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welcome to the alex salmond show a sail from all sides these are not encouraging times for the british back to tears the irish question remains unresolved the lord sort of voting the tory party is split the scots are rebelling and cabinet members are threatening resignation today we ask the question has bracks it hit the buffers but first salix with your tweets your messages and emails. still lots of reaction to the series with their own shipbuilding barbara reid says it but i will sure well done everyone involved a success story for shipbuilding at port glasgow and geoff proven odds fantastic thank you for the most professional in the programme. deserves to lead the world in hydrogen ship and student says ferguson levine was. a metaphor for the future of scotland on board such a look publishing show on service and shipbuilding when you get to see and listen
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to the young apprentices but he is a bit worried when you were interviewing the age of like a rising tide yes it did bob the table was rising but we got out just in time and finally james doohan i think some of the interview in the show giving each pass the time to. interruption you're quite right james i like that i mean i mean you know let's go what do they do it. on paper it seems business as usual for treason is government over the last two weeks tory party splits threaten resignations and the prospect of being overturned in the commons however by hook or by crook and some assistance from the labor party leadership the government held the line albeit with a little blaring at the edges however brett said let's to fight another day but the feeling of impending crisis is growing and the anti begs that forces may get overwhelm the prime minister today to examine these forces in question whether they can hold the brakes at bus first stop is the house of lords and watch talk of the constitution has been barking decisively on the brake. with
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a series of key government defeats in the upper chamber here's a taster of recent debate. our proposed amendment creates a formal structure set out in law for parliament to express its views in all of the various outcomes that might come to pass in our exit from the e.u. it is in the national interests that palm should not be faced by just to take it or leave it but that's not just some arcane interest as a lot of ordinary citizens who would be hugely including those voted for protested the lords have had the ball into the commons many governments parquet this majority has only been sustained by some flexible promises. and some convenient abstentions from labor alex asked former dynasty spokesman and anti back to campaign alastair campbell to assess the situation. the prime minister sub only by enemies of the house a lot of the rebellious backbenchers sports not the scots of the belling as well just solved the irish question so i was just oh prime minister. i think she does
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have a certain quality of resilience and she does seem able just to keep going as the one thing giver. but also i think the conservative party in this place is the so divided that i don't think anybody can work out quite what would happen next should she fall should she. fall just because the politics drive fall in a vote of confidence in that's going to happen but i just think people are worried about will come from both sides so you've got the one thing i think the tory for you know there's three parties always had this sense of kind of his own survival really care about who the leader is as long as the party survives and i think they understand that i think is a bad thing because she is driven so profoundly by the idea of holding the service positive heather and i think her party sort of gets to have the pressure outside parliament is the people's vote can. is that coming to
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a head this electrifying that most fear or are people across the country as confused and divided as the parliament us there is no doubt the public are confused are divided just as this place is i think the one thing that the government is really trying to play on and with some success is this sort of fatalism let's just get on with it and i think the thing it's really important to understand is that let's just get on with it leads to in my view the country doing the wrong thing and considerable cost i wanted light to happen as a people's vote on the deal. because it's so different to what was promised we know so much more than we did and i see more and more people are just thinking you know why are we doing this when we think he appears clear that it's going to damage just for some time to come. a government which is having some difficulty defining a meaningful vote for him. to the people. if you if you speak injuries may
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now you're watching observing you say no however i think that what's happening. with two years on from the referendum that's half of the limpia at the next world cup will be almost ready by the time that you've had the time that we've had to sort of as you say we still haven't sort of the irish question so i think anything can happen i really do and also i honestly think from the labor party's perspective as well i think the labor party actually said you know what. this every which way there's no way this can be done without damaging the people that we represent and if you turn on the i think labor go home and draw on election is at the moment this government. useless as it is divide is incompetent as is their head in the polls they attempt this week to make make reality for the. double decker bus problem the health service how do you assess that as a political move i think is extraordinary i think i mean the one thing i think we're in a completely different era in politics. you and i have both been accused many many
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times of kind of you know pushing the truth being to being too aggressive whatever but this is something of a completely different order this is where people knowing something to be untrue knowing something to have been exposed as being untrue feel the confidence to be able to go on television. and that's to reason. we want to resume a i don't think i'm afraid this sort of peter and playbook is basically whatever you say is the truth about time and the actual factual situation kind of doesn't matter very dangerous game to play and i was very i was genuinely surprised trees and i played it. thank you very much. now the opposition has difficulty uniting but then so does the cabinet for the last two weeks have been full of more foreign secretary unthreatened resignation however
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the government can depend on one set of reliable allies the democratic unionist party access leading d.p.m. pisani will send whether that support with unconditional. samuelson welcome to the alex. the prime minister doesn't have a problem to see she's got the house a lot of the bridges that commit the rebels not by dividing the scots are revolting but only friends of the do you how conditional is your support well as you well know all support in the house of commons is conditional nobody gives a blank blank check to the goldman board or indeed to anyone they're working with and we have made it quite clear that as far as we're concerned our support is conditional on northern ireland being treated the same as the rest of the united kingdom where unionist party after the warning shot across the bows last christmas when she was trying to get a deal and seem to be departing from that principle are you convinced the prime
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minister is no foully on board what you require or think that first of all last christmas was an indication to the prime minister that our support is conditional on the i think we probably rescued her from her own folly at that particular time because of course she hard saying up to something which would have had implications not just for northern ireland and scotland would have been saying what. differently we had to see it might come in the referendum as. we want a different treatment on long than would have said the c.m. and she's a had her whole strategy and a shambles but since then of course i think the prime minister is cognizant of the fact that she needs our support she has made promises in the house of commons that the north are will not be treated differently and i think if one looks out her arrangements not for the backstop which is a huge k.y. arrangement it's an indication that she will not make the same mistake again or two years and after the referendum the still doesn't seem to be
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a definitive solution to the question of a frictionless border between northern ireland and the public do you think that solutions in sight or do you think it's going to. the problem of this well i think that the solution was in sight a long time ago it wasn't that there wasn't a solution the question is is there the political will on the part of the european union and the irish government to adopt a solution which allows for a frictionless border and you know it's hard view that the border between northern ireland are some public is actually quite easy to sort out the real issue for the irish should be how do you make sure that you're not cut off from your market in t.v. or not your bridge across. europe disrupted. by a close are we to a solution unless by some oxidant either she decides step dying or she finds a very massive vote against our. which people hadn't dr leigh planned for i think
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that he will survive but it will be i'm sure says getting up every morning wondering what of myself and for our nails i wouldn't be too many of them left i suspect that she wants to survive and she probably will allow society also thank you so much for the interview and i were to. if the government didn't have enough problems and use them i slashed a week as the s.n.p. parliamentary group boiled over about what they see as a power grab and promise to play partner with westminster on bricks that alex spoke to tommy shipwright comments how well the ins about the threats to breaks it from the other celtic nations i'm joined by tommy sheppard from the scottish national party and hope that committee. it can be shared but are you really upset about. a parliamentary game some sort upon tonight that you were acting out last week no games here i like a stuff that really affects people effects the people i represent and of course
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last week the reason why we made a protest was because we were denied for my first time in this parliament we were denied the opportunity to even discuss major proposals that will affect the lives of the people i was elected to represent if i'm unable to do that then i think i'm feeling in my political responsibility to the people who voted for me to not protest about it and i hope the government learned its lesson from the shenanigans of last week and it won't try and do that again but having said that i very much doubt it. liberates a committee which again is not being friendly to the government but should assessment of the debate this week about what represents a meaningful vote for members of parliament when the negotiations are done and dusted for the government's meaningful seems to be a bit thick clearly they've changed their minds a number of times but the people who are promoting this very clear is to the store . to parliament to the house of commons something that people campaigned for when
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they wanted leave leave it be in the union and eventually it comes down to this if the government fails and if they can see with the mess that they are doing of the negotiations and if we're likely to come out without to deal than the bench leave the house of commons love to assert itself and give the governments a bit of direction. not the detail borders that's a seemed to be policy in the. press one by the government itself but the general direction so that we can try to make some sort of success of this dreadful mess that we're in some stage over the next few months do you think the opposition forces the people who are skeptical about blacks or just directly opposed to it are they going to manage to combine behind a single killer amendment to hold the government to it's up to the labor party to a greater extent. very constructive talks going on between the various parties involved from the greens the s.n.p. played and also be from the labor party liberals and also from the conservatives
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we're all in there talking but occasionally that is not presumed to see as there was last week last going into the technical matter but we could have had the votes we might have defeated the governments and labor decided to put forward their own amendments which some people couldn't couldn't supports and differentially to test themselves as more so for themselves and that is really counts in the some people argue that jeremy called them at the end of the day as an all time great city of himself and he's not going to put the parliament in the position of defeating blacks even if it was to bring down the government well indeed you and i know him from many years experience and think he's a very straight sort of a chap in many ways and clearly he is here and he's holding his party with him the majority of them i think in favor of a soft boxes as soft as he can manage but he's determined to deliver to the government what's he really wants i think is
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a very hard field i mean some people think back to ninety one trying this after the break we'll be continuing this discussion about the prospects of parliament and i'll be speaking to people. commentator and host of the prime minister can defeat all opponents i went through at the end of the day join the same. so what we've got to do is identify the threats that we have it's crazy. let it be an arms race. speech dramatic development only move. i don't see how that strategy will be successful. if you sit down
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and talk. welcome back i'm speaking to the scottish national party front bench. committee when i was saying that he thought that gemma carbon at least borden's of these waters. but convenient for you to lump the the blame on the labor party leadership i mean surely it takes two or maybe more than two to tangle and you've got to make concessions to fighting that amendment to hold the government to task well we've just got to hope that jeremy corby carbon hates the tories more than the head she other social democratic parties in europe you know maybe maybe he'll come to that realisation i hope so but also it's the historic role in the constitutional role of the opposition in this parliament to oppose the government so he has had many opportunities to do so and hasn't taken him because
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he's trying to square splits inside his own party and i understand that i accept that but when we get to the final home straight in this long tortuous process of the e.u. withdrawal i think at some stage labor has got to declare themselves as not supporting the government and when they choose to do that in the united basis all of us will be behind them in the lobbies on that one and i think there will be that a realistic prospect of inflicting serious serious wounds in the government strategy where one. of last week suggested that the s.n.p. was about to play palmdale westminster. who brought the westminster parliament to its knees and procedural towns in the nineteenth century in pursuit of violet's home rule. is the house of commons able to. be on that or have they been tightened up since the days of but now in the wind. well well i couldn't answer that question until we had a trial and to be honest but i would say this that i mean i think it has been
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a lot of people going into hyperbole about what happened last week and it being be a new strategy by the s.n.p. actually what happened last week was a. a spontaneous and an instinctive reaction to our leader being expelled from the house of commons and we took the not unreasonable view that if our voices cannot be heard inside the chamber then we will make sure that we will have been heard outside the chamber and we actually tripped over to this very green and in the space of about two hours got more press coverage than we done in the previous year and now the london media and the political bubble here they know there's a problem with bracks it to do with scotland and they want you do recognise that before it was a one off or you're planning a strategy well as a set on the side of politics if there were to be a strategy i'm sure one of the components of it would be an element of surprise so i would be disinclined to talk to you about it on television however let me make the case that i mean the the s.n.p. has always taken if you that we will do anything we can and use any means at our disposal to advance the interests of the people who elected this to come to this
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place sometimes that means working the procedures even with their limitations and other times that means making extra parliamentary protest it's not a matter of one or the other. finally the irish question i this board the question still seems insoluble do you think the proceedings of the breaks that committee has anyone come up with an answer that support the house of commons well the short answer is no and there's a complete contradiction here in the north of ireland this government's wants essentially an open door. complying with international treaties but the whole rhetoric of the leave campaign was to lock the door and over now you can't have two sets of enjoyments within one country and if i was a burglar i probably get on the back and through the back door just say generally of the two questions which have been build the conservative party under there's over the last couple of hundred years is there a big question and then the european question the genius government as we have now
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to support the problems down both of the same i don't know the money is this but scene of the hour reaping the effects of that's unfortunately now and so was the last of the of all countries suffering because of it but without fascinating insight into the political history thank you so much carol williams and of course tony shepherd. so little sign of help from the prime minister from the celtic nations is that a way fruit for to the some a for one man who says that is as peter oborne a political commentator peter welcome to the examiner shield i know very much the prime minister she is like a wagon train so i ended by hostiles she's got the house a lot of the committee rebellious backbenchers divisions in the cabinet the scots some revolting and islander still hasn't been solved how can she possibly solve that breaks that conundrum. what she's doing be doing remarkably well so far i mean every commentator in the land that's written or off endlessly we've had these one crisis after another where all the experts say she's about to be. out and so far
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she's in a very difficult circumstances then i think rather a smart balancing act but it's more than just a question of surviving i mean beyond prime minister leading just staying there is there any saying that she can lead this divided party in the direction she wants to go. so far she's done exactly that i mean the way i read it and made the maybe other ways of doing that but is that she's determined has been from the start navigating what in the colloquial is called the soft bricks basically britain will remain part of some kind of single market and some kind of customs union you go remember there are hundreds of civil servants from europe and from britain working industriously to make something like that happen and you know whether it's to produce this soft breaks it the prime minister has to veer between the skill or of
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the remain as and the. might might and the opposite side of the current of the of the brits it is and every day you read a fresh attack on a saying that she's finished she can't lead well i say to them is that she still that and it's still on course so in a way you suggested she's always delay. dividing our own cabinet so she can she can get hard line through the middle as it were then about the liberal it is divided isn't it between a small number boris johnson michael gove may be although he looks a bit coin a phrase perfidious if you ask me. and probably one or two others and on the other side you've got. you've got a bulk of weight of remains and i think she is trying to navigate a path in my reading of is that she and i admire of this i mean it's a very big just think of bricks there are car workers in the northeast of england
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you want to keep them in their jobs you want to keep those car plants going to the european markets working she's under enormous itzhak for the. six years for the wanting to do a deal with your but i think she's actually being quite sensible but it's about four high wire it doesn't i mean any point they officer could unite behind a killer amendment and then the prime minister's position would be untenable and that actually would have happened by now in my reading of the situation but for the fact that labor is more committee to break see the labor leadership to be more exact is much more committed to breaks it than the conservatives and that's why john may call been again and again it rather than go and kill off the government is somehow keeping it going and the labeling to carry on what happened last week when he refused to join in the anti government more. ed to the day if the child says they have to topple
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a prime minister to force an election on any the constitutional duty of the opposition leader is to to want to be prime minister and to and to bring down governments when you say that and i agree with that and it's perfectly honorable. to do that john smith did this kind of thing over over maastricht twenty five years ago and now. corben is doing the exact opposite. of john smith he's withholding the dagger in order to keep the british project afloat that's my reading of the situation but those are a lot of fakers not just many a slip can happen we know in the art of i mean there's a huge number of unsolved questions on the camera spin don't throw out numerable times some point leaves matters are going to come to the touch is it possible for the prime minister to continue to pursue the evil day if she keeps on postponing things i think she may have to. pay
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a very heavy price for that i mean we just reading today that the final deal may not be negotiated until december now that's free months before you know we leave the european union in other words and it was originally meant to be in the gamut negotiated by this month and so there's going to be a period of chaos and that is i think the moment of maximum danger for the government when she comes back from brussels with that final deal and it goes to the commons and that is when she might indeed be defeated so you see the prime minister definitely maneuvering to come back to the commons for a deal do you think at that point the congress might throw it over or try to for a while probably she would probably she will get it through but it is obviously there are going to be honorable principle people on both sides of the argument though again to do what is not normal in british parliamentary politics which is to vote against their own party on
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a higher principle. if you thought that in various times in the last hundred years the european question and the irish question of the sable governments of the day you know this prime minister's wrestling with both similar pin mislead you can she possibly survive that. well somebody would have said this. eighteen months ago they were saying it eighteen months ago twelve months ago she has survived. i'm not carin certain that she is going to continue to survive by the way but i think she's been people are very contemptuous about this prime minister. and yet she still there is carrying on and i the odds must be that breaks it somehow is going to take place. royal ascot this week he's the prime minister was a favorite one of these races would you back up to stay the course. i think in particular in one of the long distance races like the road you know the two miler
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later on this afternoon i think you might manage in those six furlong races that she might fail to get over. thank you very very. so here we have it a prime minister surrounded on all sides by problems and difficulties caught between the european rock and some real hard casey's among the breaks and tears and indeed there remain m.p.'s does she have as peter oborne suggests a grand strategy to divide opponents why she comes through the middle with a soft blanket policy or is the general view the she actually can't make up our mind what to do and even if she did would probably not be able to command a majority to pursue it we're going to find out reasonably soon because the clock is ticking. many times over the last year but she's still there she's still in office perhaps the reason is that she's the prime minister that most people dislike
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the least a recipe for survival but not much of a political legacy from me that myself and everyone here. goodbye for now. to. be running the us have become much more aggressive after the nuclear deal twenty
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fifteen the only way to stop it is with russia and the united states work together what i think we share in come on is much more than what separates us and i believe that the united states has realized that russia has. interests in the middle east and before you know during the cold war and in an even after the cold war it was like a zero sum game. as this is harlan kentucky. over all of these moves the lawyer says is the people going street families remain in. a coma and he says he was almost no coal mines left. the jobs are gone all the coal mines of said that. live to see these people are survivors of disappearing
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before their eyes. i remember thinking when i was younger that if anything ever happened to the coal mines here that it would become a ghost town but i never thought in a million years i would see that and it's happening it's happened. so what we've got to do is identify the threats that we have it's crazy confrontation let it be an arms race based on off and spearing dramatic development only mostly i'm going to resist i don't see how that strategy will be successful very critical of time time to sit down and talk. with the world with sarkozy. the largest international congress on the problem july
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