and twenty eight hundred nineteen we expect to spend the next set of seven hundred fifty million pounds supporting the fleet and then an email in from tim bevan whose could be catching up and the shores online is straight's me how interesting your choice of interview eases from a very detailed interview with thomas push among the president as was of catalonia a fascinating present of lebanon recently a very important people from ireland and northern ireland and that's a tiny little mound of term that you can catch up with all the alex salmond shows online and then from hilda who's emailed us to lisp on style requests for suggestions and future sure as hell the suggests weaving and point so that scotland's weaving connections around the globe and particularly in rural scotland is a traditional skill the still a very important one and there are an email i think from india from from stephen keith who says it wishes us continued success with the after show a breath of fresh air and thanks everyone involved thank you for that stephen and finally this week for from patrick from glasgow has tweeted it to say that scotland

glasgow generally need to be competitive with the rest of the world and start standing by the traffic lights with a cardboard sign and an empty coffee cup benefit be creative or die that is evolution says part of the absolute sure of all of that means but it sounds good and that's why we included it in this week's show. first minister for scotland back in twenty four thirteen i was closely involved with the rescue of this is that the avs have gone down at the smart thing and the ship building in the lower clyde the scottish entrepreneur jim mccoll step third on the investment plan shows a totally different perspective of the man that i'll be talking to chief executive jet in moscow about faggots and plans for the future the first doesn't mean the local member of the scottish parliament. to ask what it means for the title of a working shop and that's my biggest. welcome to it has been to tell me

a bit about the tag. has a very rich heritage of building. and something also has a future building mineral standing here in the biggest marine and the tone it's been through some tough times particularly twenty fourteen or so in the yard but and to see the ship but it's like a phoenix rising from the flames. with also the cyclone sonics behind us and this is the building the fost of two of the larger vessels are being built and also just after the three. at the shell built in recent years so those are bright future ahead for fed ex many bush even involved at the table at the department you've been very difficult to see how did the community feel at that tape what was the impact on them when it's heated haven't raced. when the news broke. went into receivership there was a sense of loss it was like a a loss of a family member because everyone is so much preyed on passion about ship building

and port law school and also that sense of accomplishment when you see the the ship going going down the stocks when it's been launched that trade is the it and i know that's something that's been used in the c.d.'s of ship building programs that you've been doing that's what it comes up time and time again this tell you very much lives and bodies ship building. it was a terrible period of time however. the former foreign minister summoned setting up a task force to make sure that that ship building but once again with tom to the town and also to tell the truth although we're quite certain it was a huge huge boost to making sure that ship building. would continue and this and this time and it's great to see that all the work that's being done and continues to be done here that ferguson medina you of course have family connections to shipbuilding tell me that i do this was the last yard that my father want to and

before he sadly passed away and two thousand and one. certainly the main road in the yard at a time when it was main also that of women which is great. i mean really supportive family. and i have a chance to to help the yacht and to help ship building and port last quarter and i was certain of it throughout so and my eleven years in the scottish parliament have been a continual support of all for christians as it was and also. know. it always fails me with over such a huge amount of plate but we still build ships and that's time that's probably holding true to that promise you made but i know you also play another role here i hear that you also write when ship so large here is that right i do it's sort of these things that they're. not an additional thing that a politician does i am the official parliamentary paper but someone who grew up

here and. i paid to launches when i was a boy and having the privilege to do. something that i never take for granted and it genuinely is a publisher do it because they see the from the. building ships and the shows being launched and the whole tone gets behind it and to play that small part of people doing it it always feels with a joy and it's great thank you very much indeed for joining us here today thank you thank you thank you now back to alex jenny marshall lisieux ferguson many. kelly welcome to the alex salmond show thank you very much alec tell me a bit first about the history of this great ship applied welfare to since has been the fed distances since one thousand nine hundred three and you can actually go back to seventeen ninety if you want to look for the first vessel is actually recorded to be launched in the stadium how many if you done today to date we've done three hundred sixty down and i mean when i was last year there's been

a almost been a few changes in terms of investment well with no invested in bibles capital command the national investment proposal was twelve and a half million to date with twenty five million pounds invested in the facility and not going to man the capacity to do different things in that capacity and capability and what we're setting in today no is a state of the art module whole then we can compete very competitively for meijer what packages through the u.k. and abroad which are which a key strategy for the future key strategy for the future is still focus on what has been our core what good's a fair market but also they best to find when they're looking at ministry of defense work the tape there too when the and other projects to go along with we're looking at ship repair we're looking the mobilization of the workforce so would they best to find but still stay in to

a core american will say that look very ship boeing hasn't been able to compete with low cost locations in the fairly market for example not always a very high cost location they've been able to compete hugely successful in some markets why is that i believe if you look at norway and some other countries they have been basement banks that are set up and these investment banks work with the shipyards and help them with what can capital and there's a direct correlation between the market share and your production costs and any subsidies or investment banks the more you have the more you can to show. market share in the just the production costs and has been for example this question of having to launch bourne's for contracts that is a list of the government's got to show the u.k. could take to make more competitive it would definitely hundred investment back or definitely because more competitive right now we have to go through bourne's and as you can imagine borns can be pretty expensive but it's a way of getting there be able what can capital that ties up your capital if you

have to log on your capital effectively absolutely. obviously the family market is a key was the connection between the ship building commercial families and some john popular support in the overall strategy for the industry the pocket of poor really kick start to denationalize ship building strategy and if you look at the strategy itself part of combining naval ship yards with the commercial shipyards to have a more competitive and competent supply chain in the u.k. the one that we can use all of the shipyards to the benefit both of the naval and to the best benefit for the local communities the social economic and the prosperity that that brings with it. is still a great driver of the local economy isn't a definite if you look here very narrow with unfairness and we have our own three hundred people base the knock on effect in the local community for quite itself is

it's been challenged over the years but with therapists and here and three hundred employees we bring in security back to these ploys well paid good job civil career which then gets the full truth about people buying houses and will clearly the schools the local community if you get there in the road know when there are marks and spencers the snow and then the local area the next. day and the retail part they're in there so it's a huge benefit and you said boys in the shipbuilding is changing in terms of his gen. catalyst is an obsolete was fantastic we now have data five a plane to seize and if you look at those appliances eight of them are actually home to be female and they're performing the exceptionally well as well as good and some most cases better than the boys themselves as just definitely agenda neutral and district well to do about competition doing it. so it wasn't you say you have three hundred employees not an f.

of a thing when the whole point is that the scope of facilities such as this in terms of generating employment generate employment through the national shipbuilding strategy read over same volved and tape that to one the supreme leader focus just winning a lot she had a fought the blow bill all thought would significantly increase of what force suck affected to one hundred people just without one contract divested find them to ship ship appear having that i don't keep about what's a dollar a day not more workforce to dot and that importantly the pain to ships that we pull through from not securing the future of ship building in scotland if i wanted a new fairly solid fagots it was built to offer me that student fair distance welfare cases be paid to so from that innovation we were the first shipyard in two thousand and twelve to put the hybrid ferry in the water the tooth fairy's you see getting built here just no the foster fuel l.n.g. ferries in the u.k.

and connelly pioneer the hydrogen fuel cell so we could offer you a whole lot really from size to shape and to how you want to drive you have the poetry behind do you want to feel whaling gee do you want buy three operating or are you want to hydrogen which by twenty twenty we plan to be the first ship in the world in the hydrogen fed in the water now that levein is going to be increasingly important in terms of the placement of families there's a substantial size found in locked in scotland but the european fairly market subject to the same regulations what are you. when i look at the fed a mock in scotland was over seventy beats in the school and over fifty one percent of the accountable for twenty years olds what i believe we need in scotland as an aside a national strategy based on the freedom aka a twenty year program that we could look at where we could take. to provide the most efficient and effective ferdy's that was san francisco because you're ready

and. you're looking forward to. families in the future and that would put you really well positioned for the phantom which is going to have to abide by environmental regulations coming in absolutely if you look at hydrogen we're aiming for two emissions and the ferries that we're currently offering just know. looking to offer. an option to upgrade them to hydrogen so they don't need to replace all the ferries game when we finally get hydrogen through the whole process we can just upgrade them. fairly mako ferry service to the whole of scotland so the hydrogen fuel cell finally sold in the family market absolutely there's a definite. drive in towards and fair to a leading the charge there and a phrase shipbuilding in the in the low applied sunrise or sunset and this is definitely sun rice. thank you so much for them to thank you very much oh it's

coming up after the break we'll be speaking. to been tame not great tradition of shipbuilding he had in the lower plight. of financial. aid i'm a teacher. for. some advice from the future conqueror. by. the church secret indeed priests accused of sexually abusing children can get away with it quite literally i like to call this the geographic solution so what the bishop needs to do then he finds out that the priest is is

a perpetrator is simply moves him to a different spot were the previous standards not the highest ranks of the catholic church help conceal the accused priests from the police and justice system to that of that's known as the end and then i think you'll hear that it is this is out in the. first. place furthest from. the target was. welcome back live back in twenty fourteen things look pretty desperate for ferguson sealed in the lower clyde and then i go in vegas a couple of guys who are the key shop stewards campaigning to see if the so john

welcome to the silence like selling selling things back to twenty four fifteen when you were leaving that campaign when things were pretty dark in terms of the future . in ferguson was not. grown men cry in apprentices about the store with absolutely no future in lycra dish. and as soon as it was funny and between you and john here you feel sparrow he had a fair distance. along and you know as the show up to as a novice it was you have obligations to the campaign did you think it was going to be successful. and i'm not children or tell me the number at a table and become one of the fade a moment and the usual miss a few of us live in the weeks. and make money. and have a take number stand been honesty us and told you tough and i want to leave off and often i want to pack a stuff and maybe opt. to join say that i was one of

a grown man is crying i've been here a long long time and local communities and family walks and you know my brother was my nephew as evident in my shop to from my. savannah family on a day job and it was devastating especially glasgow and fish up moving commune in alone so john you're facing not just the loss of jobs and livelihoods but the loss of history and heritage as well. as a mood for oh twenty years i was here before would be no one better greeks would know what management kept is on and it all go in and out one spot saying so when i came to the hospital that i was struck. as delicately as i can by the. the i'm team mate showed us some of the equipment he had not thought of it. before so i'm tall a bit the machine and i think it was made by yourself he said it was like ninety two i think we walked on the top the top and you know by going to the

a boat shop so these things you know i was on the planes is so different a transformation so as people see the investment coming into that must give us a kind of bones for the future a definite does a good get the whole local community has been a bridge for the future and that apprentices that are coming up to the big big thing. force and me going to get apprentices. is going to lose the skills in shipbuilding untroubled and shipbuilding about nineteenth and we have revived the dying trade and then this is a feature to see the gender of balance is changing a bit change and i doubt that any changes in behavior have to do with. kids of merit custody and you admit we. did a very good thing good thing so as you look to the future but will be a thing going on in terms of the prospects for all do in management is.

defense what is key for the moment but to achieve really need some help from your key government has been taught in transit and i mean a decent g.m.b. study proved the place a hundred million or done with a british of three hundred fifty million can buy. shipbuilding has always been a great driver of the economy not just in terms of local content but also in terms of the price ation generated by the jobs and livelihoods of state and this is a tonal bargain it's all that we need to cut called jobs to play varied as we move forward to stimulate board was going good and when sonics of course was launched last year of us to be in some day for the tide in the workforce to see a boat moving off again myself i was. led by good shipments. as you know of the today actually it is small fairies dogs. fetching a protection blue said he had been dealt. with in the middle looking to move on and

i said it's going to be key because it's a long time like everything that's come the needs and that's of it i think then just needs this. and i get the government i've got to know that none of us political are going to get up. as is going to vote this must be voted on for all the shipyards in the communities that are in the country they have agreed guys in your joint campaign to save the future of the workforce but you don't absolutely agree on everything you know when it comes to the beautiful game and your team has been having just a wee bit more success than your team. i'm enjoying the sunshine in the back of food from your. other member you told me one day when hearts were beating celtic i could get you in a minute funders thought we won. so i wasn't going to manage an open in the west and you see have a viable the prospects of a few of the to equal the revival if you know what. they mean.

and your money just come in and so just watch out by just aim of invincibles no more right so you're both going off to be a we have it. for many years to come but as little in the league oh. let's go over to. speaking to some more of the what force. thank you alex i'm night joined by hugh mackay n.z. i'm krista graham the longest serving an us member of the ferguson family welcome to the alex i'm in show now here you've been here for quite a risperdal how long did you know ferguson well realised this is a let's go up and you know somewhat still fifty years thirty two years that's quite a long stint and yourself crystal silver you're saying you're the new kid on the block what's it like it ferguson. to learn that people are pro you know so i want to be doing here in all of those thirty years of you being in the same role of you mr different will cost the document as i am fabric. through various roles on the yards from from through take the technical departments floor and the management

team which are all incredibly there and there how many more years you think you've got a ship boat and. a good twenty years in the yeah but you cross the heavy heavy enjoying it up and ship and what you think the future holds for you and hopefully moving up the chain here there's lots of so many opportunities especially with the yard nearly opened and you have family and children and no on the first new very first son i was a light being being a young female amongst that predominantly male workforce there's no one of course. it's like have a family of origin show the same and you want to think about what women coming into the industry obviously something is welcomed as this is something i know surely it's good for them to store civil. engineer men general really to get more females an engineer number two dogs mostly old and i'm trying to encourage them to go to some sort of general contest in a many people have spoken to show things very much family orientated it feels like one big family how do you feel the future of shipbuilding is important to the

maintenance of the founding of course all of the people in the white community who benefit from the first of all and some sort of never thought of the average person to spread the fairness and benefits the whole place where the very poor guy is going to no choice chris would it be to keep what and we keep just type of commercial real national health you. must feel like you've already said a big. a big family feud you feel now that your future you know for a family perspective is now in creating tear ferguson really enjoy it here and you can encourage more young women to enter the workforce. thank you very much indeed of course quest is the only female employee here ferguson ready alex is speaking to the reason. now one of our themes as we've looked to the future the fergusons is commenting on the changing gender balance in the work force of the op and i'm now joined by one of the apprentices louise locke and so how we got to do the full year complete apprenticeship here just three months now you have nearly finished and then the final year here the fences got the fully part of the workforce of course

but you get paid a fair bit more if you're continuing here after was when you basically a year where we just got a lot less something good to look forward to but you're in the drawing office on here so you'll be planning on the future of projects here with plan and these are human and joint and what's been puts a lot of that you think you're going to see your career as part of the shipyard not when i was really young that would be an engineer when i was younger but i didn't really have the confidence to go for it until i was a wee bit older then once i'd get up about i would call it in that a couple years and you needed them and i've seen that focuses were higher than that i think twice in applying and i was really lucky to get your friendship with your local to hear my distinct you know which doesn't fire my first you know in the yard i was an engineer then start by saying gee i was offered a place and its own office. she'll be here you'll be looking very much at the future of what's to come in this yard in the drawing office definitely i'm really excited to wear the art school and then really excited to get all what they've got

and tells you don't pass no development of in this particular mission where you can do your apprenticeship as a fully fledged worked in the doing the painting shop but also develop your skills and understand you're doing that here that's one of the opportunities i've been given before i started the focus since i had given that in seen it ten c. so when it came back in a fair distance it finds myself or any. so if i could just wave a magic wall and say listen what is the shit that you would like to be working on in the drawing office drawing up the plans for who would you like to be a hydrogen vessel that i did in maybe the future and this is. the technology clean bottom technology is going to we're making a reality of what's been laid the holy grail of hydrogen. it's really exciting and i think their existence is going to be the place to take it forward so i'm going to be there so from your perspective shipbuilding here. is very much an industry of

the future and it's really good for the. play than if you take on. keeping the jobs on and this is really important to that i. can thank you very much . this has been a great place to play my c.d.'s of the future of the shipbuilding. was set for closure only forty years ago now is every prospect of a much brighter to come circus is a builder of commercial ferries but even here with the familiar refrain the government teat flow of order from the military is an essential prerequisite of building that base lying to lower the to compete and commercial markets are crucial to that decision and the consortium which are being formed to bid for it is the upcoming decision on the support ships for the caius sense of first program in a series of announced a strategic partnership with the systems to compete for that vital and huge.

here at farragut since they know they have to be part of these consortium part of the partnership if they have to build of baseload to allow them to compete effectively in the international family market. one thing's for certain i mean visited over the past few weeks and the syphon belfast and here in the clyde there are communities who are committed to building ships they see their own industry a spot of the sunrise not of the sunset photon's we know myself the crew goodbye for now and of course from everyone here that faggots and.

radially reinforced rammed earth bricks is what they really are. this more than seventy houses about one hundred forty people with families living here. it's really a way of forming same as. the sun is coming in and hitting the house and being stored in massive walls. sagebrush is the natural environment here but as we're containing the sewage and and using

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