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for russia we decided to do a bigger project looking at the real russia so we found a photographers from all over the country from god to you catherine involved a grad tickets and we asked them to document the country through their own eyes head of the world cup where this particular collaboration what russian football story impressed you the most i think it would be the euro mountains it was a very unusual set of photos which really reveals grassroots football and russian culture through through the game and the photos that we received from the euro mountains were fantastic really looking at how soviet infrastructure and soviet football infrastructure has developed into the twenty first century. a lot of the focus quite rightly in the lead up to the tournament is on the stadiums the infrastructure and the teams and the world cup itself what we want what we
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really want to do was tell those on told stories and really give russians a chance to give their own first person perspective that there is there's one thing i would say particularly about what the russia projects has surprised me with and that is how similar russia is really to a lot of other countries i think there's a perception maybe that russia is very different in some way to the rest of the world and particularly to europe i think one of things that came through particularly was the divide between urban and rural town countryside a lot of the same stories that we hear from around the world. in europe in asia there is that difference between you know investment into football in in urban areas first is kind of the rest of the country we've also covered projects in iraqi kurd kurdistan and you and tackling alleged legacy of genocide. and so
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what i think that all of these projects show in whatever country are in is that you really can understand people through football. i wouldn't say that there's a common cliche that football somehow unites everybody i mean i'm not saying that for me i actually showed the differences but it also. is a way of people understanding one another culture looks like how another people act because when you tell it through the lens of football it's so much more relatable. on saturday evening portugal clash with the euro why unsought you require fans have already followed their squad to a number of russian cities and one of which seems to have made an especially good impression. i. i.
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life oh yeah yeah i want to find out why. i'm. a. little. my. remark and i got i got it you know movie critic they don't believe you're losing you know in the mail with this illness i tell you. i mean that is for you. right. me want to install chief fans of christiane over now though
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waited for hours outside the hotel he's staying in to catch the briefest of glimpses of the world's best player. russia's doors have been wide open to the world for just over two weeks now and it seems that has just been enough time for visiting fans to embrace the local way of doing things. you know. i just. got my that her. to stay with isn't just an hour of football heavyweights front and argentina clash in the first playoff of cafe for a while it's custom will be pretty new the analysis there were out stay with us for that.
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when lawmakers manufactured sentenced to the public will. when the ruling closest to protect themselves. with the famous. listen to the one percent so. we can all middle of the room see. the real news is really. brags that it was all about the british my to bring back five hundred factories we're going to export our way back into a g.d.p. rocketship and take on the world cool britannia go brittania well it turns out
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they're all going to be picking fruit out there in canada very shy or. welcome back to world news now u.s. president donald trump has said he does not rule out recognizing crimea as russian province rejoined russia in two thousand and fourteen but is still considered internationally parts of ukraine are tastes america and has more on the developments on board air force one on friday trump spoke to reporters about his upcoming meeting with putin when a reporter asked him if he recognized crimea as part of russia he said quote we're going to have to see but then he blamed obama for the entire crimea debacle saying
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that it was a shame that obama gave up crimea now to remind the viewers of what happened in crimea back in twenty fourteen a referendum was held with international observers present and ninety seven percent of the population voted to secede from ukraine and join russia the west refuse to recognize this plebiscite and then impose sanctions on russia and then separate ones on crimea but just this week we also heard from another u.s. official john bolton who said that trump wouldn't recognize crimea as part of russia so conflicting views coming from the trump administration which seems like basic protocol at this point but these statements come a few weeks before trump summit with putin that's scheduled for july sixteenth in helsinki finland but this isn't the first time that trump has discussed relations with russia during the g. seven summit trump said that russia should be reinstated let's check out what he
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said i would rather see russia in the g. eight as opposed to the as you said i would say that the g eight is a more meaningful group than the g seven absolutely trump also said that he'd be discussing a range of other issues with president putin including alleged election interference syria ukraine. relations with china and russia to possibly deescalate the conflicts going on in the world but until july sixteenth we won't know exactly what happened so we'll just have to wait until then. human rights activists have voiced concern over the creation of migrant processing comes a move decided upon by e.u. leaders on friday they fear such facilities could effectively become detention centers and lead to human rights violations while europe's leaders are touting the new deal as a breakthrough in dealing with the migrant crisis paula slip reports down still remain if this is a long term solution. having emerged after the nearly ten hour marathon summit e.u.
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leaders have been patting themselves on the back quite a lot for me this is a satisfying outcome it sends out a good message that we have a mantra to prepare the joint tax i'm optimistic that we can cooperate for the co has now brought a real breakthrough. a more responsible and more supportive europe is emerging from this european council italy is not left alone any more. but in reality the deal getting all this praise is a carefully but vaguely worded one just like so many other agreements struck by the bloc in the past but this one manages to satisfy a diverse range of views so just exactly how was it reached one challenge was to satisfy italy who on thursday blocked all joint decisions prior to the summit in an effort to appease tensions the member states decided to stay and rescued migrants on a new territory to so-called control centers across the bloc bus and this was only
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to appease central european countries like the czech republic and hungary those locations are still to be decided and can only happen in countries who volunteer to have them not surprising they're not many volunteers many leaders again pushed for responsibility to fall on first arrival countries who are already have enough migrants same tis all seeds under the dublin regulation refugees have to buy in the first european country where they are right we are sticking to this rule and the fall is that those countries responsible for migration senses france is not the country's first arrival so most open source senses notice in trade goes north we are not the first arrival country unless people jump with birth was in an apparent lifeline for the german chancellor angela merkel this non-binding agreement says that all governments must take measures to stop migrants and refugees from crossing your internal board. it is now this is something that no call desperately means is
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basically a two week ultimatum from her coalition partner who is threatening to impose a new border regime against her world unless merkel finds an all europe solutions. and if european solution cannot be achieved we need to act on our own we agree on the objective but our approaches are different in the next fourteen days we will see whether we can find common ground. here's another key point of the so-called breakthrough deal european leaders have also backed plans to tighten the clocks board is and provide more money to countries like turkey and morocco to pervade migrants from coming to europe processing centers also being say tapping countries like egypt libya algeria and others but these are the kind of things that have been happening since two thousand and fifteen and they haven't managed to solve the my current crisis so perhaps these new or not so new measures are less about helping the migrants and more about saving the hits of some european leaders. and.
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deep divisions along party lines and fears of immigration have raised talk of a second civil war credible picks up the story pretty hard to believe sounds almost like click or internet sensationalism but it turns out that a number of americans actually do believe that civil war is a possibility furthermore the same poll indicated that roughly sixty percent of americans believe that backlash to donald trump's policies could turn violent the debate surrounding trump's immigration policies and the media fuming over it the gun control debate and the white house and the intelligence community not getting along that has been quite explosive it times a member of the u.s. congress recently raised eyebrows when he compared the current atmosphere to the lead up to the u.s. civil war the way you put it the usa could be headed toward fort sumpter that was the symbolic attack by slave states the session as it launched the war back in
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eight hundred sixty one there's even now talk of twenty four seven security for members of the trumpet ministration congresswoman maxine waters makes no bones about the fact that she's ready to take the fight against donald trump way beyond capitol hill and the voting booth in the. city. the gas station. and you should. thank you thank you. maxine waters herself has now been flooded with a number of threats and actually canceled several speaking events so let's see how people on the streets of new york feel about the rising polarization of american society what percent do you think said it was possible in the next five years. i would have to guess is that i let me let me go fifty eight percent sixty six six think it was possible when i started are forty maybe thirty percent you're very
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close thirty one percent what do you think they're getting at why would they think that you know that that the such a possibility thirty one percent saying there could be a civil war maybe you because of the gun controls maybe because. i mean the racial we're having a lot of problems right now with the president with foreign policy with the immigrant children just too much going on all at the same time and a lot of people are scared and a lot of people are anxious to lot of dissension among americans and a lot of fear. and then creates. that cone of possibility after donald trump won the highly divisive twenty sixteen presidential election he called for unity of the american people but now opposition to the president has become so uncivil that it's actually stoking fears of a new civil war. r.t.
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new york thanks for chasing off the international base our will be back at the top of the hour with the latest headlines and also regular updates as france not insane are prepared to kick off and test five minutes say that.
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f.o.c. . brags that it was all about the british my to bring back five hundred factories are going to export our way back into a g.d.p. rocket ship and take on the world cool britannia go britannia well it turns out they're all going to be picking fruit out there in canada very shy or. you know world of big. logs and conspiracy it's time to wait
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to dig deeper to hit the stories that mainstream media refuses to tell more than ever we need to be smarter we need to stop slamming the door on the shouting past each other it's time for critical thinking it's time. to fight for the middle for the troops the time is not for watching closely for watching the hawks. not afshin rattansi we're going underground on british armed forces day and in this special edition we're joined by pulitzer prize winning journalist hirsch who exposed nato nation war crimes of the military industrial complex from abu ghraib prison in the anglo-american war in iraq to the mean massacre site hersh has
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exerted a damning skepticism of the official line did the syrian government really use chemical weapons what was the truth behind the asama bin laden assassination what connects nato nations to isis diag and al-qaeda and should we believe to resume about the poisoning of the script files in england his new book reporter memoir is out now thanks so much for going back and going underground why you rather than dick cheney and though you were writing a book on dick cheney. it's a source issue i mean what happened is. obama in the balmy years there was he tightened very much on leaks and dissent in particular in the intelligence community put our cia guy in jail there were people in the white house somebody who was jailed also privately without public disclosure there was a sense that obama really didn't like leaks and so i had done a book on cheney i've written a lot about cheney for the new yorker during you know the after nine eleven and there was a story a book to write and when i began giving chapters to people involved they said the
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appropriate you know it's just going to be published because they would get in trouble their professional intelligence people and military people the ones i deal with they take an oath of office to the to the concert. to sion and not to any particular president so i just had to i just couldn't publish the book and put him in jeopardy it would put them in jeopardy would would make it almost impossible for me that the check about me is that. i don't give up people i meet people they they don't go after my people they don't know who they are i put nothing in a computer i write all my interviews in longhand and so i just felt if i if i publish stuff over their opposition and they got prosecuted i would not sleep at night and be also not be able to do the kind of reporting i'm still doing if anyone reading this memoir about so much military action of one kind or another they shouldn't be a grid of the things you said recently that we're in war with the united states is
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a war in seventy six countries now let alone the wars you clinical in this what i said was that there's seventy six places in the in the world where the americans are involved with kinetically with weapons and it based it was based on actually a public study done by an institute at brown university called the waltz institute and i knowing some of the people involved with the study it's lose a lot of stuff that we have a big special forces community that are active particularly in africa and a lot of places i think the public knows very little about it i don't think this are my president is been briefed on any of it i don't think he would he's not interested in oh you doesn't know about it i know there's concern about some people in the military and high up in the military in my government in washington what are these guys doing who's in control there's a lack of control in among the special forces they've just gotten and many of them are driven. with the idea that they are on a crusade that they're there the night some alter fighting the infidels in the
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fourteenth century or thirteenth century ice really crazy stuff and so i don't think when i hear military special operations command say about mali here's what happened four guys died how i'm sorry i i just think this probably. much more to the story i think there's much more to our presence there but it's very hard to get to that stuff lots of opportunities for reporters is we may be you thinking in any way that this memoir already being reviewed quite widely favorably and helps in defending you from some quite extraordinary ad homonym attacks on your recent reporting you know the only thing that happened in my recent reporting is. it was fine when bush and cheney when dick cheney and george bush were in charge but want to bomb i came in he was the not the white knight if you will or the black knight ok it's african-american and it just changed it editors just you know that's the way it is the stories that would have been fine in the days of bush and cheney
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suddenly were you know not getting published and people were complaining that i am always on the complaining about anonymous sources as if every day the new york times you can't pick up a newspaper and find the lead story based on anonymous sources it's just part of our business you can't name people in particular the stuff i do know i you know when i first did the middle i story really master story in one nine hundred sixty nine the first thing i remember there was a poll from the i think the university of minnesota fifty four percent of the people didn't believe it and forty six and among my peers you know eighty percent didn't believe it you have to expand on the mean life story because it's not on any british curriculum is as stated a mature in the united states you know how it is it's when i was growing up i born in one thousand thirty seven by the time i got into my twenty's and thirty's world war one oh my god i don't think i knew about world war one his fields of poppies that hemingway novels so it's not surprising to me that the generation doesn't know what happened to me lies vietnam has disappeared in america pretty well you know it
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wasn't a good war for us i'm sure there's still five pages of textbooks but there was a period when universities all had special courses on the war but that was twenty thirty years ago you and i were too old buddy we're all people i'm a much younger yeah but you know when i. no grey here but you must think that i don't believe he but if we go. mentioned it the medium as it still resonates the name of the judge with maybe historians of vietnam you tell in this book the story of trying to find sources and witnesses just describe what you go into there and why i just got a tip about it and you know i covered it's not as if i came from nothing i've been a police reporter in chicago and let me tell you about being a police reporter in one thousand nine hundred sixty wanted to go to go it was you learned a couple things you learn all about the weakness as my first job was copied we're working for a news agency to cover crimes and police chases and so what i learned was you could do anything you want as a reporter was great fun you're on the street you're reporting about fires and
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murders but if a cop kills a black person that's off the books you know you know no matter what your words not going to be taken and if if you ever get into the police relationship with the mafia in chicago you know this is sam giancana though some of those names some of your people know the famous mafioso as you could you could you could see fight some guy in the street with fourteen bullets in a downtown area where those clubs controlled by the mob and everybody would be reported as an automobile accident and so i learned right away that there was tyranny in the world that there were things you could do there was self censorship too and stop shooting i had a great time i learned a lot about i covered fires i learned more about racism that i thought i would but i also knew there were there was as i say tyranny there were certain things you could not get the chicago police department was operating in a world on its own things have changed a lot since then but what a lesson and that was in sixty sixty one i went in the army i worked for united press international i covered the legislature in peter south dakota town of ten
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thousand i was a chicago kid never lived in a small city i then worked in chicago and i was sent there washing covered the war from the pentagon learned to hate the war but the point i'm making is by the time i got to the meat life story i'd been in the business a. nine years and so when i got a tip about somebody shooting up a village you got to read before you write so i used to it was not about watching reading the new york times coverage of the war and then i read the french the french journalist and bernard fall there was a couple wonderful french journalists who wrote about the fall of france india being food nine hundred fifty four and so i read a lot and so i and there was muscle tribunals was very important although everybody in america said burton russel's he hates america he's ninety four it was an incredible document there was testimony from american soldiers about shooting up villages like crazy fifty sixty five very early so when i got a tip about me i drop whatever else i was doing and i thought i could do it but i thought i would heard that some g.i.
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went crazy and shot up seventy five people and that sounded like something that could happen but they didn't in the war early on is we were going to villages american units a company would go in on a raid find nobody there and we the way it worked as we always thought the viet cong our enemy the north through the maze they were farmers by day and guerrillas at night so we go early in the morning and catch him in bed after a night of being a gorilla i don't know what the craziness was woman and children so after enough of those raids you would get frustrated sometimes the officers would say ok guys i know you're all angry everybody can have a mad moment in this village the tank gunner with his missiles and the machine gun is you can shoot the villagers up so that was quick to let the guys get off if you will they so be happy so they should have villages and that's what i thought they were talking about and then i got into the story and at the same time as i'm writing about the fact these people killed five hundred sixty seven people something like that and innocent people there was no they were the company to been
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in the war for about three months the kids the nothing about the vietnam or the culture and they were proportionally more hispanics and blacks than in the population and poor farm kids really white kids. mcnamara the secretary defense of lowered the standard by sixty seven and sixty eight he wanted no more there was a draft that presumably would take very edgy well educated middle class white people he didn't want them in the war because they would come home and talk and be articulate about it and the senator who ran against lyndon johnson eugene mccarthy used to talk recently about maybe mcnamara wanted to change the color of the corpses but in this village they were brief this this company that hadn't seen the enemy they had been sniped at and they'd fallen into pits with sticks pool of poison they'd lost about twenty or thirty people have their hundred and they want to pay back and they were told by the cia official contract employ bad intelligence some are you going to go into
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a village and you going to see the enemy there so they got ready to go to their credit to be kill or be killed for america right they had seen no combat really and they fly in and there's nothing there woman making five hundred fifty sixty men women no one no men old men women children and they began to round them up and executed what i could write about the they did things like throwing up babies and catching them alive on bayonets i mean and raping like crazy i didn't. so much trouble that story because i didn't know what i was getting into when i first started it and the horror and shame i felt for my country and for my soldiers i've been in the army i did the army i was it was a piece of everything idea that the guys i served with do this kind of stuff so in a way the kids who did it was mostly the white kids hispanics and the african-americans no way man this is that the old face the whites that they do it this isn't for us and the next day they all wore on band some of the miners minorities and they were ordered to take them off their black armbands trying to
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separate themselves from the white kids had done the shooting anyways just a mess was a great story and you didn't. blame those soldiers also knew for they were getting they want told anything about this is. they didn't they were told they were communists they're out to kill us they didn't they weren't and they couldn't figure out these kids were not talking about the crime to the crime of america these are their working lower working class kids met them or lowered the standards that normally would be bright enough or have not about brains about education they want to get into the army so what did they know one of the problems they had is my god these people didn't have refrigerators i mean i talk to forty or fifty that before i realized you know after i wrote a book about this afterwards and i went i spent six eight months just flying around america talking to kids some slam the door some did talk to me but many did and pouring out their heart they had a problem in vietnamese society when they evacuate one of the planes one of the things we did in the.

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