after three years of conflict it has been estimated that out of a population of twenty seven point four million twenty two point two million people in yemen are in need of humanitarian assistance so why are the u.s. and u.k. so committed to the saudi u.a.e. war on yemen. this is says harlan kentucky. all in this movie the

voices of the street families leave. a co money city with almost no coal mines left. the jobs are gone all the coal was it said i'd. love to see these people as survivors of a world disappearing before their eyes. i remember thinking when i was younger that if anything ever happened to the coal mines here that it would become a ghost town but i never thought in the million years i would see that and it's how it's happened. please. let me. put it. to you. because.

this is. what does society do when someone commits a horrific act of violence. for centuries seeking justice was a community affair. and disproportionate blame fell on the poor mentally disabled and people of color. in the eighteen hundreds some capital offenses were targeted specifically at slaves the stablish in a racial bias that continues today. executions reached a historic peak in the one nine hundred thirty s. averaging one hundred sixty seven per year but then in one thousand thirty six. a

gruesome execution caught the attention of the media. on aug fourteenth in owensboro kentucky raney the thea was publicly hanging by a white sheriff's many thought but the oh was innocent. one new york times reporter wrote ten thousand white persons some jaring another's festive saw prayerful black men put to death today and davies county's piton gala. the outcry over rainy but he is hanging did not put an end to capital punishment instead it drove executions behind prison walls out of public view. state officials built death houses and institutionalized the practice. it's a death by far it's a scripted death in the beginning it was hanging it was not only hanging but it was

public and so you see the crowds come in and bring in a picnic lunch and celebrating then we move from hanging to the electric chair and then we began to hammer the horror stories that happened out of the electric chair . and then has been a move to lethal injection and lethal injection is likely going medicinal so that we'll just be putting them to sleep. but not everyone agrees. the idea that they should go out in an opiate haze that it should be a pleasant that is absolutely perverse. the debate about the death penalty has become increasingly polarized and politicized we want a system that they are we want a system that respects the dignity of human beings the idea that we were executing innocent people was terrifying and there was just no way that we hadn't and that we

want some people kill with an attitude so callous heinous sadistic that they have forfeited their right to live i believe in a turn of one and that is when we execute this person we know he will never kill again why is it that the death penalty really comes down to in many cases just where you live who your d.n.a. is we cannot recognize injustice when we see it at people of not being treated fairly and people not getting a fair shot you can be critical but you can be critical of the idea that the government has the right to kill and also hold compassion and concern for victims maybe in some books of justice the person for this act deserves to die but do we as a society deserve to kill them. today capital punishment largely falls to the state in which the crime was committed and laws and methods

vary widely. most states use lethal injection. but some still use gas chambers. the electric chair. hanging. and firing squads. carrying out the death penalty is intrusted to specially trained guards like jerry givens. of the sixty two executions the jerries conducted thirty seven were by electrocution and twenty five by lethal injection. lethal injection is considered the more humane form but for jerry that made the job of killing another person a lot tougher. when you talk about execution and electrocution is a button you push and washing push the button the current flows in and the current

the current comes out and that's all i had to do was push a button but when it come down to death by lethal injection you have seven to. a chemicals. you have four flushes and three deadly chemicals that is inserted into this man and. my self as the execution i'm at the end of it's a rant i'm pushing the poison. down to tune into the body so i'm more attach to this person then it is pushing a button and release and then they let the current flow by itself fifteen days prior to an execution the condemned would be moved to the death chamber where gerry and his team worked. all nine of us were executions and we protect

a good excuse and that's what we stood by. the preparation was mental as well as physical. we practice and practice and practice prior to execution. each of us knew our jobs out sign it and we never allow ourselves to get that close to anyone you know we train for that we train this way you don't get that close to . the day of the execution. twenty four hours prior to that we we have a call a duck watch. a guy will act differently because he knew that this is the last everything. this is the serial whether condemned sperry's. this is where the warden really is don't want these clergy person. with him.

doing this course of the day to condemn is given a shower his last meal is less visitations. by six o'clock our preparations were stopped into the inmate is placed today. at home in new hampshire karen in her family were slowly recovering from their injuries. not some much for wasm physical abilities things like the loss of specially for me my rose colored glasses you know. just the reality. that. people are different things are

not the same. when even with one and i. working through things and i'm working through things and. it had been six months since the bombing and karen had not yet seen her good friend celeste who was with them at the finish line and lost both her legs. and then planning. an airfoil i i couldn't bring myself. to do so. because i felt. celeste and sixteen others lost limbs that day ron was one of the lucky ones doctors were able to save his leg but the trauma and pain still lingered going to

have to work for a lifetime to get to burn new normal whatever that's going to be. after months of deliberation attorney general eric holder announced the u.s. would seek the death penalty. the defense will argue that zocor was pressured into it by his older brother that he was a popular well liked college kid led astray. and i agree and i and i am to believe that. but i also. just can't stoop and. karen son was the same age is no car. didn't seem like such a hard decision when it was abstract. you know i've got family and friend

who are very religious and don't believe in it and that i have others who say. it's the right thing to do they're so sure. i don't know that it's right for me to make that decision to take someone else's life. in philadelphia shannon's killer was still on the loose. the she worst pressed france or so but the police had none. it's just like you're in a coma you mean you're just like walking through something but you you don't know exactly how you're going to deal with them how am i ever ever going to get through this. this is tremendous sense of loss. and you know for some time i could visualize feeling that walking through

a door just walking in the house and walking through the door seeing our doc at the bed she told me. she was so kind and generous and loving and helpful and she always would come to us and say mom dad i have to make a difference sharon was a little mini thing. she had a tremendous appetite for learning. everybody loved shannon everybody loved her she was a little extreme way over and over. in their grief vicki and still turn to each other and reached out for support. this takes time and doesn't you know everybody goes down a different path in a different time line to this journey toward healing to begin attending support meetings for families of murder victims. there they saw the devastating toll of sorrow and anger. the father of one of the murdered daughters we know well took his

first drink and he never stopped for a year and then she lost his job and marriage. but welch's daughter was one of one hundred sixty six people killed in the timothy mcveigh bombing of oklahoma city. one night about a year later he woke up in the morning and he had this dream and his daughter julie was there telling him dad poor dad he murdered me are you going to let him murder her family. this year also saw the high price people paid for putting their lives on hold as they waited for an execution. we start finding out what murder victims' families go through if you decide to say look i want that man executed it would take fifteen twenty years as much longer for it actually to happen and we just saw the effects that this had on these family members we saw it destroying their lives .

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is our to dot com coming up on our to international the latest hot button political issues are up for debate. oh and welcome to cross talk where all things considered i'm peter lavelle after three years of conflict it has been estimated that out of a population of twenty seven point four million twenty two point two million people in yemen are in need of humanitarian assistance four point five million children and women are suffering malnutrition while two point nine million people are internally displaced this is a humanitarian catastrophe by any measure so why are the u.s. and u.k.

so committed to the saudi u.a.e. war on yemen. stocking the tragedy known as yemen i'm joined by my guest well how many marandi into him he's a professor at the university of time in london we have charles bridge he is a security analyst and a former u.k. army and counter terrorism intelligence officer and in brighton we cross to catherine shocked and she is a senior analyst with center all right cross talk rules in effect that means you can jump in anytime you want i always appreciated let me go to charles first. this war has been going on for three years i gave some of the stats encourage our viewers to go to doctors without frontiers and look at their side on yemen the much more detailed much more group. i would even say what is the u.k. u.s. interest in this war against the country the poorest country in the middle east

what is the thinking behind british foreign policy supporting saudi arabia and the emirates against yemen. i suspect on the one hand you've got u.k. and the u.s. saying that says some degree and we can come on to that later on their national interests are aligned with saudi arabia particularly against iran of course in yemen elsewhere and again you have to question and i'm hoping hopefully later in a post we will do that in more detail as to why the u.k. and u.s. always seem to see their interests as being in conflict with iran in most instances but also there's got to be a aspect of this which is based on commercial interests of course britain and america supply vast amounts of weaponry and other equipment to saudi arabia the relationship with saudi arabia particularly it's not just saudi arabia involved here is one of course other gulf states as well all of which have very lucrative.

commercial contacts with britain and the united states and indeed france and there has been certainly of the last few years a tendency for particularly united kingdom that anything that is saudi arabia supports pretty much britain and america are going to support also we have to remember just really how important this relationship particularly saudi arabia is if we think about trump we think about. other government ministers united states and united kingdom their first port of ports of call when they've been put into office isn't their allies in europe or the states often it's usually going off to see two players both of whom are vitally important to british and particular interests one of those is israel and the other one always saudi arabia and so really i think this war is becoming increasingly and embarrass meant not just war but the blockade and everything else that goes with it is becoming embarrassment to western leaders as invariably parts of it creep into media coverage because there's been

a little account as yet of the last three creep creep but also if they will they will continue to support it catherine let me go to you in brighton ok so we've got a little bit in the background the the reason. if we can use that term for the british and the americans so what does fig tree me. for the saudis in the us the genocide i mean what what do they hope to what is the end goal here go ahead. the end goal was basically the situation of the had would have cried to two thousand and eleven when the people decided to to rise up against the then you know regime where the us would europe that was in control of yemen and yemen's political future as well as economical future and i think that this is what they're trying to do trying to revert back to you know the situation that we had you know treaties other than f. and that is not going to happen because people have learned that they have a right to political said determination and they understand today you know the majority of yemeni and astound that's why would your of is not there to promote

greater yemen or even to promote a greater future for yemen but rather you know you have yet another country a client state that would remain forever tied up to yemen. i mean just very quickly when we talk about you know the british and the u.s. sizing with saudi arabia because of the fear and the enemy cities that have to would see iran we need to be very careful here to understand that yemen is a proxy only in the eyes of britain and the u.s. because they released no iranian influence in yemen represent your graphically advantage and it's sitting on very important waterways needed to really and of course because of all routes which is why britain and the u.s. all are interested in yemen in the first place it has nothing to do with the fact that you want to have the na in yemen but rather because of the geography and where yemenis is situated in relation to iran and the rest of the gulf countries and i think it's an important point because we need to stop this narrative that iran you know has an interest in trying to promote unrest in yemen that's not the case if

anything iran needs stability in the region to be able to itself you know you know stabilize its own borders and everything else i goes with it i think that's intense and i'm really glad you brought that up because there is a. and determination issue in yemen that news never brought up in the mainstream media and charles already brought up the issue that is always mentioned i'm going to go to mohammed now into rant it's all iran's fault as usual i mean you pick the day of the week it's russia's fault or rand's fault here now i'm willing to agree that iran may have some kind of involvement on some level now but not in two thousand and eleven that was what how this was sold so do you intervention in the first place here but it's always a rand's fold it's a proxy war it's far more than a proxy war as catherine has pointed out go ahead mohamad into around this is one of the excuses that western countries in the western media use in order to justify the crimes being committed by their governments the canadian government american

and british and french governments are involved in crimes against humanity and they are just as guilty as mohamed been solomon and the saudi regime and all this without them he couldn't be carrying out these crimes americans are providing all sort of source of the just simple support so they need to justify it somehow obviously for anyone to know for who knows anything about what's going on the yemenis do not have the ability to have any meaningful contact with iran there's no way that the iranians can help them in a meaningful way because they're completely surrounded the americans and the saudis and others have laid siege on the country they're preventing food from getting in there and forcing starbase starvation they've been doing this for years now and the western media they call it a proxy war or they try to somehow blame the victims in gaza in order to

again justify their policies but it's obvious that this country is surrounded the overwhelming majority of the population is living in the areas controlled by. the law and their allies the popular committees and so on after all these years after over three and a half years with all the internal foreign support american support european support mercenaries from from different countries blackwater and an american and french official military presence on the ground sudanese mercenaries after all you know with all the money that the saudis and their marti's are spending if they cannot capture the capital of the country that shows that it is the will of the people of yemen that prevents them from doing so that shows that the resistance against the saudis and the americans is in the gentleman and popular resistance but that's something that they don't want to see because that makes c.n.n.

that makes the new york times the guardian the b.b.c. all of them run against their own government if they point these out that humiliates their own government position charles i have noticed that in what scant coverage there is on the cable stations the iran card is always almost always played for so ok and there is not the not there isn't a willingness to admit that are serious war crimes are being committed and i'd like to point out the the who these also have been accused of that in all fairness but this is a very tragic conflict. again not you know what is the endgame here because i mean what just reading the stats i mean this is a country a humanitarian situation that is winding down very whiney out of control in a very serious way i mean cholera i mean something that is virtually wiped.