we're blessed again with great facilities so having an area dedicated to block or fabrication building for ships an area in our mean dry dock with our two koreans something to live to actually assemble large scale turbines which we're doing at the moment the job we're doing for scottish power on their offshore wind farm in east anglia one where sampling it hundred thousand tons of steel into finished jackets and putting that out in a space of a point nine months so that's the skill and the ability that we have but the problem is after that's finished there's no continuity of work so having the allied that work coming and decide that allies us to keep and mentee and skills running through the yard and you can certainly put the size of offshore turbines is going to get larger much love to them which will bring you sort of space and capacity and deplete it very much so and we're seeing it already you see turbine sizes and i pushing ten megawatts on going beyond that so the infrastructure is not necessarily

there within the u.k. i mean about the plaintiff a community launching a ship i will tell you get the same satisfaction of launching a short talk by those as a so we really special about launching a ship i have to say alex that i am still a child at heart when the korean passed my window with a three or four hundred ton piece of steel attached of that i still have to stop and look at it and in all this going together there was nothing that beats the launching of a ship i'm a bit too young i'm afraid to remember any of the slipway launches that we would have had and were famous in the past there's something about the job satisfaction of role play its role still coming in and six seven nine ten months later for that actually to become a ship and see it sail away down belfast loch you know whenever by some my daughter to arrive says you know what do you do or you know when you look at that sailing away you go i built that with a little bit of help. the odds what force of course would be to mend the sli

enthused by the time to ship building high but that the city of belfast and the community and no amount as a whole i think belfast is almost unique in its ship building terms that partly because of geography and partly because of topographic in terms of the shipyards right in the center of belfast belfast being in a valley you can see the shipyard in the koreans from it are ten miles away so it's always been at the center we are by no means that the me and employer in belfast anymore as we once were but there is still a lot in hair and history and pride with them belfast you only need to travel to a bar or restaurant or a shop and you'll see the iconic iconic pictures of samson or goliath and all the wonderful ships that we would have built over the years there is a real inherent sense of pride around what we do in belfast and i think a big part of my job is trying to reinstill that again not just with the levels of employment but also the people want to actually come and be attracted to work in an industry such as ours so in the in the three. ship building in northern ireland

sunrise or sunset and distance well i would have taken on this job if i believed it was a sunset in st i think some rice is there but i can't build you know how what i can do the job that is offered and i like salmon quick well i'm very pleased to accept a lot of thank you so much many fights for big you know the drill of course i do indeed i've only scotts none of the well i may have to bring up being a northern irishman i may have to put a little bit of bushmills into a plank you that's very acceptable. now coming up after the break we talked to a former mayor of belfast as to what it would mean to the city and its communities if holland wolf to stop building ships again. apply for many clubs over the years so i know the game and so i got. the ball isn't

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welcome buck we've heard of the plans for a revival of ship building a new wolf joining me from belfast is not a mile and a certain women and the leader of the social democratic and labor party nicol a mile and they can welcome to the alex some i'm sure thank you but as a former lord mayor of bill first tell us hope portland is the to the city if ship building were to the stuff to get them in the moment well belfast is the economic driver of northern ireland and it's critically important i think given our heritage our history our skills and capacity that we see

a revival in terms of ship building but also as we have seen a difference in the kitchen in terms of engineering when it comes to securing contracts for example with oil rigs or with when turbines or in refitting cruise ships so it's a very exciting time in terms of engineering and maritime fast i'm really excited about the twenty planes samson and goliath almost some of the goliath dogman the belfast skyline emphasize the position of belfast in the amount of time city well as you say alex something and goliath are iconic obviously for people who have lived through the shipyard experience it can mean a number of different things but certainly for our younger generation and for tourists it's extremely positive it's iconic when you fly into belfast whether as a visitor or when you're returning home it gives you a real sense of reassurance when you see it across the skyline it's a constant and

a very fast changing society and certainly for me i believe that samson represent the true mettle of belfast they stand tall and they stand strong pride in the fierce of everything. in this he would be hard to move perhaps some of the imp. practices. had a darker side to them tell us about that or well certainly as a result of employment practices the shipyard was in many ways a cold heise for catholics nationalist it operated an internal market for employment so essentially your right of passage was three your family ties so if your grandfather or your grandfather worked in the shipyard then it was highly likely that you would also work in the shipyard too but those days thankfully are long gone with far employment practices and legislation and we're a very different place now i know you have

a lot of male of the bell for us shortly after the the opening of the great titanic exhibition tell us about the enthusiasm of the success of the exhibition has been greeted with well the titanic exhibition is a global landmark i think this year we have seen well over six hundred thousand visitors and we are delighted and extremely pride that we haven't bravest that maritime history and that we are proudly show kissing that to visitors from right around the world but as well as the titanic exhibition center the titanic quarter in which it is situated is a wonderfully transformed spirits for me it's a bite where the past meets the present and really points to the future and it's a place of great celebration and regeneration with festivals are people from all across belfast and further afield from right across the world to gather there and we just celebrate diversity and culture and it really is a truly wonderful space which here are immensely prides shipbuilding traditionally

has been thought of as very much or a male dominated industry we've got the prospects of the for for young women coming through when the ships roll off the the belfast jetty again. well i think that if you look right across the city of belfast and right across northern ireland you'll see that. women are very much at the forefront when i was the lord mayor as you say it was the first time that we had female lord mare deputy lord mare high sheriff and chief executive of belfast city council yes that took us a long time to get there but women are increasingly at the forefront of engineering we have real exciting growth in terms of technology and design industries here and again women are very much at the forefront of that and so i very much look forward to see a nice diversified grow our industries and i am confident that women will be at the forefront of all of that but as the plans come to fruition will you invite me over to see the ship rolling down the ship with for more than

a decade i will of course and more than that i will take you alex to sailors time which has a very strong dockers community sadly we have lost many of our dockers but there are children and their grandchildren are determined to keep that maritime history of those social connections and those stories alive i might even treat it to west in the doctor's club about the scotch whisky. oh no i don't have to be an irish one are it's fun alex recently the humble for being concentrated on building the steel structures for mother to him to see born with brains which is obviously of the expanding in a very very productive industry but you can't get the same sense of excitement and launching a wind turbine as you as you can launch your great ship would you agree. but i think that if you look at it in take the wind turbine example it's a by boat in on our experience here in belfast in that engineering capacity and engineer day yes it doesn't give the same excitement as launching

a great ship but where we have captured the excitement is in the tourism offering with the titanic exhibition center and every day there are very exciting events going on around the titanic quarter so why we mightn't have the excitement and the enthusiasm of launching ships there are many many other ways where we are doing things that are just as exciting. the job of people like me is to be selling that just saying that it is developing a much more diversified economic base both within the. itself but of course not about as a whole what industries we jews dead define as holding the key to the future well i think terrorism we have a wonderful terrorism offering not just when it comes to morrow time but right across we have some of the most beautiful and i say that objectivity some of those beautiful scenery we have the giant's causeway for example one of the wonders of the word is there's also really exciting things happening when it comes to start up technologies and design companies and i really think as we watch that and the

development of green technologies we will we will see northern ireland take its place on the global stage it's ship building in northern ireland a sunset for a sunrise industry. but i think we realize that we can't go back to a point or place in the past belfast is very much a forward look and say just earlier this year a company in nury j.-m. group they secured a multi-million pined contract to refect a luxury caribbean craze we have secured good strong contracts when it comes to wind turbines to oil rigs and i'm confident that we're going to see many more contracts going forward but alex belfast is a set a warrior is perpetual sunrise for us the sun is always shining and they can send me across a quick two to hold up whiskey you've been probably. i look forward to it alex thank you for joining us on the show my pleasure. so plenty of support

for revival in the world but shipbuilding as a whole has never been shocked of what going through there isn't even the red leather benches of the house of lords the drumbeat of support has been sounding forth in favor of the report by some john parker this is a strategy for industry as much as for government delivering these new ships means that we need a strong ship building sector as part of a wider marine engineering sector that includes the shipyards their suppliers those that manufacture and support the put for the ships and the skilled workers that support these companies industry and the trade unions were involved as we develop the strategy and i would like to thank them too for their contribution hold any day in the government says it intends to order new warships is by definition a very good day but my fifty two years in the navy of maybe realize that until you

actually stand on the quarter deck of the ship you have an office month old. whenever i see the words ambitious vision in reference to defense expenditure i'm afraid my skepticism is a room just because like several of the chamber including the new home of the old king i remember the days when we were promised about fifty surface ships and that's a promise that was never actually fulfilled but it may surprise some people also i i welcome today's announcement i would welcome any increase in armed forces capability but as long council has suggested one is properly fearful of not just the cost but the opportunity cost of this in hardest maritime capability and i hope it is genuinely and it helps maritime capability. costs always rise i recall in the defense board in two thousand and seven the two aircraft carriers were voted in it three. point six billion for not

costing six point two billion. just for the case of the house of lords or be mourning the fall of british ship building but expressing hope for the future. high cost port and just a relations and a lack of capital investment have all been targeted as explanations for the fall of the british ship voting for other high cost locations such as norway perkel secured all institution parts of the industry while the world market for commercial ship building continues to expand successive u.k. government saw the end of ship building as inevitable and had no industrial strategy to rest as to quite a policy instruments to place it on an even keel with its international competition now that is a strategy in the shape of sir john parker report but there are serious doubts if the wish and the will exists to carry it through. in the midst of british voters there are half a dozen u.k.

yards listed as still building ships and no less than thirty listed as defunct. does it remain a significant forces i concentrated on building for one customer the british public and for one industry defense however the plan to use a defense or to because a base for expansion depends on the junk beats of military orders as you heard her last week show the workers believe that only a full scale campaign can win the day. collins and go for one of the iconic names of the industry's past it would be entirely fitting if they can be a part of a brighter future next week we're going to the never quite for exams the prospects of another ship boating phoenix emerging from the ashes but sights of receivership in twenty fourteen ferguson scotland's last commercial step both on the lower quite is also planning a revival and the last of our series on shipbuilding we talk to the management and workforce planning the show bible join us then but for now from all of us here at

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was foreign minister meets the north korean leader artie's given exclusive images from inside the assembly level have been taking place. in other news the european court of human rights rules that hundred mania were complicit in the. terror suspects in the cia's program of secret detention centers . for journalists worldwide to vent their anger at ukraine for staging the murder of russian opposition journalists. plus the u.s. the e.u. and other allies with hefty tyrus an aluminum and steel imports claiming it won't affect relations they'll get a. very

good evening. this is r.t. international. the russian foreign minister has met with north korean leader kim jong. un prepares for a possible historic peace summit with south korea and the united states. warned that the peace process remains fragile. regarding sanctions it's completely obvious that when we start talking about the nuclear issue and other issues on the korean peninsula it's with the understanding that nothing can happen with sanctions still in place how that's going to be achieved is another question a matter of the art of the gauche issues but it can't be done in one go just like denuclearization can't that is why there have to be stages in progress at each stage. and lover of didn't arrive in north korea and he handed he had

a small present russian keep safe box. that was just it also has a key you can look away some secret stuff. the top diplomat also invited came to russia and passed on a message from vladimir putin in response to north korean leader warm greetings to the president correspondingly betraying has been following the meeting in pyongyang and got exclusive images from inside north korea. well these are first that the democratic people's republic we have. just departed and we're going to follow him right now. we just left the airport and we're trying to catch up with turkey. but we seem to be a bit far behind or on the way to the capital yet.

this is a truly incredible for sure the worst film inside the place where most of hi paul polman things in north korea happened just as the russian foreign minister sergei lavrov is talking to his north korean counterpart behind closed doors right there. at the moment when the washing top diplomat is n.p.r. is absolutely unique on the one. and the resolution of the korean peninsula crisis might be just a few steps away with the massive concessions the north and the south have both been making and even donald to however we understand that any moves can make everything collapse. so the question is why exactly. and up in the north the top little russian

diplomatic sources suggest that it was there are several indications in a row by mr park during his visit to moscow. we were also told that the north korean side wanted the trip to happen asap during a traditional way chat with the journalists on the plane when we asked surrogate lopper of why this was happening and what to expect of the visit his answer was well just have to see i don't know for now. political analyst joseph chang believes that the step by step approach to negotiations suggested by moscow is the only reasonable way to settle the crisis. the negotiations process has to proceed in a reasonable rational manner in view of the demand on the part of the united states that the deed new career process has to be complete very fireball and the

verse of all day is obviously a symmetry in the american demands and the. demands of from an young soul the russian foreign minister is by using a kind of step by step or stage by stage a kind of negotiation process which is obviously rational since it is rather difficult to works to achieve to secure a complete arrangement in one goal. the european court of human rights has ruled this u.a. india and remaining took part in the cia's program of secret detention centers and that they also violated the prohibition on torture by helping the agency with the interrogation of two al qaeda suspects both countries have been ordered to pay those men one hundred thousand euros each in compensation one of the suspects was according to the cia a key al qaeda figure no charges were brought against him as part of his

interrogation he was water boarded eighty three times and said he lost his left eye during cia torture in his diary he documented tortures he was subjected to and even sketched them in detail for the detainee also face the agency's enhanced interrogation program and according to the cia he does gulf region operations both still held in the notorious guantanamo bay prison hearings revealed the conditions under which the two suspects were kept. there had been held in these facilities and the domestic authorities had been aware that the cia would subject them to treatment contrary to the convention now what we have heard is a little bit about the conditions in which they were kept in lithuanian site we're getting a little bit of a glimpse into what was going on there and how prisoners were held up this this hearing no it prisoners were kept in blindfolded all time they were put in solitary confinement and they were forced to wear leg shackles at all times as

a beta gave an account of what was done to him while he was in detention must warn viewers that this clip comes a company with some of the bed his own sketches that have been released as part of a freedom of information request some viewers may find them disturbing they unchained my hands from the bars and chained them with short chains to the chains that were around my legs which kept me in a bowing position at all times they brutally dragged me to the cement wall he started brutally banging my head and my back against the wall i felt my back was breaking due to the intensity of the banging he started slapping my face again and again meanwhile he was yelling and then he pointed to a large black wooden box that looked like a wooden casket he says from now on this is going to be your home he violently closed the door i heard the sound of the lock i found myself in total darkness. we saw a few of them accompanying that clip just there but the sketches zubaida made well

they really paint a very disturbing picture quite literally of the conditions in which he was being kept the two men are currently being held in guantanamo bay now since the detention facility opened there in two thousand and two it's been open to prisoners scandals over abuse now the current u.s. president donald trump peace supports the you solve waterboarding he said it many times however this is something that well the rest of the world pretty much considers torture when diana marbury which by the way which by the way we are keeping open which we are keeping. and we're going to load it up with some beer dude split we're going to load it up would i feel strongly about waterboarding as far as i'm concerned we have to fight fire with in fact donald trump doubled down in his support for waterboarding as he promoted the woman who is in charge of the cia black sites to the top job in that agency gina hospital who's well referred to

by her detractors in the media particularly here in germany as either the torture queen or bloody gina while she took over as the new cia director earlier this month the u.n. is says that it may appeal the ruling we discuss the case with former guantanamo bay prison a muslim begg now outreach director for rights organization k h. the reality is that these are war crimes and he was prosecuted for this and nobody will be prosecuted no matter how many accomplices and it's important call them that were involved that states in the cia senate talk report torture report there are one hundred one thousand pieces mention so imagine the lawsuits that would one after the other come and be filed against us they don't have to prosecute the entire bush administration and beyond and of course that's probably not going to be possible there's a series here you've got. four presidents essentially that are all ruled america

run america what's the torture program has either gone gone on or has been allowed to get away with it and because there's no prosecutions the new president can come along and say i believe torture works a lot more waterboarding is a great thing because there is not precedent if it is in prosecuted for the crime that it is a war crime then he would never dare say such a thing so imagine if that somebody from sub-saharan africa said that we also thought. it was a we. all were doing its activities in our country imagine what would happen if they said that and indorsed. journalists have rounded on the ukrainian or for a tease for faking the assassination of a russian opposition reporter in care of a cut above chunk of the journalist in question has responded to one article in the british media slamming ukraine's action article claimed that the fake murder did more harm than good he left a comment on his own fate.