for once we detected a melding it that we were going to attack and israel was in this with us through israel knows the story i'm telling you and we also knew then the syrian army had a very sophisticated weapon and we also knew from this intelligence report that saudi arabia turkey were supplying the basic chemicals to al nusra which isis was in there then i was the cutting edge and so there was a tremendous yes well absolutely. we always think everything because there was a law passed in two thousand and two after the invasion that said any time the president could do what he wants with congress so we always called everything. i mean everything everything around him in libya it was al qaeda in africa we use al qaeda because that gives you the cover of the law congress passed that stupid act even push the right to intervene anywhere without going congressional authorization it's an amazing piece of legislation talk about dumb anyway the point is this report troubled everybody there was

a study done about what can we do about it how many people american soldiers we should we didn't want to have there's a nerve agents suddenly comes this attack and we get a sample from the russians and it's taken to. a wall who's the director jeff the head of the british military the sample is taken to his people down here they could take at the port down where they conclude we know what the syria has serious been signed in a signatory to the geneva convention and chemical weapons we we know what syria has we know what it looks like and what was used in that place was not the same as in the syrian military this is told obama two times by the chairman of the joint chiefs before the recent. remember the red line when when the attack took place. so when the attack took place that allegedly forty nine there was one tenth as many doesn't matter when the attack took place and people were killed and the world said we did it my government said that the government knew they knew from this very

important intelligence report that caused a huge study to be done inside about what to do but it would take sixty thousand troops to get into the war we were thinking of maybe sending troops on the side of bashar really to get rid of this stuff we don't want these guys to have it and of course there was too many troops and it didn't happen but they knew there were two suspects that knew a noosa had the stuff in syria the stuff forget about having it analyzed they knew right away and they only talked about one and so i wrote an article saying while let's hold on folks what i also learned because i was writing months later is that the material that was taken by russia russian intelligence which is quite what can i tell you russian intelligence in damascus i mean without russia i don't think he could have survived i think they saved them a couple you fifteen he was in trouble he might decide to anyway the army was holding forth there wasn't collapsing as much as people thought that he was having trouble. anyway and by the way i'm always taken his apologist for bashar assad only doing is telling the truth i'm telling facts period. people who fight wars all

fight with same way he he doesn't do anything differently than we do we bomb the hell out of people how can the united states use the nuclear bomb and hiroshima did daylight bombing of major cities in germany one thousand forty four cities you know the sent the famous bombings that everybody dreads that just fire storms we just say somebody's house this is war criminal for fighting the war they say he was in a war a war and by all accounts the casualties were almost the same of both sides if this is an apology that's just that's just people not wanting to believe not wanting to believe their prefer their just like letting their personal dislike overcome the reality the point is that it was analyzed important the brits had it and only which is a laboratory we in america respect for those skilled in chemical weapons it was delivered the count was good liver to the chairman of the joint chiefs of staff its name was norman dempsey dempsey takes it i write this categorically in the london review i write this i don't say who the source is but i say he takes it you don't hear him

denying it you hear nothing said about this takes it to the president and says mr president you can't you don't have a case it's not clear it's not clear bashar did it the same day we learned later years later two thousand and fifteen. obama does a long interview with a man named jeffrey goldberg of land a monthly magazine one of his people he liked a lot twenty thousand word interview in the middle of the interview he says about that incident the red line the head of national intelligence a general named clapper air force one comes to see me and he says mr president. it's not a slam dunk which is you know like considered to be the that libya perhaps it's not that you know it so he didn't do the bombing because he didn't think he could win the case in the public arena that's why to do the bombing not because there was a deal made on getting rid of weapons he lied and so i write this stuff he didn't tell the truth syria wanted to get rid of this. what pushchairs i want to i wrote

in two thousand and three for the new yorker quoting mostafa to last the head of the fence of a. defense minister of syria and been defense minister for ten twenty years wrote a lot of poetry was tough and i quote him saying at one point there was a worry that america may take syria and i said what would you do then he said what could i do and i said well you could use a chemical weapons and the call of was in the new yorker and it was read to him and you know the new yorker check stuff he approved this all was in english he speaks english and he said to me. he said those things chemical weapons he says those things those use this things that the old man pushchairs father want it off us he thought it was a deterrent against israel cost us the fortune we have to protect it it's a big pain he said if we use those weapons america could incinerate us with nukes and they'd be right that's our crazy would be to use those weapons i said what would you do then and he said well we let him are let the americans call that they come to the massacres so let's see what happens i said what are you talking about

he said just like in baghdad and when they when they when they when the knights of malta came in the thirteenth century the rivers would be full of their blood he said we have a resistance and so i remember going back and telling my general friends in washington you know this is not textbook you talk with the defense wanted this is not he's not going to defend the country is going to let you come and kill you when you get there they're different i remember saying you're not going to have it's not going to be like the fight against not going to have a defense a perimeter and you're have to fight your way into the city he's going to let you in and get you when you're there it was very interesting but then he was prime minister here was telling us it is. the british troops should be involved we're getting huge amounts of persuasion here. i mean in syria now on syria up until say you know the drought it's over now the kurds have cut a deal with bashar assad it's over and drums of changes policies because when it comes to doubt we've been having here a thing where russia has been accused on

a regular basis in the british parliament of assassinating people in britain well that's the case is sort of falling apart there's been some reporting from europe and i should say the book says you get all the. w m d contexts for stories for decades now you've. got to be india for example there was a story and let's get let's get to the let me just say this there was a story in the press where syria was using chlorine in. the endgame in the isis and you know this spring there was an endgame. and there was a story that they were using sarin gas in korea together and so here's why hellman set foot. in the fifty's koreans are very volatile gas and it's of great interest to the it's not a lot of work for egypt and there was a story just the other day about syria drop the u.n. report going to drop this chlorine gas bomb there's no such thing it anybody's arsenal a korean bomb you have to how much chlorine can you put into it cory's a gas it dissipates quickly it moves quickly it's not lethal you can breathe and

keep on what it's not it's not a war for agent there's no such bomb but even more important because chlorine so reactive in the chemical corps in america when they develop those nerve agents in the fifty's they thought let's see what happens if we meld chlorine with it maybe it would soup it up make it even more more efficient as a killer and it turned out the chlorine immediately first thing it did in the field reports is published documents in the field corina immediately would go and grab all the hydrogen molecules from this era dignity disappeared so worked exactly the opposite in other words and drop of chlorine would become just another useless gas it would be much less lethal the korean would make it weak so that you can't which isn't the way it was record you can't use air and chlorine together just about the nobody does any homework this script and we had geoffrey robertson q.c. one of the world's leading human rights barristers on russia as a positive on this killing live in a go here the m i six by. we were told in this country i mean clearly this was

a little military grade. nerve gas as if you have to population you that you can have no idea a military grade military grade v.x. . you could wipe out half of london with that one i mean it's really it was well we'll call this story look i've written about it so i asked myself that i haven't written the story i always had about it from my friends in america is. those two were helping your british intelligence services with information about the russian mafia that's what they were doing here in other words the people that would high on the list that would want to hurt them would be the russian mafia russians but not the russian got to worry about this as well yeah i mean that was the understanding and there's also been some reporting in europe of it that it's been pretty much wiped widespread there was a story but the same actual same thing that they were actually were doing work for the marriage for the british intelligence committee activities i mean there is a big russian mafia let's face it and but that is in the russian government all i

would say is i think i mean tony what i was told but i haven't done a reporting on it so i don't know firsthand i know secondhand i've been told by people in america because you ask about it is that is that most likely the most likely they they were known to have been talking to the six and five relevant six or five people that i am i five or six people about what they knew about russian corruption in and you're not in russia again you know the activities and so the only you from there you can draw your own conclusions about who wanted to hurt him so i thank you for the show his book report your memoir is out now that's after the show will be back on monday to link you to judge my social media was forty two years to the day the socialist republic of vietnam was reunified after losing millions of men women and children and defeating the united states in the.

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up recognizing crimea as a part of russia ahead of his summit but bottom near putin. and the world cup in russia enters the knockout stage with sixteen teams still and it when it first are vying for a place in the quarter finals are france and argentina. this is our change national coming to you live from the russian capital where it's just turned twelve pm welcome to the program. deep divisions along party lines and fears over immigration have raised concerns for the ultimate fate of the u.s. almost a third of americans polled said they thought a second civil war was possible kill them off and picks up the story pretty hard to believe sounds almost like click or internet sensationalism but it turns out that a number of americans actually do believe that civil war is

a possibility furthermore the same poll indicated that roughly sixty percent of americans believe that backlash to donald trump's policies could turn violent the debate surrounding trump's immigration policies and the media fuming over it the gun control debate. and the white house and the intelligence community not getting along that has been quite explosive at times a member of the u.s. congress recently raised eyebrows when he compared the current atmosphere to the lead up to the u.s. civil war the way he put it the usa could be headed toward fort sumpter that was the symbolic attack by slave state secessionists that launched the war back in eight hundred sixty one there's even now talk of twenty four seventh's security for members of the trumpet ministration congresswoman maxine waters makes no bones about the fact that she is ready to take the fight against donald trump waybe on capitol hill and the voting booth in the. cabinet to run. the state. should you.

do you. mean waters herself has now been flooded with a number of threats and actually canceled several speaking events so let's see how people on the streets of new york feel about the rising polarization of american society what percent do you think said it was possible in the next five years. i would have to guess it that i let me let me go fifty eight percent sixty six six think it was possible. thirty or forty maybe thirty percent you're very close thirty one percent what do you think they're getting at why would they think that you know that that the such a possibility thirty one percent saying there could be a civil war maybe you because of the gun controls maybe because. i mean the racial we're having a lot of problems right now with the president with foreign policy with the immigrant children just too much going on all at the same time and

a lot of people are scared and a lot of people are anxious billard of dissension among americans and a lot of fear. and. creates. that cone of possibility and after donald trump won the highly divisive twenty sixteen presidential election he called for unity of the american people but now opposition to the president has become so uncivil that it's actually stoking fears of a new civil war. r t new york. two palestinians have been killed in protests at the israel gaza border on friday that's according to palestinian officials a teenager is said to be one of the dead. have been ongoing since.