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tv   Worlds Apart  RT  May 31, 2018 2:30pm-3:01pm EDT

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he is not willing to consider that kind of a smaller compromise arrangement sure it is so it does look this this is heading for some kind of failure and i suspect both sides are planning to maneuver to such a degree they can blame the other person i suspect this is what trumps up to i can't see any other way forward for him really ok well look it's a case of waiting in tellingly i'm sort altogether sure ok dan look we're going to leave there that are always nice to talk to you good to get your insight there was political analyst down at least but thankfully. now the european court of human rights has ruled lithuania and remain you took part in the cia's program of secret detention centers and also violated the probation on top by helping the agency with the interrogation of two al qaeda suspects both countries have been ordered to pay the men one hundred thousand euros each in compensation one of the suspects was according to the cia a key al qaeda figure no charges were brought against him as part of his interrogation he was water boarded eighty three times it said he lost his left eye
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during cia torture the other detainee was also subjected to the agency's in hans interrogation program according to the cia he led al-qaeda is gulf region operations but both are still held in the notorious guantanamo bay prison the hearings revealed the conditions under which the two suspects were kept peter oliver has more. there had been held in these facilities and the domestic authorities had been aware that the cia would subject them to treatment contrary to the convention now what we have heard is a little bit about the conditions in which they were kept in lithuanian site we're getting a little bit of a glimpse into what was going on there and how prisoners were held up this this hearing no it prisoners were kept in blindfolded all time they were put in solitary confinement and they were forced to wear leg shackles at all times as a beta gave an account of what was done to him while he was in detention must warn
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viewers that this clip comes a company with some of the bed his own sketches that have been released as part of a freedom of information request some viewers may find them disturbing they unchained my hands from the bars and chained them with short chains to the chains that were around my legs which kept me in a bowing position at all times they brutally dragged me to the cement wall he started brutally banging my head in my back against the wall i felt my back was breaking due to the intensity of the banging he started slapping my face again and again meanwhile he was yelling and then he pointed to a large black wooden box that looked like a wooden casket he says from now on this is going to be your home he violently closed the door i heard the sound of the lock i found myself in total darkness. we saw a few of them accompanying that clip just there but the sketches are made well they really paynter very disturbing picture quite literally of the conditions in which
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he was being kept the two men are currently being held in guantanamo bay now since the detention facility opened there in two thousand and two it's been open to prisoners scandals over abuse now the current u.s. president donald trump e supports that you solve waterboarding he said it many times however this is something that well the rest of the world pretty much considers torture when diana marbury which by the way which by the way we are keeping open which we are keeping . and we're going to load it up with some beer dude split we're going to load it up feel strongly about waterboarding as far as i'm concerned we have the photo with in fact donald trump doubled down in his support for waterboarding as he promoted the woman who is in charge of the cia black sites to the top job in that agency gina hospital who's well referred to by her detractors in the media particularly here in
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germany as either the torture queen or bloody gina well she took over as the new cia director earlier this month. peter all of it i want to get the thoughts now of a former u.k. and bassett and human rights activist craig morrey he joins us now good afternoon. what are your thoughts then on this story because i suppose people might say well good you know these guys have now got compensation but we shouldn't lose sight of the fact they are still in guantanamo. without charges against them. yes i mean they are among a number of people whose lives have been put into limbo who have never been proven to have done anything wrong to a criminal standard who has no attempt to bring them to any kind of proper and open trial and who have suffered the most tremendous terrible torture and abuse organized by be united states and its allies and. yes it's good but there's some deck ignition by the courts but it's
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a very strange situation you have visa gentlemen you have mr bell had to in the u.k. the courts are prepared to handle it totally and you know millions of dollars in compensation of taxpayers' money to people and what they're not doing is putting in of the perpetrators in prison and nobody has been convicted and jailed for this torture. and just very briefly craig i mean when we look at what donald trump is saying it's not as if people are moving away from torture many people are actually happy you know waterboarding etc is fine. it's very alarming obviously the promotion of a new head of the cia and trumps general comments often you have to aim off what donald trump says because he spends months and c. has no intention of actually following through sometimes on torture there's no indication that the united states has actually stopped doing it the most important
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thing you know just what i took out of my personal long term experience of intelligence analysis of the subject is the torture doesn't give you good intelligence of the person being tortured will say anything will make the pain stop and what they say is very seldom the truth that they say whatever the torture they're wants to hear it is of no intelligence value whatsoever it's a crime and i'm happy at least that there's now some more formal definition but it didn't. has happened and the united states really has done this but what we need to see is the perpetrators who have broken perpetrators in particular crime of torture being brought to justice ok craig look we've got to leave it there it's always nice told you that was former u.k. ambassador and human rights activist craig murray thank you. now here for staged the murder of the stage murder of russian opposition reporter gets less than glowing reaction in the west we'll have a look at that story for service to just after the break.
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because the government would like to take the money i pay taxes and people defenseless people overseas and spend trillions of dollars they then come back and they tax me again something called obamacare they tax me again to provide health services that they say they're providing for people can't afford health care now here's my one simple question send the dollars a year. to offset the government's. ability to fulfill their required. why can't i write that off as a charitable donation on my taxes. so what we've got to do is identify the threats that we have it's crazy. let it be an
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arms race. spearing dramatic development the only move really. i don't see how that strategy will be successful very critical time to sit down and talk. again our journalists have ranted on the ukrainian authorities for faking the assassination of a russian opposition reporter in kiev. the journalist in question has responded to one article in the british media slamming ukraine's action the article claimed the fake murder did more harm than good he left a comment on his own facebook page addressing the british press and using offensive language he said if the press wants more good than harm then give him a british passport and protection meanwhile other international security watchdogs have also slammed the stunt is to probable and regrettable.
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the staged murder of journalists are crazy bumps in could by the ukrainian security service is distressing well the reappearance of the reporter may be a great relief it is deeply regrettable the crane's authorities who played with the truth no matter what the motive relieved that are currently bub chinky was alive i deplore the decision to spread false information on the life of a journalist it is the duty of the state to provide correct information to the public when the story began when ukrainian authorities claimed they had found go with gunshot wounds at his flat in the capital and said he had died on his way to hospital however less than twenty four hours later it was revealed the murder had been staged ukrainian security forces claim they had done it in order to foil an actual russian plot to kill the journalist party's done cause reports now on the for lack in the controversial case. when a russian journalist was pronounced murdered in the ukrainian capital it didn't
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take long for the ceremonial finger pointing at russia to begin he was only working on things that were critical and investigative of russia and of the russian government as well he said there was nothing that was critical of ukrainians of course that network and its boss placing the blame on the kremlin and on russia journalist known political leanings have led some to point the finger in one direction it was a calculated deliberate international terrorist crime committed on the direct instruction of the russian authorities who can blame them when the story has all the perfect ingredients the russian totalitarian machine putin's regime going after the kremlin critic except the guy turned up alive and well a magic in everyone's confusion what on earth is showing on fred all of these developments in just the last hour or so i know that absolutely gobsmacked was second so what the heck actually have been here russia said it was relieved that our cause alive but also fiore us and understandably so after being falsely accused
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of murder questions of life and death in ukraine as well as the international community's trust in its politics are not thing more than a bargaining chip for the kids regime to stir up on t.v. russian hysteria fellow journalists were outraged too when a state says a prominent journalist who had received threats was murdered i think the media have to report it but with the fake news in ukraine have reduced all of our credibility trump would be proud had learned not to trust ukrainian authorities on don't best warrant but assuming something like this fishel confirmation was solid apologies it's on wikipedia's most notable fake death so what gives while the murder was staged by the ukrainian secret service to foil an alleged kremlin plot they say they did it secretly not even his wife knew imagine what the poor woman went through. but one ukrainian lawmaker thinks this is ok because sherlock holmes
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successfully used the method of staging his own death to effectively investigate difficult and complicated crimes well if it happened in fiction must be good in real life till whether ukraine or produce evidence that there was ever a russian plot in the first place remains to be seen but after a stunt like this it's hard to imagine many will take anything at face value the taming is key i think just before we start the world cup in russia which is a shock us event for any country that halts all cut there or sort of cut and suddenly we're getting the story switches does that which are designed i would speculate to discredit russia and discredit russia and i was of the world just as a supposed to horst the wall clock and sure this is a very elemental campaign it's been targeting russia because it's no interfering in areas in which all nations in the past understood that they are off limits when it comes to using them for propaganda purposes such as trying to use the world cup to
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undermine the horse nation that does nor good to anyone especially at a time when we need to try and form an understanding. now a new artificial intelligence two created by the university of southern california could potentially predict if a protest is going to turn violent by analyzing social media activity the program analyzed eighteen million twitter posts for more alights language during the twenty fifteen protests against police brutality in the u.s. city of baltimore it turns out there was a correlation to between the number of arrests and the use of this kind of language and moralize tweets double just prior to the violent protests and a i told text phrases evoking more nations such as care fairness and loyalty is an example of it in action. why does the opposition speak only bob black on black crime as a rebuttal to police brutality all murder all crime matches right. regardless of
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how anyone feels pressed to the police force in the family. well in another study scientists polled around two hundred people on whether they condoned the use of violence during clashes last year in the u.s. cities charlottesville with the removal of confederate monuments and they found that people were more likely to support the use of violence if there's shit that you see. teachers grayskull police violence that process is just the tip of the iceberg when it comes to what artificial intelligence will eventually be able to predict but i think we're going to see more of this sort of predictive analytic behavior from ai in the future as ai develops so for example there is a new study that came out in front two years in human neuro science that shows that ai can predict behavior and traits just by looking at people dilation and eye
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movements so what's happening is that date we have more data points from social media but also from just the fact that we're quantifying ourselves and quantifying our society we have more data points and so the ai will be able to use that that set of data those data points to predict our behaviors and that's really the key in the story is is will the machines of the future be able to predict our behaviors before we even know what we're thinking and i think the answer is yes. let's have an easy looking so far coming up next is our exclusive interview in full with the syrian president bashar al assad.
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well you know the fires they were kind of adopted because we were called pirates for so long. i mean they're in this small ball of sticks you don't harp on ships and you stand. up and. kill them all self to be told fish already ninety percent of the dark on any poll on the continent. concept fifteen scoops seventy five tons true and they do it several times a day with the big cleats you know you get an idea on why the ocean which. we have to understand we could not stay still would just. be witness to the deal going to the arms. i'm doing this because i want them for the future
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world to future generations to have and enjoy the ocean we have. some of the europe must be much stronger in making the decision at twenty eight can we around the table agree on tough measures on these or china always or us in the end of the unfortunately easy answer to that so far is not truly europe is being too weak and that's why we end up being beaten on the head some time by the chinese some time as the american un does god to stop. the.
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this is the president thank you very much for inviting this year for giving this opportunity mr president should. first question you need just victories in good in yet a move they have drastically changed the situation on the ground in syria how much nearer the end of this war are we now in your estimation for all your mortal comes here. with every move forward in the battlefield with every victory with every liberal liberated we are moving closer the closer to the end of the conflict and all with it without external interference it won't take more than a year to settle the situation in syria but at the same time with every move forward for the syrian army and for the political process and for the whole situation forward in the positive meaning toward the most ability. or any means.
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opponents mainly the with the by the united states and their puppets in europe and in our region would be mercenaries in syria they try to make it fall. by supporting more terrorism bring in more terrorists coming to thier war by him during the political process so our challenge is how can we make this go up to close this gap between their plans and our plans and i think we are succeeding in that regard but at the same time of course for you no one could tell you when but it is getting closer that's evident well you lead this military victories they have being objective these big. spectacular the speed at which rebel defenses of the wood stood for years of collapsed you planning on retaking all of syria by
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force we're talking about libby the border with israel as the controlled territories. but the war is the worst the truth. i think everything in agree on this fact but sometimes you only have this choice especially when you talk about factions like. like like. and the like minded factions actually most of them have the same ideology the heart charm and so on. they're not ready for india they don't have any political plan they only have this dark ideological blair is that to be like any controlled area anywhere in in this world the only option to deal with both factions is force. at the same time in other areas we succeeded by
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implementing the conciliation especially when the community in those different areas made pressure on those militants to leave the area so i think the best the choice is to make the conservation this is all but when it doesn't work the only resort to is the force with regards to we can see lesion how wise is it to send all of these veterans your hardest with this small arms to with by now tens of thousands of tens of thousands of gone gone they have consolidated they have built defenses eventually as you say you will have to fight them on the other hand you perhaps planning on building an area that is outside of government control. you all of he would want to leave it so it's impossible for us to to intentionally leave any. on the syrian. controlled us government this is
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the natural and as you know it was captured by the. dearth. in fifteen with the turkey supports. it was it was mainly captured by a muscle and some of the supportive factions without the very cause issues before that but every conservation happened after that time after two thousand and fifteen it was i think may two thousand and fifteen every faction what the to leave. the city or the village they choose to go to egypt. this is a very good indication that. they have the same ideology could be good did you have to go to any other area so we didn't think people do it would they want to go to it live because they have the same you could beat or they have the same atmosphere way
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of thinking and so on this one. the other part which is military speak of that of your question the plan of the terrorists and their masters was to destroy the syrian army by scattering the different units all over the syrian border which is not good for any army or plan was to put them in one where you have three areas if you if you have two or three or four four two you've beter than having been in maybe more than one hundred forty of the think that so militarily it is better they chose it but it's better for us from the military point of view on the other hand talking about similar mindsets it is predominantly the rebels the overwhelming sunni. the sunni myself i have a long distant relative who. came to syria to fight against you to resist you
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because he was told that you would target you were killing soon and that is what many people. believe why is it that so many people in all these different countries in america in russia these sunni's these muslims they believe that you are oppressing because the first thought of when you thought i had interned internationally mainly in the with of course. within syria when in some mainstream media in our region and in the with. their plan was to create this rift within the society that we make things easier for them when you have such a civil war kind of civil war between thanks or if this city and the. now they keep using the same narrative at least to encourage some that it takes in different places in the world to come and defend their brothers in this area because that's how with the imagine imagine that this conflict between faith it's all because of
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the. minded way of thinking. maybe. they came here just to support her father to know if i'm going to debut this is right or wrong your audience doesn't know if it doesn't know me the they don't have any idea maybe about like the beauty of the new you know theory of it away it's better to go and see the reality on the ground now. that you know to to validity in reality. thick skin in another state syria should be divided now according to security and light you should come to visit under our control and see one color or a few colors of the syrian society you have to go to the other where you have the terrorist you should have different colors and the reality is not like with now in damascus in early pour in homes in. every area under the theory and the
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syrian government controlled you would see every spectrum of the syrian society with no exceptions so that this reality will debunk this narrative. how could they live with each other why the government is killing them according to sectarian. base if he doesn't talk. there enough but with regards to. the reconciliation. talks of there have been efforts to start talks to achieve a result in geneva in as the now there has been limited success but it is been hasn't been all that great now let's be honest you're winning you're winning on the ground your forces are advance of the rebels are in retreat why would june negotiate with them now that they're losing. the very beginning we think whenever
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we can fifth theory and blow through we have to go. ford and they would be in it with any initiative any kind of initiative even if you if they have bad will some people some some initiative have have bad will but in spite of that we did with the reality now if you go around theory of the reality the results. that's been embodied by. very conservations is a proof of what i'm saying with this policy with this intention of having blood negotiating talking to people we couldn't have reached this ican seditions. this is one thing and the other thing not everyone for the government have the same basic some of them have ideological background some of them poor financial background some of them they made me think of the very beginning they were forced to go in that direction and they couldn't with a do so you have to open the doors and you have to distinguish between different
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kind of people and the most important than the unity of the people who were against the government again the government in the different debilitated area actually in their heart they are with the government could be the because they are the difference between having government and having chaos with regards to talks and you know retaking areas by force let's take for example is the have controlled territories in there is or there have been clashes there between troops who were loyal to you and the s.d.f. itself he lied to his partners and the united states brought to bear force to stop the troops will to you from taking territories this is happened as well how are you going to deal with the united states presence military presence in syria. after that the bishop of aleppo and later it is the war and before that hans now the man
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could actually united states is losing his skull. they're being called worth. that was called moderate but when the scandal started leaking that they're not more that they are that was supposed to be followed by you know it's these they look for another card this card if now because when as it seems as you just mentioned we are moving forward in the different areas to defeat the terrorist the only problem lift in syria is the we're going to do that by two option the first one we started now opening doors for negotiations the majority of them are syrians. supposedly they like their country. the don't like to be puppets to any foreigner that what we supposed so we have the same basis. we all don't trust the americans for decades because of the war but the only thing thing and they do the opposite the.
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daily life is so we have one option is to live with the childbirth even though they fought over this the first option if not we're going to thought to leave it in by force. by force we don't have any other options with american or without americans we don't have any other option so this is all learnt it's all right and it's a duty to liberated and the american should leave somehow they're going to leave they came to you a lot with no legal pieces and look what happened to them they have to learn that lesson good luck is no exception and syria is no exception people will not accept foreign of them this week in any. form manner sitting in a car when the feds get shot in the head.

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