millions and millions and millions of millions or hundreds of millions of dollars flowed into the clinton foundation and then something beneficial took place for the people who gave money to the clinton foundation that is a huge huge. scandal the reason that clinton used a private e-mail server yeah and she eventually transferred top secret special access program intelligence onto that server which is that's the big issue is how she actually transferred how she was able to transfer that intelligence from separate skits on to her server the reason she used that service because of the clinton foundation and i think that the trump russia and nonsense i think the truck question nonsense is just one way to hide a giant money laundering you know no one can find what it is ha ha what it is what it is the ills exactly what it is it's really nothing to see here folks look away it's a way to absolve the clinton machine and to place blame on trump here i mean let me go to christopher in washington i mean i listen to two. brandon clapper basically

saying you know surveilling spying on whatever word you want to use on the tram campaign was actually to protect them and to protect the united states why didn't they just tell the campaign hey i think we got some more reason right here you might want to be careful who you talk to i mean that would have been the right thing to do would have been a neutral thing to do if that's in case what it was because i don't believe it was because if it was that they would have done that go ahead christopher totally agree peter i mean if you look at the entire investigation of what's happened there hasn't been any sort of consistency going both sides in terms of just having a standard and sticking to it and it sort of shocked me throughout the whole soap opera of the hillary clinton e-mails that at some point there's going to be politics and there's going to be all that stuff but at some point there has to be some sort of unified standard if you're breaking the law you're breaking national security protocol you should be in trouble and if you look at i mean look at james comey i mean he's a beta male who's on his boring book tour. he's

a clown it's about him it's not about the duty of the f.b.i. i think there's a they really need a facelift i think the brand is really hurting after all this and just tend to agree with with your premise and your lead in charles here right before we go to the break here i mean i guess i've still got to stick with my narrative is that i think that sessions and and ray and others understand the implications once all of this is revealed about how the deep state colluded against a drum campaign that's going to put it's going to be an institutional crisis when this comes out go ahead charles. well look i think the institution has been in crisis for a long time you know robert mueller was in charge of the f.b.i. from september fourth two thousand and one to supplant a fourth two thousand and thirteen then followed by james comey look at the number of disasters that occurred under their respective watches they couldn't find obvious clinton foundation fraud they missed the iranian one scandal they missed the laureate scandal they missed the scandal reorganizing clint federation two thousand and nine forward you know what didn't they miss and the reality is that

technological tools of god ever stronger and we the american public the wider world need to debate about how much power security services should have protected our country snoop inside our country and then not to can take care of that those secrets are disseminated around to blackmail politicians to blackmail donors and to be used for nefarious purposes i think we need to have our eyes wide open here a major league investigation anyone no matter how powerful who broke these laws needs to be investigated ideally indicted convicted and sent away to prison ok well you know a you know i before we do the break here mother did find those seventeen russian trolls in st petersburg you know don't underestimate him gentlemen we're going to go to a short break and after that short break we'll continue our discussion on donald trump's spygate.

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welcome back to cross like we're all things considered i'm peter lavelle to remind you we're discussing what president trump calls spygate. ok let's go back to los angeles ha charles made a wonderful point at the end of the first half of the program here is this what they're really afraid of with a second investigation because first of all the first one with muller has not. you know if you're in washington d.c. i mean if something really important about collusion with trump and rush it would have been released a long long long time ago i mean how many leaks in there always leaks one direction have you noticed that and he let me stay with here i mean they're afraid of this second. investigation because it really will reveal institutional corruption and i even think and this is where i think it gets really tricky and dicey because that

goes beyond party affiliation and i think that's why they're very hesitant about this because it will in a lot more people not just one side go ahead ha well let's look at who has been investigating doll trump john brennan lied under oath about spying on the senate james clapper lied under oath about the n.s.a. spying on americans james komi lied under oath about exonerating clinton before her interview peter struck in a text message said we can't take the risky use the word risk we can't take the risk of trump becoming president we have to engage in the insurer and insurance policy that we spoke about a mantra mccabe's office trying to just fire moeller and tweet that text. but then let's look at andrew mccabe he lied and he lied under oath twice and lied four times this is the office of professional responsibility at the f.b.i. so you have all of these people who are in immense positions of power lying either

lying under oath or obviously part of not a conspiracy theory an actual conspiracy of individuals to achieve a political goal john brennan met with harry reid during the election to inform harry reid of alleged russian interference he didn't why didn't he inform president obama why didn't he meet president obama the n.s.a. the f.b.i. and the cia have a fifty thirty five billion dollar combined budget with for thirty five billion dollars the american people get moderate to high confidence and if you look at the d.n.i. and the h.s. reports the two intelligence reports that all of this is based on there's nothing certain to zero evidence and there's a war there are warranty disclaimers stating that even high confidence the highest level of assessment even high confidence could be wrong yeah and they actually say in one of the reports don't take anything we say as fact so the intelligence reports are completely just basically opinion three hundred thirty five billion

dollars of opinion you have the d.n.c. who never gave its computer service to the f.b.i. they hired crowd strikethrough hillary clinton purchasing through her law firm crowd strike paying crowd strike and also paying christopher steele infusion g.p.s. and glenn simpson for the steel ducey if anyone colluded with russia it was hillary clinton well who purchased the steel right and it was how this russian source in the foreign country is the u.k. not russia here christopher watching the cable stations do you is it conceivable in your mind that president obama knew nothing about what his underlings were doing is that conceivable in your mind. it could be i mean i think there was a general awareness i mean certainly and he had no sort of the obsessive instincts of hillary clinton wanted to be president i mean you know we heard the end it develops from election night in terms of the people that hillary clinton was most angry at was bill clinton barack obama and then donald trump it was everyone's

fault but our own but we should definitely take a pause for a second to acknowledge hillary clinton's talent she can't even cheat in a way and you know i don't think that if you're cheating and you have all of this behind you you do when she can even cheat and win and the whole thing about you know three million votes she won l.a. and she won new york right you know it was a lecture of votes hillary clinton couldn't even cheat and win that charles i want to go i want i am not going to let obama off the hook here because it's been explained to me a by a number of people that have experience in high government is that such a coordinated plan such as we're discussing right now could not have been done without the white house knowing about it so what did he know and when did he know it charles i i you know i think that's absolutely the case i mean i think that in this narrow matter. the clintons in the obama's got together i believe in the june through november two thousand and eight timeframe they hammered out

a deal the memorandum of understanding that supposedly regularized relations between the clinton foundation among the clinton foundation bill clinton the secretary of state is it is a complete piece of garbage it's not enforceable that wouldn't have gotten across the line if there were real lawyers a member of barack obama president the harvard law review hillary clinton smartest lawyer in the world you know from the very beginning this was an artifice the clintons had something on obama we don't yet know what it was and obama decided to play along he what he was in for two terms hillary was supposed to succeed him and then cover all the stuff up and so absolutely i believe certainly valerie jarrett is arry or consider a guest. she knew all about this and you know it's high time that we go back over this because the thing to remember whether you're a democrat or republican this is a a horrible precedent that people are going to look back for decades and say you can get away this with this type of criminal behavior twenty years from now forty years

from now maybe four years from now or two years from now somebody is going to try to do far worse than the clintons and the obama's did and we need to expose what happened we need to investigate indict convict and incarcerate people who did this and send them away for a long long time and take away all of their stuff you know ha i think a lot of viewers watching this program initially i think that were very partisan here and i think charles put in put it in the best possible words i mean i'm not doing this everybody knows my partisan politics but it's not being played out on this program i think what all of us are talking about is institutions and values and the rule of law and i think that's what really ties us all together i'm a conservative ha you're i know you're a progressive here but we're on the same page about. decency in public life and in officials being held accountable and this is why i think we need another investigation to see to make sure that the government officials expect particularly the unelected ones are held to account go ahead ha well absolutely and there's

a famous c.n.n. clip of president obama saying it's absolutely impossible candidate trump should stop whining yeah and it's impossible that anyone could rig the election and he went on and on about how the experts and all the authorities in the most educated people would never ever stoop so low as to blame anyone for an election loss so trunk should just stop whining then we have nonstop whining continual and never ending whining from from clinton and the democratic party. they're going to lose the in the midterms there or they have like what if thirteen or fourteen point lead in the house in the generic polls for both the house or the house in the senate they'll lose the senate or they'll the g.o.p. will keep control of the senate and keep control of the house and they're going to limp into two thousand and twenty trump unless there's something god forbid that's

just unforseen trump will easily defeat democrats in two thousand and twenty because democrats don't stand for anything they think that people care about russian interference in the election cares nobody cares holes polls are showing that people are tired of miller muller doesn't stand for anything except if he could indict people on jaywalking he would there's no collusion with russia there's no evidence of anything. the interesting aspect of all of this is that democrats have convinced themselves that for example a trump jr meeting is some kind of example of treason trump jr never got any e-mails from clinton and even if he did they would have emanated from a server that was once on encrypted outside the us government that stored special access program intelligence and by the way anthony wiener had eighteen classified emails on his laptop and we don't even have to get into the pictures on that laptop

so the issue here is the biggest cybersecurity scandal. in history you had a secretary of state hillary clinton who had special access program intelligence that was transferred somehow on to her server maybe brian pagliaro maybe justin cooper nobody knows right now but the d.o.j. is actually investing there but i'll bet it was answered but a.j. but a lot of people around the world know exactly what was on the had server it was like an open door exact everybody stopped by ok and that's why i was i to i don't think of any kind of foreign to foreign intelligence service would have ever said anything about it i mean if you're going to keep getting this free information from the secretary of state why do you want to interrupt it let it get government no one in their right mind would have said julian a solid we have we have these e-mails nobody the intelligence community would ever do anything like that it was a gift it just kept on giving ok christopher let me go to you because.

you know the motor investigation here i mean what does he have to show to prove that it is worth over all the long time period here i mean we you know paul man of fort had nothing to do with russia papadopoulos had nothing to do with russia i mean he lied to the f.b.i. none of these things had all those seventeen kids ok they can't even speak english and the most of the ads on facebook or after the election i mean i don't understand how m.s.n. b.c. and c.n.n. keep this going i mean most of it is silly ok go ahead chris for. no i think the point was made earlier about sort of like you're dedicated to this track and you just don't know when to stop i mean you've hit the brick wall and you're just you're focused on the gas i think they've committed themselves to that narrative for so long they wouldn't know what to do it themselves if they tried to do something else and in terms of hillary clinton's excuse i mean to write a whole book about it i mean it's like what happened it's the only it's the only

book or the question and the answer is on the cover you know hillary clinton has and so i thought i mean that's kind of the way i look at it but in terms of mahler i think that i think it's problematic and i think that you know there's just been a lot of lost faith i mean now they're sort of harassing essentially trump's friends i mean some of his advisors yeah they've looked into their harassing their businesses their associates i mean again it's almost like the same issue we touched on with c.n.n. you're so committed to that you don't want to turn back but i think they need to have independent counsels look at all this stuff from now on so that people can at least have some faith or ever the compass falls it'll be fair and regardless of political outcome we're almost out of time i want to ask very real quick question i think carter page is going to get a very big check one day from the u.s. government per definition yes or no what do you agree agree or not. it's possible you know i mean it's what do you think that maybe the administration what do you think charles carter page is going to have

a payday check is going to be denominated big. oh to start up with big like you ok all right gentlemen that's all the time we have here many thanks to my guests in washington and in new york and in los angeles and thanks to our viewers for watching us here at r.t.c. the next time and remember cross talk to us. join me every thursday on the alex salmond show and i'll be speaking to guest on the world of politics sports business i'm show business i'll see that. what politicians do sometimes. they put themselves on the line to get accepted or rejected. so when you want to be president i'm sure. some want to listen.

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you not only involves it's constantly evolving in. this hour's top headlines on our t.v. a new british documentary reveals the doctors treating. by sort of a script that is the water first thought they were dealing with a drug overdose and initially took no additional precautions. you hope you expectations with us nominates the eighteenth commander of the afghan war which has now been running for seventeen years on the program we look at the fate of afghans who hope that donald trump would signal a new era for the country. and the host of legendary goalie peter schmeichel visits russia's side on some a world cup host city that has special significance for him. all games being played here and the first of those that's a personal interest to me is that will feature my son playing in this but then

again. just twenty one pm on wednesday may the thirtieth this is our international live from moscow come your latest top story. the b.b.c. documentary has revealed the testimonies of doctors that treated by pollen his daughter following the poisoning of the british so do you have sold in march aunties and asked us to check into reports this sub b.b.c. newsnight programme documentary has certainly highlighted some more curiosities about the whole script all saga adding just a little bit more mystery to this whole story if we didn't have enough already now this is a firsthand account of the medical staff doctors and nurses that were treating this compiles when they were admitted to hospital in salisbury following the poisoning and for starters some of the things described in this documentary were that

initially it was assumed that the script all had experienced an opioid overdose and there were no extra precautions taken in that regard there was no indication of the fact that there was an agent and therefore we take no more protection when any patient comes in which has no at that point. taken any extra precautions and. protecting ourselves disco balls were found on a park bench back in march on march fourth on a sunday they were taken to hospital then by tuesday police officer nick bailey was admitted into the hospital and then only after it was that based off of a red flagging from other scientific lab porton down that it was revealed that a nerve agent had been used and despite all this and all the talk of the harm that this nerve agent potentially being what it is could cause those who polls were sort of miraculously cured and this is something that

a doctor in this documentary described as well that it came as a surprise how quickly they had recovered meanwhile a russian chemical expert that we spoke to said that the symptoms associated with an opioid overdose would be very different from those associated with a nerve agent poisoning which was in the initial police report stated grupo was swinging back and forth while seated on the bench and also raised his hands multiple times and this description resembles a drugs overdose and the initial version was that the scruples were suffering from friends and the poisoning total signs of military grade substance poisoning or rapid pupil constriction spasms and urine every incontinence all the symptoms are absent from the initial report photos well certainly lots of curious details and to this day it seems clear that there are still lots and lots of details in this whole case to be addressed. after the incident the u.k. claimed that russia was behind the attack saying that only russia had the means and

the motive as well as a so-called track record of moscow has repeatedly denied it had any involvement it said other countries also developed and noted that it had traded scripts for a high profile spy swap and therefore had no reason to go after him also so the fact that it's being denied access to use a russian citizen is suspicious and we spoke to a former u.n. chemical weapons expert mr wood can he believes that the u.k. has some very tough questions to answer but i believe we're talking about damage control because right now we came to the point were all the previous statements so for you. to be. lights because first the stated the only russia was the producer of. chemicals. chemicals or military or weapon grade agents then they said the

screwballs will never survive then they said that they will survive they will be damaged so badly that they won't be able to leave the normal life so i believe that at this particular point even close allies or for the u.k. are starts and asking questions of course there would be contact between the personnel and the victims so it seems that. if there is more questions on how the agent was introduced in their bodies how they were exposed. fortunately this organ failure was also exposed he actually contacted with scruples for just about several minutes but the person now who dealt with scruples was not exposed a lot of cases are described in the literature medical literature how people even. after a very strong exporter to even to chemical

a real chemical weapons. real. military grade agents people were treated quietly after they were exposed in the recovered fully and with the first antidote is there is no question so would be used in any case if the second door is difficult to select so then the people would be pulled into the they would be sedated very heavily to make sure that the brain would. send signals to nervous system in. therapy would be weeded. the body would replace the. poisoned. with the newly formed so it usually takes several weeks to several months but that's exactly what we see in. donald trump has appointed a new commander of u.s.

and nato forces in afghanistan the u.s. led mission to help afghanistan get rid of terrorists start of them two thousand and two shortly after the nine eleven attack lieutenant general austin miller becomes the eighteenth commander of a seventeen year campaign that means the afghanistan mission has had a new commander every year on average the latest u.s. watchdog report says the campaign has little if any good to that country. it is good.

for. some in afghanistan who hoped america's presence would i'm sure a new era of peace and stability for the country have paid a heavy price. america tells the story back in august twenty sixth an afghan man named his son after donald trump but that was before television for the white house now after being inspired by trump's business achievements outlined his books the afghan man hope that giving his son the same name would bring about the same sort of luck but we're very happy to name our child off to the best politician and i hope he will become a politician like donald trump as well i gave my son this name to make him lucky and i want to see him is smart and mindful as donald trump but that's backfired miserably the family was driven out of their hometown because his community took issue with the child's non muslim name now he's for courtly fled afghanistan after seeing the reaction to my son's name and also the taliban directed assassination of

the men who were awarded president trouble i don't feel safe this comes after the taliban assassinated one of the afghan men who minted a gold medal honoring the us president back in january cold in the b. and his friend a far hot party raise money to produce a special gift for donald trump to thank the state department for toughened stance on pakistan we are suspending security assistance security assistance only to pakistan at this time. time intill the pakistani government takes decisive action against groups including the afghan taliban goal nobody was killed by the taliban and that's according to a taliban spokesperson sadly appreciation for donald trump isn't exactly body armor his friend who was involved in producing the medal for. now fears for his life and he blames that washington for failing to protect them. the americans are offering can help us in fact we were deceived because we thought the americans really appreciates all work and our intentions we thought the u.s.

is a superpower and values friendship but it doesn't nearly seventeen years ago the u.s. invaded afghanistan to eradicate terrorism but after all these years to even those who still have trust in washington it seems that it can't be protected so america on our team washington d.c. . well a russian journalist was being killed in the ukrainian capital at a copy but janko was shot in the back while entering his apartment we get more details now cross live to. a new show what more can you tell us well. it was a russian journalist who died from gunshot wounds in ukraine's capital kiev now he was found in his apartment by his wife who called the emergency services but he later died from his injuries now. veteran correspondent he worked for a number of russian media outlets as well as being a contributor to the b.b.c. and the guardian he was known for being.