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you know he and he this is going to be here is reagan and gorbachev moment you know you once this is his historic moment that he's going to do something that no one else has done but you have to balance that with his policy on iran because on the on iran he is far more belligerent than his predecessors were and he seems to be moving towards a very serious confrontation there i mean he has a few more conciliatory things about iran in recent days but they're i don't think it's very likely that they'll be any change there and similarly i think in the case of syria i think we can expect more belligerence from the united states there's a while yes he's doing a good job on korea when it comes to the middle east i think it's a he's being more belligerent than his predecessors you know michael is it because trump doesn't really care about the middle east he thinks letty is israelis and the saudis figure it out for him because north korea is that his nobel prize that's him that's all about him he's taken this he's taken on board i mean it seems you could
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interpret it thout way because i mean his behavior in the middle east is in my opinion just disastrous go ahead michael before we go to the break. yeah i don't i you and i have disagreed on this before peter but smart people can do that i think the is his embracing of the arabs against the persians if you can go back to the ancient descriptions is trying to move the geo political center of the of the middle east back to the arab side away from its hungry and and formerly aggressive neighbors and i think the difference between korea and iran very quickly is because iran exports its pain korea in internalizes most of its pain except for an occasional threat to blow somebody up and so i think that you can take korea and iran in very different sips but both of them are being dealt with fairly aggressively by this administration and i think i think successfully thus far well we haven't come any closer in our disagreement on that all right gentlemen we're going to go to a short break and after that short break we'll continue our discussion on the old
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world order state with our. international recognition with the help of israel at least in the world of zoos and dismiss it to me like you know. this is my complicity is going to study hall meeting. with. the only palestinians who gets the most help from these two recent counterparts i don't think there's some of those who are under the vision that only could do this. and that's not just you have to this lady in the muscle that you have i mean if you compete in the customs you know do more. companies on.
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twenty eighteen coverage we've signed one of the greatest goalkeepers of all suck but there was one more question by the way who's going to be our coach. guys i know you are nervous is a huge star among us and the huge amount of pressure can remap you have to come in eighty percent of the tell with you and do all the great the greatest good you are the rock at the back nobody gets past you we need you to get down the way let's go . alone and just i want to you know and i'm really happy to join the team for the two thousand and thirteen world cup in russia meet the special one i was also. needs to just take the radio p.r.t. teams latest edition to make up a bigger need to just say look. all
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my. kids seem completely stable boy tonight. even though they can. move on which i didn't get showed up to move this because of who i'm listening to who can get on the field you can show. them we must. not so much. cause it is a constant you know how many others. welcome back across the uk or all things are considered i'm peter l. to remind you we're discussing the old world order.
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ok let me go back to john in washington i think one thing that is clear and i don't think we are there's really much disagreement about is that donald trump seems to be almost obsessed with undoing obama's legacy ok i'm just putting that out there ok so john i mean if trump is juxtaposing his foreign policy to his the his predecessor what work what are the confines and you've met already mentioned that it's more realistic i would agree with that ok but what does trump want to achieve in his first four years in office because presumably he wants to be there for eight what kind what's trump world look like let's say after eight years go ahead john. well i think i think we've already covered some of that but yeah he he wants to distance himself from his predecessors and to make his own mark not
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just distance from obama but even republic recent republican presidents so i think trump is much more numerous he is able to tally up costs and benefits and maybe a tendency to look at things in zero sum terms and he relies much more on feel on charisma. and deal with his perceived dealmaking ability and so he's prepared to strike off a new directions and in the case of the korean problem i think this is long overdue the policy of strategic patience i think was abysmal failure and i'm actually surprised that some of the people who are behind this policy are showing up now and criticizing trump's initiative so i think he's done a great job on korea and let's let's hope he can pull it off now there was
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a reluctance among the japanese but i think they've accommodated themselves to that prime minister obvious policy is beginning to shift in the direction of trump and of course in south korea he has a progressive president who is very supportive of what he's trying to do so who knows maybe we'll get progress on the korean issue which is the most pressing security issue in the world right now i would argue and. george that john just mentioned charisma i mean i if i remember my mocks baber a very well you know i thought charisma died in maternity i think this is a this is one of the i just think i think it's a fascinating now it's a fascinating point because that's why the rest of the world doesn't understand him they don't understand him because he is a correspondent figure because the europeans and their postmodernists mind couldn't see charisma if it had him in the face going to george. yes you know you're absolutely right about the the waiver because it was after it
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was john f. kennedy that there was reintroduce that charisma and so on the people were thinking back of that relaxed way that. so yeah i think that's right that he is a somebody who is a charismatic figure and he's a you and he does want to shake things up but you could also look at the on the other side he is consolidating the russia china block and really you know he has campaigned essentially that he hadn't said it explicitly to break up that russia china bloc whether that's feasible or not that's a that's a different matter but he wanted to break that up because you know in the he has i think has a sort of that next only a real as them about him which is that this is a this is a bad thing for america when russia and china close together so what is dial doing is is pushing the two of them together and he you know he's done nothing in order to to improve relations with russia. and everything that he's doing now
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particularly when he's actually hitting the europeans for having the temerity to get their gas cheaper from russia than from america that's are they going to. american block exactly exactly you know the horror of it they want to get a better deal oh my goodness my god i'm glad george brought that i'm glad george brought that up because i i you may know more about this than i do but my sense is that steve bannon was kind of an influence on trump out ways that you know the u.s. and and russia shouldn't be enemies maybe they won't be great friends but they shouldn't be enemies but believing that they could pull russia and china apart in two thousand eight hundred i think is kind of naive now that train has left the station it's not going to go but we have to remind our viewers because west western media won't do it who is meeting during the. seven halfway around the world the chinese and the russians ok at the same time that i lament that very much and i think this whole ridiculous russia gate thing has derailed relations maybe for
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a generation and and i find it lamentable and john can speak to this i mean how the mainstream media and the democrats have just you know just gone into trying for this north korean thing if it doesn't work it doesn't work but by god history's going to remember that he tried he's not going have a chance to try with russia michael go ahead. yeah i i don't know that i agree with george completely i don't know if trump is bent on separating china and russia as much as he's bent on joining them together perhaps our interests in north korea are virtually identical and i think that was the reason for the china russia meeting at the same time while the singapore meeting was going on much of the same discussion was going on in that meeting and the chinese had very very successful and conciliatory moves to help with his policies with regard to their boat the deployment of military forces. trump has recently asked for russia to be re
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answered to the g. seven making of the g eight of the g eight plus water whatever it is and is regularly saying well the three things about germany he although they struggle over over trade and other issues i think there is an understanding that by the trump of ministration that there is some interest in having equal trade partners and if you call we's think of trump in the focus of trade and trade deals his it is conciliation or his bluster as it may be from one day the next about these guys is about making the deal yeah more than about having permanent relations or permanent enemies that's a very that's a very fair point you know john one of the things the this is where the when i started out with america first in the in the in the liberal order see michael just hit the nail on the head i mean this is ministration is very focused on the balance sheet when we get out of it see but america's allies either an envelop did or
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absorbed it or you know i don't know they think in terms of values all the time western values all the time and they're not practiced very well the european union is not particularly democratic ok so i have a lot of these populist movements coming up the fact that trump was elected also talks about how people feel about the country i mean we had the the democratic primary rigged i mean you know did democracy and all these other things people talk about it's a lot of it is hypocrisy and that's why trump if you agree with disagree them in a way is kind of a breath of fresh air because you know where you stand all the time go ahead john. i think the main problem with. the mainstream u.s. approach to foreign policy is the absence of self reflection i agree let me give you a quick example everyone's talking about the north korean gulag and oh my god they have. so many people in jail no one ever thinks to
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look at the comparative dimension of this the there is almost almost one percent of the u.s. population is incarcerated it's the highest rate in the world now they stick around for a long time they don't die off so i suppose you could you could say that in defense of u.s. prison policy but we're very quick to condemn other countries and never really suffer reflect what is the matter in our system so i think that. i give trump credit. reluctant to say this too much because i was brought up as a democrat i've been a registered democrat all my life but this is a kind of crossover leader and i think he is attracting as maybe it was george that said this he says attracting crossover voters so let's see what happens
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if he makes a go of korea i think he's got a second term ok and i think it's that simple oh i think it's still going to be the economy but if he can go on the campaign trail walking around with that medal that nobel prize well medal maybe that'll impress some people here i know some of his base is interested in that you know george i'm really glad that you know we're talking about this dimension of it because you know north korea is gulags and all that i mean what about beheading and stoning of people in saudi arabia i mean that doesn't really make any news in the united states i mean if you're an expert in the field you'll know about that and never makes that the mainstream news i mean virtual genocide is being committed in yemen and western countries are involved in that never is ever mention but you know and that day and that's not to dismiss human rights violations in north korea but this is what they the liberals in the media always do they always attach these other things on that's why i am a proponent of the iran deal it was about one thing and one thing only it could
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have been a demonstration effect for other things later unfortunately that's where i disagree with the current president go ahead george. yes yes yes that's exactly so so whenever american talking heads and policy makers pundits come along and say well we americans we really care so much of our values they only have a care about values about certain countries the country is a well regarded this adversaries of the united states so suddenly we really really care about human rights in north korea couldn't care less about human rights in saudi arabia human rights in. in the yemen i mean is israel can kill any number of people who are getting gaza and nikki haley would just shrug their shoulders and say it was all the fault of hamas and iran so you know like human rights is only ever brought up in as a not as i know the cultural to be the perceived adversaries of the united states
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and i thought well trump is refreshing live free of all this can't about human rights he nonetheless still comes up with this nonsense when it comes to talking about iran and of course you remember what he talks about syria remember all those beautiful babies and it was terrible that assad is an animal murdering the beautiful little babies so he's also not free from this kind of emotional moralistic rhetoric but if but the police on career he has been refreshing the free of the right let me give them a go you know let me go to michael last word your dip a trump supported last thirty seconds go to you my friend. i agree and i disagree with george i think trump in finding his feet in the white house had a lot of influence on him and i think a lot of it was good and a lot of it was bad and i think as he progresses he's going to be less talking about the beautiful babies although i also cringed when you were when you said that
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because you're right but i think you're going to have more real politic talk about real interactions with real countries as opposed to the. oh showing were very well acted by you to follow it sort of about its official on this program the new world order started thank you gentlemen we've run out of time many thanks to my guests in washington and in new york thanks to our viewers for watching us here at r.t.c. next time and remember. cut cut cut cut cut.
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isn't only about what happens on the pitch put a funnel school it's about the passion from the fans it's the age of the superman he just killed the narrowness and spending to do the twenty million and one player . it's an experience like nothing else going to because i want to share what i think what i know about the beautiful guy a great so what will transpire. and thinks it's going to.
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day two of the world cup so all portugal tickle and big spain where the final whistle has just gone in saw and what was a breathtaking clash between the two keepers. the two other matches this friday how dramatic finishes. played in greensburg on the run took on the rocco in sin eater's. course this hour donald trump sees a meeting with who could be in the cards this summer and suggest that the g eight should be revived with russia. at r.t. hears from a lawyer representing a group of survivors and families of the victims of the twenty fifth terror they
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have filed a lawsuit against the french government alleging its response to the atrocity in paris was inadequate. by from our new center in moscow this is r.t. international my names you know neal and you're very welcome to the program. it is a day to get out the twenty eighteen world cup here in russia where friday's final clash. just wrapped up was a storming encounter as spain took on neighbors portugal earlier you're acquiring went head to head with egypt under run took on morocco in st petersburg let's get the story of the day and go live now to central moscow where a special team is standing by.
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hello again on if they want anything more to finish they say with this world cup no less than an inch from my cold chisel and playing for three three and i started thinking michelle there with her hand and we thought is for my money like this like thing and. it is still on all of this j's a i love that max is unusual i wasn't as a political fan knows. again i have to admit. like i was saying in the first in the first gulf war as happened when i was not expecting too much. and. i have to say that for me there was a game. and the game after. the game
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trained for the first time. the portuguese central defenders the they were able to come up they were not afraid of the space behind them they were more confident that brought the team up. in the last ten fifteen minutes. and was when. the free kick situation arrived intelligent experienced christiane looking for that for that's to keep. the position that he loves. amazing freekick not transfer of it. not feel it was a fair result overall three three icing so because i don't think anything was perfect i don't think it was. able to be to be dominant for the ninety minutes i think some of the goals. the goals that you make because not to sleep well after. not just the
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kind of individual mistakes like that you had which you just part of the football but for example does the spain second. a free kick from that position. a small ball solo gathers marking the far post against a tollbooth kid stuff has the ball into the space i think a few a few mistakes of a of two teams full of a stop players chill at halftime. when we spoke at halftime he said portugal are comfortable here and tactically perhaps spain had to do something different did they do something different in the second i don't think they did so i just i was speaking with you about portugal trying to sort of go trying to transform. in locations to transform all four cajuns in zero occasions because for seventy five not seventy five for thirty minutes in the
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second in the second half portugal was not even able to connect two passes of portugal become just a low block with an isolated cristiano and not venture for spain spain had the ball and by having the ball there were always in control but even the goals they bond i don't feel them consequences has that control is is a very bad goal to concede the second goal at the serve the ball normally pepper has to. you into press silver in the box then he does and then the ball comes after and then natural which is not a very offensive a right back appears in the position for a great short reach. and still has a portuguese i'm happy but as as a not sure a good friend i'm happy because you had the stem of the penalty on the first
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minutes he hands the game we did different with a different stamp of a fantastic shot ok let's put some pictures what we've been talking about so i think we've got the goals to show you things so let's start with the first one in the very first minute here we are renowned with a penalty. and didn't look like he was going to me stealing very confident. he made a decision before he goes you goals high even if that really goes to goes to that side no chance the ball is fast fantastic panel not long after diego costa was causing all sorts of problems was nice and big man put himself at that and we can have a look at the second goal i mean this is what he's all about as you know the picture has five portuguese players the portuguese a goalkeeper india will cost general cross to score in the middle of five red shirts but everything starts weeds along the ball we train all year who is the only one in spain that capable of step and then as i was saying at the off time ever
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must be ready for that experience play a strong player too i think you should be happy for that for the dual but a little bit more protection for the second ball and all the red players were not able to kill that second ball in the india or else it will blow short your chance for the keeper now just before half time great goal for portugal great time to score a goal now there again let's say this one. is my boy yes you heard me to say but. you know you know is a bad is a bad mistake is a mistake that it doesn't it does united player of the season fantastic performances but that happens to the best but. the good thing with the best is that in the next match you with they're not afraid confident to go and ready to help with them is
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a goal with. its face so the one in fast time and i thought certainly looking at this going to tell there's a lot at stake a lot of pride at stake today you can sense it was rivalry between these two teams and when they came back out of course it wasn't long before we got another goal was let's see the next gold i think was an equaliser there for him at the cost. of not possible because. sometimes. sometimes when managers we feel a little bit like be treated by players the seasons on the beach sometimes in the heat they're not able to sing. sometimes that is a little bit of luck of leadership on the beach because sometimes we are not able to communicate is not possible gonzalo get us to mark the last the last position on on the song to be challenging india by a top player like skids and then we also missed the second ball in the face of the
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ball but is a very good will to concede the second all starts you have to go solid you have to work to try to create emotional problems for a team that is losing two one and you give them the chance to get into the game with a bible show i case that made its a tourney and then i went ahead didn't know it with a great strike analysis show you this thing you know he's unstoppable unstoppable you think he knows that the sport is now he doesn't need to see the ball in in the net to know that just for the fly of the ball is beautiful he needs the ball with. you used to call the three fingers which is the external part of of the food no chance for the keeper because a wall gives an impossible fly for for him is a fantastic struck but starts weeds challenging the walks between fair play and silver pepper has to press not to commit too much maybe was afraid to do to make a penalty but he has to make it short and to try to win the ball there and then the
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ball comes into a space where a natural comes and probably. fernandez was more focused in close the inside space even probably the manager told him that natural is not a very offensive fullback so much more important for him to close the inside space than for example in the other side jordi alba which is a play that he's getting there paul the time so it's probably the goal. you don't feel that you're going to lose your sleep because of it because it's a google q ok we'll just let you know what i'm mobilizing for the next go to like it's worth waiting for now that scoring that freaking but what a player i mean from the first minute until the last minute you always felt he was the man on the totally just just looking at his face you can sense that he's the one out there that might change things and this is. what i used to call.
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