinian authority stopping for atrocity in gaza they've lost the salaries of fatah employees in gaza they thought early retirement of thousands more some us are using palestinian civilians as human shields for terror acts israel is the only entity that believes in increasing the

prosperity of gardens of ordinary gazans and understands that will lead to potential peace and an increase in potential peace so the international community and turkey especially is in no position so that it is not about anything right people and thank you. thank you very much. now to something very different paul well i wrote the political song going underground appears in a new documentary charting the career of a designer who has arguably influence how people look across britain and all around the world the subject so i like call him curator john simons with over six decades in retailing helped to define british modernism john welcome to going underground what do you think of a film that seems to imply that every man in britain owes a debt to you in some way when they get dressed in the morning i had a very long career in men's clothing you know even since before i left school and i

think it's great that. the film depicts that and explains it to some extent without being big headed it would be true to say they can't be many people have been touched in some way or another who hasn't had a harrington jacket or hasn't had something that we that we were the inspiration for the caller's hair back down shirts we were we went pushing them since sixty two sixty three is quite a long time ago and so when you opened you had a shop in east london then in west london and you had clothes coming in from the united states after a point it didn't start off like that it started off with us running around looking for people who could take this to pieces and copy it take this to pieces and copy and they were big manufacturers because we were actually kids you know we wanted just small quantities so there's always teething troubles in that you know ambition

was to go to the us so i started going to the us around sixty six sixty seven and that was an awakening you know i suddenly found this whole world of wall to wall ivy league clothes shirts. stay precious trowsers all that whole ivy league stake and yet it was the working classes of this country i loved your shoulders and your clothes and that fashion in the united states was was richer people it was everybody everybody i'm telling it was everybody with big stores button down shirts pollard i'm high there were millions of them it was a disposable society you know everybody everybody wore. short pants and the bottom high fashion the waist what's coming in short pants narrow at the bottom in the waist you know here for us the voices in the film like paul weller who wrote a song which this program is named after said he says it was about identity and

that it somehow linked to music an art and it was you know was not like a group identity you know when we're young we want to plug into something so that we have kind of unanimous feelings about things and that was what was happening happened slowly i remember the first day when we go in enrichment the ivy shop which is an iconic name now. i think we took. sixty five pounds sixty five pounds of quite a lot in nine hundred sixty four we were absolutely over the moon you know and that's the it works. because it's a point made by the broadcaster robert elms in england people didn't talk much about clothes and he makes the point that the jewish emigres room europe came over big history of tailoring in jewish communities in your oh yeah and they they were allowed to talk about men's wear whereas the post-war generation the kids if we

only have them or did start to talk about it you know they got football but they still like their clothes and they wanted to have a shared interest in clothes and they would come along to the ivy shop every week and what we doing what we doing what's new what do you think of what was said in the film about how when working class britain to motown music and other forms of african-american music to britain it somehow became both music is always linked with some of the kind of difference so your taking of ivy league fashion for me and i we lay back to jazz because a lot of our influences were on the jazz opaque albums the blues. modern jazz quartet. chip by coal these people they all wore ivy league it's not just poor well of the musicians suggs from madness to turn brand is on and he says he kind of

brushes it off quite quickly that skinheads obviously adopted the hiring janet was associated with. some of the right wing politics in the race itself do you think where they came in two years ago while the scary and we didn't go skinheads we had what you call suede heads which were sophisticated skinheads and they were less racist whether they were just i wouldn't. want to say that but they it was modified but but gradually that element did come out of it and we get the west indian guys come in where and look and they were really happy in the shop they come along on a saturday and they say i want to parody blockbusters they're big heavy shoes you're used to so impaired that was their nickname from the blockbusters. when you know i got take that. take that you know i don't seem to have many to arms. so we never had a problem of that so you know we always love the fact that we had all different

people from different backgrounds coming in but conscious about the media frenzy of more than rocker is the kind of gang we very happy today we were very seventy's we were great extent we created that as either an offshoot or directly of what we were doing today identity arguably is high fashion labels yes once the working class not necessarily tailoring curated by by one of. most things in fashion these days are very much to do internet publicity who they have on board. and people want to follow their vision where we're a little bit underground but we do have a big following. very big following by people who feel they're a little more in touch with the reality of clothing what about the fact that you are such an early importer from southeast asia you talk about shoes from korea yeah

i do that what do you think about the explosion in that kind of trade you can blow things may well with good craftsmanship i started to go to spain and all these different people and noticed the american bar was almost setting up factories there so i began to realize that it was happening all around the world and they were you know there were capabilities or manufacturer and we found some really good stuff waiting career i just went to an office in the city saw the korean guy showed and so was i wanted a couple months later they copy so that we ok them and we were off john so i would say. that's never been a show will be back on wednesday when as commemoration hearings continue at the inquiry into britain's west tower block grant felt we have veteran grime mc marcy phonics his new song and why he believes you can prime minister dres i'm a is taking liberties until then you can give each of us my church and we do with

your wednesday one hundred seventy six years to the day that john francis tried to assassinate british queen victoria he said damn the queen why should she be such an expense to the nation. if we continue to discuss only about some amateurs of the maastricht. come back six pounds and we don't we are nothing to give to the next generation reason for the rich to be proud to be european these is the reason i love you a scam. global blogs sell you on the idea that dropping bombs brings police to the chicken hawks

forcing you to fight the battles of the stone. the new socks credit tell you that somebody gossip the public are files of the most important news today. on the box of advertising tell me you are not cool enough to buy their product. these are the hawks that we along with our loved ones on. calls for impeachment after the president rejects the coalition so euro skeptic economy minister a move branded as a violation of democracy i'm wondering if we are in a democracy different it's in the italians this is the actual point i have a great problem in italy. i think condemns israel's actions against palestinian protesters it's revealed that british. record numbers of weapons to be.

also in the program we speak to a black activist neo nazi rally which says the police were trying to file charges against him. just one in ten o'clock on monday morning here in moscow this is r.t. international we've just rounded up your top stories for this hour. no government for italy as the euro skeptic coalition clashes with the country's president over his rejection of the choice of economy minister the coalition is now calling for the president's impeachment saying his actions are violate democracy. he has more. i'm wondering if we are in a democracy and different talents decide for the germans to sign the french decide it's incredible. i approve of the proposals for the ministers but i did not approve the name of the minister of economy. i guarantee that i have made the greatest

effort and given this task my up must. i ask for that ministry and author of political figure from the coalition parties who is not seen as a supporter of a line that could provoke italy's exit from the euro. this is the actual point where i have a great problem in italy this is not a free democracy italy has been forced into. political crisis after the italian president rejected the idea of paolo being the next economy minister for the country in the coalition government of the league and the five star movement well mr servo owner is eighty one years old he's a former trade minister in italy and he's had a long career in the financial sector but he was deemed to be too euro skeptic he's talked out in the past against the euro itself in the past with his latest book actually suggesting that the single currency is actually

a german cage and that's why he couldn't be economy minister now we have heard from one coalition leader who actually suggests that the german media and german politicians have had an underhand role in stopping that appointment german journalists and politicians insulting. the big lazy tax evaders freeloaders an ungrateful people and we should use a fine and smooth as the the like most things those accusations came after a number of german publications basically showed their displeasure with that coalition populist government going ahead dispy goal which is their weekly in germany had basically accused the italians of being scroungers and wanting to scrounge off the the rest of the e.u. and it also talked about this coalition as essentially proceeding to wards blackmail while another magazine had a front cover with a cameo in

a truck with the italian flag on it and also the symbols of this populist coalition essentially driving off a cliff and there is really only reason for that concern in europe because both of these two parties have shown that they are hugely euro skeptic in childers to everyone even only gura p. level from now on the italians come first that's important because italy was not just. only a founding member of what became the european union but it's also one of the three largest economies with france and germany so it is a cause for concern if you look at what their manifesto had pledged to do over the next three years being a good italian also means being a good european citizen it needs to be repeated out loud especially now we have to brace ourselves for the worst scenario and the worst scenario could be no operational government that had included putting italy first raul the brussels renegotiating e.u.

treaties also cutting taxes lifting sanctions against russia and deporting more immigrants all these things pretty much against the ethos of what we hear from brussels so what will happen now well a stopgap prime minister has been put in place for the interim period but the coalition has threatened that they might go ahead and try and impeach the italian president now as a result of him blocking that coalition government going ahead or we could also see italy facing fresh elections it's only eleven weeks since the last elections but it's up to anybody's game to guess what will happen next. well just to give you some background and election was held nearly three months ago where no party secured a majority however a coalition pact was eventually formed with a political novice appointed prime minister but he resigned just a few days later after failing to form a government and we spoke to a member of the five star party one of the coalition partners he says rejected

economy minister savona i was not and he europe. incredible point is that the candidate. was the first saying us as stay in the e.u. in the euro zone but there's to be more stronger in the east if you show to bring some good point at home what might there alice said today in a t.v. conference was that it was not ok because in the past you criticize the you so can you imagine a democracy where a minister cannot be a minister because he has some political idea you can be else you can be a problem you've been dried just guilty for something by you cannot be a problem if you have some good idea. former italian prime minister matteo renzi is the latest guest on artie's so if you think oh discussing why the countries are so politically divided now you can watch of the full interview later today we have

a lot of single problem single issues surely migrants surely the luck of appointment of an employment is one of the most important problem of my county but in general a part of europe that economy in france now because it was not working for american even if the very line in one formula is correct also you for using to about. some countries very rich you see they grow up one of the scepter business so ultimately forgotten in germany with a very good performance in economy it's a strange message so it's not only economy it's also economy is also economy but there's not only economy. in my county is not on li money's problem because the rich ne. vault for.

an art. police this is the time for europe to come back to greet. to greet the great the us. the u.k. sold a record number of arms to israel this year that's according to a new report by the campaign against arms trade it comes as british politicians condemn use of force against palestinian protesters artie's investigates. after israel's use of life fire against palestinians on may the fourteenth there was condemnation in much of the world not least the u.k. yesterday's horrific massacre at the. left at least fifty eight and the loss of life we have seen is tragic and extremely concerning. such as is destructive to peace efforts and we call on all sides to show restraint the launch of life is

extremely concerning we continue to employ israel to show great restraint yet despite those strong words for years britain has been ramping up how much weaponry it sells to israel since two thousand and fifteen numbers have skyrocketed up eleven fold in the span of just two years and those sales include star power rifles weapon sites munition for small arms anti right equipment and other items similar to those used by israeli forces against unarmed protesters. the u.k. doesn't keep data on how such equipment and weapons are used after being sold until that can be established m.p.'s put forward a motion to suspend sales altogether in the loads of the extensive use of. israeli forces against palestinians in gaza the house calls for. sales to israel

unless it can be demonstrated that weapons and components imported from the u.k. . in accordance with the consolidated criteria that motion did not make it to debate and while just after the killing of protesters britain did join the chorus of countries calling for an independent investigation when the un put sending a war crimes probe to gaza to a vote the u.k. abstained calling into question just how important the truth is to teresa mayes government and living on in the comfortable position of condemning potentially her fake abuses also in the guns to carry them out. always in your throat. actually they have increased their arses or else by being critical occasionally for the mobile the more the shareholders go i'm with you the i'm with you the album shadow right i'm going through the roof i think i really believe that there is time and hold a people working at the systems or album or any other you've done.