by the way this made us read all of us that it was really a win win situation and sticking to the norms and respecting the international this is a precondition to go to see now from some parts of the american diffuse ration that except the d.c. international norms are more to speak to this is a pity now there was an interesting exchange last week of the same to spark a kind of make foreign when the french president emmanuel mccraw and i was kind of complaining about the diminished u.s. interest in european security to which president putin responded by saying that don't tortilla russia can provide that security for europe and maybe take that as a joke as a kind of chutzpah but i think mr putin has actually meant to do you think there is still any chance of europe recognizing russia not only as a major security thread but as a major security partner could russia is a major part of for peace and security in those other budgets in the onus the

always who i think you're russia if you want to live p.c. in the middle east and you need russia. to speak to hardly be constructive part of the european see russia that way because we have a problem with ukraine specially with these some parts of ukraine the premio case this is this is a burning issue and i think this is we sold these problems gradually and step by step we could really come back to do you know european house i know that you view the vans in ukraine as this turning point in the relationship between russia and. the european union and you referred to it as a major challenge to europe speech and security of water since the helsinki final act was signed in one thousand seventy five and i think we in russia can feel how acutely the europeans might have. fouled. being violated by what happened in

ukraine but i think you in your in europe also need to recognize that russia acted the way that has acted in ukraine because of its own very very deep sense of insecurity europeans may feel very safe under major security umbrella we feel the opposite i wonder how do you think dad that security that allowed. would be addressed now that it has already allowed to an open conflict this is the full o. think some listeners. in one listener in the margins if we really want to leave it to survive in my to pull the world is controlled the idea of regime change from outside everybody's responsible for this world defeat and the russian people should build turf for the leaders of the ukraine in the electorate should look to see him in the routine is that your ancestry and i'm not asking you about you know stripping ukrainians of their sovereign rights we are talking about

specifically. the extension of nato military infrastructure towards russian borders because i don't think russians if you're really i mean at least if you talk to mr putin he quite plainly said that's what russell russia was objecting to was not. european and ukrainian integration you know economy corp but russia was really troubled by is the prospect of nato on its borders of the i understand could be to do since he did russia is visually. when the didn't need to move into did needle russian ideas really emerge words a bit understanding the kills are much closer cooperation people agree with this is in my opinion one of the big mistakes on both sides of issues that neither side were. was it the big disappointment or the other hand. think you should not forget

to add to the ukrainian thing the opening problem started with the e.u. association agreement i would. exclude that we and they still may deter some sensitivities on the russian side but it's not true that all of the european their way was was not seen there is is a problem. and i think this was not this is harry because we are extremely interested in economic and political operation with russia and i think this is still on the table to it is soon is we could see this burning problems especially in the us then the sanctions should be relieved and then to to see the ways will in this rule should be accompanied by in the e.u. by and russian us agreement in secret in matters is spatially in the arms reduction and then of course are there ways is open for a better understanding of this a from my to pull over can i come back to the idea of security you pointed out in

a one of your articles that arms purchases worldwide have increased by almost fifty percent in recent years the united states china russia have been all pouring money into their militaries should europe be catching up here europe was it europe was the only region where the arms expenditures went down during the last thirteen to fifteen years i have the impression it would be better not only tool stick to the two person target of the famous military expenditures would be much better to broaden the shool i don't speak about numbers but to include full to see security arrangements as such development aid prevention of brain fills all of these things which are quite complicated and quite expensive but aiding to our own security in this brawl to bring it in there in a wide array. with our partners so let's say ukraine to georgia. to

dispel some part bill for all of the vegetarian in the area it would be a quite depressive step forward to increase i was a clue for russia you mentioned the two percent of each suggest to me that you're still thinking about the security or fear of with them to framework of nature but there is also a discussion and in europe about building its own security system and over the last couple of years a lot of conventions have been upturned for example i'm pretty sure that the europeans couldn't have imagined that the united states would be threatening them in such areas and syria mourning its way with tears and sanctions as we were as you think about building the european security system should be planned with the idea of countering all possible security threats and by that i mean do you think and the american threat could ever be. contemplated in europe there's no direct

threat to the for instance have in mind i think one we one we get to those. in the middle for me one very serious newspaper thing it was a front for documented on the older arctic a based on the very objective research institute where the germ in the people we are says were sometimes see just as well as but they've represented the study. where is now the real threat and this was the first question was is europe in the americas drifting apart sipping tea person save the seventy percent agreed to only nine percent refuels said no same division increased tensions between europe and america that chancellor you're afraid to die a poll in the german paper and. i don't find any particular surprising our heard a lot of europeans. just that the administration is already actively undermining

european interest by for example walking out of the basic theory which present a security threat by raising the specter of another war plus it comes with the fragile secondary sanctions which of these two do you think is more dangerous or more threatening to european interests at this point of deduced really dangerous this is threatening our economic and political interests that think we should stand up against such pinsky's because it's absolutely against international law just to do the iranian regime in these notes i literally lose my delivery literally agreement based on this here on the united nations security council resolution binding resolution twenty two thirty one and the c b two withdrawal from d.c. cream it is a violation of international chancellor with all due respect how do exact question dr that because your trade with the united states is i think in the range of six

hundred billion dollars are you ready to put that on the line in order to defend your principles you could bring good issue to do night edition the security council if you can challenge these sanctions if they did a deal and do you see any mr trump will pay attention to what the u.n. security council says or what they were the only journalist bending this is not so easy as well i don't think you meant was also binding about the us going to this is cecil to say not only europe or those other parts of the world are standing up against these extra territory using against international law i think it is an imperfect and don't forget the internal discussion in america and america is no trump. if. we should stand up and defend our interests is all about what i think trump is challenging is he's challenging this very bad export oriented model that be your opinion is based on them that. idea that the european

union is exploiting the united states for the lack of a better word in pristina trying it was their event before that do you think that this is something that will go away with trying to do you think it's more lasting as a first of all i think there is illegitimate interest to raise you explored were to reduce unfair imports were to reduce into fighting against. the state subsidies which arnold was justified to do it for sure this is the normal way therefore we have an international norm this is double duty all you can. bring good this issue will be to do was sure to the too good to be the mediation and it will be ruled by the way america won the recently the boeing against the airbus this was . won by the americas indeed the same could be on the rupee european side to this is the in pile of norms if you should not thirty five we should not leave these in

piles lawns because we're living with it in a very good way now but if the trumpet ministration indeed perceives we have both a secondary sanctions and the tariffs the things the european union will be able to maintain the american restrictions and the restrictions that were earlier introduced against russia or didn't do you think that all those two issues that come back to it i don't think these are cookies over make these are just three completely different issues the the trade new issues with europe this is one economic issue the iranian issue this is a political issue and the sanctions against russia is also a political issue they are not connected but it will be easy to use the american situations. which is. monitoring all distinctions and they have real problems because they're a little bit understaffed and they have real problems to find the right priorities to again i think what this is needed to. defend the international system. wolf

norms and this is something called binds us in china and europe chancellor we have to take a very short break now but we will be back in just a few moments. strategist but that'll survival. when customers go by you reduce the price. didn't help well reduce some lower. that's undercutting but what's good for markets not good for the global economy.

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welcome back to worlds apart that's well i'm sure still a former chancellor of austria and former president of the european council for chancellor just before the break we were talking about this triangle of the european union the united states and russia and i think at least in moscow there is a perception perhaps a self-serving one that the current posture by the american administration may present an opportunity for the russians team. pro for their relationship with

europe. do you think it's an accurate perception do you think europeans may see russia in a different light now that they have experienced the new style of the american diplomacy i think those it. would still need to. think russia should use these tools which will need to be with steps forward in the right direction it is foreseeable that i think some speech use or read some features of president putin the during the last weeks or after his relation. i think this could be interpreted in this in the same boy or during the recent visit. in. quite increases step forward but of course it requires always on the russian side some flexibility to for instance the transceiver to the tools to russia to ukraine bio ukraine to europe this is one issue that because understanding the sensitivities. squared here the ukraine has some billions transit

fees and losing everything is not fine for the president is going to give you nothing this is this is one way where american people didn't seem to agreed maybe not finally but there is a good way forward but from what i understand even prior to that the russian leadership suggested that they are not actually against keeping some part of transit. through your crane i mean they they want that to be you know safe and secure and they don't don't want ukraine to use it as a leverage or as a bargaining understandable but it depends also a little bit on the quantity and this has to be negotiated and i want to seize on this issue of flexibility because if you keep referring to the ukrainian issue as you are still in our major stumbling block towards the referendum or between russia and the european union. how exactly can the russia facilitate. the pacifying of the. situation when. the ukrainian leadership quite explicitly says

that the minsk agreement was reached under duress and therefore could not be implemented in this current shape or do we stick to the mean inskeep agreement doesn't all dog about the europeans i mean maybe i'm ready you'll stick to your own we russians details you have your annual deal crane's has will have always had to stick to it there is also more doubt about this. is israel is russia and its its weight the outcome will be but i think in the end the most important thing now is. to preserve the ceasefire the second thing is we should work together to improve the economic situation especially the eastern part of ukraine. to get lugansk and only it's peace with those of the green on the kiev so this is a very poor region and to take to get it to create the kind of physical konami the reconstruction of the end for the whole region to be fantastic with him but i think

there is obvious difficulty. in doing that on the russian side because obviously the country ukrainian leadership wants to do nothing with russia i mean they are they still want their money or you know the money for the transit is there they do not want to interact with russia in any political capacity or do you think they will accept any role of russia even in terms of fact constructing the eastern part of ukraine we cannot they go shit here in the deal on behalf of nigeria in israel this takes the i think you even the ukrainians must realize that all eat together europeans the americans russians and the ukrainians we can deliver a solution and i think is solution is better than those aleutian does think good politicians would realize. such a situation and i hope that after the election do we do with the window of opportunity we lose will be now you wrote in one of your articles recently that the e.u. . needs to undergo fundamental reforms to strengthen its clout in global interactions

and i think global it interactions these require a certain speed of reaction which seems to be lacking it also requires a degree of tactical maneuvering and i think ideological open this which has never been a strong side of the e.u. or maybe it has been to its advantage to the e.u. how it seems to be very ideological when it comes at least from the russian perspective when it comes to democracy promotion in defending its values and so on and so forth so. pretty dark sickly there seems to be. that kind of global interaction requires both a spine and a flexibility do you think europe has at this point of time. is the i don't think the so do see sticking to democracy and human rights issues all of this is difficult pieces of international law this is not ideologically issue this is

difficult this is our chord this is our this is in our heart in our gene i think what we have in mind and this is by the way the basis here for why the european union until now from the sanctions this is zero if we are not flexible enough. to run. different the difficult members like spain and greece and trees in france in germany and to indeed to leave your division. to this requires a lot of flexibility this is not the question i think it is. and what we need is especially in foreign policy i think there is more need for speed really i think reaction i think. to say dutiful for the european union and. the situation is improving it is fishy to be around. mostly done

and mediated do you. think we could see more of that of course. to pull the one kid alone deliver a peace agreement in middle east or with iran the world with the with ukraine or with the north korean leader. and the intake important good players just what i meant by ideological pre-disposition of the european union is their tendency to prize the democracy agenda every everything else for example in libya mania and number of european countries when they're hoping to do you good thing i think we can agree that those good intentions were not fulfilled if europe had that greater cloud and global interactions that you talked about or that you wrote about do you think that decision would have taken do you think just as eagerly sided with some of the other foreign policy initiatives. associated

with the united states be it in syria or in iraq or in afghanistan i think the last two interventions military interventions show that. people listen to. the regime change from outside take saddam hussein take libya. this created just kills war millions hundreds of thousands of people millions of refugees it kills poverty the poor people on the ground suffer i think this is a listen and i think we should we all should you know exactly these nations listen regime change you still pose who should accept our limits who could offer good good ideas mediation economic support everything but i think the ideal for regime change military into. from outside this is mostly now russia sometimes the americans

understand you think. the beginning is a retreat goal i mean that is the current president obama from doing. this is gradually you see you as you do you see. of move out of. this is quite interesting to say though that everywhere the. scope of engagement may have contracted the damage on the ground. but i think the listeners afghanistan to iraq from iraq to libya you see yemen will be the next case a military intervention for good now all of this crisis we just mentioned in a way contributed to the crisis in iraq you would agree with me that it's not only syria driven it is also in part driven by intervention and the opening of sort of flood gates from from africa and i heard you say

a very interesting thing here you said that it was a mistake on the part of the old europe to make the migrant code mandatory for everybody and i think that's a bold statement for you know a former top official of the european council how do you think it should have been handled. deferred think is if you want to keep the internal. space. open without borders without control moving freely from one country to the next one then you have to prove take the external border much more effective than we did it than we have now fold takes form to exclude a little bit more than two thousand employees a thousand. this is not enough and i think did you commission with a new proposal is. along these lines but i think protecting the external border this is important but this is only to see the defense but to see the u. . more important or equally important is the prevention of

a ground floor so it's not only rich used today you have a lot of thousands of africans young people seeking a better future a better economic perspective for them jobs income is here to us and we should take them but in their own countries in their own region to a if you see important this is thinking about what could happen but what about those people who have already arrived at the european border is there more than a million of them how they should they have been distributed if there are a number of countries who claim that they cannot accept down for you know it can only go in if they are here they are mostly now in the indeed in the in the d.c. children's or most of them went to germany to sweden and to austria and of course to us or some other countries you telling greece are still very much affected but you know this mother to recall the did not to or to talk to her could lead to if you look for is the liberal good luxembourg inventor excepted train to riches that

with a private plane the foreign minister when the prime minister of police t. pers was the prisoner of the european parliament was there greeting and we're coming to refugees they have to be. a little bit informed why they should go to luxembourg today no one of these twenty refuses to listen to everywhere all the locks and go to it doesn't work. if you have if you really want to have a bit of functioning system you have to improve the external border protection you have to integrate those who are already in we never find ways to put them back to those who romania bulgaria or to to greece this is something this was missed in two thousand and fifteen we have to live with it in to integrate those who could get asylum and those who can not get the asylum that they must be sent back to their home countries. chancellor i have to live in there really appreciate your time

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now this is r.t. international we do start this hour with russian president vladimir putin i knew all televised q. and a in which he field questions from the public nearly two million questions have been submitted so far this year the live audience is being ditched for a more tech savvy approach we're showing you live pictures right here as we're standing by for the russian president to come in and also reported that. it will grill regional governors on air on issues raised by the public now this year's session will be glad to meet putin's sixteenth and it is expected to be slightly different from what we've seen in previous years a very quick preview as we stand by for the russian president. no doubt goes deah the biggest.