bernie's together if i had this kind of behavior by china and i have or by russia we need to react the same way as my discourse is not specific to me and to us it's an t's a weakness of europe but i think it's not only the european union that is suffering from kind of treatment by the united states i think there are lots of grievances in russia there are also grievances in china and as you mentioned before europe was able to put forth a blocking law it also did that in concert with other countries for example ninety five there was also the u.k. mexico canada that passed similar legislation what are the chances of putting together such a call listen at this point of time not just the european unity but the european union joining forces with other countries who may be unhappy about the american practices. saul's of you know i'm not i'm not in charge at the

moment so i absolutely don't have going for i don't know what is going on in the in the corridors of the european council so i don't think we have the end of the story. clearly that the meetings between the ministers have been talking . they've been talking to russians i'm sure by them all discuss it with president putin in simple terms will we have to try and find a way to at least keep the agreement with iran together because it is important for strategic reasons so you do actually put your bags on the european union actually having some skill in the will to resist so because i also was look it's going to be very bad because the european union is now going through several crisis at the same time if at the same time we're not able to tell the american. you you know. do this we need to be respected then the crisis in europe we continue

to escalate and you can start worrying about the future of the organisation i do the only way we are going to convince el voters next year we have a european elections that this whole thing deserved to reprotect it and i believe it deserves what it did but the only way you're going to convince people is that makes it's relevant right you can put the ball goes against migrants you can put take europe against american or chinese behavior you can have a party that you russia and ukraine don't go really so yes you need to beef up what's supposed to be the european union message of this we have to take a very short break now but we will come back in just a few moments. well

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world to future generations to have and enjoy the ocean we. welcome back to worlds apart from n.p.r. and lucia former french state secretary of state for foreign trade mr lives just before the break we started talking about whether or not the european union can muster enough will power its you stand up for itself and you know we had

a former obama administration official in charge of the show just a short while ago and as much as he wanted to protect the iranian deal he was absolutely convinced that the europeans. i have no choice but to come along and support the united states and that and incidentally that happens to be the opinion of the majority of the russian experts who also believe that you know the europeans may sound indignant for a while but at the end of the day they will do what's required of them i mean missing something fundamental about the europeans and their ability you know to stand up for themselves for their rights for their interests i don't know many things have changed since one thousand nine hundred sixty even the ownership of many of the european companies but nobody is asian and so you have all kinds of interests in the shell of the american interests and so on which make it more difficult for governments to a private company to do with the do when you have

a union that was traded twenty eight countries it's much harder to make decisions zero here is. that this is a major political problem not it is not just a question of the strategic consequences on the ground it's not only the impact on the companies it is the impact on now so from what is a point saying that i am an independent country or an independent european union if i have to submit to what mr pompeo says the hardest sanction in history. decided by him if if we don't give a collective thing. on sudan or whatever or ukraine because of the behavior of russia ukraine and its collective. and there isn't a political agreement that this is the right policy that's one thing but if ses move along good agreement then we should be able to say look we don't agree taking

a back to the issue of terrorists when trump extended this latest exemption and we're speaking just on the eve of him deciding whether or not tariffs are going to be applied to the european companies once this latest exemption was granted the european commission issued a whole statement that they will not negotiate under threat but just this week the news came that the german finance minister is going to meet with the european commission trade representative and damn america to discuss this tariff specifically and what i want to ask you is whether you believe in principle it's a good idea for the europeans to ask for individual concessions rather than trying to push against what you i think quite rightly termed the us legal imperialism in other words should they be asking for a privilege or should they be asking for rules that are commonly applied to everybody no no it's not mix issues the the what you just talked about this

terrorist trade and. we. have different terrorists with different countries the issue is is more fundamentally was a respectful national sovereignty or not and it's not turning point if we miss a point and. i'm not capable to show we must be respected then i think it would be a very deadly who for the future of the u.s. but mr bush when you say i agree with you that terrorising individual but at the same time for example the other day c.n.n. wrote an article suggesting that the way china can deal with its trade deficit trade imbalance with the united states is by reorienting its. imports from the european union so let's say the united states still buying airbus and by boeing and that's not its individual but it's also relevant to your interests in

a pretty direct way you mentioned your grievances against china before. and i think that makes and i only want to give and disney if i were russian i would be much not as a little more worried my my question is more about whether this issue should be decided on a quid pro quo basis or indeed whether there is a common valley in trying to come up with some common approach because you know it could be argued that the union the european union has never said a word when russia or even china was treated unfairly by the united states if the european union now experiences a problem should when anyone really concerned i did let you say unfairly is because of political problems. and i and i and i want to help resolve this political problem but i need just on the russian side as the west nothing is happening and we

have this sort of at the center of every six months and it's a lose lose situation i've told him is the level of this morning you know how do we get out of the books nobody wants to isolate russia certainly not fronts so let's get out of it show us how we get out of this ukrainian mess i thought i didn't know it's we who have to show you how i don't know i didn't go into ukraine you did so we're going to we're going to fix this ok so this goal and it only russia that has to fix it for everybody involved quite agreed everybody has to make gestures but people are waiting because the things on the. two. on the path of washing the level of those that used to live didn't know that and to just get out of here is one kind of gesture tell tell me what kind of gesture is progression me only just a very simple we need to see. move movements of troops out. there if there's not a engine they don't need the mentoring i mean they say if you don't want to get

into this at this point there is a series of steps to be taken by all sides. i think it's very important for two shows a way and then to process stuff and if that treatment the unfair treatment you're talking about is linked to a political situation which i find quite different from zero rest of the issue of trade what i meant by unfair treatment is not only sanctions related to the ukrainian case for example i'm sure you know that one of our biggest companies who saw it was just sanctioned by the americans and nobody actually knows what for i mean it's supposedly related to their latched interference in the elections but those reasons have never been really laid out i think this accumulation on sanctions on russia is not exactly a good idea frankly i think the hysteria thing on going back to the cold war is not a good idea and we should deescalate all this but whether there was an interference

in the u.s. election i think if you look at the f.b.i. report it's very easy if you look at their very worst i think it would not have really basic academic rate here of you know i don't know i have read it university thesis and you really think it's a serious piece of work you know american police and judges they do their job is it a major interference in the election of course not was there an indifference most likely. the russians alone to interfere of course not so. is this a reason to escalate this into a new cold war and a whole wall of sanction probably not. we should think this seems to me with a little bit of wisdom now i do not believe that this habit of of heating on the head people with sanctions all the time is necessarily the best way to move them except i'm serious issues ukraine today says now let me ask

you because there was a change of the. both of those since the war and there was a nine hundred ninety you don't do these things you don't want to see it was a goal of. this illusion and i really do not want to get them to. i mean when france interfere is in countries like libya for example or even in syria it never for some reason things about you know doing those matters in quite the same terms but let's not get into that because i want to really did libya's sons of his military leave it was a sovereign state and did you hear me say that this was a wonderful idea now but i mean if. this thing the international community everybody will you cannot demand russia to be you know holier than the pope when other countries behave in that and i'm not trying to sound the college ethically but i think it's a valid discussion about it is. roles apply it is

a discussion and not saying i find western strategy. since the end of the or extreme you're brilliant otherwise we would not be the situation. being a climate we have between russia and the west the worst since the end of world war two today is. stupid and tragic the european union has filed preliminary complaints but the w t l is seeking to pressure the trumpet ministration by targeting u.s. goods produced in states that don't trump and to the white house you know we're talking about one hundred seven some bikes produced in response and you know whiskey from kentucky etc. it seems to be a very specific case of mixing politics and economics you know you try to pinch us economically we will try to hurt you when it hurts the most politically is that a fair game as far as europe is concerned because the europeans have long been very

moralistic when russia tries to mix politics and economics what would you. trump is doing what he does he's doing what he does because it she'd into his electorate but i'm asking you do you think it's a fair game of course is a thing what's wrong with well i mean what's wrong when you subsidize got gas for your neighbor and expect a certain political outcome to happen there what's wrong with bad but apparently you know in your crane the european union didn't like russia having both economic and political leverage the economic and political reverence have always been. into exercise marxism in this country for a number of years well it has only but i mean the world where we've been told by the europeans this is not their head way to do that and i'm just struck that the european union. you know in itself was built on the cutting tax tariff first remember it was a custom union freeing them up with low free circulation of people and consolidate

democracy and peace so the link between openness and trade and openness of society has always been xeni lion of the western countries so you cannot you know we tend to discover that politics and economy links of course selling the traditional free trade school really in the end do sex and country and all the. u.k. germany us that the more it's free choice have to that's why as a public in the us was always pro trade trump is not proof we trade and use this question in a very spectacular way. but you know and china has a point to diffuse it with china is huge by the way we have a huge deficit in france with china and we need to fix it we are too complacent the problem is there is no trade as you know in europe trade policy is federal you have a permission to do that and it's so you need to show collective power in order to

do some said mr lewis don't you see the irony in that because a response to this half an hour talking about you know this bare knuckle of prose by donald trump and what you're actually telling me that it's ok to be your itself implying that kind of area appoints known them when you have to protect your interests you you may take measures that are necessary to protect your interests when you have a huge deficit that you accumulate with china which is in part because of unfair like this is not over woods that it's also the hunger of consumption of the u.s. for cheap products but there is also in. very dedicated strategy on each end state which is not always fair to destroy production in the west or in russia and says very cheap products are unfair competition. you entitle to defend against that

yes you must that is one issue but please don't confuse with the rest of it anyway mr lister have to leave it there thank you for being with us today and i hope our viewers can keep this conversation going on our social media pages asp i mean it's here again same place same time here on the wall for part.

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i. party gets exclusive access to a meeting between russia's foreign minister and the north korean leader our correspondent was the only international reporter allowed in to. stop gap the prime minister to release downs down this. political turmoil. and the united states slaps the european union and other allies with hefty tariffs on the new medium and steel imports and claims that it won't affect relations and that they'll simply get over it.

very good evening to you as always a pleasure to have your company my name is neil harvey this is r.t. international. the russian foreign minister has met with north korean leader kim jong un as yang prepares for a possible historic peace summit with south korea and the united states and arctic and exclusive access to kim's palace. was the only international correspondent to be there. well i spent an hour and a half's time scam john policy and carrying in with my camera without being told what to do no journalist so we're going to be allowed there but then suddenly at the last moment we got a tip from these foreign ministry officials that i can take my camera and come it was a long journey we're following a black mercedes along the streets of being angry and then we realized that we

ended up in a completely deserted area where there were no cars on the streets or people and then i saw this big palace and we seemed to get into the palace through some kind of baggage door gates and only then i was able to realize that this is the actual villa and kim was waiting behind the wooden door as sergey lavrov arrived in a few moments and all kinds of interactions between the russian foreign minister and the north korean leader there are of course pressures to watch i just want to share one of the moments with the. issue of food soon in pyongyang is indeed. yes it's my third time and i must say from yang is only getting better again nobody around us was speaking russian or english i don't speak korean so we couldn't really understand where these people were taking us but i guess the moment when i

realized that this is definitely the palace the official residence of kim jong hoon is when i saw kim sr she was trying to sneak out through the doors and i even said hello to kim sr here's what that particular moment looked like hello. now that was kim jong un sister. every tiny detail at that location was really trashes to watch i was fascinated to see cam john thune sitting alone on one side of the table without any aides or assistants he was only accompanied by the translator and it was if you like seven on one talks because on the other side of the table there were seven members of the russian delegation facing kim on his own and we will be showing you more of these exclusive pictures in the hours to come and on friday as well i can tell you that i had

a very long day and north korea apart from this truly incredible visit to kim jong il's residence so have a look at what else i saw there. so these are our first stab in the democratic people's republic of korea. so thirty lavrov limo just departed and we're going to follow him right now. we just left the airport and we're trying to catch up with the serbian labrada limo but we seem to be a bit far behind or on the way to the capital pyongyang. this is a truly incredible opportunity forced to film inside the place where most high profile move things and north korea happened just as the russian foreign minister sergei

lavrov is talking to his north korean counterpart behind closed doors right there. the moment when the russian top diplomat is n.p.r. and yang is absolutely unique on the one hand the resolution of the korean peninsula crisis might be just a few steps away with a massive concessions the north and the south have both been making and even donald . to however we understand that any move can make everything collapse. so the question is why exactly. and it up in the top little russian diplomats to suggest that it was several invitations in a row by mr. park during his visit to moscow.

we were also told that the north koreans wanted the trip to happen asap during that traditional way to chat with the journalists on the plane when we asked. why this was happening and what to expect of the visit his answer was well just have to see i don't know for now. let's go if chang believes that the step by step approach to negotiation suggested by moscow is the only reasonable way to settle the crisis. the negotiations process has to proceed in a reasonable rational manner in view of the demand on the part of the united states that the. process has to be complete very fireball and the versa bowl is obviously a symmetry in the american demands and the. demands of from young soul the russian prime minister is by using

a kind of step by step or stage by stage a kind of negotiation process which is obviously rational since it is rather difficult to work to achieve to secure a complete arrangement in one goal. the crisis in e.u. powerhouse italy has a worsened after the new prime minister designate stood down let's get more on this story from r.t. charlotte to ski it is charlotte what next then for this political crisis in italy . well what an incredible to in italian politics for the second time in less than a week somebody has decided to relieve themselves of the mandate of being the next talian prime minister the latest man to hand his leave notice in carlow quarterly he's moderate economist a former director of the guy m.f.

and he had been appointed given the mandate to form a government by the italian president but he stood down saying while it'd been an honor to be in that position over the last few days he felt that government with a political mandate was by far the best solution and he's talking about a political mandate there because he was not elected to do that role in fact we know that the five star movement and the likud had been in discussions for many weeks and they put forward their ideal candidate for the prime minister earlier this week and this was just said because he was due to form a government unfortunately the sticking point there was the name of the person that he wanted to be the next economy minister. of honor who was deemed to be too euro skeptic by the italian president to then through that out said that's not going to happen and as a result we know that mr conti actually took down his mandate and said i can't form

a government here we do know that despite the differences between the five star movement and the league who come from the left and the right side of the political spectrum they are due to meet again on friday to further discussions to see if they can now pick up the slack from the fact that carlo quarterly has decided not to proceed to forming a government in italy and to see whether they can pull back the idea of that coalition government and work on the mandate of that government for change that they had put forward previously well we know that the political in certainty in italy has caused major problems within the financial. look a market with many people unsure about what the future holds for the country but it's not the only e.u. country at the moment that's facing some severe political turmoil if you just look across the water to spain problems there as the prime minister faces losing his job the parliament there are currently debating

a motion to remove him that motion of no confidence was put forward by the main opposition socialist party who said that they are seeking to replace mr hyde with their leader that debate is due to go on until friday morning when they will take a vote whether or not to remove him from the job as the spanish prime minister so of course for the charter do this could bring is the very latest developments on the political scene in italy thank you. the u.s. has announced that it will slap the you with painful tariffs on aluminum and steel imports from friday canada or mexico they'll also be it donald trump first announced the moves in march but in a concession to allies including the use some exemptions were granted our correspondents in london and washington gauge reaction from both sides of the atlantic the tariffs will reportedly threatened seven point.