but generally speaking we think that diplomacy and dialogue are the way towards peace and that it is neither via sanctions nor by exclusions that we will achieve peace that is a day we have very worried by the climate of insecurity that reigns in the east of your fears you see the uneasiness of the baltic countries the uneasiness of sweden where you uneasiness of poland but we also see russia's uneasiness with regards to nato expansion a certain number of uncertainty sweethearting nato so there is a situation that is not very reassuring them from this point of view i think it is necessary to work towards the security of the east of europe and that this is achieved a mutually trusting relationship especially between france germany and russia. the question steyer ago trump said that he's personal friends and was not as well as state friendship between the two countries was unbreakable and were in friendship train washington all that what happened to this cordial relationship with the

french president he instead here can drift away from the u.s. . president i think that the french president wanted to show in his relationship with mr trump that in democracy it is the people who are president just because we disagree with the president doesn't mean it's necessary to disagree with the people it is the american people who are present a crucial points of our history as well as the russian people who played such an important part in our liberation during world war two also we have very important history together which naturally president michel these particular attention to that you but it goes without saying that there are numerous concerns about mr trump that are profoundly problematic for us when he plays with the children of migrants for the sake of opinion polls he takes these children hostage first saying that he will separate them from their parents don't really know them again. this gives the

impression that when we talk about humanist vision founded especially on the importance of family which is essential to our culture there are a certain number of things going on that are unacceptable and when we see that we have a car factory that makes more than four hundred thousand cars in iran which is forced to close its doors under pressure from the americans i risk currently in europe a certain weariness in the face of american pressure but we are not yet at the point of the great shift that i spoke off but i think that the intellectual and political infrastructure is now in place to prepare for a new vision of europe's future and more specifically that of a strong europe within a stable eurasia that is strong europe within a stable eurasia i think this is the destiny that is starting to emerge today and that mr trump is actually accelerating. that plant because it will take a short break right now when we're back we'll continue talking to jump. on the

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dollars. china's building two point one billion dollars ai industrial park but don't let the numbers overwhelm. the only numbers you need remembering one one just to show you can't afford to miss the one and only fool but. the truth. we're back with. the former prime minister of france talking about the current challenges france has to deal with. correct me if i'm wrong but i can't remember

any french president being so much in the spotlight gleick. seems like everyone cares about what he has to say and he talks to the united states on behalf of the you in the home but it's almost as if he is actually replacing angola merkel as to unofficial leader of the european union would you agree with that. very green with you that emmanuel michaels leadership was established very very quickly you know within the institutions of the french republic general said that the president of the republic is responsible for the essentials of french presidents who on the first day following their election and sometimes even five years later did not have exceptional charisma make him. the first day of his becoming president he had the bearing of a great head of state he's got this magic ocean issaquah which is called charisma which is called leadership and it is true that in the whole world people are listening to what he has to say first off because he is just forty and is likely to

be president for a while this will be decided by the french voters of course but also because he is someone who is blessed with an intellectual prowess that is particularly sharp because of his liveliness and his modernity so all these are considerable assets but naturally on an international level it is necessary to show prudence to listen to others because the current situation has profoundly degraded and global tensions are very high and there's a lot of uneasiness regarding current crises such as terrorism such as migrant issues even questions linked to the digital revolution such as the digital economy this results in a very dangerous world and france is mostly satisfied to have a president that is recognised but there are strong expectations of him and his challenges now not to disappoint. you think that he has enough political weight to replace merkel asked him leader of the european union. the false killer

property i think that the political weight he has it in his own country because he is backed by a strong majority angela merkel has a more complex political situation with constant negotiations within her coalition . has much more room for maneuver with international politics number less obviously angle america has the experience and also has the success of our policy and the strength that the german economy has today behind her there are challenges in germany for example demographical challenges but there are also results that are massively large that have given under merkel the status of a leader but i truly believe that europe's future depends on the goodwill the mutual comprehension the intense dialogue that will exist that we in france or germany between a manual macro an angle americal. if you man know now that the u.k. is leaving the e.u.

france may be pulling more weight and heroes as breck said help micron's invitation to lead hero meanwhile his game or political clout with london out of the balance. to start with fundamentally brags that is not good news because within bragg's it is a process of deconstruction of europe which is worse on the other hand we have important treaties with the united kingdom in matters of defense these treaties are called the lancaster house treaties the pact of essential military cooperation so we must retain a strong bilateral relationship with the united kingdom. however it is true that we have seen the brig's it has first and foremost brought france and germany closer together has brought together several countries from continental europe and in this situation we can see that brags it has triggered something a revival of the european ambition and from an economical perspective from a financial perspective we see that many financial players who are based in london

which was pretty much europe's financial capital these players are progressive the moving to confidence of europe and rejoining the euro zone or so this low is strong enough to show the public opinion but there is a real interesting new dynamic here. so a level barely ample of them and now i'd like to talk to you about the threat of terrorism france faces sporadic lone wolf terrorist attacks and almost a monthly basis in the center for the and now this is of terrorism says that france remains the most heavily targeted country in europe in three years since tobacco klon and france has adopted a number of anti terror laws but the threat remains why is it is something wrong with france's approach to the issue also there. i think that we have made significant progress especially in terms of surveillance in terms of intelligence. we have also made great progress in the legal and

legislative aspects of these things to make sure the surveillance policy is faithful to our laws especially to the protection of civil liberties which are part of our constitutional rights there is significant and important progress here. we see that often and when we encounter trouble we get the relevant information concerning these troubles very quickly the problem is that a lot of times we are dealing with solitary actions and that is very difficult with a number of radicalized individuals not only in france but in neighboring countries who can come to france at any time it is obvious that these isolated individuals are in a situation where they are protected in a way by their isolation and their anonymity but generally speaking we have made a lot of progress and numerous attacks were filed and we remain very very vigilant with regards to our military budget which is rising the intelligence budgets which is rising the surveillance budget which is also rising and significant efforts have

been made dolly's areas of course this is a very difficult war and numerous countries have had to face the sort of difficulty and international cooperation is well established on the subject. beyond french borders mcclellan has intensified the entire terrorist involvement in syria and moving more troops and then upping the eight cents to the kurds in the noise what is paris have been to accomplish in the country and what kind of dividend after with his military investment. you know that the french policy has always been based on dissuasion on talks not on force so intervention is not our strategic happen sometimes against terrorism we are obliged to come to aid of countries that are in chaos and that is what gives legitimacy to our actions in africa. with regards to syria in the previous five year period we had some goals

that were sometimes incompatible on one hand the goal to fight terrorism and on the other the goal of fighting against bashar al assad who is fighting his own people so these were two goals of a contradictory because the fight against terrorism required in part the acceptance of bashar al assad's role in syria and we had many debates in france and opinions differ greatly and today emanuel has showed the course which i think he spoke of a great length and we've great conviction a lot in your potent issue that you are goal number one as of today has been clarified and it is the fight against terrorism regards to the future of syria which is important the syrians must orchestrate their country's future and if we can help them we will but our number one goal is to be able to fight against the terrorists hard beds that currently exist there he says france have any kind of colonial guilt of the syrian affair since it was france and basically created modern syria by growing lines on the map. no. no i think that there have been

numerous debates regarding the consequences of the colonial spirit which is still present in some places but this debate does not concern the levant it concerns in the past africa and the current political path that we follow is very clear on this subject so i do not think that with regards to syria there is a french position that is particularly motivated by our direct interests our main interest in this affair is peace it's the protection of our people it's the. the fight against terrorism so of course it is a blow to the heart when you see so much historical heritage all the traces of the huge civilization of what was once missile but they far before us and way before modern times all these images of destruction of historical and civilizational heritage very hard to stomach however our main purpose in this region is that of protection of our people by fighting against terrorism or. bad you think you do not

think at all that france have to restore its influence in its former demain maybe like in its former african colonies. france is never happy about losing its influence also i think we seek to radiate our influence everywhere we can what is that happens on this topic we do not have a vision that would be in the best interests of france but we have a vision that is in the best interest of peace and we act on behalf of the international community with the international community to fight against terrorism and obviously together all the goodwill that exists around the world to unite in international solidarity against terrorism this is our guiding principle this is the nose or is it finally i heard you say that actual war is not impossible at that is to hear a peon frontier with hate as squaring off against i imagine the russians what makes you think that the mutually assured destruction block training will fail.

i think that the nato summit that will take place in july will undoubtedly be the summit that will put made a face to face with a major strategic decision we can see that nato is founding principle was solidarity but that today this solidarity is for the most part challenged by the american president. so i think that there is truly a strategic a revision that must be carried out personally i have committed myself by creating an ngo and non-governmental organization that is called leaders for peace and i work with mr orloff from russia and other partners we are around thirty in total people representing different countries but all having had experience being for instance a diplomat the prime minister the minister of foreign affairs or nobel prize winner where all of very very worried by the situation of income branch that is unfolding to the east of europe and we would truly like to try to convince the various parties to avoid this accusation or else these threats of war that we hear from

both sides and that are for us scenarios that are not only catastrophic but are also not truly of strategic interest to anybody and we're all aware of europe's issues with russia we're all aware of the historical context within europe and that we must be able to listen to each other but security in this region must be assured and assumed and we should not four hundred cells in this situation of virtual threats of tensions on both sides which truly creates an uncertain climates as we can current to see in sweden for example i think that nato has its share of responsibility here russia has shown its capacity in a crisis it showed its will and its power its capability of showing the strength of big russia and where all will aware of all this but it is necessary to be able to appease and calm in this part of europe because it is now a source of tension that does not seem to make much for teaching sense.

who will sit down to all of you were talking to. the former prime minister of france about europe's vital issues and that is it for this edition of sophie and co i will see you next time.

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. roughly don't t.v. . what is described in the west as a russian invasion of crimea is a fact the presence of russian soldiers in crimea can you clarify that let us discuss all about they could have to give it a brilliance because of a quote but the most of the moscow floor could him. as long ago as eighteen zero for sevastopol the naval base became the main military port of the russian empire on the black sea. during the second world war the heroic defense of sevastopol lasted almost a year and took hundreds of thousands of lives. therefore the naval base in crimea has a legacy of historical pride for the russian black sea fleet as well as being of huge strategic importance.

those of us alive back then remember when there were soviet missiles put into cuba how frightened americans were and how angry and how we almost went to a nuclear confrontation over having weapons of that kind of destruction placed that close to the united states. just so if the united states considers cuba to be in its backyard. then crimea plays at russia's doorstep. the consequences of a u.s. seizure of the face or a nato base which internationally. but almost some of us india is and insuring is an actual plot which you have taught me to. put you on with that. post today and you know unless assuring us not be stuck with practical putting it into she. has no opinion on it. so it's not just an imitator use ocean to elicit but if there was no

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into thirteen countries up to the borders of russia thirteen countries at the time what what's being up at the time of waiting the ship way not. these they do in the midst of them what should the busy mean. in early spring of two thousand and fourteen eastern ukraine was also buzzing with protests against the new authorities in kiev this region with the population close to russia geographically and culturally feared that the ultra right leanings of the newly formed government would bring meal nationalism to their lands. and they had their reasons. the status of the russian language in ukraine has been a stumbling block for many years implementing russian as a second state bank which was one of the main campaign promises of president bush in a full day in two thousand and twelve the government passed

a law making it the second official language in the southern and eastern parts of ukraine the areas where the russian speaking pop. elation makes up a majority ukrainian nationalist groups initiated massive protests opposing the law and observing viewer might see some familiar faces there on a flight on. one of our last. on february twenty third two thousand and fourteen the very next day after the regime change the new government voted for a no meant of the official status of the russian language and even though later this decision was vetoed by the acting president alexander turchynov it still sent a message and a powerful one this alarm the russian speaking cities of eastern ukraine and people took to the streets to show their disagreement. in response. is conducted their own demonstrations when the two parties would meet it was always tense and

eventually it led to tragedy. one person died and over fifty people were wounded in clashes during a pro russian march protesting the new government in kiev. on april sixth the crimean scenario began repeating eastern ukraine where protesters seized government buildings. and the next day the full seven day proclaimed don't yet see people's republic kiev replied by announcing the beginning of an anti-terrorist operation in eastern ukraine. by that time the international media was screaming about a russian invasion in ukraine russia could now be on the verge of invading ukraine but strong words state only in the media the ukrainian authorities never announced a war like situation why i.m.f. cannot give money to countries in gauged an ongoing war that's roboto shango over

as they can only think you when you go to your show will go to geneva too much money was already invested in you. rain to stop halfway have invested over five billion dollars to assist ukraine in these and other goals that will ensure a secure and prosperous and democratic train. to mccarthy starts in a city you know well it will slowly new democracy just go it is among the other most of the work across filters in couplers is just north of that some of them but obviously the funds had to keep coming in the conflict had to keep going. for and more bloody and deadly. journey. as parties from both sides were using more sophisticated and lethal weapons. as well then. got door to focus just. on this field of. oil

natural when you put your source though not all of. us. through a new deal. you know that's really kind of a prelude to. the world seem too busy welcoming this new democracy in kiev. to notice what was being done as it spread its wings over the country. many in southern ukraine had been viewing the revolution with concern. i and an anti mind on movement formed in the city of odessa in early january two thousand and fourteen the protesters set up their camp in front of the trade union house a building which would soon become a monument to a massacre of its own it's difficult to overestimate the importance of odessa it is strategically located on the black sea and it's ukraine's largest seaport it's not

surprising that ukraine's new authorities were watching the situation unfolding there with growing along arm. more and more of odessa as people were joining the anti my don movement at the same time as events in eastern ukraine were heating up . the new ukrainian government didn't have the power to wage war on too many fronts if odessa were to join the growing uprising in the eastern regions it would seriously complicate the situation. this rebellion had to be extinguished immediately and at any cost and that cost was high. on may second two thousand and fourteen soccer fans flocked to the center of odessa city for the ukrainian championship match surprisingly a great number of these fans who descended into odessa just the night before also turned out to be fighters from the my don self-defense units along with members of radical organizations from all parts of ukraine that these. books.

these families asked armed and shouting nationalist mottos began disturbances in the center of the city as they marched to the end time i don tent encampment where they attacked the end time mind on protesters sought shelter in the trading house but it was a track down supporters started throwing molotov cocktails into the building until it was engulfed in flames. people burned to death inside for trying to escape jumped from wind alo a fire station was less than a mile away it took almost half an hour for firefighters to arrive when they finally did the damage had been done. but here's an intriguing fact just a few days before those dreadful events a messenger from my don andriy pair o. b. made a visit to odessa it's an interesting coincidence that some of the people he met

with in odessa were seen at the scene that fateful day. but not everyone was mourning on the popular political talk show schuster live the news about the people burned alive in odessa was welcomed with a long round of applause. on its facebook page the right sector announced the events of may second a proud moment in national history an official investigation into this sad event has been going on now for nearly two years and it's yet to reach a conclusion but it seems the experts and all the information they needed from the very beginning. you just get really cute.