i am not in this same opinion in one crucial point which is i think we need more europe and not less europe to solve to crisis and i give you a practical example today we have to harmonize the laws and it is the most urgent issue to solve today it is possible that a migrant that is not accepted in one country for example in germany can just switch country and restart the blinding in another country for example in need so you know in france and if you doesn't succeed kiyoshi doesn't succeed there they just switch on and go we have to how nice their laws to accept and see because we have to harmonize to reduce duration and of course we have to harmonize that a collaboration of secure. regions for example germany has the clear parts of afghanistan a secure country and doesn't accept the salem see because they just sweep streets a league in their accepted because italy has not declared parts of afghanistan to

secure so we have urgently to find transnational european solutions for these problems otherwise we will not be able to stop the crisis ok i can see in paris john is really disagreeing let me go to ralph well quickly it seems to me that roland you want to create the united states of europe and everything to date shows that's not what people want no one ever asked the europeans if they ever wanted that route let me go to you are not a very important issue there isn't being brought up here and this applies to the united states and europe is that there are criminal gangs making a fortune off of this scam ok bringing people in their n.g.o.s you know they do gooders but no they're blinded by ideology they're there pat they're ideologically possessed they have a hatred for their own culture a hatred for europe they want to just wipe it away and fill it up with foreign alien people i'm sorry to sound so politically incorrect but that is true particularly the criminal. yang's in and south of the mexican south of in the

mexican border and all through the mediterranean you have a lot of people preying on some very weak people and i'd like to point out also that it's often forgotten the people that do want to immigrate to the united states and to europe they should stay in their own country and build their own country ok and set of having the west have to subsidize them in their own country where they laughed ok that's a lot said right there go ahead ralph. yeah but i do agree to a certain extent because i once raised a question movement a press conference with mrs merkel and she made the same mistake that many people do it was also in our discussion here now that we mix migration issues the asylum you know to uphold the asylum the right of a side which is a human right and we have to uphold to those who need it we cannot make step issue with migration now what i do agree with is that what we see at the moment at the mexican border is probably a step up by deep state or by some people who want to make mr trump act and mr

trump is not on your because he remembers what happened to two this is murder of a tree they are suddenly at the refugees coming in and that is what's advertised as the bucket route by the media now at the beginning of this year sometime in spring i watched a program on c.n.n. there was a colleague on the report a colleague on the on a bus tour from central america towards the. u.s. border and reporting from it and advertising it kind of saying i would as a way to go to the united states of course you can instigate and obviously it's the trump is facing because now i'm. crying children and parents being arrested of all that i don't think that he wants to see that it's now a fact that they want to carry him red tape like to do with mrs merkel and the only two time state and government in the last twelve years one decision was was about a financial crisis and she pumped billions into banking. system stating things this

is the second decision she made during the twelve year reign was in two thousand fifteen to say ok these people sleeping on the train station stick and car but after that she lost control and. or right wing parties and left us to make a mistake especially germany i see don't do much about what to do sentiments of people we are able to take many more it's not a problem because we are a rich country but we have to take care of people who are already in germany first and then we can say. my purpose but asylum should be obviously separate from that because there is no limit to the human rights you know john a lot has been said since you last spoke there and i can read your mind this far away that more europe is not the solution juxtaposition what our friend roland had to say go ahead john. yes i wanted to come back to that point in response to the question you asked about the economic rationale you rightly put your finger on the

paradox that immigration is justified economically because it keeps wages down and gives a supply of cheap labor and so on but that in reality of course many of the migrants end up being out of work and in any case there's a lot of youth unemployment in europe by asking that question peter you have highlighted the point i made in my first answer namely that the ideological reasons that i referred to which are european are not motivated by economic good sense we can have a debate about whether or not you need cheap labor britain by the way is an economic model for that because britain has imported millions of low cost workers from poland and romania since two thousand and four and we've seen the effects of that on the economy an increase in g.d.p. and a collapse in productivity but that's not what's driving the immigration ideology it's it's precisely not to. konami rational it is instead ideology you know it's

important to recall that one of the founding fathers of the european integration is movement richard fun couldn't who in one nine hundred twenty five called for the races of europe to be mixed with other bloods for the european race to be mixed with other bloods in order to create a new european of the future he had to sort of racialist a few except the other way around from the nazis who wanted racial mix city racial diversity and this idea which he first published in one thousand nine hundred five he's a big figure he was the first president of the of the council of europe for example this idea remains alive today in the minds of european leaders particularly incidentally german ones. now president of the. for many years the german minister of finance said in an interview indeed site in two thousand and sixteen that if we didn't have migrants and we kept them out then europe would descend into incest he

used the word incest and similarly the german president york in the dark said we needed migrants to get rid of the idea that me being german means being white and being christian so there is a very clear ideological drive here to inject new populations into europe in order to change the structure of those populations and that is part of the european dream it's part of the post national european but just goes very very. that's why when europe is not the other how would that make europe better i don't get it ok i travel to europe all the time i don't see it's improving i see it's declining rapidly finish up john peter peter the bolshevik revolution didn't make russia better but that didn't mean that people didn't believe in it they believed in it because it's an ideology it's a post national ideology which these people want to implement by replacing the population in their crazy my. and that's what they're doing ok we're all in it you

know italy has been hit very hard by this immigration crisis we can use that word i mean shouldn't italy on its own be able to decide what happens with inside its borders i mean why is it waiting for merkel ways at waiting for brussels why is it waiting for this summit that's going to happen in the weekend i mean italy's a sovereign country it should take care of its people first particularly the unemployment a bit so you think it's critical right now go ahead roland at a tally and have to decide for themselves go ahead well i did that is exactly what is happening now after the last elections of march for we have the biggest issue to do right ever in posts you know world war two history need to lead and in fact a new government is blocking ngo ship saying they're not democratically controlled the new government is seeking to put this impatient of spain and he's looking

merkel especially the german chancellor under strong pressure to find a different solution only solution is needed in europe is to control the out of borders we have to retake control as being council president on the ball and stay there ready to go in for and we have to regain control of four of the borders yellow what are the what about it i'm sorry roll what about italy's borders what about italy's borders isn't that the first thing you should be thinking about first and italians or yeah the sad thing is that in this point you are absolutely right it really is forced to take control over its own borders maybe more or less alone why i give you an example from texas which is the official agency of border protection in europe is based in washington and features four hundred four collaborators to protect the whole of. europe.

total budget of two hundred eighty one million which is one hundred years of work germany alone spends a year for the refugees which is a disproportioned it cannot be held we just need one portion that yeah that's an understatement my friend that's an understatement ok we are at amazing let me go to ralph here i mean ralph if we could put put aside all the ideology and all of the virtues signaling what so what some concrete things to do in the united states i think there should be built a wall then there won't be any children torn from their parents ok it won't happen what can you do as a first step in your mind a practical step. but i heard i'm probably best for them and i know it is to live on an island surrounded by a wall and we don't want to see was there any more but. i understand that in the united states it's a different story and of course the wall that we had to keep people from fleeing from chip in to a country so it's

a bit different of course to compare it to was generally i think there has to be better ways now as europe speech should commonly discuss how we can beg live in countries where it might once have to leave the country because they feel not safe the second point is the kind of course groups things in those countries fighting negotiating to be added to your in partnership agreement of africa i've spent a lot of time now in africa at the moment and we you know obviously you know. if we're almost out of time but one thing the west could do is stop bombing those countries so these people won't flee ok that would be a perfectly good practical step we've run out of time gentlemen many thanks to my guests and parents hold on oh and we've got to end thanks to our viewers for watching us here at r.t. see you next time and remember.

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