but then we watch the revolving door in the white house at the n.s.c. and i don't know. when it comes to russia and people in iran it does seem like the politicians to public they have a longer view of relations with the united states what i mean is that russia scenario switch try to be friends with the guys in the ninety's and they were trying to be friends with the after nine eleven but then them americans broke their promise pushed a nato towards russia's borders and then there was serbia iraq cetera et cetera et cetera. do the americans says decade old can continue to be one assessing relations with russia because it does seem to me that the media in america have. a much shorter attention span and so does the public we see the whole picture and they think well why cycling will are so right this is a bigger problem even than you know the average journalist working in foreign affairs working on russia i have to remind them as preparation for their interview of me what happened five years ago it's as if not just with every administration

but every turnover of the bureau staff no americans you know we tend to approach everything as if we can start from scratch it's a very enduring and positive characteristics of america a kind of can do overcome the obstacles don't get stuck in the past but sometimes we go too far and there are elements of the past that cannot be ignored if we want to approach a country doesn't just mean russia china has historical grievances it issues with its neighbors with us with japan korea iran the shaw nine hundred fifty three the airliner shoot down we can't approach any of these countries as if it all started with each new administration and yet we tend to do that it's an american weakness it's also a strength but mostly a weakness but i also feel like fresh equals like the perfect enemy like the dr evil for america is a very good narrative for americans. having

russia as an enemy is much more logical than this undefined terrorism think maybe we're show us relations are actually a victim to a perfect narrative that russia fits into as a perfect enemy. there's there's something very important to what you're saying i think it works both ways i think we have this reciprocal us in russia and america is a good enemy for russia and part of it is as you say it's almost like a logical if it wasn't there you have to create it there's a tendency to find a demon or an adversary the black and whites the cowboy but there's also concrete things that each side have done to help fuel that enemy image but you're right we are the two biggest powers in the world still china is. a century and that doesn't help it both of us and i don't mean to say the cold war is back to what it was and say in the sixty's seventy's or through the eighty's but we stand astride the world and we have this relationship that eased

a bit after the cold war but then we both fell back into the old tropes and patterns so easily that is exactly what we in them talk about after the break so hold your thought there will take a break right now we're back with robert english former policy analyst at the u.s. defense department will discuss more whether u.s. russia relations have crossed a point of no return stay with us. for a world cup twenty eight team coverage we've signed one of the greatest goalkeepers of all time but there was one more question and by the way who's going to be our coach. you guys i know you are nervous is

a huge star among us and the huge amount of pressure come out you have to go meet the center of the pole with you and will show the great the british you are the rock at the back nobody gets past you we need you to get the ball going let's go. a low as i want to know and i'm really happy for joining us today and for the two thousand and three and world cup in russia meet the special one it was also appreciated me to just say the reno theology team's latest edition to make up is bigger than anybody jersey but. when a loved one is murder it's natural to seek the death penalty for the murderer i would prefer it be to limit death penalty just because i think that's the fair thing the right thing research shows that for every nine executions one convict is found innocent the idea that we were executing innocent people was terrifying news

just knew it hadn't been that we were even many of the times families want the death penalty to be abolished the reason we have to keep the death penalty here is because that's what murder victims' families what that's going to give them peace that's going to give them justice and we come in saying. not quite enough we've been through this this isn't the way. then we're back with robert english former policy analyst at the u.s. defense department talking about the current low point in u.s. russia relations welcome back robert know mitt romney when he was running for

president he actually tried to play the russia foreign policy card in his presidential election and he was ridiculed by obama it was like oh my god that is so eighty's bringing leshem back as a foreign policy car but then you know in twenty twelve the relations between us and russia started deteriorating slowly and then in his next state of the union speech in about russia and then you know the second thing we know that the pentagon says that russia is the biggest threat for america so maybe actually romney was ahead of this time. and why why why did this car play out so well now but it hadn't been for him. well what you really ask is what's gone wrong with our relations since the answer is that relations have deteriorated both sides bear blame for that and suddenly rodney's seems pression seems farsighted although well i think he said something like the greatest geo political threats. even in the

pentagon i don't care what they put in that report i talk to defense department people navy people all the time they're looking at china right sometimes those documents of those pronouncements have a budget purpose of mind they want to get a new weapons system they're there they're sort of tacking to the political wind to appeal to some some of the district but on the whole our military establishment they know that china is a big threat but it's also convenient to say russia is doing this in the arctic russia is doing this in the mediterranean because it helps. them tell you because he's not going to upset china and american ties to china economic ties he can always blame everything on russia and you know people love it they go with it they're well with it it's like the old cold war paradigm entirely on this or that but this is interesting because you pointed out that i used to work in the department of finance and i my research i'm a university professor now but my research in specially recently on the arctic keeps me in contact with people who are in or around the defense establishment and

when i ask about what's happening in the arctic why are some people sounding the alarm my interpretation of russia's new bases and new capabilities is a very sensible thing russia should be doing this to trade the environmental issues navigation safety search and rescue why is there this drumbeat of threat and they say to me we know it's not true that's political we actually think that russia is doing sensible things in the arctic we have managed to cooperate for almost twenty years since the creation of the arctic council in fact it's more than twenty years but we know that our secretaries at the top like to go to congress and say whoops and get the. money for new weapons stations so that then there is the pentagon people do well research people who actually know and see behind the narrative that's popular but then there's the narrative and american people assessing whatever it is that they hear and see in the t.v. so when when you do things straight or when others do things you usually imagine

yourself doing it like you imagine like this is what you do so that's why the others do it for instance i'm sure like for americans russia crimea russia syria is the same thing as americans going to libya or iraq or afghanistan for that matter but really it's so much different because russia crimea is like united states and florida and russia syria is actually really handling immediate threats of homegrown terrorism extremism right next to a border it's not a will or over the ocean for us you know everywhere for america and war over the ocean that has nothing to do with proximity of your borders so do you feel like americans they actually see these one assessing russia's actions no difference it's an american actions are from russian action whether it goes all the way back to the

second world war and the feeling of vulnerability to repeated invasions from germany from the west and the need that stalin felt to create a kind of buffer zone of allied countries all the way to the present and what happens in chechnya what happens in syria in afghanistan how close those terrorist threats are russia americans have never fully appreciated the jew graphic vulnerability that russia's geography condemns it to they have a general idea that we're a great power we mess around in the world russia is a great power they mess around we usually do good things we're not so sure about them there is a kind of sense of a quote but definitely it doesn't sufficiently taken do account the vulnerability of being in central your. asia. you've said that there's a minority among us politicians should believe that putin isn't after upsetting the world order but he's actually defending russia's interests so can there be a known hawkish view on russia in today's united states that would immediately be labeled as

a pro con lean croqueted should be sponsored propaganda. it might not be quite that extreme but look i have colleagues i consider myself a balanced person with a lot of experience i was with ambassador matlock our former ambassador i would consider him in that lead and their displeasure is thing in america and. you know it's it's dangerous to be too sympathetic to russia even when you have a good argument it could back it with facts the atmosphere right now is so rusa phobic that people are trimming their sails i want to say it's a mccarthyite mccarthyist atmosphere but it's a very toxic one i do think however. that walk made this point and he sees it all and he saw reagan and gorbachev calm and make peace that it will take on both sides dynamic leadership to break that an ordinary person fiona hill right in the n.s.c. or robert english at my university somebody else maybe in the white house probably would be pilloried as being too soft being an apologist but someone really strong

in the white house and respected i don't know if that's probably not bernie sanders i don't know if that's joe biden he's very anti russian i don't know who the candidate on the horizon is but i can imagine american president saying anough we have bigger problems and we have a call and poll tried to do that when he came but look what happened i mean this current president is is not the best messenger of a coherent policy now on russia he had a good core idea i even wrote that there's nothing wrong you know why was he pilloried for saying let's try to get along with russia it's of the best interest of both countries in the world who can disagree with that do you think of his my. do you think if he somehow in the weird strange way manages to make peace with north korea then he would be like this. major foreign policy breakthrough and then they would slap for russia especially if it goes against all the things the experts predicted and he still pulls it off could do that that could buy him some

credibility and he could say you guys all told me i didn't know what i was doing and look what i did i compost something that obama couldn't and bush could i'm not sure that's going to happen but worth to happen it would definitely change his stature as a foreign policy leader as a regional break the mold kind of thinker i wish that could help them by bread alone it would be. all right so the main point between us and russia right now is that since the mid to thousands putin has been very clear that the current post cold war order is not reflecting of the world reality anymore that the liberal western left and of history it didn't happen that russia wants to sit at a table an equal say when it comes to deciding matters of the world and especially when it comes to put in his backyard i mean the soviet area why don't the americans take this point seriously. no disrespect but we're asking the same

question again what's gone wrong because you the premise of your question is isn't this reasonable why can't it work as a policy as a basis for accommodation between the two countries the answer is russia and putin have been so demonized and again not without having helped some of that along themselves and our political establishment so quickly slid back into the cold war all right to. be fair occasionally fair everything that russia has done from the two thousand regarding the west has been at defensive action rather than offensive everything that west doesn't like right now in terms of wash whether it's crimea or whether it's ukraine it's a defensive action it's a reaction rather than anything else i am sympathetic to what you're saying about russia defending its legitimate national interests and if the shoe were on the other foot americans would understand how sensitive crimea is both strategically and historically i guess what i'm saying is that the leadership on the two sides

have almost stopped caring i mean the previous leadership i mean the obama clinton . and president putin himself they seem to have given up on each other and so when certain moves are made they almost seem to be done to give maximum offense and continue feeling that i can imagine well i don't know i wasn't there but i can imagine a russia defending its national interests in a way that doesn't help the hawks in the united states but putin has this image of such a hard guy. and i would only blame him for not caring about american public opinion anymore because it seems like no matter what he does there's an unfair response none the less what i'm saying is it's got very personal and you're right i was aghast when not only obama but clinton the we had. our national leaders who are descended to comparing president putin to saddam hussein or adult hitler so

that even in the worst days of a cold war there were certain lines we didn't cross in personalising. discourse definitely there and there was some respect and this recognition that that's just going to take us down a spiral unnecessarily so when i say that i see the training of our experts our foreign policy culture in the us as having you know gone to a huge step back from the old days of the wise men of kissinger's and so forth this is what i mean this was inconceivable before this and it happens on both sides the demonization it's not just the americans demonizing although. i'm an american so i was very critical of our so i did that but it's understood certainly exacerbated personalizing our differences makes it so much harder later to come to the table and we build something it's got so personal we now city. and let's hope there's

still some hope there because people like you come here and then they go back and say what they really see and whatever really is happening is russia i still think that it helps a little by little but that's how the world changes could be that we need a common enemy again i don't mean another nazi germany it could be some climactic disaster it could be something the pacific think we should just start to respect each other's world views and realize that course we should things are done differently in different parts of the world and there's not just one america there like how many billion people living in the world or just one russia we need. to be really sure and since you know thank you so much for this wonderful talk for this interview have a really nice rest of the stay hope we'll meet again soon we were talking to robert english scholar of international relations were policy analyst at the u.s. defense department discussing what are the prospects of u.s. russia ties going back to normal and that's it for this edition of sofia coppola's see you next time.

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so three russian host cities are gearing up for the world cup today sunday's games though left many stunned and not more so than the found. germany and brazil jos anybody know what peter schmeichel break down the action in our studio in the very best. costa rican school there one male and it was a terrific free thank. you. thank you thank you some are. mexico with fantastic thank you for inspiring me so quickly did i cause too many all sorts of problems they for sure found a way to play against germany the. since.

two is a very. strong seventeen goal. he's tipped by many people to be a world cup star and in his first game scored in this school but he was exploiting the mean is that the sense that they didn't finish the incredible i mean i've never seen germany play they lacked so much imagination the game went on the more desperate germany became and they were trying to win the ball back and then the next game play is very very clever the way he defended last year shifty he was outside the stadium today on a machine caught up with a few of these mexican fans and psyching up the atmosphere saying. it was. jubilant mexicans not only they essentially outnumbered the german fans maybe three to one they were also maybe five times louder in the stadium itself. so the atmosphere coming from the mexican fans

was absolutely surreal the mexican fans camped out in moscow for the past four or five days very much jubilant some of that was climbing onto. trucks and dancing and singing also looked like a cluster podge of some bread rows wrestling masks different national costumes and all such we've seen them all to day here and in abundance as well. i think we should feel sorry for one thai high german fans who he didn't check b.c. often civil boarding a plane and flying it's of us had to rush instead he travelled two thousand kilometers all the way from student gods on the track so me and someone from the road driving in passing time for the match how many pies dog only to see the scene lose to mexico and what we have to say was a very very because of pointing to him in performance here's

a look at is doing. is i'm seventy years old going to track you easy to see the use of the trunk school would be too easy to do and nothing to do with the country. let me tell you three are very expensive and the really feel the joy you visit filling me taking the sun just to.

really feel sorry for this fellow so if you. know you see an attractive you know stop and give him a hug i think you deserve. it. from fidel sensual because kenya got brazil off to a great start and this is a terrific strike from him say and it's a strike that we sing the middleman quite often isn't it and just talk us through this one jess that. we were was before it. was issued and these. often. think. of all. these useful piece of plastic shots and impossible for for for me to have visual to go for it. i don't think it's a drama for these big teams not to win the first match when i was in jena doesn't win in doesn't mean portugal doesn't win of how. well germany do resume

doesn't mean i don't think it's a dremel for them as they all know. i think they all know they're going to win. it's probably good for them to defeat on the ground and these probably also would for the. for their country and also to keep to keep calm but obviously football nations lots of expectations critics will come and not my profile of of of and it but of the profile. of the. it will come strong immediately again and i think they all will qualify and the rest of the city's top teams will meet them. as switzerland as. they don't have but it will keep a watch so all the shah was asked to let me feel this as we predicted it would slowly some of the far. better and the some of that in the future and in football

is possible that these teams of can meet and. six often times. possible you know ten times it's possible to get three draws. and this is the real difference i don't see how the swiss found a day in russia the. guys in red are absolutely psyched and they're telling me that this straw is like a victory for them yes. i really lost my voice we had a really good game this like that winning the championship by reading the first day we really. there will have to be a break in some in rostov brazilian fans are telling me that they don't understand how they weren't able to defeat switzerland in the first game of the world cup

match was very very bad for if you didn't play very hour in the second half go for all switzerland was not. was not allowed the and now we have to wake up but after what i saw earlier on sunday i'm sure that the fans of she will go but i will get back to party mode very quickly. we're in rostov on don southern russia but i'll tell you why today this place feels more like the copacabana beach in rio perhaps but as the accepted via. is it feel like rush hour more like brazil this is more like brazil i know but it is wonderful time wonderful people we love to be here in russia showing that's good have fun does it feel like russia or brazil here now that's totally brazil here

it's warm everyone having a good time some it's brazil in russia right now. by the us years. both of us feel like this. pretty box over the place. well finally i can see that this way sands are trying to catch up as well have along. here in rostov on don how are you feeling here it's very nice and the people are very nice to us here us like a family near football family you know we have put the family. them . up. this is a good one the.