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then we're back with robert english former policy analyst at the u.s. defense department talking about the current low point in u.s. russia relations welcome back robert know mitt romney when he was running for president he actually tried to play the russia foreign policy card in his presidential election and he was ridiculed by obama it was like oh my god that is so eighty's bringing russia back as a foreign policy car but then you know in twenty twelve the relations between us and russia started deteriorating slowly and then in his next state of the union speech he was on about russia and then you know the second thing we know that the pentagon says that russia is the biggest threat for america so maybe actually romney was ahead of this time. and why why why did this car play out so well now

but it hadn't been for him. well what you really ask is what's gone wrong with our relations since the answer is that relations have deteriorated both sides bear blame for that and suddenly rodney's seems pression seems farsighted although well i think you said something like the greatest geo political threats. even in the pentagon i don't care what they put in that report i talk to defense department people navy people all the time they're looking at china right sometimes those documents of those pronouncements have a budget purpose of mind they want to get a new weapons system they're there they're sort of tacking to the political wind to appeal to some some of the district but on the whole our military establishment they know that china is a big but it's also convenient to say russia is doing this in the arctic russia is doing this in the mediterranean because it helps. them tell you because he's not going to upset china and american ties to china economic ties he can always blame

the racin or russia and you know people love it they go with it they're well with it it's like the old cold war paradigm entirely on this or that but this is interesting because you pointed out that i used to work in the department of defense and i my research i'm a university professor now but my research in specially recently on the arctic keeps me in contact with people who are in or around the defense establishment and when i ask about what's happening in the arctic why are some people sounding the alarm my interpretation of russia's new bases and new capabilities is a very sensible thing russia should be doing this to trade the environmental issues navigation safety search and rescue why is there this drumbeat of threat and they say to me we know it's not true that's political we actually think that russia is doing sensible things in the arctic we have managed to cooperate for almost twenty years since the creation of the arctic council in fact it's more than twenty years but we know that our secretaries at the top like to go to congress and say whoop

and get. money for new weapons stations so that then there is the pentagon people do well research people who actually know and see behind the narrative that's popular but then there's the narrative and american people assessing whatever it is that they hear and see in the t.v. so when when you do things straight or when others do things you usually imagine yourself doing it like you imagine like this is what you do so that's why the others do it for instance i'm sure like for americans russia crimea russia syria is the same thing as americans going to libya or iraq or afghanistan for that matter but really it's so much different because russia crimea is like united states and florida and russia syria is actually really handling immediate threats of homegrown terrorism extremism right next to a border it's not a will or over the ocean for us you know everywhere for america and were over the

ocean that has nothing to do with proximity of your borders so do you feel like americans they actually see these one assessing russia's actions no differences as an american actions are from russian actions whether it goes all the way back to the second world war and the feeling of vulnerability to repeated invasions from germany from the west and the need that stalin felt to create a kind of buffer zone of allied countries all the way to the present and what happens in chechnya what happens in syria in afghanistan how close those terrorist threats are to russia americans have never fully appreciated the jew graphic vulnerability that russia's geography condemns it to they have a general idea that we're a great power we mess around in the world russia's a great power they mess around we usually do good things we're not so sure about them there is a kind of sense of a quote but definitely it doesn't sufficiently taken do account the vulnerability

of being in central. eurasia so you've said that there's a minority among u.s. politicians should believe that putin isn't after upsetting the world order but he's actually defending russia's interests so can there be a known hawkish view on russia in today's united states that would immediately be labeled as a pro con lean. be sponsored propaganda. it might not be quite that extreme but look i have colleagues i consider myself a balanced person with a lot of experience i was with ambassador matlock our former ambassador i would consider him in that league and their displeasure is thing in america and. you know it's it's dangerous to be too sympathetic to russia even when you have a good argument and could back it with facts the atmosphere right now is so rusa phobic that people are trimming their sails i won't say it's a mccarthyite mccarthyist atmosphere but it's a very toxic one i do think however. that walk made this point and he see it all

and he saw reagan and gorbachev calm and make peace that it will take on both sides dynamic leadership to break that an ordinary person fiona hill right in the n.s.c. or robert english at my university somebody else maybe in the white house probably would be pilloried as being too soft being an apologist but someone really strong in the white house and respected i don't know if that's probably not bernie sanders i don't know if that's joe biden he's very anti russian i don't know who the candidate on the horizon is but i can imagine american president saying enough we have bigger problems and we have a call and poll tried to do that when he came but look what happened i mean this current president is is not the best messenger of a coherent policy on russia he had a good core idea i even wrote that there's nothing wrong you know why was he pilloried for saying let's try to get along with russia it's in the best interest of both countries in the world who can disagree with that do you think of his. do

you think if he somehow in the weird strange way manages to make peace with north korea then he would be like this. major foreign policy breakthrough and then they would go for russia especially if it goes against all the things the experts predicted and he still pulls it off could do that that could buy him some credibility and he could say you guys all told me i didn't know what i was doing and look what i did i compas something that obama couldn't and bush could i'm not sure that's going to happen but worth to happen it would definitely change his stature as a foreign policy leader as a regional break the mold kind of think or i wish that could happen i'm not a gradual it would be. all right so the main point between us and russia right now is that since the mid to thousands putin has been very clear that the current post cold war order is not reflecting of the world reality anymore that the liberal

western left and of history didn't happen that russia wants to sit at a table an equal say when it comes to deciding matters of the world and especially when it comes to put in his backyard i mean the coasts soviet area why don't the americans take this point seriously. no disrespect but we're asking the same question again what's gone wrong because you the premise of your question is isn't this reasonable why can't it work as a policy as a basis for accommodation between the two countries the answer is russia and putin have been so demonized and again not without having helped some of that along themselves and our political establishment is so quickly slid back into the cold war it to. be fair occasionally fair everything that russia has done from the two thousand regarding the west has been at defensive action rather than offensive everything that west doesn't like right now in terms of whether it's crimea or

whether it's ukraine it's a defensive action it's a reaction rather than anything else i am sympathetic to what you're saying about russia defending its legitimate national interests and if the shoe were on the other foot americans were understand how sensitive crimea is both strategically and historically i guess what i'm saying is that the leadership on the two sides have almost stopped caring i mean the previous leadership i mean the obama clinton. and president putin himself they seem to have given up on each other and so when certain moves are made they almost seem to be done to give maximum offense and continue feeling that i can imagine well i don't know i wasn't there but i can imagine a russia defending its national interests in a way that doesn't help the hawks in the united states but putin has this image of such a hard guy. and i would only blame him for not caring about american public opinion

anymore because it seems like no matter what he does there's an unfair response none the less what i'm saying is it's got very personal and you're right i was aghast when not only obama but clinton the we had our national leaders who were descended. to comparing president putin to saddam hussein or adult hitler is that even in the worst days of a cold war there were certain lines we didn't cross in personalising. discourse definitely there and there was some respect and this recognition that that's just going to take us down a spiral unnecessarily so when i say that i see the training of our experts our foreign policy culture in the us as having you know gone to a huge step back from the old days of the wise men of just the jurors and so forth this is what i mean this was inconceivable before this and it happens on both sides

the demonization it's not just the american demonizing although. i'm an american so i was very critical of our side of that but it's understood certainly exacerbated personalizing our differences makes is so much harder later to come to the table and we build something it's got so personal we now city. and let's house is still some hope there because people like you come here and then they go back and say what they really see and whatever really is happening is russia i still think that it helps a little by little but that's how the world changes could be that we need a common enemy again i don't mean another nazi germany it could be some climactic disaster it could be something the pacific think we should just start to respect each other's world views and realize that course we should things are done differently in different parts of the world and there's not just one america there like how many billion people living in the world or just one russia we need. to relate your incense you know thank you so much for this wonderful talk for this

interview had a really nice rest of the stay hope we'll meet again soon we were talking to robert english scholar of international relations what were policy analyst at the u.s. defense department discussing what are the prospects of u.s. russia ties going back to normal and that's it for this edition of the next time. when a loved one is murdered it's natural to seek the death penalty for the murder i would prefer and it means to live the death penalty just because i think that's the fair thing the right thing research shows that for every nine executions one convict

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for the q two we're going to have a little bit of the game the are you risking with this is true it is the. full five six seven. five pm and you're watching all teams not to live from almost goes to do with mean that they were cheetah. welcome to the special coverage of the world cup here in russia with three cities hosting matches today. opening the game day in nizhny novgorod is sweden making south korea in group and it's finished one nil after the video assistant referee awarded sweden a goal in the sixty minute.

also playing on monday i'll belgium against panama and england chuen is you will england and belgium live up to their ranking as favorites in the opening games discussed it with manchester united and co-host as a marine you. has the players has a tactical system that if you play against an inferior team creates them problems because you project the two full backs almost as a winger and you bring people to the inside and in between the lines meaning they used to call it the pockets. so i thinking of it as more than enough to win it but to new jersey i know that poor friend lives and an old friend is our friend this but they do in portugal they lost in spain. we. mean that

it is seven eighty eight so i think the kind of african team with a newbie in touch lots of players being in europe they have the culture of an all to play tactically mentally they are strong. i'm not so sure that is going to be in these imaginary ok now before all this storm it started to make some predictions for us to. get i think on the production side of i print out a little i think a little bit. of a funny feeling and trying to bring some well some salt and pepper to it by thing you've done alright the salt and pepper let's have a look at. some of the great take and we know that joe you say there was a pretty quiet and russian would get active it can we see it there it is russia and europe was there in good position was there almost almost that russian instant russia needs a draw against egypt and the job done and. to want to. make

a great play then that sounds great big joe as i said spain and portugal. and the title said it's on it's only one game so i ran portugal but nothing to just mean you just need to be careful when you play against iran you cannot lose against iran because if you don't the six points is qualified and one of the big ones is also i think it's just not to lose against not to lose against iran and we can small talk about all this is in spain. two in the next six points finished with seven and my position was spain to finish for some portugal finish second yes which i think will happen because i think spain normally can score more goals than us. saying let's have a look at that one. jos i said france a strong idea the title says france denmark yeah but you saw how they lost yes australia lost not deserving to lose in my opinion they lost but showing clearly

that they were competing for points and if they compete against france i still think the can do obviously a better result against against so my for the action you steal. you have you have a great thing argentina nigeria. yeah in here i think i'm going to toulouse with nigeria not just because they lost the match but specially because the way they lost. i didn't like a troll when i looked to paper i like many of the players i like. the names i saw nigerians typically strong african country but i was disappointed. when i see a player like john obi mikel to play. as. it is impossible to be good with mikel playing as a pen because i think my junior lost

a good six to get the time and he gives no dynamic to the to the team playing in that position so i believe that through issue with these three points he is in a good position to qualify i could that's fair enough for group a then there we had brazil and switzerland. let's move on to creeping here it is. serbia brazil city didn't get i didn't my serve did look good so i told the media my prediction is that. i was not thinking that sort of deal was going home i was wishing serbia was going home which is a different thing as i want i want to go on on a holiday but i knew that they have so many good players they are strong. they really want to do it i know many of them i know the speech. that was in my teacher box that feeling of the syrian players to go to the world cup and look really

strong you could see that when switzerland got a point against brazil obviously they can get three against costa rica probably they can get one against serbia and then if they go to five. my prediction can steal can still go with brazil and and switzerland but i have to confess i want my play to go on in the final even with this what five days cities your last day said i just said this what if we knew your impressions of moscow and also the world cup you know the. atmosphere in the city amazing and you know where we were just in the most iconic place in in the city where of everybody is coming i can imagine this subject to nationalities and probably even more on the streets mysterious from the city as we were to for the weather is amazing almost you have to believe that these are the best to do in every in the evidence of

a vision present amazing experience for me. a little bit of what. we see for some of finals and finals and have already started gearing up on the banks of the volga river head of the teams group g. . i. the market. is here your lives are going to win the going to win so now we're going to have a marvelous well go. to go to. its old home grown its own little football i take up it no don't like it to have got out a little bit it gave me i did read english too nice yeah night ten to twelve thirty

forty fifty sixty eight to the new i have called yesterday or off to at once you didn't see him i'm not mad i'm mad thanks very much you've got to be sixteen i believe five six seven i was. what happens in england game similar to england she does you have a vivid but i'm going to be a very tough game but we will in. the us they're not going. to let the nose of the fun's being as well behaved in a decent is these behind me unfortunately i did witness so horrid behavior by you could even england's fun straight on salif being thrown up as well as songs that cannot be repeated but i spoke to the chief executive of the england fund's federation about them about what happened there i want anyone funds should be doing well here in russia we've always acknowledging good funds to do well the vast majority majority of us do all the time which is just to treat the place with

respect you know revealed to us with a degree of hospital cuts with every told him it's there's always a media story about most of the experience trouble is a bit immune to that sort of thing that would be exciting news paper called he sells newspapers because the mission in reality i'm here in the middle of the great revolt government me on during around the marina here i've come across something of a familiar sight on one of the. not just an english flag but also an englishman graeme can sleep. permission for mission grown to. end up in the war you've been doing a little bit something special for the world cup tell us about the. area. all the way from the crimea. we traveled under the crimea bridge. one day before mr putin but you've provided a bit of something for those like myself who are.