tv Cross Talk RT June 22, 2018 10:30am-11:01am EDT
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three families remove. a co money city with almost no coal mines left. the jobs are gone all the wiser said that there was a lot of to see these people the survivors of a world disappearing before their eyes. i remember thinking when i was younger that if anything ever happened to the coal mines here that it would become a ghost town but i never thought in the million years i would see that and it's happened it's happened. one else shows seem wrong. but old bulls just don't call. me old yet to shape out this day comes to catechize and in detroit equals betrayal. when so many find themselves worlds apart we choose to look for common ground.
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so how many of you know that the united states actually celebrates a second independence day every year called juneteenth and held annually on the nineteenth of june the holiday celebrates rightfully so the end of slavery across the united states but while we celebrate the importance of juneteenth this week with jubilation and pride let us not turn a blind eye to the diabolical legacy of the slave trade here in the united states and how that bloody racist history still impacts us today because while slavery was
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officially abolished with the thirteenth amendment on december eighteenth and eight hundred sixty five that doesn't mean it disappeared forever in the land of the free to discuss jim talent in the modern incarnations of u.s. slavery we are joined by author and educator baltimore's own. other than it was to have your own corps well i just want to start off for those that are aware because look it will be august juneteenth isn't one of those holidays that you see celebrated on c.n.n. you know it's not like christmas it's not like for the joy it doesn't get celebrated across the mainstream media as much as i think it should because it's important by the holiday but what does that holiday mean to you and what is the cultural importance of juneteenth it's very interesting because you know lincoln freed the slaves right and we fought this war and you know the north one even though it had so many confederate statues a lot of places it was so but the slaves were supposed to be free small problem. a lot of places the plantation owners forgot to tell them so i think oh i think this
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is i think this is a little bit going to forget it because it's i think is an important holiday because you know and you could never ever truly. make this country a better place if you don't know the whole entire history of it we get these bits and pieces right little kids are brought to school and they're taught oh boy you know you people were slaves and dr king marched in then you got obama and this is how history looks to a lot of young black people in the schools they go to so we need to talk about their own safety talk about the truth we need to. show everyone what america really is you know if we have a want to move forward differently so how does that historical stand of slavery still play at and society today because i think a lot of people don't want the past its history i get it but how does the fact you know the history of slavery in the united states affect black lives every day slavery was the most important thing when talking about the foundation of america
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and how this country was built and you know the founders and the big business leaders in the dust of people they know this you know you can produce can grow to be a super power because of free labor now when the whole world started looking at the united states is saying oh my god you know you get treated humans like this good luncheon and beating them and selling them and take them away from their parents and you don't know these things you guys are horrible people america said wait a second we have to figure out a way to replace slavery and this is why we have the president just a complex of a president is actually better for america than slavery because slave masters had to take your health care you know they had to feed a slave they had to make sure it was ok to work now we get in slave labor is from incarcerated people suffer the tax dollars are flipping the bills so we pay for the food we pay for health care we pay to house them in these big corporations get to make all of money off of it that's a great point that's a really good point and speaking of imprisonment yorks to me slavery imprisonment
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forever intertwined you know this week we've got the big debate you know over immigration in the imprisonment of hundreds of parents and children of the sun at the southern border. it is playing out before our very eyes but the harsh imprisonment of people here in the states is actually an old story you know that's something that's been happening not only in recent generations but multiple generations ago for people living here you know. when you look at that and do you think enough people see it through the lens where we too could have caught up in the current event to actually step back and say wait a minute we've been imprisoning people come into this country either they're imprisoned and then brought to this country or they're imprisoned after they got here for a long period of time when talking about detainment and what's happening at the border right now i've heard so many people would jump up and say we'd like nazi germany it's like that's in germany and i'm like no this is america being america talk to the native american people about those native american boarding schools where they try to force a simulation of how many people die because they talk about chattel slavery people
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who literally stolen from their country forced to work in a country that they don't understand don't speak their language don't go to people and even whatever can slaves work hard to assimulate and be able to get married to become christers they still remain of risk of being separated from their families and in talk to japanese people in the camps that you know this is what america does breaking up families written people apart. and chasing the almighty dollars so you know i don't you know no i don't think. we don't even have the luxury to talk about nazi germany because when the nazis study eugenics came through i'm very. happy to . see that but there is this idea that we just think like that's not us that's not my america you might want to check what america you're living in. there's a lot of really bad stuff leaking in our genes here like you said i mean you we put people in camps less than
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a century ago we have people who can see the same time and just because we didn't gassed people doesn't somehow make us better and now when you see what's happening you said it's. it becomes about graded business you know slavery it was about labor it was about what they needed to get to make money and now what they're saying is again to try to sort of like make this all make sense is that in two thousand and twelve a sociologist at san diego state university found that as many as thirty eight thousand four hundred fifty eight victims of labor trafficking violations are reported just in san diego county and potentially as many as two point four million trafficking victims just among unauthorized mexican immigrants. is that not a slay a well flats a slave trade that is the slave trade at why is that not why is that not so obvious other people and i just sensitive i just a snowflake to think that two point four million people being trafficked over borders from the us. for essentially tax free labor you know that it's no flea if
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you believe in humanity. that's the difference between being some type of corporate mogul and being a person when you have proximity to people and you can see their pain and their struggles and what they go through that you can you can have empathy you can sympathize with them when you're just a person pushing at the top of the food chain you're not thinking about any one of this easy food a person like the president to make little jokes and jabs about these kids being detained because then his children he doesn't even know a person who is that going to happen to even if it's like one of his maids you know he probably doesn't know her he probably doesn't know her children these things don't matter and you know to me i'm going to say this is me representing myself i think it's pure evil i think it's pretty bad even when you look at those images and you see those children if you don't feel anything when you see that then something is seriously wrong with you here's an interesting question you know i think part of the in my opinion and i'll ask you guys is is is part of the problem the fact that
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we are still painted a very rosy colored history of the united states in our as when we started as children in high school and the legal enough through high school that we don't paint a gray enough picture of us decisions government decisions and society decisions for people to really understand that this is something that's long going that we need to be fighting against bijan vigilantly today and for much of the future everything in our own lives you know growing up as a child teacher teaches you that america is the best place in the world and even encourage you to you have to go anywhere else you've already made it you're already at the promised land so it's like that's part of how we are. you know growing up in a predominantly black space where black people were the common knowledge was africa bad america good canada bad america good america america america so it's like there's something very normal and we have. a duty to challenge we have to fight
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that let me ask you this actually i have this interesting conversation we brought up earlier today with that i'm curious to hear about it you know there's a lot of people pushing back right now you know like you said you see those images gets you angry that's evil anyone who doesn't see the humanity of them now here's the question if you're in a political debate with somebody and they justify that in some way do you continue talking to that person do you continue keeping that debate going or do you just simply push them away and turn your back and say i don't want to talk to this person anymore because that's an interesting conundrum that a lot of people are facing right now because the country is split politically debates don't really work for me so i try to spend months of working with people who are intellectually curious about racism intellectually curious about other countries intellectually curious about you know the way we should treat each other how we're supposed to respect women in other people's property and things like that and i feel like i'm being more productive than fussing with like if this is twenty eight team and you tell me some of the stuff is normal you know then it's like i feel like and i hate to say it like this i just don't think i have enough tom in
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this world. you know. maybe that i mean we mostly exhaust ourselves you know the internet making this idea that we exhaust ourselves trying to that you know they say that you have to educate me well if i'm wrong then explain it to me show me the facts send me the link there's this idea that there is this labor involved that we're supposed to constantly you know be correcting other people or trying to educate other people when you're an adult you're an adult and twenty eighteen if you don't realize putting kids. fencing is wrong or that the entire argument around you know and i think it's a why if i was right there i love about her the most variable. oh you get cable in prison and you know that if you don't realize that that's nonsense if you don't realize that this is about corporations making money in prisons and locking people up to make profits for people on the wall street that give money to politicians then you're so far behind that i don't know if you can go forward and i think it is
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but it's hard we all want to do it really knowing let's try this again just to have this and then remember it cost more money to actually use these kids didn't it not cage them so if this is supposed to be about smaller government and saving money then conservatives you got it wrong again ok. all right always a pleasure having you on the walk ins author educator speaker bold proposal but you so much for coming out of. the scary site computer generated special effects in movies has ever made the terrifying chilling and blood curdling run a source rex in the one nine hundred ninety three film drastic part but just in time for the opening of the latest installment jurassic world it looks like dr henry woo deserves a bit of a tongue lashing for one glaring mistake in his prehistoric creations new research from a group at the university of texas at austin studies fossils of the t.-rex most specifically the hyoid bone a fragile small bone near the top of the throat that keeps the tongue in place in t. rex hyoid what they found is that they were short and some learn to those of alligators
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and what this means is that the t.-rex couldn't move their tongues around all that much at all so ridiculously short arms and immovable tom. you know maybe dr drew was what was right and drastic park monster really is a relative term who are resident card records are small arms are that is are they remember everyone in this world or not told you about this or you're not told your love story to tell you all i love you i am going to have a lot of people are watching the stars day and night. the bag. right we're all set to start in five
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