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so i can say well i was stopping the next stopping the next nazi so it leads to a very dangerous place and it's hard to walk back from it mark indiaman for our viewers please explain to them what happened not years after hitler came to power but in a matter of weeks ok it's you know within a three hour think six weeks he could consolidate the full power in germany and what did that mean you know he cancelled no trade unions absolutely tickled part of the press is completely suppressed distinguished after the arsenal right stock basically all arriving political forces were removed from the scene but it's existed formally there was this dissents to. start which means a lot for the protection of the state and the nation which basically made it impossible to impeach him you wait when people now are talking about elections in november after nine hundred thirty three it makes no sense to talk about elections
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hitler was not impeached even in one thousand nine hundred fifty four nineteen forty five hundred twenty was basically a losing the war that he started so if there is any parallel it's not between he two and trump if there are any people in europe who still adore him or his allies then look at the ukrainian government they they passed a law recently which makes it illegal to criticize the ukrainian nationalist group such as that ukrainian insurgent i mean we can elevate themselves to the not just in one thousand nine hundred you won in one thousand forty four in large where some of them yes as a legion force us to this are still not still they started to be revealed after a lot to stop to be a part of the soviet union in one thousand nine hundred one and that continues but it continued under clinton it continued under obama the thing is for me mark it it's it tells me this is a among. it. looks already mentioned it's just it's an extreme form of virtuous
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signalling ok i mean because it's not about arguments it's not about a debate it's about your moral standing in society which by the very diffuse definition of using these terms is zero you know very hypocritical definition of moral standing in society what we're seeing is the absolute polarization of american politics between the liberals and particularly the supporters of the current president and the united states and i have this absurd rhetoric of calling someone not seize an equal footing trumps administration you don't have to like him i don't like a great deal particularly domestically of what what the man is doing but this completely devalues the actual losses of the six million plus jews that
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died in the holocaust the twenty to thirty million soviet citizens that died in the death toll in serbia the death of millions as well all across eastern europe it completely devalues and deal with. let me go back to alice in cyberspace mark a spot on it trivializes what fascism and what hitler's third reich did in the twentieth century the use of this rhetoric by the left trivializes one of the most . treacherous in dangerous and and least humane time in human history alex yeah but words have they start to lose their meaning because they just said so often it's so frivolously that there's no meaning behind it and a lot of the people don't understand that. splendid understand the history behind the word but they're just using it to stir up so much anger and so much hate and so much division that. going to lead to
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a very very bad place i mean peter you had you had the home secretary couldn't eat at a mexican restaurant the other day nielsen shame tear out sarah huckabee sanders at a restaurant the other day and they wouldn't serve her so i mean it's getting to the point of mass hysteria you know. i worry is that someone's going to take it a step further yes and we're going to see violence we already saw it with congressman when he was on a baseball pitch we had someone come out and use violence and thank god he survived . but this is creating it's normalizing hysteria is what it's doing well if we look at the psychological roots of this it is basically avoidance over it as michael brown i think just the great american think of the days you put in his article but basically people seen so many contradictions like. evil incarnate but we should not criticize those early school provision and finance
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them like to work in saudi arabia in afghanistan a bomber declare the war. he declared war on a few years ago but we have to send troops to afghanistan basically under obama and under george bush jr torture was legitimate i spend way telling people don't don't how do you avoid it how do you stop thinking about it well we are facing fascists you know russians are born being i sill and other terrorists but russians are bad guys because putin is so authoritarian right now. you know we have the head of the cia that has a track record of committing acts of torture. against the interests of people as you saw that actually this is normalizing everything is it's acceptable it's already been and where we're going with that normalizing you could be preparing society for some kind of shock where the politically impossible suddenly be.
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somebody will say that you know a deal is already said it before it can't be said again in this world in the world today there are is really one clear example of fascism band there right fascism resurgent and ukraine and some what you could say and some of the baltic states where people literally get into waffen s.s. uniforms and celebrate their ancestors collaboration josh cohen writing for the right here if we can get the camera on me because it's a good article to read the title i don't is ukraine's got a real problem with far right violence parentheses and no r.p. didn't write this headline yes josh r.t. did not write this headline because reported it four years ago when it was just just cool and he he must have been living under a rock for years now he's reporting about. these ultra nationalist far right code for bad or right fascist militias funded supported and sent against their own
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citizens via the putsch regime that the west back to new korean days off i adore are the right sector the new national journal geno works like our parallel police force and c fourteen which stands for the fourteen words which even have a seventeen thousand dollars from the ukrainian putsch regime for kids camps and he reports that there are these are launching attacks on roma camps anti-fascist demonstrations city council meetings and amnesty international event art exhibitions l.g.b. t. events international environmental activists and the women's day march not these just so you know western media these people that you were backing in ukraine at least the vanguard of of the new government that helped brought it to power and keep it there those are actual honest to god real fascists. you
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know i already brought up the term virtue virtuously milling i mean this whole again i think you put it really well where however you want to call on the immigration debate but you know if you have the picture of time that the cover of time magazine trump without a child i mean on so many levels that cover of is fictitious it's a throng have to write it's fake news ok and particularly when trump found himself squeezed he caved whatever word you want to use. but he inherited a problem and he's still being blamed for it ok even when he took action go ahead oh yeah it was completely fake i mean the whole story was fake. the whole hysteria about the little girl nothing of about it was was even close to her getting taken away snatched from the arms for mother but i mean there's no need to go into detail the whole thing was fake news and that's why people are calling c.n.n. and time and all these outlets fake news because they really are reporting and
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they're fabricating fake news but i also want to get to the point that the whole neo nazi white supremacist thing is not only confined to the us the other day we saw i hate to bring iraq hillary clinton was a trinity college in dublin and she was talking about how russian president vladimir putin is trying to drive nato and the e.u. away from the arms of the us and he's the leader of the white supremacist xeno phobia movement so you can see this whole idea of everybody's a fascist except us neo liberals except us globalist except us liberal leftist is they're trying to spread it past the u.s. and it's and it's a term that's that's now becoming internationalized you know the absolute irony of that is the u.s. is preferred leader for russia alexei of all day is the actually alter net still is and already is insane or a scene over at the gym in here gentlemen we have to go to a short break and after that short break we'll continue our discussion on some real news stay with us.
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in the heart of the swiss alps this is a place probably more secretive than the pentagon more mysterious than the cia and better guarded than for knox swiss customs are here permanently all the site is controlled by them and they impose the opening times. opposite it is from is all plus the procedures in place of the strictest in all europe masterpieces by artists like pecan so and modigliani i can't boards and sold inside this warehouse that's where the report comes in it covers up deals which are naturally discreet commercially discreet step but also discreet because they concern fraud. some of those paintings are linked to dark secrets nobody knows how many of these secrets a kept inside the geneva freeport system you'll never obtain an inventory of all
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welcome back across the uk where all things considered i'm peter lavelle to remind you we're discussing some real news. ok let me go to deal with here we talked a little bit about this last week since then. there's a meeting between putin and trump it's getting some traction right now bolton is setting up the background. he's not i don't think is a person that is particularly keen on it but maybe pompei you know in trying to go in or pushing him. i am not particularly convinced that it's a good idea for them to have one on one at this point what are your thoughts well i
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just don't think they can produce substantial results simply because of the pressure we share a trump is i don't know you know and pressure from the congress pressure from the media but what made me laugh is the reaction of the so-called liberals in the united states they're afraid of this meeting just let me call it an apple bolt from the water and of course get traded for another we even televise doff fest this time between trump and putin. and what is she afraid of she's afraid of a trade off between them and the trade off is going to be if we called up obama we stop holding military exercises in europe in exchange for while russia to keep crimea which is why i give your something and then i give you something. it's just going to create a volcano these people are afraid you know it reminded me all of ronald reagan being afraid of going to go fly it reminds me of the same thing they said about the
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north koreans just bring peace to the korean peninsula. meet it's if you read the you get the impression that they think that ukraine is sort of personal position that it's being bargained away sheered all that nationalism is exactly what. in two thousand and fourteen the new will if if a new one is praising the support of people at what you can only come into n.l.p. boman ukraine and nationalism is that what has happened is since two thousand and fourteen there is a nationalism there but in the nation ok look how do you follow. a summit a one on one because it seems to me that even though russia gate is winding down it's really turning into f.b.i. gate and d.o.j. gate more than anything else but we have seen that the media is going to let this go and in light of what we said in the first part of the program it's going to be more demonization i think they should meet if they can have some substance i don't like these kind of meetings without substance yeah i are afraid that until trump
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gets control of his own foreign policy and there is some kind of and whatever weight to this which with the russia gate conspiracy that's going on that he doesn't really have anything that he can offer russia it's not in russia's interest to have this summit. a western journalist just tweeted this week the former chinese official diplomat he met with today said every country thinks america has gone crazy we benefit by doing nothing other than appearing sane and i think that's russia's best strategy at this point just sit back now there are some cards to this there is a ticking we have a timer ticking towards the end of the intermediate range nuclear forces in the new start treaty right and the beginning of this new arms race the longer these issues go on addressed and hopefully some new treaties are fashioned the worse god forbid
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that they aren't renewed or or recreated in some fashion but i don't think that trump can actually bring anything to the table when his own government his own . someways pickers in his own administration are still in revolt at the idea that he might bring a some type of transactional diplomatic relation with russia and in an attempt to improve relations with the world's only other nuclear power that could you know conceivably and the united states in a nuclear over more than a good alex kristof or a in cyprus what is your take on a possible a summit meeting mark is get done a pretty good job of giving them the pros and cons right there i just think that we it would be much better to have the second i.g. report come out on this russian gate fiasco fantasy and then he would probably have
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a little bit more leverage because after two years there's been no evidence and i don't think there's going to be any that with that that's a cloud that needs to leave the scene before i think there would be any kind of meaningful summit what do you think alex in cyprus i definitely think the role russia pollution thing has without a doubt morphed into the microscope and the focus being on the f.b.i. and the d.o.j. that that goes without question but saying that i think if it does take a summit with putin then you're going to just be feeding the sharks and it's just going to shift the focus right back to to the whole trump russia collusion narrative even though there is no evidence the media will what will push that story but i also want to say one very quick thing which is i don't want to bet against trump's political instincts sometimes he does crazy stuff and it turns out in his favor you know so i mean maybe you know something we don't know you to do words right out of my mouth exactly i was going about this i say that you know he's just he will surprise us here mark i if i were him i wouldn't want to do it before the
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two thousand and eighteen midterm elections that you know could you know result in power change in the house if not the senate. by. i don't know may decide to roll the dice and take you know one of the things that i find really interesting as a tangent to all of this here is that going back to our demonisation conversation that we were having it there is growing evidence that the more trump is demonized the more his base. can look past his blemish i got the numbers for that on you go here. just came out ninety percent of republicans now have an approval or approve of the performance of donald trump which is the highest of any republican it isn't or are going to pull the number because when he was elected it wasn't even close to that the polarization the other side of that is only fifteen percent of democrats approve of his performance which is
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a likewise it's the polarization of american politics and i'll express afford it reflect upon that because you've been looking at these kinds of things that i mean he has his base are going to stand by him irrespective of his blemishes and there are many ok but the but they know he's a known quantity than them ok go ahead yeah yeah because the democrats and much of the establishment left the media they demonize his base i mean just the other day there was a pundit on morning show who said that anyone that has voted for trump should also consider themselves say you know for a white supremacist so i mean they don't accomplish anything by team a nice thing not only trump but they demonize his base as well and so his base is also just saying you know what if you guys are going to call us that all day we're going to support this man and we're going to stand behind that there's no talk of policy you know the interplay interesting thing is gentlemen i'll go to mark next year the most interesting thing that happened during the two thousand and sixteen presidential election is not meeting with russians it wasn't leaked e-mails it was
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one sentence coming from hillary clinton deplorable zx this is what it is being amplified to the nth degree right now and she said it and she had to repeat the democrats are paying for it you have those numbers i give you that's not just his base this is the mainstream of the republican party who were not necessarily happy about his election and many searches rallying around them and i would guess no small number of independents as well and this is a result of russia gate. and fall outrage fatigue cannot pass yeah you may hear what i mean. when i say sion doesn't walk nationally i mean khomeini supporters did president also have before two thousand and one i want to cite syria very few you know he was lethal no ok younger man i love them all were just but after the united states and they you have been demonized in him for several years he has a radical op now and these people are completely impervious to do that on facebook
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they have there's nothing assad gene so the curse is the end of that exactly nobody saw it go curse kim jong il and suddenly an international diplomatic rock star and i'm going to say i said i was a sister and i and if it works out that actually why shouldn't it what can do and i think you can see i also want to go q.b. probably for the segment here. how many people that take at the top of the f.b.i. to go down for the liberals to realize something is going wrong ok i mean how many people are gone. markable it was it was horowitz his testimony was was scathing it was stunning i mean what we learned is it's not just about lisa page and peter struck there was a whole team of f.b.i. agents that were there committee they were there were so anti trump pro thaler e it was astonishing and all of this is now coming out in the open it's the pure definition of a boomerang they pushed to russia trumped collusion thing and what they ended up
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doing is they ended up destroying the reputation of the d.o.j. and the f.b.i. the thing is i watched torah which is a testimony and you know i think even he had to begrudgingly said his body language it is told in all that is that he was actually agree with all of the criticism and now with the his outcome of the report it just seemed very mild but if you get into the details he agreed and every step of the way the thing is mark that i find interesting is that. we're going to come across these cast of characters one more time because the i.g. still has its russia gate investigation peter struck we're not we haven't heard the last of this guy yeah i think we will all see it certainly the republicans in the congress and elsewhere really need to pursue this they need to launch legal for study that liberals do it is almost the they took the trump taking children away
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from their parents demon and ignored the i.g. report almost completely well i mean. let's look at all of these russian conclusion the only person in jail right now is paul minor forthright and what do i read about poll my default in the new york times poll. to sign an agreement with the european union that would link that country closer to the west and what for the americans to support ukraine smashed ok but this is something that whole lot of what should people who have a crush on me because it's not a story of their. crews not actually it's not actually in jail he's in pretrial the only thing he's there for is tax avoidance for nothing you know where the rights are not of the alleged not only doing it but if there is one thing that can make you know that this poll want to force in pretrial detention anything that. you know this is the right way we're going to find out if with with flynn and with metaphor
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if the f.b.i. changed records ok they're what they're called trio to say ok we don't find out if that happened here but it's going to be a very interesting week germany is just amazing that a person is basically put in pretrial detention for doing something very broad western you know this is something the united states and the you want it doing chief well you know i mean i think it's you know over the internet so i think it's a little bit more complicated than that there are accusations of metaphor was. tampering and i think this is ok i mean if you're a lobbyist like. amanda ford and the others in washington d.c. you don't have the cleanest hands oh yes a sleaze bike but i guess we all right gentlemen gentlemen can actually i jump in here but many thanks to my guest here in moscow and in cyprus this is the end of our broadcast segments stay with us for the extended version on our you tube channel see you next time and remember.
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