the students read to. me the. budgets. are. going to welcome to worlds apart russia may be basking in the glory of the world cup for the moment but it comes on the heels of many debilitating sporting traumas from the doping allegations to the suspension of the entire parlin picked team in the last year of winter games. come football how did this country regain its respect in sports and get the ball rolling again to discuss that i'm now joined by

legendary soviet and russian hockey player just off it he said it's tough it's great on a talking to you thank you very much for your time thank you now russia usually takes pride in being a great nation but i think we are much humbler when it comes to football i mean and here we are securing two wins in the walled compound hosting what many describe as a relatively well put together tournament what gives you more joy so far the quality of the game or the quality of our going to zation i think the. world cup itself when you are going to. such a huge. should realize tonight this is the france for the people in the first place on a woman come from around the world to enjoy the game of course it's. its success of the game itself especially. let me pick up on that because i think the russian national team has been the by. if many bitter jokes that reach

usually center on the point that the players get lots of money but don't work hard enough how is it possible that the team that has been disappointing for so long suddenly all of a sudden become so spectacular says historical. but. of close showed the national team is a good friend of my before the game number two against egypt. i call him i said listen you should get the special or soon to be. from the broken i'm part of and i build the team and for the success. now it's. lots of surprise for a position i worked with how you know i mean the fans as well i thing in many fans didn't expect is there one of the thinks. make this for the. most watchable. and. predictable

result and the surprise of the team but i mean it's one thing to have unpredictable results that's what sport is all about and it's another thing to have unpredictable performance and i think if you look at what many commentators have written many recognise that the open air with saudi arabia involving a degree agreed to agree a flag but people recognise that the second with egypt was about pure quality how do you sustain that quality how do you get the team to give it basque all the time rather than the once in a while i think it's the pressure of the team was in the last few months and i said you are. feeling to do to delay and each other not to be. one leader we're going to make that is. good most difficult thing for the team who hosted the world championships and then yang a sport and. the pressure from the emirates fans from general situation stuff like that. good job and i think the day they feel the confidence right now and they can

go all the way to how do you make it last because you alluded to it earlier there is a quality to russians of you know get everything together when they need but they also have a tendency of relaxing when the pressure is a little bit lighter how do you sustain that performance across the board but this is the mission in my of they understand. why they're here and what they can game this is the easier when they get together their focus and then that is. it's no time to relax it's time to get. all your skill set or you know one thing and once and play for each other of us was. unbelievable feeling was on the one of the russian channels should do for the two years young kids among the twenty two twenty three right now how they develop as a player what kind of. situation they out to overcome to to become the national

team players and of course and i when you see the situation and i understand that when they're all together when truth is probably there so yes my real life time chance to do it to be successful now. obviously are not only allowed in their player you were also a very successful coach and he mentioned. russian national coach mr chess of course was criticized before for not having a coherent strategy do you as a coach do you see what he is trying to do with this team and do you agree with his mission. i think just thought he has the right to bring the right to the players to play for the nations and on this is the most successful. story in a sports when you understand that's what's in the front of your chest more important more than your work your man can be a successful team and i think it was work in the last couple of years to bring this bright for the players through to present the nation. and of course it was an easy

easy job you have to look around have to find these young kids. who are not in their favor to me and many of france are not always sudden they. become the. national football team respond respond to it well and this is the coaching job i think it's to give them my. support when they needed even push when they needed to finally they did it look like a team now you mention that the most important thing is to you you know develop this pride in the sense of responsibility for the country you represent and we obviously expect that not only from our national team but also from our country as a whole and i think there are signs among russian people that we have cracked perhaps a little bit flag issue not you know pushing off when it comes to making russia the country that we want to see what do you think it will take for russia as a nation to operate the game more generally. i want to say the rest of the world to

mine the last sixteen years i was just three months russia has the biggest sporting no action or. the most time and i'm going to repeat there will no more alliance in the and the world. and during this period of time it's no one international figuration or any. sport critics do you assume or it's negative. feedback from the world to be undone and of course it's. feel good specially potations i think we can host any any man and bring the new stand up because in that aspect balloting and and. showed you know a new russia is preserved and i think it's. if you get back to the twenty or forty nine in pick games out of my sphere i've been in the many international competition i think the south must have was being created by the young people who would be in.

well in two years france out of it's alive during the. storm i'm. being unfair again the rove and the repeat the building. this is the russia all about them especially. in the different cities and different parts of the russian but. you have to say it welcome the world we want to show the. new russia the stuff you know that there is a peculiar quality to russians that we tend to treat our aghast batter than ourselves or our own people do you think there will be any change in russia on the inside in the aftermath for example of the world cup in terms of how our police force treats large crowds on the streets on about how open russians are to the rest of the world do you expect any of that now even though in the high game this must. mean your game. which is supposed to be you know how to play in the hard hitting

with stuff like that they play artistically ripley create your style here always being the grace if in any sport this is the form to the people around the game and of course you know it's. not a hard thing sold out to the host people to give them the respect and make them feel comfortable and think it's not so wrong and trust me i've been around for and i. must say i was just really feel right now in the streets of the huge secure mosque was huge but you feel the atmosphere of the on the streets and every restaurant. in the communication just said different and i think many journalists even the most critical agree that dylan just six has been generally very good but. this was how it was wrong but i think this world cup also comes at a very substantial price tag. you know building those twelve stadiums has cost

something around eleven billion dollars which is pretty huge do you put that on poor management skills or good corruption skills because you know that there are some criminal investigations into second projects and some of the stadiums have been massively behind the schedule bad news and good news tonight good news is this all just video we're going to stay here in the russian and i'm going to go in there right. only problem after face after the world cup to fill out the stadiums and. people come being the key of c. make this. four ball around does a family family. of course it's a big big big. quality of the game on the interest of the. media and now of course the people. that used it so if you're just me as soon as this is the. christian to me at the time when you are

well you already already have member of parliament these days i think if you didn't come through about of course. after world cup somebody's going to ask you nice why do you spend. twice three times more than the supposed to be this is the different story that i know that you yourself had an experience of managing budgets and russia as a former top official responsible for sports here are credited for building infrastructure particularly for the. children sports so i assume you know the system from the inside how easy is it in russia to steal from the budget and how difficult it is to do your job properly when you. get the price tag on the stadium here compared to what's going on around the world to see is it to minutes right when you get. a say hi carrie i'm supposed to go hundred twenty minutes and i was just with of course on the twentieth you're going to close . two hundred forty million after somebody after just one forgets in my last

country although of course you might have to see it was grandma around the altar of the football stadium and in germany or england or united states. costs a certain amount runny and i say it's a do you still put it on corruption or do you think it's just russian being sloppy manager it's. supposed to the prosecutor or somebody else in all of them i think but there could be a there or here my answer would be a nice my experience to build it reaches into a nice double course for something else while i just often have to take a very short break now but we will be back in just a few moments a chance. to

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welcome back to worlds apart with legendary hockey player back just laughing she said. we are all consumed by the world cup so i think easy to forget that this year has actually been very hard from what they would say pretty humiliating for russians boards you know the continuation of the doping saga saga the stripping of our olympic team of its national symbols the suspension though they parlin picked him. do you think all of that is now left in the past or is it still hanging over our athletes despite all the joy and glory of the world cup i think it's. going to continue for both you and i asked to give an answer and some christians. internationally be comedian miles until they're going to solve this problem is sufficient going to be the same but all of the soccer would be maybe

argument to you to maybe a fight begins with the. two agree or disagree and of course it's. still. internationals for us is the right to diplomacy and i have to know how to communicate afterward and i was going on our own of course you know. it's. we can see it may be a political thing it's just. completely disagree it's of sports. being the people together i play in the international stage since i was fourteen and never forget my first international experience when i was dick's discriminated by soviet kids you know fourteen years old grew up in the barracks after world war two and it's because born in certain place i mean to say scanner for. it was unpleasant for the keep in mind when the but to be not be in. is.

becoming even through the game you know it's really completely different what the propaganda or brainwash. people do have to. define i mean there is a saying in russia that you should not whine after the game is over. and i think you're making a good point that you we should be you know facing these challenges as they happen rather than the thousand to you mentioned president putin and i give me a position of the minister of sport in my situation was. similar what's going on right now and what he's told me and i have to bring their russia to the international family have to play for the same role was. created by their international she durations of course and pick a meeting and stuff like that and then i start working on making the connection that we start to be part of the. international system and you solve the lots of

problems and i have to you have to keep keep poor. hand to know you balls enough to see what's going on around the other otherwise you're going to be in trouble just like i know that you really know the only person appointed in charge of sports you have been pretty open in your criticism of italian look or a close friend of lighting and putting his close associate i'm somebody whose name comes up a lot in. allegations you're not the first person to accuse him of incompetence i wonder where do you date and you know a lot of people but where do you center your criticism because there are many people who would say that when it comes to building the bad news when it comes to providing logistics for the olympics for the world cup he also deserves part of the credit so where exactly did he fail in your view. if you're good manager you can manage anything you know about the when you own still be the best in the world you have to learn details was around that this is the guy you got into and you think

people. just say it and then when you feel you. hear or could be good but it's going to good and you doesn't have a feeling from inside it was going on could be. lead you know the wrong direction i don't want it so you should be inside to exactly say what you were inside and so can you be a little bit more straightforward than i was on the inside is kind of push me out of this board since you become the minister and i was on. and off in the nick to riches but this was pretty strange and i if you're smart. to know in life your. man got the connection there on the walls you got to put patients should use them but. then of course from the side i was right to do my best said walter i was just once of about that sooner if you got the minister of the sports in the russian federation this is the key and this is our going back to the doping allegations

specifically you used to play in defense you were the basket of bad do you think the defense strategy was an offense offensive defenseman as little better than. working well i've been there they say that offense is the best defense i think is the case for russia but when it comes to the strategy. here russia chose the defense strategy russia chose in responding to a big building allegations do you think it was an efficient one. producer and i if i would be involved in the process it would not details in detail so was happening i would give you my. straight down sir but i can't. comment all what's happened last year so what they feel and what they have no. known details and of course it's not give me in my. company it's right to say what sources hundred percent wrong but again i think it's international system they've got to.

clear our system and i if you deal did you have to pay the price if you're not to feel your money guilty you have to go in the fighting there you've got the costs and you've got the international situation who's supposed to. do this together you know the committee. i was. chairman for two or three terms and they all walked in there for one thing to a fight for the this who is not guilty i think it's you got all these months if you don't know how to use your program if you're afraid to use because you know they're going to be open more or probably this from inside this and other things you know i interviewed a number of western anti-doping officials and they all used this line that you just had that russia was punished because it was caught and i think that's fair enough

but the way russia was caught you know all the. everything build on the testimonies are good options of course is not reliable witness in any legal sense died doesn't seem right to many russians in other interviews you were actually pretty critical of how russia has been dumping allegations but what about why this handling of it do you think it was. fair a doctor and prison are for. people from the world the know for since two thousand and two because they said tonight to try to help you try to solve the problem because it's an eye so tidings for everybody and of course we need to some response from the russian side of course to someone who thinks or feels hear him out to protect their rights or the commission and there you have the minister go into to meet international to members of the you see that are present russia i mean it's this is

a situation i think supposed to be solved fairly and when they get their share of. problems years later for generation when they go to. disqualify it for the. open we should go and fight them in the courts and for their rights. of course is some extent bindiya that really did you get a lift and i went there agreed that this was a try to get and i mean be games and then i realize. one month before the start and i was delayed because it's a fault of the tour it's just because. sometimes doesn't how mining because process so the idea to ration caused a lot for an individual that i think it's possible but they've got the examples around that it's. lost money from the project i'm go in the last of the case in this last of mine in the case and of course in ice they spread around and nobody

wants to go in there and if i can i ask one more question on this subject because you were the one who are ultimately appointed mr archer to had our rushes actually helping lab and i know it was a collegial decision but there's still your signature on there and i wonder if you have ever been granted and most importantly do you think this scandal would have happened if it weren't for rochon like him. it's was collective decision because my answer was really. i would say. unique position when you have to be qualify as a professional you have to be in the. know what you do in of course it's just one of many people around the world can get disposition but. to be in the middle of the clock you know when he got to so many fewer in the whole responsible for same situation and i'm not blaming you are more asking about i said i'm sure all the everything was done my. time and i did my time and of course you know it's the.

coach just wants to try to find the easy way but if you control it you know you can not let these things up and when they're not controlled that's a situation of course and i. do you think it would still have happened if it weren't for watching was here. even the main reason for that scandal would have would have happened anyway if i would be minister i don't know during the games to snare i have. now let me switch. gears to you your current preoccupation last month you were appointed as u.n. goodwill ambassador for the arctic and antarctic and as a way of attracting attention to the polar issues here are going to host this. very interesting hockey match add the north pole i'm sure it's going to be a spectacular show but what is that what is it actually going to do for the environment and actual terms i was appointed by the state duma especially you

present your representative for the state doing man that whole international game is asian that you got into sport and i. went to the. u.n. and talked to the people who responded was that listen i think it's. the sports and then i don't want to bring the people together save the walton you assume that you from the brochure have to be focused to. what they're supposed to fight all together. i'm not question i my idea was born ten years ago with the play there on how to game in north fall. before my fifty's because then things got to didn't happen because when i mentioned this idea to the people who just passed before make a decision and then i met. him. i was. responsible. for the amount of months i said listen i got a year so it was great let me take you know it's got the monster to talk to good people who are supposed to be a part of the. game and. all of sudden

a few months later he came to my school and they give me and i still stay tell him my answer was huge on their. responsibility privileged. to get and i of course and i said it when i didn't. think was so was so easy to. be in the people in the board also speaking about that i know that president clinton is a likely to play in that place but. i'm far more excited about leonardo dicaprio and i know that he is from what i heard donna north cape i mean he would be a great attraction to sitting on the sidelines but do you think there is actually a chance of him facing off against put him and john kerry and john kerry well for iraq it was a good. time and of course i give you my jersey on there was

a russian on the one hand on the event and i said this is great can i play to put it on the same team as a. welcome maybe. and then i thought to pick up here are about the situation he said his great idea but. i don't know how to skate and i said listen i if you're going to make good decisions and you know how to skate and they say. he is fifty eight then you know you're still young guy explain everything and he said ok and i held to start skating the odd bit but. it was going to be good promotional the game if people like the copper could start united with the internet his first step when i say there is progress i'm going to and and i could game and of course united. for us is a good chance not only. to make a decision on top i'm also due to bring attention of the true do nights he commands of the in the politics and in the sports and the russians generally good that when

it comes to the arctic's i think that they has invested a lot in playing out of the especially you get. into and into one of the liberation of the town of the discovery of the arctic. you're probably one of the. many countries who are in the west for a long period of time last summer a hundred or so years so that to. study and. see what's going on in decisions about of course you know it's going to get the opportunity to say i will restore the whole thing i. care about decisions and of course we can i'm sure the rest are all to know how it's. used to problem sports and the dollars it can bring the people together i definitely look forward to that a great match thank you very much for at finding some of your time with us today as well i cringe every year to keep this conversation going in our social media pages hope to see you again same place same time here and while the part of.

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everything still to play for national pride hanging in the balance top teams germany mexico belgium. rival saturday in the world cup here in russia we're going to be across all those matches and follow the fun trail to. come and sit down to see the other games because we're in the world cup so that's what we wanted to see. away from the headlines this weekend a powerful photo and a time magazine cover seen as a damning indictment of immigration policy is discovered to be misleading. british royals to. a former russian double agent and his daughter were poisoned in march.