that we should be going along towards the american style of health care absolutely i mean simon stevens as the n.h.s. chief executive of an interesting land is emblematic sadly of a much bigger problem here it goes beyond the n.h.s. and extends to to the bigger issues of public services in our society which is that there's been a corporate capture of democracy through such strategies as the revolving door political donations corporate lobby and what we're seeing is that the top levels of the department of health and office in parliament with health secretaries health ministers we're also seeing at the top levels of n.h.s. management there is a massive revolving door and started students as you've mentioned was alan milburn and tony blair's. the former health secretary defending the health service on the seventieth anniversary saying are wonderful it is well i'm in melbourne along with under obviously the blair era and to simon stevens and that whole team actually what they did was they expanded the limited market that existed in the ninety's into a much more extensive market with by bringing in outsourcing of clinical services

on a bigger scale public private partnerships peer followed the most toxic disastrous legacy of that period so it's somewhat disingenuous i think of people like other melbourne to present themselves as defenders of the n.h.s. when in fact they have been responsible for privatisation and marketisation on a scale that perhaps even fashion never even dreamt of. this strange little goatees system that everyone seems to be criticizing right now who just finally about the reinstatement bill one of the drafters and professor pollack you're supporting it what would it actually mean well the reason that professor allison pollock and colleague barrister peter roderick have written this and it just reinstatement bill it's ordered by the opposition leader jeremy corbin it is supported absolutely jeremy corbyn and john both coburn and john mcdonnell have signed up to this quite some time ago sadly we are seeing that the new labor elements in the. including the

shadow health team and including many of the m.p.'s in the parliamentary labor party do not wish to support the children ages three and seven where they would tend to basically restore the n.h.s. to renationalise it to restore it as a publicly provided owned funded and accountable system boy repealing the health and social care act which was a privatization act back in twenty twelve in its entirety by removing outsourcing to private companies by removing the internal and in fact extensive market with all that zation to these private contractors. with outsourcing what you can obviously do is just wait for the contract to expire so that shouldn't particularly require any years and here. i agree with you there are complicated. solutions and issues to be resolved but the most progressive solution that's been presented is to take the actual financial instrument at the heart of it into to take that back into public hands and that would help to then restructure or abolish that that the word a very dangerous point which is that we are seeing

a situation now where whole chunks of the n.h.s. are basically being carved up to then potentially hand over ten to fifteen year multi-billion pound contracts for health and social care for whole regions in terms of us corporations to say we've already seen or not to bring about this transition contract nearly three million pounds has been handed over to the u.k. arm of a major us health insurer sent in u.k. and to capital to bring about this transition towards accountable care which is a u.s. health care concept used in medicaid which is their kind of threadbare safety net for the poorest people who can afford insurance that's certainly not a model that we want to bring over here and the usual being a thank you after the break we speak to and they just intensive care nurse jackie barrie an award winning activist downed last about the headlines on the flood plains of the n.h.s. at seventy. that

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since the start of the world cup russian sports commentators have put cruelly sure on their list of teams capable of winning russians love to root for the underdog but will they have sympathy for a rival impact on russia's quarterfinal time with croatia. welcome back on saturday tens of thousands of people marched to protest to raise a maze handling of the ukase universal health care system on the eve of the n.h.s. is seventieth birthday i'm joined now by intensive care nurse jackie barrie who was on that march jack. welcome back to going underground in the johnson services at

westminster abbey for the seven develop first really jazz. stable data b.b.c. their mosque being something else a crisis in the as religious well it would look that way i think there are a lot of people at the moment politicians who want to make a big thing about their program h.s. credentials but actually let's have a look at their record they all say they're pro images where everyone wants to be seen as being problem h.s. in fact so much so that even trees may have been compelled to come out and make this announcement she's putting in billions of pounds of extra cash into the n.h.s. jeremy haun has been forced into a situation where he's having to spin a pay cut for n.h.s. workers as people want to be seeing this problem over and i was a peon with religious logo all it yet people want to be seen as probably in excess of that in politicians understand that there is a bond between ordinary working class people in britain and their national health

service so to come out and openly say actually we're privatizing it for months you're very nice we're politically very unpopular thing to do however is the reality which is why i think it's so important that while we celebrate seventy of the n.h.s. it isn't just given over to the tories so what washed it into what they wanted to pay and the truth is told about national health service which is there is power for pound the most efficient model for delivering care however that has been fundamentally undermined by a series of problem market privatization measures why do they do it because as you say i mean some think why. are they for this for the ages when everyone seems to support it anyway because the narrative needs to be shifted it's great that people want to celebrate their health service but they need to be presented with an alternative patient the one that we currently have one of people in for treatment in covered. because there aren't any beds for them to go to where you've got people

have a mental health crises who can't get even the appropriate psychiatric care that they need because mental health want to fund it it's important that we that we might those points and that we make it clear to both the tories and the like what exactly we expect from our government and that is a publicly owned publicly provided free at the point of a national health service with integration from social care. to do you in your coworkers see when you're working there well i'm compelled by by my terms of employer and my professional code of ethics to stop me from giving concrete examples but what i can say to you is that we are one hundred thousand staff sure in n.h.s. england alone and that is inevitably going to have an impact on the standard and the safety of patient care at frontline but how free is the public health care system because people have to pray prescription charges for meds. unless they're in

poverty or they're out of work or in some kind of real welfare benefit their own doctors can sometimes be because they be missing in action because they've gone to work privately their consultants and so on is a public health. what it is to an extent and i think you raise a good point about prescription charges what do we have to pay for prescription charges it's because pharmaceutical companies are private enterprises and if we did to why we profit pharmacy then we could have nationalized pharmaceutical industry and we could provide drugs on the basis of need not on the basis of people's ability to pay nothing is free and we have already paid for the n.h.s. nothing this is kind of the point actually we've already paid for it for our taxation so i've really reject the idea that it's flow imagine some circles at the moment that we should increase taxes on working people in order to subsidize the national health service because we've all. already paid for but successive

governments have made a choice since the creation of the n.h.s. to fund it as a percentage of g.d.p. is much lower than many other o.e.c.d. countries maybe half as much as trump is funding a private system in the united states from other taxpayer. what do you think of the fact that many are now saying you know the n.h.s. is too expensive and actually it's not a good model anyway well i think the evidence says that actually it is a good motto health outcomes are comparable if not better than those in the united states and we do it on a fraction of the cost the problems that we have in delivering a service based on the current set up is that we've got this sort of part public private situation where resources are leeched out of public services out of delivering care at the front line and into into the into the pockets of private shareholders it was only

a couple of years ago under this conservative government the junior doctors went on strike in britain which is pretty unheard of do you think there is talk amongst the rank and file of n.h.s. workers right now of possible strike action if policies as we've seen continue regarding the health care system in britain well there's a lot of debate about that certainly we're currently in a situation where his workers have accepted a pio order which has been branded as a paying crispe is actually the introduction of performance related pay and that is potentially going to see our wages driven down and held back even further so i think there's definitely potential for industrial action in the future on issues about but what we're also seeing is local action where trusts are effectively attempting to privatized. work force and take them out of the n.h.s. and we're seeing more and more industrial disputes particularly in the north to see the employers off on that issue and i just workers. like any other way because we

have absolutely the right to withdraw. if tense and conditions are intolerable and at the moment we have a situation where temps and conditions are becoming increasingly intolerable. unfortunately many will fail they have no choice but to lift or that well obviously we're going to invite jeremy on to health secretary here in britain on the show to try and refute what you've just been saying thank you very thank you for. joining me now to go through some of the week's headlines is award winning activist dan glass as well as gluing him self to a british prime minister and creating a flash mob to protest british backed israeli attacks on gaza you can also see him in the new red fish production death by a thousand cuts the n.h.s. selloff has released on the internet tomorrow thanks so much dan for coming on ahead of and the results that lifesaving multinational company results at the end of the month this murdoch story from the times. drug companies win test case on

overcharging they wanted legal victory against price rises and so drug companies pharmaceutical companies are not known to be bastions of human rights and equality they call west human rights track record that all of the other save lives surely they save lives i mean it sounds so lovely providing medication but actually we know that the prices they rice have a zero on the drugs have a direct consequence on people who can't get access to them millions of people of course well don't have access to medication simply because they were raise the price on the drugs which the drug companies say they need to burn d.v.d. on this specific case and this is jerry hundreds of millions government that are attacking pfizer the basically have a deacon falls and epilepsy and they rule they did a deal with lymphoma raising the drug price and two pounds eighty three to sixty seven pounds fifty costing the n.h.s. up to fifty million extra year i'm sure the drug companies have a reason for the pharmaceutical companies are based on a profit raising model rather than providing universal health care for all and

luckily across the world there's been an incredible tradition of resistance to pharmaceutical greed and government inaction and i'm really inspired i'm only here alive because of the previous generation of social movements who challenge these pharmaceutical companies to lower the price of drugs and we've got to do the same for the next generation ironically in germany and the british health sector comes under some criticism for your film i think the they may appeal legal victory for the two drug companies but obviously we invited pfizer and flynn pharma to come on the program generally the other murdoch paper the sun what did you make of this with his fury as u.n. expert on extreme poverty problems britain over claims its territory has ravaged the country will it stand if he has and is continuing to ravage the country it's been eight years of hard core and people are dying and i know that sounds. of blowing things out of proportion that people are dying because of the governments is there. policies which is directly related to providing health care for all and

as we're seeing with the n.h.s. in today's time people who are the shop into the knife who don't have as access to health care are dying because of their being left in lines in hospital the other hand we're not as bad as germs americans are breeding children from their parents so we got this story from the good you got in u.k. immigration authorities separating children from parents there's been a no of outrage quite rightly because of the children being locked in cages in america and being separated from their families from britain but we've got to stop wagging fingers and looking what's going on on our own doorstep why do you think it took so long for us to realise for the guardian to say hundreds possibly hundreds of separated from a parent or a care in the u.k. every year going to charity the challenge is immigration because it's easier to blame others than blame ourselves i think the other reason why it took so long is a is a character true of injustice people expect that but because there's such a again face put on by to reason out of course in britain this would never happen

but it is happening we have to look at is the detention centers like yarl's wood and homeless with which illegally detain migrants people would stay to separate them from their children to see the reality of living with deported without the children according to this church but at least they'll be a happy day on saturday with a big. demonstration of pride pride and. why representation in advertising isn't just about pink washing it's true it's about a lot more it's about human rights it's about dignity in is about integrity and it's about really showing their equality isn't done it's we've not achieved that unfortunately we've been through a lot but this did it on way to god well relating to that in terms of in terms of the one of the most powerful stories being shown up right on the floods is by migrants is by migrants and relating to that story before we see my kids going through the system and being illegally to tang left right and center across britain . and the fact that they're marching and quite shiloh's that the reality is the

same here and their pride their pride in london a lot of it situations in corporations like to buy off people's imaginations here but i mean obviously there was huge criticism because be a systems which is involved in the jets currently bombing yemen the world who as you will a tarion crisis this time barclays a good sponsor for private sponsors partly starbucks be a systems unfortunately people probably think that pride was started in tesco they don't know this because of the sponsorship of coles wasn't it yeah tesco they're all there they're all there they're all cashing in the hardest community to challenge is your arm and and you know i people said that's me dan you're protesting that this this this place just leave quite alone and i totally agree it's a very special space for people to come out in but we got to live with integrity and having institutions that be a systems which have not got people including the l.g.b. to the community's interests at heart because they profit from killing people

including where people they have no place on pride it is evil some people know tesco and these people do national news more than all of you will can be deterred will still cause they cause they to this is the fiftieth anniversary of the year after the fiftieth anniversary of the gay liberation front who started pride because of stonewall people and for a few like that old man is like you need to know your history but it's true most people probably think because of the corporate involvement in what they got started by corporation have the goodness of their heart but it didn't thank you we contacted pfizer about the allegations made in this segment and they replied we are pleased that the competition of people tribunals overturned the competition in markets all for it is finding that pfizer abused its dominant position along with the associated fine you see eighty has invited submissions on where the parts of the decision should be remitted back to see any further consideration and we can confirm that we have accordingly responded. priority has always been to ensure

a sustainable supply of our medicines to u.k. patients and this was at the heart of opposition to divest finitary in capsules and i should add the company which manages the detention center in the u.k. assured us that no children are in detention and all decisions on who they detain them made by the home office that's if the show will be back on saturday to celebrate london. pride event till then social media will see on saturday sixty five years of the day that. his trip across latin america with his wife would say convinced him of the. struggle for taking the initiative against imperialism. donald trump europe is

a very busy agenda and it's unclear what kind of reception he will get topping his i can trade relations nato and russia never before has an american president been expected so much attention. we start with breaking news that british counter-terror police confirm two people have been exposed to the nerve agent know the child not far from the city of salzburg officers discouraged speculation on whether the incident is a link to the poisoning of russian former double agent and his daughter in march. and the u.s. marks independence day on july fourth but just how proud are americans that to be american a new surge a survey suggests for many patriotism could be losing its sparkle. because the soul

is separated now instead of being united i'm in that category i'm extremely. close the first knockout stages over the fifa world cup within the quarter finals now set to kick off on friday. are broadcasting live direct from our studios in moscow this is our team international and sean thomas certainly glad to have you with us let's start with our breaking news this hour british counter-terror police say that two people who were rushed to the hospital following their possible exposure to a toxic substance were affected by the nerve agent novacek. this evening i received test results from polls that showed that two people have been exposed to get to know the truck. however i must say that we are not in

a position to say whether the nerve agent was from the side branch the script was words close to. the possibility that these two investigations might be like is clearly a lot of record before it is important however the investigation is led by the evidence available so i don't make any assumptions or indulge in speculation. or to set the has for the details for us when it's been confirmed by the metropolitan police that the substance that left a man and women critically ill in and spray is indeed snow the chalk in the parish both in the mid forties charlie rally and dawn sturgis and that in critical condition at the moment insult district hospital now the two were taken ill on saturday just eight miles away from the square polytechnic way yulia and say were poisoned back in march now at fest it was thought that contaminated drugs was the cause of this but police say that it's now not now and it's now known as not

knowing the author whether the nation was from the same batch that was used against this compound that there will be an emergency meeting to discuss this issue further police say the victims have not been to the same science and solsbury as the screwballs however the couple's friends say they began experience in terms a day after visiting the city. in almost. any stuff i've been reading. lately and the sound. and the news and as mentioned so many came out. and start acting funny it wasn't just brushing against. red. and started swelling like so i'm going to. actually make. them. stick around and so. i'm. so busy they were full. and

then they went off somewhere told they must touch some contaminated that's the next thing from what i understand i know but shocked and i just read up on it. recently and there was quite a detour a lifetime fairly short period effective enough the theory to read rather rapidly. and significantly when exposed to water either directly or with moisture in the ear even if the government did not do the. cleanup afterwards and that's what it may be linked to here you are likely to be i hope you know potency that i could actually do some type of harm after four months i think it's highly unlikely that it that i do something with laying around salisbury on twitter many users have expressed a less than serious view regarding this new no which ok to talk addiction in

four months. three makes me think it's nothing to do with the russians but someone until these three most things that are in your doorstep. sample sent to or came from porton down in london we have knife crime and moped robberies while in wiltshire they do one better they poison people with an over chalk. lethal drug summer because the world cup two thousand and eighteen is just too much fun and you know it took at that. time for the england team to boycott of old cup and come home as of now u.k. authorities say they have been unable to establish if the nerve agent used came from the same batch as the one former russian spy sergei screwball was apparently poisoned with but british police say that they are still looking into that possibility and just to remind you london claims that only russia had the technical ability to produce the nerve agent and also had the motive and the experience to target the screwballs but neither specialists at the u.k.

chemical laboratory of porton down nor o.p.c. w. experts could confirm that the nerve agent was produced in russia still that did not stop london from pointing the finger at moscow. is highly likely that russia was responsible russia culpable culpable culpable for the attempted murder case is culpable all quarrel is with putin's kremlin and we think it overwhelmingly likely that it was his decision russia has consistently denied any involvement with the attack on the screwballs insisting that russia destroyed its nerve agent stockpile while other states have also developed novacek moscow also rejected the notion that it had any motive to target the former's by saying that he had no value after the swap and saying it would have been quote nonsense for russia to carry out such an attack ahead of russia's presidential elections and the football world cup legal and media analyst lionel believes that the question of motive remains unclear in this case the thing that people want to know in addition to the identification of

the particular poison of the agent is what is the motivation. screwball at least had a connection at least he was russian he was a double agent something was. connected even though it was weak who were these two people who were these what is to gain kui bono. who benefits qui protest who benefits who who benefits from this where is the motivation for this how is anybody led to so much true how does russia or anybody say see we still have nova job we still can target people i guess in solve it doesn't make any sense in addition i again i'm no expert in this i'm no expert in the in the lethality of this but i thought that when you deal

with these nerve agents these very powerful boys and that they're so powerful that you need hazmat suits and i could be wrong that that you have to cordon off the area and evacuate people are walking in and out of of hospitals and the last i heard there's going to be a recovery if i hope of this script palls this doesn't even seem to be again i'm not an expert a very lethal or a virulent or dangerous badge of whatever this stuff is and i can say this enough. unless somebody is able to say let me see your sample it is it is axiomatic in a court room that when you claim to find drugs or you claim to find samples or evidence of doping in an athletic event you provide the other side with the ability to test independently that which you are basing your scientists to fix evaluation

on it just makes sense so absent that absent the ability for independent laboratories to verify the existence of whatever this this this substance is this is all conjecture. now the name of course became known around the world after the former russian spy sergei screwball was poisoned now the child has been described by specialists as a highly lethal military grade substance however in both cases the victims exposed to it have survived but i've looked deeper into the story behind the deadly substance. there was no trial no discussion no evidence no proof there was only judgement and punishment is highly likely that russia was responsible the juveniles russia culpable culpable culpable for the attempted murder the pundits needed even less than a movie chalk sounds russian means russia did it establish that it is not

a chalk and that is by definition of the translation of the name which means new comma part of a program in a soviet union in the late seventy's and eighty's the points made there are a lot of questions to ask of this whole mess but over the last few weeks we've interviewed dozens of chemists experts and military specialists and hear their biggest gripes. the new rich nerve agents a new she crit they haven't been so in decades there's many well published formulas of nerve agents so that it's no problem i mean they're there you have sarah. v.x. they're abundant abundant and the structures are known and the toxicity profiles are known so so many people can make nerve agents they know what structures to go to go toward here they are exerts from the books and studies available to the.