from the troika the i.m.f. the e.c.b. the e.u. they gang up they destroy a country for profit it's a it's a smash and grab in greece was destroyed they had a referendum and then they didn't pay any attention to the referendum they didn't want the troika wrong and look what happened in greece it turned it into a pit it turned into a shelter into garbage and now the same bankers are getting together because they need like a shark always something to destroy to eat so we were trying to figure out would it only be next i think were the two likely candidates so i guess as we've been saying that for five years that this was coming and i guess italy will be the next meal for the i'm. still with you on the idea that dropping bombs brings us to the chicken hawks was new to the battle but don't. produce offspring to tell you that gossip and public are most important

. off of advertising you are not cool enough to buy their product. or along the border will want. welcome back to worlds apart from the problem i agree director of the talon institute for international political studies. both a year ago you were speaking at one conference on the middle east and north africa and you suggested that europe. has gotten a bit carried away with its fascination. the transformation it got used to seeing itself as this positive actor for change in the world. i wonder if you would

go as far as to say that this fascination with transformation has come to bite your because some of the problems to be seen you're related to migration i think would be traced directly to this idea of being a positive and striving for democracy in the middle. promoted by europe. it was. certainly in chile in libya played a role i mean there were different positions that libya. taken but not. in. gadhafi. and great britain obama leading from behind the school in the government but. i'm not signing responsibility but

i think it would not arnold but i'm saying that the big. regional. here then we have been did it affect you i mean of course we can. ninety percent of the migrants. comes from libya. was a very important trading partner. which is important as you know you can buy all you. need. to to italy and. for migration. so of course who were affected and we played your right as relevant to. the. duffy in trying to find a solution which is not there yet. now one perplexing thing to me as somebody reported from libya both before they got office matter and after that it was. the

fact that you know he was as mercurial as he was he was actually open to change if only for a parent and i think he was also open to making his relationship with the west particularly european union of it a little bit better why do you think that. oh transformation. wasn't preferred. faster information. regime change. and you could discuss. why you took the lead and. i'm not seeing. that gadhafi. had to be he was a dictator but as you know we have been used to leave along in many other countries

so your question was right. well it's a convenient position from my point of view because you mentioned before that italy is quite resentful about having to deal with the migration crisis yeah you kind of outsource responsibility for that crisis because i mean your interests were at stake there because italy have calculated the risks on its own. brand. that's not my personal opinion but do you remember the situation with the taliban government krises erupted was it the final stage of it was a cute old possible crime it was in the video weak position and that is when the. libyan crisis erupted so it was a very again a very delicate moment around the country and probably we did.

as far as you know do not even know if. hold back a little bit or was it the proposal i'm sure you. sure. now if you mention them that talk about their reference earlier. in two thousand and sixteen the word transformation has been substituted by the words the bill a station in the new global strategy for europe which i as a russian find rather ronit because there were stability in this country is very often i would even say excessively often what best the belief even mean in the european context now. because the situation is getting worse and worse and the. american decision.

come through and it's clear that europe doesn't it great leverage in. russia longer than average america is uncertain. the big regional. now speaking about this change in terminology substituting transformation of forest of allies ation it is all the more striking. to hear that in russia because over the last couple of months the kremlin started stressing change much more there is a discussion about revamping the quality of the russian governments fighting corruption possibly relaxing immigration rules. tracked international talent investing in human capital all those things that we usually associate with the euro and yet all of a sudden russia starts talking about it when europe no longer discusses it at least publicly do you think do you take it seriously do you think russia actually wants

to do that or is that just rhetoric on the part of the. migration. i remember that. was. a few years ago. even if. every time i calmly. walked. out of the. work of your person but you asked me isn't that strange because the. people of. europe and no i'm not surprised these are the words. that. in china for the next. china

investing in the middle class. environment and he actually did. this he said just at the beginning. and other become to china now you personally warned about the danger of a possible rupture. in europe on the russian sanctions which according to you could be resolved in the isolation of. the european union and i know that you associate that danger primarily with this new. leaders like mr salvini what i can't understand is why it is not. meant to you know facilitate russia's efforts to become better. including by perhaps easing or lifting of sanctions. strong. relations between europe and russia. to require.

russian. russian and my comment that you are mentioning. the position. it's not there yet government and i will saying was that. would be risky for a newly established party. government going to use asking for money asking for money to support all the docs and basic income and at the same time diverged with a utopian view which is to go along with sanctions. until we have pressure from the states. and so we would be my point was if we have to go to brussels to other parts and get something for the program basic

income and. docks how can we at the same time at the same table and say we go on our way on position with russia the sanctions for the height of the ukrainian crisis as i'm sure you would agree with me it was a very specific. time and i think if we are on this then fair i think we have to recognize that russia's actions in your cranium may not like them but they were dictated by russia's very accurate perception of threat by nato i think from the kremlin point of view that threat has now been diminished there is no near prospect of either. either in crimea or in the a crane what's the point how long do you think it's advisable to keep those sanctions that keep hurting you that keep hurting us for something that cannot be reversed and i think would not be repeated on in discussing. prizes and the european perception and the russian perception. you know randi it took almost four

years. for the next three days but let me let me be very very quick and bomb this. many european countries. and come to believe that we should get out of sanction and come to some. ok but let's be honest and. the decision final decision on this issue. has to come from washington. clothes washing is utilising. iran. into iraq i understand i mean they will not. marry trampin in a way because it's interesting to me how europe likes to portray itself as this principle values based and to what you tell me is it simply quid pro quo if the

same way the trial perceives not. exactly. what i'm saying and i told you i would be honest is that the rule of america. on issues like this. they're having trump in mind. and we don't. think that there is that currently the. actions of russian. i mean i am surprised that you say that men should submit to blackmail that's what i'm surprised. this is what. china the american administration has not said to you. on iran or if you do not. like me.

how did they tell how many have your read they mean by mr frum pay or you know the american ambassador to germany i think they expressed it quite specifically but what puzzles me and this is the last question i guess because we're running out of time is when the sanctions against russia were passed there was a recognition that it needed to be done because a certain message had to be. well to the detriment of the european companies now you're telling me that when it comes to trying simply because you have huge trade with them. all principles have to be another angle i didn't say that i sent some show would impose on values that we utopian to see who have not the specter by russia that walls if you have to go you ask me where the assumption can be waived now would that something has changed not much but something and i'm seeing the new thing now is that we have someone else at the white house that who utilize is

a strong the bot again and you know won't he utilize these tools regardless of what you do i mean you kept your word on and he walked out along all because you know look at numbers. us grade you know i want to get there billion with russia trade exposed i want to export to russia he's eighty i want to export to iran six so when a couple negotiates or boots on the table to europe. do you want to work with iran with russia or would to say would do you seen america european decent and european pretty sure i would say they win lol this week they will try to find a nicer form but that's the substance your program is famous to be a very honest program so i'm giving you your honest box the beginning of the krises

was on values which for european perception we have not full and respected by you by russia and talking about ukraine i really appreciate your straightforwardness and also your passion thank you very much for your time and i encourage our viewers to keep this conversation going in our social media pages as for me hope to see you again same place same time here and all the parts. are. it is a nuisance this is the only. church secret indeed priests accused of

sexually abusing children can get away with it quite literally i like to call this the geographic solution so what the bishop needs to do then he finds out that the priest is is a perpetrator is simply moves him to a different spot were the previous standards not the highest ranks of the catholic church help conceal the accused priests from the police and justice system to that it does no good as the i and then i think you'll hear that it just is out and. it's. you never know what's around the corner you never know what's in the pub you can walk into excitement it's that not knowing that's where the adrenalin rush comes

from. and you can easily move by definition an extreme so all. the violence is a part and it's almost a schizophrenia. when you can do all these things and behave badly. want to befall a horse colorful all. the more so for the last. honest man infirmed. more or less in the start. of a broader where they are really did a poll that i now want to get. meaning anything is there anything. if you don't involve this constantly evolving. fifty years ago britain and within to come together as a sleeping pill does this is what i mean because i. said to the scientific terrible

but not on the road as shown in dutch one football love. not war. across europe victims are starting legal battles demanding at least some compensation in two ways first will the physical damage itself as well that the concert mind for the people who actually perpetrated this crime has never been the justice and there's been a couple. of the other. don't. seem all over.

new. palestinians mourn the death of a nurse who was shot by israeli forces on the gaza border while treating injured protesters also ahead. a letter was given to me by kim yong barnes on would you like to see what was in that letter telling you like how much how much but how much after receiving a letter from the leader of north korea donald trump says a summit with kim will take place after all. and their florida jury. he awards four cents in compensation to the family of a black man who was shot and killed in his own home by a point. the latest on these stories you can head to our to dot com coming up the actor and activist grows up mcgowan is the guest on going underground and if you're

watching in the u.k. sputnik had the rise of euro skeptic parties across the. some action or times are we going underground is after this week's top level russian korean meetings in pyongyang pentagon boss mad dog mattis today goes to singapore ahead of president trump's on or off nuclear talks coming up in the show assistance a vision the filmmaker whistleblower actor and activist rose mcgowan exposes the hollywood propaganda model and tells us why not to trust a man in a three thousand dollars suit we speak to her about her manifesto brave demystifying a multi-billion dollar system that seeps into the consciousness of billions all around the world told us and more coming up in today's going underground but first

those fighting nato nation neoliberalism were to be on the streets of rome today to protest what they see as the death of democracy in europe the electorally successful five star movement that alone its far right allies just didn't want to defect so e.u. appointed i.m.f. man to be prime minister of italy we need to know that i'm going to play about it don't you know that you see. if you want to change it if you don't believe that you have to give up all that oh i didn't see anything good one good luck you don't know oh i didn't mind you know in other words what's happened in europe in the past ten or twenty years astonishing i mean even the wall street journal it's astonishing. pointed out recently in an article that the. you're no matter what government is elected you know for a left or right and if you know they follow exactly the same policies nigel farage saw that and so from the left did the mentor of u.k.

labor leader jeremy corbin in europe keep positions on appointing not electing the commission for example or appointed not one of them in the team and the way that europe has developed is that the banker and the mountain national corporations have got very powerful positions and if you come in on their own they will tell you we're cannot do another acceptable ideas that we are today supposed to be given voice on the streets of the eternal city but italy which will be the third largest economy in the e.u. after breck's it has long been targeted for not being in line with washington in one thousand nine hundred the e.u. parliament debated nature collaboration with armed groups to define democracy as former f.b.i. consultant paul williams told sean stone son the film director oliver about operation gladio on r.t. is watching the hawks during gladio one the years of lead in italy when there were these horrific bombings even the blown your bombing posited from time they were all

done by really stay behind units a gladder your units spurred on by the cia well of destabilization of italy is open to debate no one need to bait how a particular italian american actor is destabilize the arguable propaganda arm of the us military industrial complex hollywood her name is rose mcgowan and she's been in the news for bringing down powerful men like harvey weinstein currently on bail after being indicted by a grand jury for sex crimes that he denies roses appeared in scores of t.v. and feature films directorial debut dorn was nominated for the grand jury prize at sundance and they just work is brave tracing her journey from the children of god cult in southern italy to becoming a movie star she joins me now rose welcome to going underground so why do you think many people believe this part autobiography part manifesto about hollywood of the journey towards hollywood as well as only what is a rare. i think it's so rare because people don't talk back to hollywood people

don't break rake and they don't tell secrets even though this is definitely not a tell all and like i say it's a tell it how it is people don't really do that either because of the powerful interests stopping anyone from hiding the what's beneath it i think it is the powerful interest i think it's just because it's how it's always been done you know how we call things you know the best poirot for the job we have the same names we have the same schedule that they did from when they started hollywood don't deviate it just stays the same because these are the unwritten rules but you know i don't really believe in unwritten rules i don't i don't see the point and i i don't see the point in not saying it like it is really intermissions of the horror and you name check one very famous. francis former. record for so i mean apart from the fact that a lecture sure there are three is actually used later in the in the narrative

what's the importance of francis for francis farmer was a classic hollywood actress and she did very few films she was doing very well and the hollywood powers that be wanted her to continue being famous she did not want to be she didn't want to be an actress she didn't want that life for herself and. the studio head in collusion with her mother had her kidnapped and given electroshock therapy to force her to want to be famous and instead as i say in the book it left her just a husk of a woman and that is kind of i wrote that because it's kind of the message you get as a woman there just. they would love to be able to do that to me i'm sure of it it is just don't get out of line little girl don't get out of line with what schork was it you explained this quite funny actually so. was the united states when you given that you left the gold in italy and you arrived in the united states which of america truly was i don't know that i've ever gotten over being shocked when

america i tell you the truth on a daily basis it's quite shocking. it is incredibly beautiful land but it was very traumatic and i did have a big quibble with orange cheese and not understand it having never seen it before and into me it was just a perfect metaphor for. i mean imagine going to the food there in the eighty's in america it was going from italian food in tuscany you to that was just everything was different was loud it was it was it was everything you think you cried over the denny's getting i cried over eating spaghetti a fast food restaurant i thought this is it i'm stuck when it comes to the classism we're going with and that's the word to use when food stamps are involved with school people ashamed people are shamed for that and it was interesting going back and forth between my father who at the time did have you know some money to than my

mother who was putting yourself back to university so we were on a very lean budget and it is it likes to pretend it doesn't have that class structure that it got free of it but that's who we were formed by you know america anyway and it's not free of it and how exactly do you think it manifests in different ways that manifest everywhere just from if you're poor you go to the drugstore the chemist to get your face cream instead of you know the in the u.k. would be so for it is for the fancy people but it's the same people behind say l'oreal making both products or. you know they follow you in places if they don't feel like you're quite right for it or they exist all the examples of it the subtleties the if you go into a wal-mart there which is you know store by and large it's a very cheap clothing store and i think they've just sold it a big market here but it was interesting i went into one recently and all the

clothing marketed towards people of a certain means were all fluorescent and i thought you're not going to go into a store on you know rodeo drive with all these flora it was like so we can easily identify the poor people there's a lot of psychology that goes into the stuff and i i had a lot of time i suppose to think about it and your choice of rebellion like so many of the children all around the world was the only way that many of them have music and fashion music and fashion and just i didn't i was very ok with being different i was very ok i was looking differently and i was ok with putting out a message of i guess i'm not like you and it wasn't they just knew that inherently. you know when you're from somewhere else they love making you feel like you're the freak and i just but it's not me through the country of immigration in the book you say. you hear the teacher saying we're trying to teach you the pledge

of allegiance you might get the communist out of you and then you say that's how you were fascists. didn't even get a no no historical and you know not really and the books were really wrong and the books that they taught with and you still do. i didn't put this in the book or it got cut but i was very influenced by malcolm x. when i was eleven which and i was your average eleven year old reading material but i was reading the autobiography of malcolm x. and he said something that really stuck with me at that time when i'd come to america and he said why would you let your enemies teach your children. and not just kind of really stuck with me in terms of realizing i didn't want their information in my head i didn't want the propaganda in my head i'll take what i want leave the rest and there was a powerful influence it was probably well malcolm x. doing known for by any means necessary some that kind of power in any kind of.