matt taibbi don't listen more coming up in today's going underground professing glint place panama tomorrow at nizhni novgorod as part of russia twenty eight team panama's recent history has been dominated by us back to take has and their washington funded death squads there when washington's narco traffic a man well noriega got two independent at least he was overthrown no i'm job ski explains the problem was that the thug was getting a little too independent you know thugs are fine i mean it doesn't matter whether it's a minor one what are your major ones like saddam hussein a matter hitler who we also as were the un they're fine you know as well as a fellow workers. but if they become independent they become as bad as priests who were organizing bible study groups then their beds and you got to get rid of it while panama was a washington back narco state used to kill sandinistas in nicaragua its relation to england which it plays against to morrow is something a little different when turned out of

a banking bombshell causing shock waves around the world the so-called panama papers believed to be the biggest data leak in history or exposing out some of the world's wealthiest and most powerful people i'll cut you short there american n.b.c. because nothing was proved against our british prime minister put tourism a on the path to number ten although u.k. labor leader jeremy corbyn did say panama meant the end of public trust in david cameron i suggested mr speaker the prime minister's record particularly over the past week show the public no longer has the trust in him to deal with these matters does he realize why people are so angry. does he realize to members opposite realised why people are so angry if n.b.c. link to euro news had no time for jeremy colvin sliming tax dodging in their liberalism the england panama match tomorrow may at least provide some welcome public distraction for the u.k. government joining me now in a week of august caylus over u.k. plans for. breck's it which some believe was catalyzed by neo liberalism and the

immigration debate is britain's former europe minister lord hain today on the two year anniversary of the vote to leave the e.u. well then things were going back on quite another week in breaks it terms how much of a problem that she's lost seven to minister in eight months kind of bad strategically to lose a international trade minister this week greg hands obviously a blow because trade ministers are supposed to negotiate the new trade deals it'll follow bridget so to be one down in the task is clearly a problem but i think i'm right in saying he resigned over heathrow that has for him to go ahead with a third runway a decision i happen to think it's absolutely right for london and for the whole of the u.k. but i think we're going to see increasing problems for tourism a government not just on of this kind it beat others of course the home secretary

resigning a few months ago. over a immigration issue but the fact that they've not really come clean because they're divided in themselves as to what they're going to do a break since we know that at least we're on course following the referendum result for britain to leave the european union i think hugely damaging and disastrously but that was the referendum results but nobody knows yet and to raise a may isn't able to say. because our government is divided on this what our relationship with the biggest trading market that britain has by far heartfelt trade goods cars and so on and services and services like the city of london is with the the european union countries it's the biggest richest trading block in the world by a long way and the idea that we're going to get a better deal with or without the international trade secretary to replace this

seamless frictionless arrangements that we have with the european union is i think just michelle i don't think it's going to happen you're a former cabinet minister what do you think it's like in that cabinet room when in the maze case for much else for the exchequer now has it it's the local london newspaper the evening standard and that it on the day of the debate over one of those amendments printed an article about speculation that the fact the pound was sliding was due to the expectation in the city the teresa mayes premiership was finished well she's survived so far almost a crisis a week and the fact that the party is so divided on it that's just fact i'm not making that point as a labor politician because they be invited to well it we've got divisions in europe as well unfortunately but the fact that a party is so divided between the really dogmatic brigs that is the jacob reese mobs the liam fox's the david davis' and the rest. and those who want

a sensible deal out of this including if not exactly the same as the single market in the customs union then so much the same that you might as well be in them in order to protect our economy our jobs are not trade they just divided down the middle and that's why she survived it because they called agree on who would replace us or my my bet is she probably will survive until the real crunch comes you're saying the stakes are so high f. course it's predictable the city of london trying to protect this. some would argue the globalization agenda would be against what is happening a report this week twenty six trillion of derivative contracts will now not be written in time for any hard date for brics it is an honorable position for a prime minister to be when she's negotiating knowing how divided things are rather than realizing that we need a government that understands how high the stakes are well look i think she's acting in an honorable way from her point of view i don't think there's

a question of dishonor attached sorries amazement but she's trying to do something that is not possible she's trying to get all the benefits for britain of being in the european club without any of the obligations and now we have a draft inclusion for next week's e.u. summit suggesting the european council is urging preparations for no deal presumably in cabinet people are saying this is all just hard talk because that's a good negotiating position from brussels point of view it's not real there is a way through this obviously in a negotiation people lost striking public positions from in order to start from a stronger position as they say is increasingly harder line yes but what i think i don't not surprised by this and michel barnier is not behaving in a in a number pleasant fashion or a an arrogant fashion nor giving us access to evade law enforcement databases and whatnot is european arrest warrant what he's saying is if you're going to enjoy

that essential cooperation to catch criminals that we want brought back from wherever it is in the rest of the european union to britain then we've got to buy by the laws of the european union which we do now through the european court of justice whereas what teresa mayes government is saying is no we don't want to have anything to do with the european court of justice give us an insight now into your leader's views on brics it has always been a line throughout his political career with tony benn's pro brix it views that brussels. was a great dream a great idea but actually in the end destroyed itself in bureaucracy and corporate lobby germy position has been essentially summarized that the european union is a capitalist club which it is just like britain is and pretty well every other part of the world is sadly from the time chinese government have to use the chinese government has got a kind of state capitalism that they call communism but is really nothing of the kind and therefore he's instinctively antagonistic to now my argument with jeremy

and those who share his view is of course the european union is that as a capitalist pretty well every country in the world the point is you change it by being within its. just like you change britain not biopsying old apollo and the logic of that position is we don't stand as a labor party for policy because it's part of a couple's institution and that it in a crude summary is his position i think that's wrong it's not shared by other socialists across the european union who want us to stay it's not shared by the trade union movement which wants us to remain within the single market and the customs union or school bit in france well it does start again yes he does not the single markets in the single market remember we are an eighty percent services economy we don't make enough things anymore in the traditional sense but we're an eighty percent services economy and we're very successful at it you can't get free

access for all services whether it's i.t. or whether it's financial services unless you are in the single markets or unless you have exactly the same relations and relationship with the existing single market as you have now and it will if you're going to have the same relationship with it and the same relationship within the customs union then you come back to my point you have to be the rules of it in the end is it actually going to come down to island island talking more fiercely this week saying anything without agreement over the border means no deal whatsoever it would be imbibing waves generated i've always thought as a former secretary of state for northern ireland from a cabinet minister for in all the model and on the go shared under tony blair the settlement that brought in paisley and martin mcguinness into power in two thousand and seven to rule together successfully i've always thought the irish border is the

achilles heel of the dogmatic brigs of position the jacob reese more i didn't you tell david cameron at the time when he called or at the end of that actually i was out there during the referendum and i did media stuff saying exactly that and. in order to keep a completely open border an invisible border as you have now which is crucial to the peace process why because for republicans for those who believe ireland should be reunited does it historically once was for them they have been abandoned their own struggle at least the vast majority and their wars they source against britain because the prospects of a united ireland through the good friday process by a referendum rather than by the bullets in the bottom is now available they just have to persuade the majority of the people in the island to support them if there was a demand for a referendum but it is also of crucial importance to them and to the irish

government and to everybody on the island of ireland that that border remains as invisible as it is now you call do that by no deal which is why the irish government is absolutely right because if you no deal then you're left with will trade organization rules and that is the external customs fronts here of the european union the only one we are directly connected to as a united kingdom through them through northern ireland and that has to be policed it has to be it has to be controlled to stop the rules of the european union being broken and chinese material coming through the u.k. and into the european union through the back door and that kind of thing but fundamentally you'll remain a pro-capitalist position as it were pro-capitalism a social capital club but i'm sure they should they say you do recognise that all these myriad phenomena that we see in italy and in greece they all reflections from the twenty zero eight crash solving things from we did institutions is not seen is

a method well well look there's two issues here the first is globalisation in the way it's worked and particularly the way the crash the great financial crash happened which cost us all as taxpayers. billions and billions of pounds and the bankers got away pretty well scot free it was absolutely outrageous that was a product of a particular neo liberal economic system which i'm opposed to and which has to be reformed if we're going to get political stability in the world but that's a different issue from saying that in this particular situation of britain withdrawing from the european union and yes i was a remain the choice is you either do this in a sensible way what i call a one nation way remember the referendum result split the country down the middle split families down the middle. streets and neighbors down middle and friends down the middle it was fifty two forty eight i'm not disputing the results of the democratic verdict which has to be respected but the sensible way to do it would be

to stay in the single market in the europe and the customs union and exit the european union you could do that norway's outside the european union but in the in in the single market turkey's outside the european union but in the customs union britain could strike a unique deal but it's only the right wing hard right very very extreme capitalists like the j. j. mugs and the liam fox as in the david davis is on the rest that are preventing that happening in holding their prime minister and the country to ransom that's what i object to what happened thank you after the break it's all chrissy and donald trump is weapons of mass destruction with rolling stones matt taibbi as britain prepares for a controversial visit from the so-called leader of the free world though this is more important to him going underground.

when a loved one is murdered it's natural to seek the death penalty for the murder i would prefer it be to the death penalty just because i think that's the fair thing the right thing research shows that for every nine executions one convict is found innocent the idea that we were executing innocent people is terrifying there's just no way that doesn't mean that we're even many victims' families want the death penalty to be abolished the reason we had to get help here is because that's what murder victim's family is what that's going to give them peace that's going to give them justice and we come in and say. not quite enough we've been through this this isn't the way.

i strongly believe that the jews that if you can close of the humanity united states and the russian federation a lot and they want to and i strongly hope that the divisions that have existed in the country will be overcome and that the two countries will be able to have very strong cooperation a lowing the international system to work there is no way in which an international system like ours can work without a solid cooperation between the two most important. welcome back you gave political leaders dres a may and jeremy corbin traded statistics and new liberal taxation accusations of this week's prime minister's questions over the public health care crisis but the leader of the s.n.p.

and westminster had other things on his mind many of us in this house full view we had of the deeply distressing audio and images of children separated from their peers in u.s. detention centers in france. as young as eighteen months are being picky just like animals babies of it months have been left isolated in groups and last night the former head of u.s. immigration and customs enforcement said he expects hundreds of these children never to be reunited with their peers most in the system orphaned by the u.s. government is the prime minister still intending to rule out the red carpet for donald trump he's referring to the effects of united states policies captured on tape that have caused outrage all around the world c.b.s. news has not been able to independently confirm the authenticity of this recording

which is mostly in spanish but here is a portion. of. people who. juries a may appear to say that she would lecture trump on human rights when he's welcome to britain and presumably lecture him about not meeting law to be a putin before the next nato summit we have a long and special and long enduring relationship longstanding relationship with the united states and i think it is right that will be embraced of issues of obvious president trump a range of issues about our shared interests and i think it's important to welcome every make sure that when we see the president of the united states here in the united kingdom we're able to have those discussions that means that when we

disagree with what they're doing we say so the scottish virtuous leader in westminster was not convinced and brought up may's own hostile environment strategy i have to see that as a disappointing answer. we should all. we should be unreservedly condemning the actions of donald trump and i asked the prime minister to do that it's one of course on the issue of immigration for the us administration colds or as you know towards policy the prime minister calls it a hostile environment may disassociated herself from trump's hostile environment and again raise the importance of military cooperation with a nation now compared in reference to nazi germany by holocaust survivors albeit before trump signed an executive order saving the children and parents could be detained together arguably like in britain trump is due to visit britain next month according to a recording that is now merged trump may will soon be making a full on state visit here next year after breaks it joining me now from new jersey

is award winning rolling stone writer and author of insane clown president matt taibbi matt thanks for coming back on the show jeremy corbin labor leader here saying that maybe trump shouldn't be delayed his visit to britain some people might say his labor colleagues argued we shouldn't be criticizing trump given child attention policies on the labor government here you though if found glaring hypocrisy in the criticism of trump's policies over there obviously. posted a chance policy decision to separate the border is barbaric and image that emerged from the scandal deservedly. lower barish our petition around the world probably to a degree similar to the great scandal. but. to be frank and i'm speaking as somebody carter. immigration and specifically the issue of our

policy separate. and not true trump here this is really nothing new america and it's not restricted to our treatment of immigrants people coming over the border we have a terrible. problem in our inner cities with some thirty families of people who are on public assistance and of course we did this with our sort of archipelago of quite high legal prisons involving war on terror suspects around or else. there's been a lot of people who are sort of discovering the immigration issue is the through it's no but it's not it you don't see form a cia both michael hayden being from supposes to auschwitz showing the fullness cia boss is a great champion of human rights that i think is the worst one of all for me michael hayden the former cia n.s.a. director he tweets out this week a picture of auschwitz. just with a stark. caption other governments separated families and children michael hayden

is basically the architect of this indefinite detention policy. looming in the background of the abu ghraib scandal we've been scooping up people from around the world in a completely extralegal process of putting them in places like on holiday or worse her fifteen years now and i hate was actually one of the people who was the first public spokes people to talk about how detention was two to meddlesome for them it was too much trouble so we were just killing people instead you actually said that out loud so this guy posing as a human rights champion is just unbelievable to me between the between the hard sites and try to se nation campaign i don't know how you could be credible on that front yeah the exact quote i think you tweeted we take another opinion we killed

them i don't morely oppose this ok well britain now probably the united states to now centering on milan ia trump's dress and levis it will jackets when she visited the border anything we should be conscious. being distracted from when the media talks about the drums tweet about the jacket i think what people have to understand about donald trump is that. constant focus on everything that he does and it's constant it's you know as her partner i can speak to the fact that it's very difficult to even get a story. and i'm not into print or in front of people's eyeballs the doesn't have a trump angle to it and so all everybody's focused on trump other stuff happens and you know this week we saw something extraordinary in america that nobody paid attention to we had this incredibly huge hike in the american military budget it went up to seven hundred sixty billion dollars which is over eighty

billion dollars increase just in one year and over a two year period it's going to be over one hundred sixty billion dollars so that's more than basically the entire size of the chinese and or russian military budget is just the increase and the would get. in the next nine countries combined there were a few votes when the this week the backing of the u.k. backed the war in yemen that vote happened no real coverage of that what happened there was there was an attempt to put an end to attach and then the to that defense bill which would have prevented the united states being involved directly in the saudi coalition bombing of yemen. it would have made it impossible for u.s. military aircraft to help you all the bombers headed seek to yemen because of the unusual procedural rules of the senate. basically the chair of the armed

services committee who's filling in for john mccain james inhofe of oklahoma he was able to just kill that amendment so a lot of amendments that probably would have passed it got. up to a vote. to get to the floor and that was one of them so when you comes to unanimity democrats and republicans very much all united well we see the blood design and ship over the migrant issue it's a point of emphasis for me the president crazies that it's the areas of consensus that you really have to look at when you're talking about american politics and there are lots of. financial get your regulation that's one survey on it says one assassination has forms continual expansion of the military budget is this issue number one and it's it goes up and up and up and nobody ever spots about it i remember personally being at the passage of the defense appropriations bill and i

was the only reporter in the senate press gallery nobody covers this stuff i mean it under seven hundred or or six hundred billion dollars go out the door and the press when you look at it and i think this is an important thing to understand while we do have a very very important difference between republicans and democrats is the areas of consensus that are that are also really scary and you have to tensions you know you mentioned drone assassination i thought obama was the king of the drone the assassins of trump is not as bad as the one where is. he actually is he actually is as bad it's actually worse as a matter of fact the statistics show. that the program massively accelerated under obama if you look at most reports still tell you that obama. probably bombed about ten times as many people as shortstop bush and most mystics now say that trump is bombing at a rate of which is about eight times dad of obama so trumps now bombing at

a rate of about eight times that of bush. but both administrations were incredibly complicit not only in the quantity of the bombings but. continual expansion of the legal infrastructure underpinning these programs there's an important case going on right now that. britain based nonprofit called reprieve is that it isn't all contesting here in the united states that would prevent the united states from assassinating american citizens without legal review. just finally then what do you think the term administration wants to get out of coming to britain there is some rumors of him meeting putin around the time of the nato summit and a lot of criticism here of his views on climate change the iran deal what do you think he'll see is a victory i think from using any. opportunity to be

received by a foreign leader and not. not the noun sed as a victory you know he expects a parade he expects a lot of pomp and circumstance wherever he goes but it you know trump has a natural. connection to the british political situation the bracks it. was very much in tune with what happened here in the united states. in the movement you know i'll try out big demonstrations here though planned of course there will be there will be demonstrations or or you won't you know you selective ignores criticism all the time but you know he wants to receive would you to mars as much. if he perceives the demonstrations are particularly harsh you know that that might dissuade him from. one could hope for that

situation be thank you and that's it for the show we're back on monday as prince william becomes the first royal to make an official visit to illegally occupy palestine jilin keep in touch with us last i will be there with you and when they won the bid to the day the world health organization estimated two hundred thousand cases of cholera in yemen which continues to be bombed by british warplanes. business is solid and can turn. we've all just moved the employee says you can go three families or you need. a co money city with no coal mines left. the jobs are gone all the coal miners are said that's. love to see these people the survivors of disappearing before

their eyes. i remember thinking when i was younger that is sydney thing ever happened to the coal mines here and that it would become a ghost town but i never thought in a million years i would see that and it's happening it's happened. it was. let me get. a. good i'm good at not only made. me on.

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