overcomplicated will the world cup become bloated and diluted or more exciting and diverse what else is in store for the great game. it's really great to have you on our program one more time welcome it's a pleasure to be here with you so we're going to lots to talk about world cup coming up to russia and you your persona and your role in fief and just football in general i know that you have said you created the modern football and while you were doing this you made mistakes what were those mistakes. i would say it a little bit. different. i made errors i made errors. errors made the biggest one was in. by conducting the fifa and being the boss of pizza there is

matter how to manage such an organisation and. in this organisation in seventy five one thousand nine hundred seventy five when we feel was just a very small organisation with eleven people i was a number twelve i went through all the fifa first development officer and technical director. secretary general's cio and then the president so i grew up with this fifa my biggest fear was that. when i was elected in ninety eight difficult election in two thousand and two again with problems then i got the position and i trusted people and i trusted people so much that at the end was finally. betrayed. well. i have to accept to be betrayed

by people from the executive because that. choose them. because. they were not always on my that was for me harm me but this was a date is the new city the state. trust all these people and to not realize that that's a mistake that a lot of people are making politics and business and industry well i really just want to talk a little more about the impact that you've had on the game itself on football itself not the organization fifo but what we see in every day football because i know you've said i've created modern football is that maybe taken a little too far i mean you came up with this amazing new rules but the innovations like players and other managers also take credit for that. pound

of. football and them happy you can bank on the field of play if you question. because i'm more comfortable on the field of play. a definite versus. memphis a good player. and a star player but of those who are good players but i have seen in football when i started in the sink about development of football then i have realized that football is more than kicking kicking a ball football is more than that but to be more you have to organize to game and the game was not organized the game was only for european europe and those for south america and then to go both divide and then we had to have a look on the laws of the game how are the laws of the game and then the laws they have to to to be adopted. adapted. to the development of the

game the game became faster and then we have realized after the world cup in italy in ninety million on it area no one cares very boring world cup. defendants yeah defending the back pass to the goalkeeper. and i knew had referees at the line they wouldn't participate if the differences in the center of both the secretary general and then. install the so-called fi front two thousand group of specialist to change the way how did that work yeah i remember he put a group together to make a football more combative and more exciting how did that group work exactly what they did it virg because everybody has realised the coaches the players the media even the referees and realize there is at the line because to be a linesman or to be a referee is different the linesman is a judge the referee is

a referee has to say yes or no the other one has in or out so and then the two see that the match was lasting less than thirty minutes the whole match in the game then it was played because he's back pass to the goalkeeper us and then the known the respect of. let's say the. the strike because going and being then tackled from behind by saying oh it's no saying or a yellow card so we have to change that and this was a big big. big issue or a discussion. we had players also we found that time already to michel platini in this dispatcher and and really. so

fast and never did the national board has changed the rules then from one boat to the other. have made different changes in the game both in forty years later and united states will said foster. the first much is it the people or players have been the red carded because of it was called the fall foul play of last instance before. sixteen of the eighteen yards. and also v. had no linesman on the. on the line and the same to the british we have to say we have changed scoring means the devaluation of the skin to three points for a win to say let's go to win and not only two points and so on so this was those the biggest change that have been made in the laws of the game to me about

the players of today i mean you also have called them modern day slaves but this people are making millions of euros and dollars per week i mean the transfer fees they're just nuts they're getting bigger and bigger records are broken every year i don't see how football players are at a disadvantage share and how they are modern day slaves maybe you know something i don't i know that you didn't like this whole transfer fee. manny out where like hundreds of millions of. dollars were poured in one player and he wanted to change that but that didn't happen so this transfer system the way we see right now is the only way for football. or do you think it's still going to be changed in the future no is it it cannot be changed because it is based on the so called demand of economic principles and that is you

cannot change the only thing would feel the need to not feel the u.s. tried to do is to introduce this system called financial fair play say financial fair play in finances there are no fair finances there are cons that and then. make a rule that. a club should not have in between its day in court and the expenses there should not be a too much great gap and where is the money coming from. but this is the same. rule where they cannot be successful so i know that you're not a big fan of the video assistant referee and it's going to be the first time during world cup two eighteen in russia that it's going to be used at this level of competition spoken to the organizers and they're actually saying that it's tested working really well it's going to make judgement in football

a lot easier what are your reservations what's to reason you mistrust that i don't mistress and then. develop also refereeing. you have started to. the goal line technology but it took three years until it was introduced because before you introduce a very important change in the laws of the game there must be some experiences made to rome to vote this is a principle of this international football association board the now and i was out there no fifa and they have no put in the so-called. bar video system the referee and this is not exactly what personally we have television to do we have not us television too good to be the referee of to game and so i said it is not the time the four of the world cup to make such an

experiment. before going to make an experiment in the vote cup it child be done in the different order competitions and vote about competition that can be the use competition the women's competition in order to see how it's happened because now you have the majority of the referees they are now and about the world cup they have never to be if the system and you have also the majority of the players there they have never if the system so how so that's why i put the. behind that it was. those notes. that they said the doing of the international boat the guardians of the laws who have to get why you have permitted to do that but no it's done and then let's see what will happen. we're going to take a short break right now when we're back we'll continue talking to accept the letter or talk about football and how it is perceived in today's world an upcoming world

cup stay with us. and. my uncle with a kid same compensate all boil down i am nobody in the. people no food nothing and i think. it's not. going to. get the kind of. move on the list i read on the bench about the movies because of almost anything

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know. that's a. backward step ladder obviously. when power is changed every comes into power brings new rule sets the rules new teams so your successor.

in fi thought also brought a new team he changed everyone completely. most of the people in power are now former football players i don't know if it's a good thing or about thing i don't know what feeds on eats rather football players or x. coaches or good managers maybe you can tell me but also if you want to create an extended version of fifa club world cup that would be held every four years and twenty four club teams would take part i don't really understand the logic behind it i mean few play explains that this is actually a great idea it will bring more competition to the game will make it more interesting for the fans a couple points that i want to ask you about first of all. the football players i mean they'd be so tired of playing this endless tournaments because there are just so many of them you know save the world cup the regional champions champions league confort aeration cap olympic games. they need to also train and rest second of all

the fans i mean it's great to have a lot of competitions but wouldn't that also dilute their attention from the main thing which is the world cup yeah and also why would. anyone want to give up you know their money i'm talking about the u.s. clubs why would they want to be part of the fifa world club why the fifth of a cup is still number one needs a vote of any sporting event and it is in popularity five times more popular than the olympic games that i find out about that's what i can add to that i'm sorry but if a club world they want to build a crater that because the end of the question was the lead the world cup suffer the vocab in not stuff no matter what not where they were but the international coal and it was so difficult to bring an international cullen the together no we knew

competitions in these international calendar dates are nonsense because then the early degree gorean kalinda if city on that sixty five days so we should ask to have somebody another calendar five hundred days and then it would be possible and it is absolutely absolutely on the sole social or social. point of view it will always be the same clubs the same players the players they cannot it's impossible they have no more time to rest and if they have no more time to rest then they are injured and they are out. and this is another respect and not respect to the actors on the field of play that's first of all secondly the fans sorry defense and a certain time. they will have enough they will have enough because they open on

television there is always football soccer all around survival. and and there are so many competitions and the book which competition will then suffer the most if all this will be done by the national league and the football is first of all. for the national day of the game because it's a national food both nationally and if they try it even now in europe they try to put the good matches of the champions league and the end of the week and the end of the week has always been for the national football not only the professional football a matter of football and all those them play at the end of them and it's a normal respect these ideas it's a non respect to the players it's a known respect to the fans and fans are known or suspected the organization of

football football is organized through national association. he's is a not a somebody or a confederation of national associations so i get the two points thank you and that their point is about the clubs there operate inside their own federations like champions league is part of you have why would they ever want to give up their revenues to find a part of this new fifa club world cup for instance. so far so far and until the end of two fifteen. finances they that well i was very happy and proud to lead fifty. two point four billion one point four in the reserves one by one billion in cash but now fifa needs more money they need more money because they have changed the

managed. they have another approach new a new president here's another view how to organize fifa. as you have said the form of footballers that's ok but the form of football they need also the schooling to be in the position they are they are know how did they get it before the people there and so it is because people is looking for more money that they are coming with if these new ideas and there is somewhere this offer from from a consortium of banks. it is speaking about japan saudi arabia usa they have put together twenty five billion dollars. to get these two committed asian countries twenty tonight they want to invest twenty five billion a year to actually reform fifa to buy out to two competitions that are you cannot buy competitions and that will be like

a first time that you are selling competitions to a third party is it a good thing or a bad thing no. i've never in my in my forty one years in chief never sold any competition to a party symbolism. but oh so if this happens they are going to own fifty and they will be able to say where they want the competitions to be held right sure you cannot do football belongs not to fee for belongs not to your father football belongs to the two million two billion two billion. are on devolved this is what the football belongs and you cannot sell out don't football to move to another and to to another entity this is also from the floor so think point of view how how you organize football importance the social or cultural importance of the scheme for putting people. together but not abusing disc it is abusing this

game and abusing. players coaches everybody and the fans i talk to me about this possible investment of twenty five billion dollars into fee for reform i find it fascinating if you where right now active president of fifa you wouldn't take in those twenty five billion to reform no i would not sell out for such an investment if they want to give the fifa. twenty five million dollars but telling it is for development of football do it the best you can do then i will take it twenty five billion always comes with strings attached to their income as although it is given twenty five million for nothing and then now it's up to the fee for to decide on that but. i'm not convinced because it's

a new or it's a new era in fee for the sentence is absolutely wrong this is subset of the room so i just want to ask you a question about the world cup that's going to take place in russia i know that six countries have boycotted the world cup but they're not sending politicians and representatives but they're still sending their teams it's not like it's going to have any bearing on the competition itself so what is the point of this kind of a boycott is it going to affect the world cup in russia in any way you know. and i'm not so sure if the end they're not coming at all this i'm not so sure. we will see if by any chance. if they teach anyone to be doing well and just going to court a final or final then the people in london that they will be the be on their chairs. yes. to go and to turn ons and and then

boycott the competition because of the of the geopolitical situation in the verge let football bring people together and i'm sure that this vocal will be an exceptional goodwill cup on the field of play but also for the image for the fifa the image of russia to show that they are able to organize a vote up but russia has been in the past month past yes now so much under. pressure. but there was never. say a very concrete demand that invoke option not to play dead all those they don't like that the world cup is in russia sinking twice or three times to say no we should not go there we should boycott it know that it would not be good that

would not be good because it's in so don't let the food supply our house there it is russia our house. here football and politics together in steve they're both cup that gives no russia more power and this power host not to be it could. not those they're not there ok. so the twenty twenty six world cup will also have more teams competing it's going to be forty eight versus thirty two the problem with that in my opinion is that with more teams come. much more of a boring games i mean it's one thing to watch france and argentina everyone wants to watch it but like who wants to watch i don't know mel asia and saudi arabia play and there's going to like much more games like that i mean you tell me yourself in the ninety's there was like one of the most boring world cups how do you make sure

that more teams don't mean more boring football. what's wrong to play the first forty eight teams absolutely wrong. the the the number of thirty two. has now. a. system to play in certain days or the one days and where that definitely the best or then by any bad chance like like italy. and the netherlands for this time around that the forty eight teams footed teams will dilute the quality to it first and secondly they don't the problem is they want to play in the group specially and we have already played in groups by sweden spain the second part of the. world cup eighty two way and for the first twenty four teams and then you have groups by

three you have always a spectator one is not playing so the last match in a group by serie it is open for all. would say for all possible bad. thoughts that there are grounds for gold when you play and you speak about football and you speak about fixed matches of whatever not to play with your groups nicely is absolutely wrong totally wrong you're coming to the world cup to see the tournaments what do you expect to see me who are you going to. for i mean obviously this wests are going to be champions what do you think is going to take the silver. so ok.

now now i. guess the of of. mr putin president putin i have been there i'm honored to be in. there but anyway anyway. i have my opinion on the teams that would be. the best t.n.t. who i have four teams but i don't put them in one to four and put them together just for favorites who are there forty. for good to go to brazil. france germany spain you know argentina know. so it's wait and see thank you so much for this wonderful interview so much for this we. were expecting it to see you in

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