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worst humanitarian crisis as we go to yemen where british weaponry is threatening millions plus from this week's headlines chaos and hypocrisy in the conservative party all this more coming up in today's going underground but first this right all the anti trump words of jeremy corbin's labor party the leader of western europe's largest socialist movement perhaps indicated his support for the u.s. president's meeting with north korea's kim jong un at this week's pm cuse while channeling the british foreign secretary when the prime minister met president donald trump last week did she do as the foreign secretary suggested and ask him to take over the brakes at negotiations. before the pm could answer the speaker had to intervene. oh i just have to ask mr davis that probably wasn't a reference to breakfast secretary david davis anyway breaks it is going swimmingly we are working to ensure that we can have our future customs arrangements in place
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on the first of january twenty twenty one who'll be the last when the government would publish its promised breck's it plans when is the government's bricks white paper going to be published corben said it was supposed to come up before this month's e.u. summit but for tourism many breaks it is not an issue at the summit the issue is declaring economic war on the hosts of this year's world cup it will be many issues that the european union leaders will be discussing at the june european summit including the important issue of sanctions against russia to resume still not arguably understanding where germany's energy supplies come from but may had more on the war a war she said was breaking out in the labor party it's all very well but it's really pointing like that. is members of the labor party circulating instruction manuals on how to tease so let all the ladies i called in support as it should be. ditto cock
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a hoop about kicking blairites out of corbin's polity the man himself replied in nuclear i may now be a meltdown. god the but meltdown was not a call being a word it was a boris johnson word and then not actually my words but those of the foreign secretary further chaotic wrecks it questions were followed by this after the speaker kicked out the leader of the scottish nationalists in parliament. but it was. the third largest party in parliament the s.n.p. walked out all mass meaning to nationalist parties the s n b n g and fein were no longer represented in parliament but ironically in washington debate dissented not so much on the power of its palm and or its executive this week's us inspector general report has put the spotlight on power being concentrated in the so-called deep states joining me now is someone who is tipped to be donald trump's man in the
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european union profess a tad man like he is the author of the plot to destroy trump how the deep state fabricated the russian dossier to subvert the president thanks for the governing back on i know you don't talk so much about being detained in the airports over the book maybe aust about julian assange and the ecuadorian embassy do you believe you and others are being targeted for your allegiance to a sitting u.s. president while i think all the trump supporters. have a big red target painted a bull's eye on their back so the we don't carry great favor either with the media or with the deep state yeah i think many people would agree with you when you're when you talk about the media child getting support is good liberals hate jump. who else who else is well there are never trump or so as well in the republican party who have not gone away as well as some of the what i called the g o e the grand old establishment and they're still i mean this about what's going on i think trump has
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taken over the american political scene surely as president he's running the republican party but he has enemies and there are midterm elections coming up and there are people who are always trying to sabotage what he's doing so he has an uphill push and he still succeeding well i want to get on to some of that success in career in a moment let's just turn your book the other way as it were in the appendices you mentioned you're reproduce the d.-i a defense intelligence agency document which this show is involved in what did you think of it when it was produced about the reasons for twelve if you are in writing this book which i wrote about six months ago i started a really wanted to put together this big jigsaw puzzle which has over a thousand pieces and you know the every day person could be rather. confused by it all lots of names lots of movements lots and lots of art some russia
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but you know russia collusion collusion collusion but i wanted to put it all together and into a puzzle and make it readable so hopefully the book is readable some people have called it a kind of dan brown page burner so i've written it in a style that i don't always write and a little glee so it's written in a way that people this is no academic to me but it does contain all the i mean as robert miller read it you know i think everyone has read it now as well but at the end of the book we also wanted to put on these documents that again are referred to in the press all the time some of them coming from the intelligence assessments some of the letters from the committees in congress but also this is a very curious i think very dubious on verified thirty five page dossier. from christopher steele it's referred to all the time i think it's the centerpiece of this whole control of it is media it is you just cost out the whole provenance of this report even though all the let's let's speak very clear about it it is it is
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paid for by opposition research by an opposition research firm called fusion g.p.s. that is funded by the democratic national committee and by the hillary clinton campaign and it's used as dirt on trump it's all invented stuff it's not verified in the least and the sourcing is not even clear so is it if it is that intelligence no it's not intelligence do intelligent people taken seriously unfortunately some people do and they shouldn't to be fair the f.b.i. cut off their relations are this m i six been. talking to yahoo news tell me about this research that you seem to tell me i hadn't come across it before and about russia's nuclear agency and the canadian company your ring him one with mining interests in all this uranium one scandal is of course at the core take it as it already oh oh. there's a canadian think goes through who becomes involved with the uranium market and is
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able to put this merger together of companies to control certain uranium interest sense of buying in in you know uranium firm in the u.s. selling those interests to this firm in eurasia and what's not going to do it trump it's very interesting because it gets very large profits in this deal and it's so interesting that he is the largest donor to the clinton foundation over hundred million dollars personally. and is this just a coincidence read the book and see i think it's the real rush occlusion story is this russian delusion story or the words that they were. gains that the clintons are going to make one hundred forty five million dollars in their foundation james clapper doesn't come off very well in your book you know i think he's been roundly criticized now for what he is a leaker and a liar so he is along with the former cia head the very.
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dubious. john brennan i think actually at the core of what i would call this trump russia conspiracy this was invented in the united states professor. steven cohen at princeton university calls it intel gate i call it the red november conspiracy this is something that was conspire to in fact between fusion g.p.s. and the cia we love james clavell to come on the show of course but then you see patterns here the previous times where intelligence is used in ways to persuade what is interesting because clapper was in fact the person who brought us the other question will story in recent history about the infamous. w m d in iraq so i call it deja vu all over again here he is delivering
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a message in this sequence if some of us may think we're exaggerating this power of the so-called deep state i mean that we see your alive and present to live how powerful that i know you try to strike some kind of optimistic note in the well i don't use the term pejoratively i think just from a social science perspective there is such a thing as a deep state they have enormous power they are on the elected bureaucrats and in the case of certain departments certain bureaus they have power that would actually shock most americans and most people i think the same existence of the deep state you know is present in the u.k. is present in the european democracies and is ever present in the european union which i've been critical of in the past debt is the u.s. ambassador to the right now do you see as as of what i'm hopeful that the state department is vetting some candidates because it would be beneficial i think to
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have american representation in brussels particularly because it's such a protectionist regime and that should be exposed to job it out but is a view of the brakes in negotiations do you. studying to think that the deep state is basically winning this battle in the votes of the people i am concerned about democracy in that sense. we you know brits should not have to vote three four times to get their breaks it out come they voted once it was a term of votes and in my view it should have been executed if not immediately within a year it shouldn't be something that's the go see it at this stage i would have attended it the civil service is obviously trying to overturn it and tried to make all kinds of roadblocks and to make it very difficult and to complicate the. process how shocked have you been. about the response to the unprecedented
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historic meeting in singapore between you know president and kim jong un well i'm actually a. bit stupefied because i think it's rather stunning that the president could of with the help of the south koreans and the help of the chinese and the su perle it of efforts of his new secretary of state mike on paper whose test is going to be now to actually work all the details on this agreement that he's been able to pull this off and the american little one is quite supportive but the american media sounds like they'd rather have a thermonuclear war with thirty thirty million people dead than peace in the korean peninsula and thank you it would be with after the break we look at some of the week's top stories with one of prime minister drazen maysville my home office ministers and goods and i to see how you can export to saudi arabia contribute to
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that's sort of the. lateral and they land against property and what happens prices are artificially pumped up and jacked up and some people can't afford housing the way to fix the housing problem in the u.k. is a take away this fractional reserve banking as property so that prices would come down to the level that is traditionally affordable by the average person in french. welcome back to go through some of this week's headlines now i'm joined by recording artist and former u.k. home office minister norman bacon all that thanks for coming on the show away from
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all the politics of the world cup tournament very interesting matches i think of the us today's particularly surprising some of the results well it was surprising results in football but i have to confess was a cricket fan i would be more encouraged by the five to scotland beating but recently. i think the world isn't watching cricket i can see that ok more serious things now let's go straight to a call been space welcome space in the headlines here under smith it's time to sing the last throws council sponsored almost for this is the view of the campaign against the right. to such a bench be taking place we're told in glasgow i think is a bit over the top to be honest with you and you have to ask yourself why it is that so many british arms have ended up for example blowing people in the m. and i'm good i've got an idea why be involved in the building of today's report this week because when you were in government in the. i'm a as a secretary being sold to the saudis being used in the area for training their
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pilots as if i was having unlimited autocratic powers donald trump or blogger putin perhaps i could have stopped that but my remit was a narrow one in the home office and before that the public transport but i did i was in saudi arabia myself and even the crown prince said to me at the time you know why is it you're british you're always trying to sell arms why don't you try and help us with other matters and they were busy buying some. equipment i think from the french at the time so yes we do over stretched sales in this country of course that makes as reluctant to criticize governments when they behave in a way that we regard as distasteful well let's go into the next story which has been dominating home affairs in this country there's a march to downing street about this evening yes look at the good old guardian farther up in london last year this was on the day of course when people were marking one year on from greenwich all tower blocks one year after grenfell and of course i would have to label didn't know they did dollars unfortunately but nevertheless it's a very sensitive matter when you have foreign top blokes and the issue really is
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whether or not enough has been done or you're wrong to recognise a potential problems in far in tower blocks this one on the one of the two from south london yet either you miles from never close had very much on here and of course was abolishing going on the moment but that had a sprinkler system and people therefore were able to to have some reassurance that the farmers would be can believe repeatedly heard from people visit with the government it's because i'm not necessary at all i think we need to be there to be honest with you some reports of the alarms going off on this indeed on that gavin bar well who is a maze chief of staff will be good visor was the housing minister accused of sitting on the on a previous inquiry into a fire his famous footage from the river murdoch sky. attempts to try to get him to be just rushing off and not speaking about it well i think it's pretty shameful to be honest with you to people should face up to the positions they've taken to defend them and if you have a reason for the action he took you should explain them. well let's go to the biggest issue of this country arguably of the continent this is from the huffington post boris johnson office during the cold and box to reason may over tell you
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brought such divisions in this is from private questions on wednesday when jeremy coleman who's getting better at promises questions i'm amused to be suggested that in a lighthearted fashion no doubt the donald trump might be a better negotiator than three's a mate because that's what boris johnson said in a private meeting which was an elite i'm sure bill was perfectly happy but leapai was smiling yes he was smiling about promises questions but the real problem for britain is not really the internal machinations of the tory party except that those nose in the labor party as well are affecting negotiations with the e.u. and both parties both major parties are kicking the can down the road so far but the road to dead end didn't run out very shortly or we might get exactly what the liberal democrat party one day anyway which is a move a turning of the record really residue we need because the price of the servants don't want break of course at the polls and they say it's a total disaster and every single option on the table even the best option is worse than we have at the moment jacoby was definitely joking when he when he said
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something like to resume should offer to europe as a bargaining position but he was as you probably did with your ear he was joking but actually we've got to sort out the internal problems of the labor party and tory party both in it for internal reasons are going way down the road the losing patients are running out of time ok if the big trade wars of trade deals the future big issue let's go to your next story about a big issue here of social care which arguably lost resume a majority at the last election well indeed just from the wood to the dixon paper tory m.p. david davies suggests the n.h.s. shouldn't fund life extending drugs for the elderly now this is a of loads wouldn't it if the old just died with no medicine no doubt it would and of course this is hypocritical because you do exactly the opposite position what he was criticised in the welsh government which is labor run about three or four years earlier so i think people get fed up with hypocrisy from politics that are pretty outrageous well i mean yes not right just. sense you can't just switch machines off in the people dari drugs of a different guy goes according to. india's former drug illegal drugs well illegal
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drugs illegal drugs minister we're illegal as well illegal in this country but not illegal elsewhere and the fact of the matter is there was a very strong case for kind of fish being used for medicinal purposes as it has in many countries concerned an epileptic fit with the mother with the medicine kind of . bring it in the country because that's what he needs and i know plenty of people from my experience drugs minister who rely on kind of just to do with their medical conditions when nothing else works why don't you do anything when you well i did i probably should first independent report on drugs for forty three years when i was locked minister and i also cannot called for medicinal kind of to prevent legal and . david cameron think if i got support from jeremy hunt about a part of the time when he was was a news article today it's very well the government's position is they should remain illegal and. needs more proof your bank attack you and now we're going to go straight to yemen where the government arms sales we just mentioned according to
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u.n. reports are having a catastrophic effect joining me now from the country's capital sanaa is journalist hussain of the coffee house saying welcome back to going underground we just talked to the british foreign office they've told us that britain is indeed involved in the targeting of aerial bombardment of yemen what's your understanding of the latest fighting in yemen's main port city of the data the saudi the coalition. and we believe that they have got the green light from. the united states from the u.k. to advance toward the day and he see them up. among course doing the advanced they just advanced in there in the course. of yemen they only control about five to ten kilometers of the coast because they just want to teach her. they want to put her data back on the map and i think they know that her data is so vital for the
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humanitarian aid getting into yemen so they want to bring it back into the map to have pressure on. the hoti and yemeni army loyal to them to withdraw from the city and its ports and this is actually show you clearly how saudi that coalition backed by u.k. and united states is actually using the humanitarian. aid and the last line for millions of yemeni using it as a weapons to tell the host the other side to control the port either you withdraw all we can just attack the city and you are you going to be responsible for all the death and for the destruction of what's left of our data but actually is not the host the who obstructed they went ahead and aid coming into yemen we remember that in the first weeks of the saudi led coalition war in yemen they have targeted are they the port destroying the main crane so the port can only receive now small
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ships and with this maybe a new offensive if it started it will actually close the entire port and bring in this in the media just because the saudi led coalition they don't want to be blamed for the death toll that might be caused by this of the data the circle foreign minister of. money saying sorry arabia is not planning to destroy infrastructure the saudi foreign minister. saying that yemen is having a large safe passage from the data before a bombing so complete denials from a coalition no i mean how can you be a guarantee a safe passage if the only passes for eighty percent according to the united nation for eighty percent of the humanitarian aid getting into yemen is from port eighty percent means that the whole the are not abstract. in. this statement by some yemeni officials in saudi arabia they just want to kind of say that we do
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care about the humanitarian aid and we have plans like if it's not if it doesn't work and if the port is destroyed and if the city is destroyed as well then the blame all the blame will be put on the whole movement british regime media calling them indeed the yemeni government but as you say they're not in yemen when you talk to people in the capital that we can see behind you have seen a jirga are they aware that britain opposed to a swedish resolution of the u.n. security council this week that mandated some sort of cease fire. i mean a many look to the united nation and especially to the u.n. security council as a tool for western power and now is a tool for the saudi led coalition they not only call in for a cease fire. in some media outlet that sweden.
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to the un security council has asked for a halt in all operation of a data port and as he said and added so to give time for the rebel to withdraw from the data and the show you how this. u.n. security council is just used to attack the one who is actually defending the city they should actually make a resolution to ask the saudi not to attack the port and to attack are they the city and i will just make it clear that the whole yemeni army loyal to them will not withdraw and they will fight to death what will guarantee if they withdraw from the data port and if the united nation takes over what will guarantee that they're not gonna stop the saudi from season this key city after what we as yemeni here in sanaa we always talk about the united nation rule in international conflict and as an example we remember in one thousand nine hundred eighty two in lebanon in sabra
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and shatila comes to me and comes in south lebanon when labor and was invaded then the united nation and the u.s. has asked the syrian fighter induced to comes to withdraw and they took them spread them in many other country but soon after the israeli army and some militia loyal to him has entered this camp who was under the protection of you and killing five thousand and we remember as well said bin each and bosnia and when the dutch this force haven't done anything to protect that village in bosnia in one thousand nine hundred five we remember as well one of the one final example and iraq before the invasion when the united nations. asked saddam to destroy and hunt. ballastic a missile just soon after saddam destroyed. by the new and have destroyed saddam's last ballastic missile what have been the iraq invasion has had been. hundreds of thousands of people has been killed because of that and we can see now how iraq is
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going into chaos now this is the same thing they want to do to her data it has been done in aden when and the whole thing with growth from there what haven't altai that doris is running free militia no security yemeni so-called government the way out i mean hasn't come back to aden for many many months if not years only two days ago because they just want to be in eight celebration after ramadan in there like they did last year and they had before but after that they will just leave aden and i believe if the united nation cared about yemeni they should ask the saudi to stop the aggression on the how they drop out they should as well ask the saudi as a part in this world not only the yemeni government don't call this war in yemen as a civil war or as an inside conflict because to do so this means that you are keeping the saudi but in hiding and the saudi should be put directly and this should be told between the un so-called yemeni government and if they do that i
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think that the yemeni. solution out of peace and yemen will be will be reached soon i began by saying that the british foreign office has told this program it is helping the targeting of yemen what about the targeting and i should say the saudi arabian government obviously deny any attempts at killing civilians they deny they're hitting infrastructure of u.n. security council deny such allegations united nations officials also deny such allegations of the there saying it's the world's worst humanitarian crisis what about getting possible talking reports of possible to. of dubai and of abu dhabi in the united arab emirates in the coming days i think. president of the high council president or some other was was assassinated they believe in nineteen of april this year he has said that they will be the final battle if they
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do attack. we will take a measure that we cannot go back from so this show that i am sure that dubai abu dhabi and even though the. saudi oil fields will be one of the main target if they actually target where they are trying to enter data and that's why he said. we will do things that we cannot return and that will actually . save you toward the war on yemen and that's how they are well aware of that that's why they try to have pressure using the united kingdom on the united states and france to have pressure on the u.n. security council to ask the whole he to withdraw so they can go into the city without any fight it's a democratic thank you and that's it for the show we're back on monday with award winning scientist to investigate the significance of humans appearing in four
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seconds to midnight if history is reduced to a single day to make a difference of us plus or should we do with your money twenty doing years to the day of the death of legendary muckraking journalist and author i after. i think. russia took a real blow to its sense of self cheering. yeltsin yes i remember even six years ago when i first came here people kept apologizing to me for how terrible everything was it just wasn't like america and for people to be ashamed of their country was so different and now i don't really see that i see people are more proud of their country and i think his use stalin in particular the great
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patriotic war in the victory there as a way to inspire nationalistic pride and. it is day three the world cup the busiest of the tournament with four games off for discussion today my dear you have just. learned that denmark paid off to a winning start expensive. while in one of the most keenly interested rated games of the group stages leo missed the field to inspire his argentina side to victory over the smallest country in the finals iceland we have the full time breakdown with our co-host monk chess united coach. people from all our rowing the globe poor all in all the russian but all these are live pictures right now from moscow celebrating the world's most watched sporting.
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