personality good to talk to thank you very much for your time thank you for seeing me now you are pretty controversial person in your own country many people consider you purposefully offensive and yet over the past few days that you've been here in russia in st petersburg you've only sat nice things that have this country honestly is not very used to hearing that it's things about itself being purposefully spiteful i saying all these things as a contrarian. people have been surprised by my reporting from st petersburg because i love this place i love the openness of it and it's been a real surprise to me we are i think in the west in my personal view you know putin is painted as a monster and this is very much the way of people almost actually of coming to russia because there's this idea that somehow a frightening place and all i've been trying to present to people and show people i think is that it's only ever what i feel or my truth and my truth from this place

is that i love it i feel very safe here much safer than in london for example and i also find people here to be really russian they identify as russian to me and that's a real difference from the country that i well let me pick up on that point because you had want specifically about st petersburg a lot of people you describe the city as a place untouched by the myth of multiculturalism and deranged diversity and i'm sure you seen all those dozens of replies of people pointing out to you the. most multicultural city in. all that and of course one hundred sixty nationalities are built by. the french and the buildings and the dutch name of what i mean we also have a very vibrant muslim community who petitioned this our first small task that is that you know i had it all i see that i get what people are saying i get them. but

when you come to some petersburg as an outsider and i'm an outsider it's russian people if you speak to people in the street or with help but i speak to people in the street they identify as russian first you go to the u.k. you won't find any of that russian mean and ethnic affiliation or it may mean a national affiliation so most of the different nationalities whom we all love to have in this city it would also identify as russian i wonder if you given that you hike it so much maybe multiculturalism is not such a bad thing after all no because i don't buy your definition of multiculturalism at all and just because you have one most with five thousand people able to fit into it that does not in any way replicate the europe that i know i've just come from belgium in fact the jihadi capital of europe where they have twenty two mosques in the six kilometer square do you have miles or kilometers here kilometer yeah six kilometer square area twenty two mobs so it's very different from me where i live

in terms of multiculturalism which is much more about monaco choose to live in ghettos and showed it's a very different definition to the one that you might understand i actually want to discuss that but before we do that many of the three of you have posted have these hash tag putin brock's to be yes which i find very ironic because here in russia you wouldn't be allowed by law to say or publish many things that you say about muslims in particular because in this society we do prioritize social cohesion over the freedom of speech and that has been like that over many years i would even argue centuries and i think it only intensified under putin do you still think your rocks. and rocks in many ways mostly sounds contrary to most of your ideas i mean he he would be absolutely appalled by many of the things you're saying about spine as well i think you started out by saying you know do we live in a society where we can disagree but still sit in the same room. my own thinks many

of my ideas of morally a poor that's absolutely his right to have his views i hold my views very clearly and very early for me i come from a country where there is an islamic takeover going on i come from a country where my daughter is our daughters are targeted by islamic jihad this and that's not i'm not free to say any of the things i was very wrong i mean i understand why baguley wrote to me because for too long the west has painted him as a monster and i don't think it's acceptable any longer should he be back in the g. eight absolutely does he need to have sanctions against him no i don't i don't have a problem with putin in the way that other people seem to or maybe you have i don't know if you follow statements but just last week he spoke again about the need to relax immigration rules and russia he specifically pointed out that you know people of all religious and ethnic backgrounds should be welcomed especially if they have some connection to russia or the so-called russian world hughes's to be far more

bullish on immigration particularly in muslim immigration than teresa mayes government does. you could be i don't know if you could down on you know if you could sort of cow in submission to religious more than we have we have to facto sharia law in the u.k. right now we prevented a journalist from coming into our country on the basis of future hate speech as yeah unsaid that is a bizarre situation to live in so i think we have it in this country also has a very peculiar understanding of the freedom of speech but you know bring it back to the muslim immigration or any immigration for that matter. i think the difference is how our society is handling it and in this country it would not be considered advisable to put people in high density neighborhoods they would be agreed. not only required to integrate but the state would actually facilitate that . on that you and i completely agree you know i've seen multiple examples in the no

go zones i've visited across europe where migrants are all packed away into the suburbs it never works it creates a situation where there's them and us if you go to sweden if you go to belgium if you go to parts of london those parts of london sweden belgium you can't walk anymore if you're a western woman and you have your hair uncovered you'll be spotted at and called white trash that's never going to work and if you have a system here where you are able to integrate of course that's going to work much better but we don't have multiculturalism it's what i was explaining to you we have a system of monocultures living in ghettos that's very different now much of russia's immigration comes from the so-called stance kazakstan to. stand and you're a famous or infamous for referring to london as london which you have to agree carries some juror to kind of tell it isn't majority vote in the us whereas if it sounds. the reason i called london last little i'm not

a star is because to me it's completely fallen to the control of the most lemaire can he is spectacularly useless at his job under city can there are some statistics that i'm sure neither you nor i could argue about in the sense that our murder rate is now higher than new york in the sense the all-star break is just going up by twenty five percent in the number of acid attacks that are happening sixteen moped attacks a day with hammers and machetes that's life in london and start under the muslim and what i see from that is the lack of control a lack of law and order and a political islam religion and politics are integrated and people vote according to their faith and that is not democracy for what you describe it in to have to be free of the. whole regime and your situation policies and yet the way you express it. and then logic brought us. sense because stance sounds mean

countries and on cities why does london is a country that a christian to you when i say it is pejorative yes i'm making their faith and you are mocking other countries rather than the u.k. authorities who are are not really. mocking the muslim man of love the country that he's built where eighty nine ninety five percent of some areas of i think about tower hamlets knew him eighty ninety percent muslim population that does not reflect multiculturalism that is not a multicultural country or city and when he speaks he speaks only for london and yet he appears to speak for the u.k. of someone like myself who comes from a place called the rest of the u.k. it's intensely frustrating but. i think you do understand that when you referred to londonistan people may draw conclusions about yourself without hearing your argument first because i think the point that you've been making about important

monoculture is yet exist in isolation this is a very valued. under discussed point in my theory it's a real sociological issue that has to be studied and yet that's that issue seems to be brushed under the table because people take a fancy to you don't you think that the style of your presentation undermines the very valid argument that you're making not for mine money because you know there is a part from the kind of social study of monocultures that i think is so imperative and that's why i've done the work i've done in sweden insistently all of the no go zones that i visit i do actually want city come to be out i want him out of office i want to champion getting even referring to london as i think we spend far too much time to toeing around issues these days i think it's one of the reasons i think your line of questioning is good because you come straight to the point and it's. very much the star that i use with my commentary specially if you use

a format like twitter you haven't got forty five minutes to check around the subject you've got a few words to make the result you respect i would never compare anyone to cockroaches i think you can find a more. expressive metaphor i mean i know there is this whole controversy about the i think it was very fair i think i think you're undermining the column which still stands today twenty fourteen if you bring it up i was going to talk about it twenty fourteen i wrote a column that compared migrants across the med to cope with it to give it reference cockroaches i sit there like cockroaches because they haven't in june they seemed to be able to survive no matter what we were told in schools the only creature that nuclear holocaust is cockroaches that still applies today and still the question is if we don't like arguing about it right you know it's a war it's rather than the issue you are trying to raise as we stop the boats no fifty nine hundred thirty two going to say well i'm going where that using

cockroach was a nice way i mean i mean while you are right which is where me resilience more well you could compare them to my questions and miles that would be a bizarre way of writing copy and very poor english but let me ask you a question the aquarius with i think it's six hundred thirty two hundred thirty two i apologize for not knowing let's say six hundred thirty two migrants on board it has nowhere to dock it's really just said no we won't have you tell me what would you do about that if you broke it you own it it was in part western and primarily u.k. policy that created the massively bit and if you created that lesson in those neighborhoods you should expect certain representations for yourself to someone you know. which port was really won't. you guys have to chip in as well. but that's no solution so why is it why is it not solution just for in country or to send a special forces there to hold a live there. and refused to accept them we shouldn't be running ferryboats across

the med that said oh yeah you were in congo and slate and what you're trying to tell me is that causes don't have consequences you are simply trying to wish them well something they're fleeing something in my opinion and it seems surprising to me either man a fighting age or running away but if it's that terrifying why do they have you know women have been children and i've been on the coast of southern italy trying to get those and i can tell you did they i do this because we completely disagree well we certainly disagree on that but i understand your point on immigration with this line of argument here also absolving your own to country solution and potentially lose their lives on the med. don't. welcome back to worlds

apart key to. just before the break we were told made earlier that you believe that obvious. ghettos of individual cultures times rather than true diversity yet he also wrote in your book and you may god be very attitude will thing in the sense of . tyler it will be destined if you think about it in the u.k. and it's one million in the u.k. it's muhammad it's the number two name in the u.k. so much it's i find that from a demographic perspective it's very frightening that actually by twenty find that actually quite distressing you know i have a kid who is born into a muslim father he's four years old called moment. and it is a muslim name but is it my home it's called mohammed so how do you know it. i think in russia i would have left her problem a question if you have a list of how but add first let me ask your question would you ban your kids from playing with my cat because he has. as long as he had i mean that was a cute movie. like with their names but it was about the fact that they were maybe

would turn up to school without a home what they turn up without the right uniform they don't have the manners that i prefer for my children and i am. muslim families are not as. it was never about muslim families it was about the types of families that i met in the school playground and the types of moms but i wasn't particularly keen on whatever we say we all know the mums that we like and the mums that we don't like i was just really honest about it but regardless of whether you were referring to read isn't that a fundamentally anti-christian thing to say because you know you talk i don't know how many things in my life i am not a good ambassador for the christian religion and i think that a lot about christian values and a painting there you know i'm just criticising my size because like if you see any of the stuff that i've done i mean i think many christians would want to distance themselves from me entirely but what i noticed about people with strong beliefs particularly here in st petersburg you know it's a joy to be surrounded by so many christian churches by the author docs people that

believe so strongly ninety percent of people here and you know that i guess key thing i've finished the second thing i really think about the christian faith because of being persecuted is there's a real belief in god in the land and people need something to believe in and i really respect that even though i'm a bad pastor for christianity let me correct you a little bit because going to try creates that this is one of the most atheists you know about that so you want well i'm very christian feeling city well let me ask me why do we want the i.r.s. or the beholder but if you actually pull people let me know is that your question so you have a muslim husband right you know let me ask you a question. for him islam is so fantastic why did muslims always flee to christian countries i want to hear why because christian countries or western countries to be more precise tend to send troops to their countries destroy their homes and i can them out of their neighborhoods that's why. because

why come to christian countries why not go to saudi or another muslim country well because saudi does saudi arabia actively prevent. that muslim neighbors from going there and are the government over the years why they decided to prevent migrants going there look i'm not an ambassador for the for the saudi government but i was very very why you think it is your ground it is a repressive government isn't it because christian lands are free and tolerant and open it is not the very thing that muslims try and change when they arrive in our country that's my question and my challenge in the u.k. when you when you say that i don't have an answer i don't see all around when when you actually open tolerant welcoming enabling people to practice religion and then they try and take over and here you actively and publicly advocate for the rejection for the shining of children for the ostracizing and of children based on their names yes and you called a tolerant an open door i'm not saying i've said a million times i'm not a great ambassador for being christian but i'm asking you why do muslims always

seem to come to christian countries and then want to take over what i thought they're actually trying to ask her because so many western countries wage wars on my why go that why not go out why not go to another country where when your house is present in the home when you have a kid on your hands and you try to find any refuge literally you would go across the map mediterranean even if you don't know how to swim you would do anything possible for you. and your although we don't see any women and children on the boat we deceived even though i would agree that the primarily six hundred twenty something on the equator is eleven children we don't see many women and children i promise you while i have reported extensively from the ground both and we've been serious and believe me i also i think you have for me some credibility and there are i'm not wearing your head over the children in desperate conditions but it is more difficult for them to move around that's for sure now. i want you long enough to conclude that there are some issues that are very close to your heart that i

think you believe in passionately and yet there are those things that you seem to be if they're out there out there for controversy to simply propel your argument can you yourself tell one from the other i think it's trite to imagine that i say things just to be controversial and you would not withstand the level of attacks of police harassment of detention of having my passport taken of social services being called on my children my family being under threat of having to jihad these plot to behead me in nov twenty seventh i don't believe you would withstand those levels of people trial trying to silence you if you didn't believe what you said it may convince you or not i'm not seeking to i'm only trying to give people an understanding of what it's like to try and speak freely and openly with my views which are known for being very strong so you would have to really question yourself

why would i do this if i didn't really believe what i say and i believe my country can be better i believe in donald trump but i believe japan russia and america are going to be the three leaders that fight back against the globalist so that's my kind of part of my enthusiasm for putin here as well you mention the silencing of dissenting view yeah i totally hear your i personally have been looked into by a couple of times but i would at least agree with you that there is a political censorship or a liberal political censorship going on in a number of western countries but when i hear certain views again and postulating that children could be mistreated because of that names that's that's that's not that is not a fair summary of what i've said i don't let people know that it's not a fair summary of what i said i said i would invite certain children to my house if they know you know it's not me. i don't know when you are feeling rejected it

feeling rejected is pretty painful for a child i can tell you from my own experience i'm pretty sure you have that experience yourself in your life so when you say that certain children are not to be engaged in families to be looked down to and you know healing that point. there's plenty of other arguments we could have apart for child children's names anyway when you raise an issue like that some people may indeed support the argument for a certain degree of censorship don't you think that by laying out something as controversial as we just discussed you're actually providing motive i guess i think it is really i mean it's really a new political arena really fast point i think the reason i have so much support the reason i have a close to a million followers on twitter the reason the articles i put on most read and most viewed is because people identify with the things i'm saying because what we no longer have in the society of people that will tell the truth to power and i'm not a tool frightened of that i'm not at all frightened of saying we need my country

back we should not be bound down to people who there are no different things very much difference about between criticizing your government on irresponsible migration policy or size arrant talking about children no i don't you know there is just not in discussing this not as a mayor as don't deserve to be parents they aren't good enough parents also but how you treat you just taking offense on behalf of other people many people agree with me and disagree with you that's also ok we can be relaxed about it and but i don't understand why do you have to because you know we are only ever seriously very passionate why do you have to meet your various i don't mean in time a wife i'm a pretty poor christian i'm a traveler i'm an anti immigrant kind of personality i believe in politics and many things i'm not just the kind of person that sits in front a camera a big part of who i am is a mom and the moms who don't really deserve to be moms because they don't bring

their children up properly since our time is running out i do want to ask you one more question about censorship i know that you are very concerned about the tommy robinson case a very swift sentencing and jailing of a person. for the reporting on a politically sensitive case in defiance of a court order ad majority pakistani muslim paedophiles from what i know the british system has a long tradition of legal precedents do you fear that you yourself with the views that you hold may find yourself in a similar legal situation i imagine are already on top of the list now for being imprisoned for my views and what concerns me about the majority months and secondly i see it very much you have the scripts soil i don't see the government is asserting that you may be next is that going to change the way you know not at all you want it or if i'm imprisoned for my few seanie i'm media pay just for me to see

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