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exist central banks are an endangered species. berry ten of the two thousand eight hundred people world cup has been action packed with goals go laura and a late twisted during saturday evenings final game in sochi. nothern is the second anniversary of the u.k.'s present referendum sees tens of thousands march on parliament demanding a vote on any exit deal with the e.u. . and an emotionally charged image on the latest time magazine cover seen as a damning indictment of trump's immigration policy is discovered to be misleading. and more world cup action for you plus news from around the globe at r.t. dot com next go on our to international going underground talks immigration and brags and while in the u.k. and ireland get ready for sputnik with george galloway.
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action or times you were going underground two years to the day the people of britain voted to leave the european union coming up on the show we asked former secretary of state for all that island the u.k. minister for europe lord hain with the tourism is handling of bricks it means the end of the government and his attention turns from cage children. jackets what is the world to being distracted from during president drums storms we speak to award winning rolling stones. don't listen more coming up in today's going underground but first england place panama to morrow at nizhni novgorod as part of russia twenty eighteen panama's recent history has been dominated by us back to take hers and their washington fun to death squads there with washington's narco traffic a man well noriega got to independent at least he was overthrown explains the. the
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problem was that the thug was getting a little too independent you know thugs are fine i mean doesn't matter where there's a minor one what are your major one like so then hussein a matter hitler who also has a word written on there fine you know as long as they follow orders. but if they become independent they become as bad as priests who were organizing bible study groups then their bed and you've got to get rid of it while panama was a washington back narco state used to kill sandinistas in nicaragua it's relation to england which it plays against to morrow is something a little different when turned out of a banking bombshell causing shock waves around the world the so-called panama papers believed to be the biggest data leak in history or exposing out some of the world's wealthiest and most powerful people i'll cut short their american n.b.c. because nothing was proved against our british prime minister put to raise him a on the path to number ten all the u.k. they believe the german court and it's a panama meant the end of public trust in david cameron i suggest mr speaker the
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prime minister is records particularly over the past week show the public no longer has the trust in him to deal with these matters does he realize why people are so angry. does he realize to members opposite realised why people are so angry if n.b.c. link to euro news had no time for jeremy corbin sliming tax dodging india liberalism the england panama match tomorrow may at least provide some welcome public destruction for the u.k. government joining me now in a week of august kayleigh seven u.k. plans for breakfast which some believe was catalyzed by neo liberalism and the immigration debate is britain's former europe minister lord hain today on the two year anniversary of the vote to leave the e.u. well then things were going back on quite another week in breaks it terms how much of a problem that she's lost seven to minister in eight months kind of bad strategically . to lose a international trade minister this week greg hands obviously
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a blow because trade minister is supposed to negotiate the new trade deal that will follow briggs it is said to be one down in that task is clearly a problem but i think i'm right in saying he resigned over heathrow that has to go ahead with a third runway decision i happen to think it's absolutely right for london and for the whole of the u.k. but i think we're going to see increasing problems for tourism a government not just of of this kind and they beat others of course the home secretary resigning a few months ago. over a immigration issue but the fact that they've not really come clean because they're divided in themselves as to what they're going to do a break that we know that at least we're on course following the referendum result for britain to leave the european union i think hugely damaging and disastrously
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but that was the referendum results but nobody knows yet and to raise a mate isn't able to say. because our government is divided on this what our relationship with the biggest trading market that britain has by far heartfelt trade goods cars and so on and services and services like the city of london is with the the european union countries it's the biggest richest trading block in the world by a long way and the idea that we're going to get a better deal with or without the international trade secretary to replace this seamless frictionless arrangements that we have with the european union is i think just moved i don't think it's going to happen you're a former cabinet minister what do you think it's like in that cabinet room when in the maze case before much answer the exchequer now has it it's the local london newspaper the evening standard and that it on the day of the debate over one of
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those amendments printed an article about speculation that the fact the pound was sliding was due to the expectation in the city the teresa mayes premiership was finished well she's survived so far almost a crisis a week and the fact that the party is so divided on it that's just fact i'm not making that point as a labor politician because they are being invited to well it we've got divisions in europe as well unfortunately but the fact that a party is so divided between the really dogmatic briggs it is the jacob reese mobs the liam fox's the david davis' and the rest. and those who want a sensible deal out of this including if not exactly the same as the single market in the customs union then so much the same that you might as well be in them in order to protect our economy our jobs are not trade they just divided down the middle and that's why she survived it because they called agree on who would replace us or my my bet is she probably will survive until the real crunch comes
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you're saying the stakes are so high f. course it's predictable the city of london trying to protect this. some would argue the globalization agenda would be against what is happening a report this week twenty six trillion a derivative contracts will now not be written in time for any hard date for brics it is an honorable position for a prime minister to be when she's negotiating knowing how divided things are rather than realizing that we need a government that understands how high the stakes are well look i think she's acting in an honorable way from her point of view i don't think there's a question of dishonor attached storage of a man but she's trying to do something that is not possible. she's trying to get all the benefits for britain of being in the european club without any of the obligations now we have a draft conclusion for next week's e.u. summit suggesting the european council is urging preparations for no deal
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presumably in cabinet people are saying this is all just hard talk because that's a good negotiating position from brussels point of view it's not real there is a way through this obviously in a negotiation people lost striking public positions from in order to start from a stronger position as they say is increasingly harder line yes but what i think i don't not surprised by this and michel barnier is not behaving in a and a number pleasant fashion or a an arrogant fashion not giving us access to e.u. law enforcement databases and whatnot is european arrest warrant what he's saying is if you're going to enjoy that essential cooperation to catch criminals that we want brought back from wherever it is in the rest of the european union to britain then we've got to buy by the laws of the european union which we do now through the european court of justice whereas what teresa mayes government is saying is no we don't want to have anything to do with the european court of justice give us an
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insight now into your lead views on brics if he's always been aligned throughout his political career with tony benn's pro bricks it views that brussels was a great dream a great idea but actually in the end destroyed itself in bureaucracy and corporate lobby germy position has been essentially summarized that the european union is a capitalist club which it is just like britain is and pretty well every other part of the world is sadly from the average chinese government to have to use the chinese government has got a kind of state capitalism that they call communism but is really nothing of the coin and therefore he's instinctively antagonistic to now my argument with those who share his view is of course the european union is that as a capitalist club like pretty well every country in the world the point is you change it by being within its. just like you change britain not biopsying old apollo and the logic of that position is we don't stand as a labor party for policy because it's part of
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a couple's institution and that it in a crude summary is his position i think that's wrong it's not shared by other socialists across the european union who want us to stay it's not shared by the trade union movement which wants us to remain within the single market and the customs union is corbin and france well it does have to start again yes he does not the single markets in the single market remember we are an eighty percent services economy we don't make enough things anymore in the traditional sense but we're an eighty percent services economy and we're very successful at it you can't get free access for all services whether it's by t. or whether it's financial services unless you are in the single markets or unless you have exactly the same relations and relationship with the existing single market as you have now it is well if you're going to have the same relationship with it and the same relationship within the customs union then you come back to my
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point you have to be the rules of it. in the end is it actually going to come down to island island talking more fiercely this week saying anything without agreement over the border means no deal whatsoever it would be in my waves generated i've always thought as a former secretary of state for northern ireland former cabinet minister for an older model and on the go shared under tony blair the settlement that brought in paisley and martin mcguinness into power in two thousand and seven to rule together successfully i've always thought the irish border is the achilles heel of the dogmatic brigs that position the jacob reese more i didn't you tell david cameron at the time when he called or at the end of that actually i was out there during the referendum and i did media stuff saying exactly that and in order to keep a completely open border an invisible border as you have now which is crucial to the peace process why because for republicans for those who believe ireland should
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be reunited this is it historically once was for them they have been abandoned their own struggle at least the vast majority and their wars they source against britain because the prospect of a united ireland through the good friday process by a referendum rather than by the bullets in the bottom is now available they just have to persuade the majority of the people in the island to support them if there was a demand for a referendum but it is also of crucial importance to them and to the irish government and to everybody on the island of ireland that that border remains as invisible as it is now you call do that by no deal which is why the irish government is absolutely right because if you no deal then you're left with will trade organization rules and that is the external customs fronts here of the european union the only one we have directly connected to as
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a united kingdom through that through northern ireland and that has to be done. it has to be it has to be controlled to stop the rules of the european union being broken and chinese material coming through the u.k. and into the european union through the back door and that kind of thing but fundamentally you'll remain there pro-capitalist position as it were i'm not pro-capitalist on a social capital club but i'm sure they should they say you do recognize that all these myriad phenomena that we see in italy and in greece they are all reflections from the twenty eight crash solving things from we did institutions is not seen is a method well well look there's two issues here the first is globalization in the way it's worked and particularly the way the crash the great financial crash happened which cost us all as taxpayers billions and billions of pounds in the bank has got away pretty well scot free it was absolutely outrageous that was
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a product of a particular neoliberal economic system which i'm opposed to and which has to be reformed if we're going to get political stability in the world but that's a different issue from saying that in this particular situation of britain withdrawing from the european union and yes i was a remain the choice is you either do this in a sensible way what i call a one nation way remember the referendum result split the country down the middle split families down the middle. streets and neighbors down middle and friends down the middle it was fifty two forty eight i'm not disputing the results of the democratic verdict which has to be respected but the sensible way to do it would be to stay in the single market in the europe and the customs union and exit the european union you could do that norway's outside the european union but in this in the single market turkey is outside the european union but in the customs union britain could strike a unique deal but it's only the right wing hard right very very extreme
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capitalists like the j.p. . morgans and the liam fox as in the david davis is on the rest that are preventing that happening in holding their prime minister and the country to ransom that's what i object to thank you after the break paul chrissie and donald trump is weapons of mass destruction with rolling stones matt taibbi as britain's prepares for a controversial visit from the so-called leader of the free world well this is more in part two of going underground. so what we've got to do is identify the threats that we have it's crazy
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confrontation let it be an arms race off and spearing dramatic development the only really i'm going to resist i don't see how that strategy will be successful very critical time time to sit down and talk. welcome back you gave political leaders dres a may and jeremy corbin traded statistics and new liberal taxation accusations of this week's prime minister's questions over the public health care crisis but the leader of the s.n.p. and westminster had other things on his mind many of us in this house will be aware of the deeply distressing audio and images of children separated from their peers in u.s. detention centers infants as young as eighteen months are being picky just like animals babies of it months have been left isolated in groups and last night
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the former head of u.s. immigration and customs enforcement said he expects hundreds of these children never to be reunited with their peers most in the system orphaned by the u.s. government is the prime minister still intending to rule out the red carpet for donald trump he's referring to the effect of united states policies captured on tape that have caused outrage all around the world c.b.s. news has not been able to independently confirm the authenticity of this recording which is mostly in spanish but here is a portion. of. people who.
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jurys i'm a appeared to say that she would lecture trump on human rights when he's welcome to britain and presumably lecture him about not meeting law to be a putin before the next nato summit we have a long and special and long enduring relationship longstanding relationship with the united states and i think it is right that will be embraced issues of obvious gusen of the president trying a range of issues about our shared interests and i think it's important to welcome the three make sure that when we see the president of the united states here in the united kingdom we are able to have those discussions that means that when we disagree with what they're doing we say so the scottish nationalist leader in westminster was not convinced and brought up may's own hostile environment strategy i have to see that as a disappointing answer for why. we should all we should also be unreservedly condemning the actions of the north from there and i asked the prime
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minister to do that but of course on the issue of immigration for the us administration calls it as you know taught and policy the prime minister calls it a hostile environment may disassociated herself from trump's hostile environment and again raise the importance of military cooperation with a nation now compared in reference to nazi germany by holocaust survivors albeit before trump signed an executive order saving the children and parents could be detained together arguably like in britain trump is due to visit britain next month and according to a recording that is now emerged drug may will soon be making a full on state visit here next year after breck's it joining me now from new jersey is award winning rolling stone writer and author of insane clown president matt taibbi matt thanks for coming back on the show jeremy corbin labor leader here saying that maybe trump should be delayed his visit to britain some people might say his leg. mccauley shouldn't be criticizing him given detention policies of the
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labor government is it that you do if found glaring hypocrisy in the criticism of trump's policies over the obviously. opposed to chance policy is the decision to separate families at the border it is barbaric and the images that have emerged from the scandal are to certainly. lowered america's reputation around the world probably to a degree similar to the grave scandal. but. to be frank and i'm speaking as somebody who cover. immigration and specifically cover the issue of our policies separating families. and the tree trunk hears this is really nothing new in america and it's not even restricted to our treatment of immigrants and people coming over the border we have a terrible problem in our inner cities with suffered if you have ways of people who are on public assistance and of course we did this with our sort of archipelago
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of quite high legal prisons involving war on terror suspects around are all so. there's been a lot of people who are sort of discovering the immigration issue is the through it's no but it's not it you don't see former cia boats michael hayden being from supposes to auschwitz showing how the fullness cia boss is a great champion of human rights that i think is the worst one of all for me michael hayden the former cia n.s.a. director he tweets out this week a picture of auschwitz. just with a stark. caption other governments separated families and children michael hayden is basically the architect of this indefinite detention policy. looming in the background of the abu ghraib scandal we've been scooping up people from around the world. completely extralegal process of putting them in places like once on while
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they are worse for her fifteen years now and i hate was actually one of the people who was the first public spokes people to talk about how even detention was to two meddlesome for them it was too much trouble so we were just killing people instead you actually said that out loud so this guy posing as a human rights champion is just unbelievable to me between the between the hard sites on the metro to south nation campaign i don't know how you can credible on that front yeah the exact quote i think you tweeted we take another opinion we killed them i don't morely oppose this ok well britain now probably the united states to now centering on milan ia trump's dress and that was it or jackets when she visited the border anything we should be conscious of being distracted from when the media talks about germs tweet about the jacket i think what people have to
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understand about donald trump is that. constant focus on everything that she does and it's constant it's you know i heard her i can speak to the fact that it's very difficult to even get a story. and i'm not in the print or in front of people's i've also doesn't have a trump angle to it and so all everybody's focused on trough other stuff happens and you know this week we saw something extraordinary in america that nobody paid attention to we had this incredibly huge hike in the american military budget it went up to seven hundred sixty billion dollars which is over eighty billion dollars increase just one year and over to your period it's going to be over one hundred sixty billion dollars so that's more than basically the entire size of the chinese and or russian military budget is just the increase and. no it . is a mix nine countries combined there were
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a few votes when the this week the backing of the u.k. backed the war in yemen that vote happened no real coverage of that what happened well there was a there was an attempt to put an end to attach and then the to that defense bill which would have prevented the united states being involved directly in the saudi coalition bombing of yemen. it would have made it impossible for u.s. military aircraft to help you all the bombers had it's easy to yemen but because of the unusual procedural rules of the senate. basically the chair of the armed services committee who's showing it for john mccain and james inhofe of oklahoma he was able to just kill that i met so a lot of amendments that probably would have passed it gone to to a vote to get to the floor and that was one of them so when you comes to unanimity
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democrats and republicans very much all united while we see the blood design and ship over the migrant issue it's a point of emphasis for me that the president crazies that it's the areas of consensus that you really have to look at when you're talking about american politics and there are lots of. regulation in this one survey don't says one assassination has forms but continual expansion of the military budget is this issue number one and it's it goes up and up and up and nobody ever squawks about it i remember personally being at the passage of the defense appropriations bill and i was the only reporter in the senate press gallery nobody covers this stuff i mean it under seven hundred or or six hundred billion dollars go out the door and the press when you look at it and i think this is an important thing to understand while we do have very very important difference between republicans and democrats is the. areas of consensus that are that are also really scary and tensions yeah
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you mentioned drone assassination i thought obama was the king of the drone the assassins of trump is not as bad as whatever is it yeah actually it is he actually is as bad it's actually worse as a matter of fact the statistics show. that the program massively accelerated under obama if you look at most reports still tell you that obama. probably bombed about ten times as many people as shortstop bush and most up to six now say that trump is bombing at a rate of which is about eight times dad of obama so trumps now bombing at a rate of about eight times that of bush. but both administrations were incredibly complicit not only in the quantity of the bombings but the continual expansion of the legal infrastructure underpinning these programs there's an important case
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going on right now that. britain based nonprofit called reprieve is that it isn't all contesting here in the united states that would prevent the united states from assassinating american citizens without legal or if you. just finally then what do you think the term administration wants to get out of coming to britain there is some rumors of him meeting putin around the time of the nato summit and a lot of criticism here of his views on climate change the iran deal what do you think he'll see as a victory i think trump views any. opportunity to be received by a foreign leader and not. not the noun sed as a victory you know he expects a parade he expects a lot of pomp and circumstance wherever he goes but it you know trump has a natural. connection to the british political situation
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the bracks it. was very much in tune with what happened here and. in the movement little i'll try out big demonstrations here though planned of course there will be there will be demonstrations tell stephen or or you won't you know you selectively ignore his criticism all the time but you know he wants to receive would you to mars as much toss a ball. if he perceives that the demonstrations are particularly harsh you know that might dissuade him from becoming. one can hope for that situation be thank you and that's it for the show about on monday as prince william becomes the first royal to make an official visit to illegally occupy palestine jilin keep in touch with us last i will be there will see on monday one the year to the day the world health organization estimated two hundred thousand cases of cholera in yemen which continues to be bombed by british warplanes.
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you know world of big partisan lives and conspiracies it's time to wake up to dig deeper to hit the stories that mainstream media refuses to tell more than ever we need to be smarter we need to stop slamming the door on the bath and shouting past each other it's time for critical thinking it's time to fight for the middle for the truth the time is now for watching closely watching the hawks.
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nineteen seventy eight. to ninety nine and nine i said better execution. i perform sixty the next seventeen years. for that recommend the death penalty engineering the judge that they had to perform the execution i think that they will. enlighten difference noyon giving a definite it will.

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