i think constructive in that region but that's going to be a very tough row to hoe i think ok it's interesting peter what way you know not to because i guess if you do. restate my first question but in a much shorter version is that trump is showing flexibility in some areas here but other areas he's seen these seem far more rigid how do you see it i mean particularly in the region of the middle east in iran go ahead peter. well i think the key to understanding trump i think this with some humility but i think it does help him as an american first first and foremost meaning. to use the term i don't like much myself i thought nation is the opposite interventionist let's recall you know the term america first the america first committee tried to keep america out of the war world war two and the things the spirit of john quincy adams who advised again america going abroad in

the sleigh this tradition to which should trump hark back which appeal thought much i think through middle america and he seems to be consistent in that and almost all his moves can be interpreted in that spirit whether it's pulling back from korea pulling back from nato overreach in eastern europe. the middle east is a little bit different but maybe come back we will come back to that ok richard i mean considering what we just heard from james and peter i think both i'm a degree that you know and i like how james put it you know indulging the pentagon i mean the pentagon's got a lot of money right now ok but what does that money for in a lot of people would say is for possible or continued military interventions which the president ran against. during the campaign and now we have massive arms sales

to. saudi arabia and israel here and there seems to be a lot of ambiguity about what the u.s. policy is visa v syria how do you one tie all this go ahead richard i don't think. syria's situation is well understood or has been well understood for the purser for years we made a mistake there's no other word for it back in two thousand and eleven assuming that the regime was very fragile and about to be blown away. bandaged to survive and then that was bolstered by russian support and a rainy and support in the following years but the color of. washington jever tubes that. you had heard about during obama's time do not get involved in yet another middle east of the war. richard you're absolutely right and

that's exactly where i want to go here james they look at all of all of us are kind of more or less on the same page here but then how do you account for the bellicose attitude towards iran and i think richard's right donald trump knows enough about history is that that he doesn't want to be a president that's brought down by a foreign war but he really doesn't want to get involved in i mean cheri i mean he's old enough to know what happened to lyndon johnson for example or george bush jr with a rock he doesn't want to have that around his collar but james you know using sanctions to intimidate friends and foes not to import a rainy and all i mean i again you know you know and you look at the american allies in the region saudi arabia and israel which would love to see some kind of regime change or instability that's probably their first priority i mean this seems to kind of go counter what trump it is them is all about when it comes when it goes to foreign policy james. absolutely clearly and i think peter is

right absolutely it's america first policy i wouldn't call it isolationism i would simply call it a sovereigntists policy however there is one big fat exception and that is the middle east we don't have an america first policy in the middle east we have a saudi arabia and israel first policy in the middle east i don't know whether that represents where mr trump really wants to go or whether it is like i said an analogy to the pentagon whether he's indulging the realities that exist so he can do something else if he can get us out of syria i don't expect us to admit we made a mistake in syria of course we did a tragic horrible mistake but in politics people don't admit mistakes if he can slip us out of syria somehow the real question is will he take the bait on what has to be the red line that israel and saudi arabia want regime change in iran and if he goes down that road it's the end of his predecessor presidency he needs to understand that he ends up as george w.

bush if he goes down that road may be a lot worse i frankly don't think he's going to do that but he's certainly got a lot of people both foreign and domestic pushing him in that direction and right now he's indulging them the question is whether he will follow through with that i hope he doesn't you know peter one of the things i've noticed that's unique about this presidency. tweeting assigned is that i think serious people and not just pundits that are partisan one way or another i mean i listen to trump speeches particularly when he goes to the base and there's just a heck of a lot of hyperbole and it's kind of baked in for me ok i'm trying to understand the basis of what he's saying because well most of what he talks about is themself ok that's the trump way but i just have to wonder when you look at his foreign policy views i see that a lot of it is bluster because and i'm kind of agreeing with james here in the bark is really there but there's not always the follow up i mean with syria. we really don't know what's going on there they're not very saying very much because i think

there's going to be a withdrawal but i mean could we look at the bluster towards iran is kind of bluster to keep the saudis and the israelis happy go ahead peter. yes i think it's primarily keep the lead and the israeli lobby in the us happy because look at it this way trump has already got a lot of enemies back home that's what you're new theat. he's got the security bait on his back he got everybody on his back he cannot afford all of the israel lobby on his back so this combined with the fact that he has family links with israel push to thim in the direction of being an iran hawk. now this is scary and he gets dragged down that path we may be in for a very bumpy ride indeed. but i heard that his heart is in it.

opportunistic and dictated by his standing domestically in the u.s. he can't have too many enemies at the same time rich or reflective i think that's quite fascinating because i'm really you know you could have all the bluster you want against iran but it does keep the israelis and the saudis happy and it's one it's one issue he doesn't really want to deal with right now because of the litany of trade issues nato north korea meeting with putin it's on the back burner for him policy wise not rhetorical what do you think richard. if it's not on the back burner peter he's he's got to keep on that situation in the southwest part of syria where the heat is high the rain ians have been maneuvering around too near to the golan heights for israeli comfort

and that that could trigger a fight in a broader conflict which none of us needs richard who would swallow it besides razor which country would be that which country would be the trigger who is the proactive it character you're referring to. well you use real has been striking using air power against what it has identified as your indian target you can use real. names syria and syria that's where it could go. ok out here right here gentlemen i'm going to jump in here we're going to go to a short break it's a hard break i have to go there after a short break we'll continue our discussion on trump's foreign policy stakes with our. i think more doogan is an outstanding person because he took on the most powerful

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ok james let me go back to you in washington right before i went to the right richard pointed out a possible flashpoint a flashpoint in syria the iranians and the go and we have to remind our viewers that go on hikes as you legally or illegally occupied by israel and it's not israeli territory ok it's actually part of syria and the international community recognizes that but i'm glad that richard brought that up james i mean and again you know if you look at kind of the proactive and i don't want to use the word aggressive but proactive stance that trump has taken on so many positions around the globe again we go back to the middle east where it seems to be reactive i mean is israel determining what the united states might it might not do in the region syria is a very good example go ahead. well i think richard is right to point out southwest syria as the real most important dangerous flashpoint here and that's where it

really comes down to mr trump and mr putin can they work out something that defuses that in the abbey in the aftermath of the american failure and syria that really has been a failure that we're not really in a position to broker any kind of deescalation and that area hopefully the russians can you know that you know this points to a serious paradox in american policy we have these so-called neo conservatives here who are the most militant interventionist especially in the middle east they're also the most militant li anti russian and are just in a complete meltdown now over the prospect of this summit coming up what's ought of course is that israel and mr netanyahu have a very good relationship with russia and mr putin so there i think there are things that can be done on the ground there from moscow that the people here just are getting the belt out of the picture that's a really good point let me go to peter on that i mean this is a it's widely speculated i know that the nato allies are terrified of meeting with

putin because he might make a deal over their heads ok all right fine that's a topic for another day but i mean the issue of syria is very interesting and and what cheney says i think makes a lot of sense of something could be an arrangement let's put it that way to deal with syria but why peter would let me or putin trust donald trump after everything that has been said and done i mean ash carter remember when there was a cease fire agreement everybody was on board and in all this all we accidentally attacked the syrian army opes we didn't mean it wow i mean that didn't cut any ice with me or anyone else that i know so peter even if some kind of arrangement could be made to deescalate in syria could the russians trust the americans to come through and we have to remember that trump is under a lot of enormous pressure at home because. even talking to vladimir putin in the eyes of the neoconservatives is treason go ahead peter. well i think the

americans don't have much to negotiate with in syria. the boots on the ground very limited in numbers effectively they're just. the pro u.s. forces in the south are in the process of being rolled up that only leaves the north the ad libbed area to dominate it in turn to the external support by turkey not be us and i think we're also in danger of looking at the wrong flashpoint is not the goal and the goal then the approaching towards the goal and i believe with a done deal read the smoke signals coming or not coming out to jerusalem you can see that the israelis acquiesce in a return to the status quo ante and the iranians will not move up close to the goal

and there's no reason why they should they should want it to. but the real potential flashpoint is the return to a duma type situation remember just back in april we came close to world war three you know we were talking in those terms and the same scenario could be reproduced at any moment but most likely it will be reproduced when the moment comes for the feature of lip which is some month down the track but perfectly for theobald the same conditions will be produced and i believe there will be another fake chemical attack which will trigger. a real really dangerous crisis you know all that we go to richard and people that do that are actually desperate that's when people. they do that kind of thing they're on the losing side that's why they do it i want to stay with. the trump putin meeting and let's

talk about syria is there is there a possible in your mind where some kind of rough outline could be agreed to where everybody could be seen as the winner without getting giving away anything i don't know if that's possible here but i think that that's something that trump would like to say look we're quickly resolving the issue in syria he likes to win that's how he'll look at it and of course that would be a segue because somehow start starting the russia u.s. bilateral relationship again because it pretty much deep sixed what do you think about that richard. interests or peril to american in the sense that he doesn't want to get really. angry and very shy gree. so that gives something to work with the really world curtiz the rain ians and there is no unquestionably strong

almost for that call of color fanatical element and that sees its mission is spreading with already its influence over syria lebanon yemen to some extent and that i don't know what who. can agree on ok well james i mean this is the guy ongoing argument i've had with richard i mean again if that fanatical element and to around i mean they're only fueled by foreign policy mistakes by the former colonial powers in the united states they're the ones that help spread real or imagined iranian influence throughout the region i mean look for example the horrendous shameful. activity that's happening in yemen and the whole world watches this it's a disgrace to humanity and that's all blamed on a rant more rand wasn't there until it all started happening but timelines don't

matter to these people go ahead james. yeah i guess i would disagree a bit with richard although i defer to his superior knowledge in this area it just seems to me that in a world and islamic world it's thirteen percent shiite that any fanaticism from tehran would be a self correcting problem that they simply don't have that throw weight to really have that kind of dominance in the region as far as mr trump and mr putin go i think mr putin is well aware that donald trump does not control the apparatus of his own government whereas putin is master of his house trump really is not and he has to proceed much more carefully and can he give orders that he knows will be obeyed and lastly as far as the allies go i think the one who has the most to fear is theresa may here's somebody who's going to dissolving out from under her we've got their fingerprints on not only on the white helmets and the tackle false flag like like peter was referring to the scriptural thing and also the steel dossier let's not forget that i hope mr putin hands mr trump

a real dossier about what they've been overt up to over there and the united kingdom to try to subvert american interests but i have you know peter one of the things i've done in number of programs on this but you know i've had experts on talking about the interests of this country versus the interests of this one and geopolitics and sometimes it just gets down to trump having a memory i remember how you supported hillary clinton i remember the donna ca i remember m i six involved in meddling in the election not the russians you know it's really and then those ukrainian oligarchy that gave money to the clinton foundation i mean you could say that's a layer that that's how donald trump sees fulcrum policy that you get when he's slighted he's got it written down in a back of an envelope check that person's done that person's done i'm to i'm i'm making light of this a little bit but obviously there's personal issues that. views the world here go ahead peter. young i think two keys to understanding trump one is the

so called isolationism ornately the. other is. not a way of dealing feature. depart from the or the orthodox washington and. then constant conflict like a goalie who is pinned down by the washington consensus by these myriad little advisers around him the only times he's really free are in the middle of the night three am when he can tweet and nobody can stop him. when he's in the thumb it when he's going to come in again one on one question when they keep advisors out to the chamber these are the times when he can be donald i think donald should be more donald if anything in it you know richard it's already been brought up in this program and i think it's an important question is that you know when. the nato confound there and then when he meets with putin here i mean

nato is doesn't like the public browbeating that trump is given them over spending this spending issues been on the table for a long time it's nothing really new and with that with the trump. putin meeting i mean when they look at it again i want to go back to the rhetorical see this more words because you know they're going to think that you know this summit will pass go back to work they'll be at the summit with putin and then. goes back on the campaign trail going to his rallies i mean is it just more for photo ops and just bluster because i can't see that he has really the power to make a deal with putin for example. well let's say this he's only has two interests in the middle east the. so-called peace process doing something to get the biggest deal in history between israelis and palestinians and then the process of oil so

those those two issues do capture his attention what where he's going he has unfortunately weakened confidence in american leadership in the middle east problem. with drawing from the you agreement. agreed. he's playing with the weaker hand the nuclear agreement with the room you know ok one thing is very and i'm glad we're going to wrap it up here i'm glad that richard brought up oil prices the way it's going gentlemen donald trump trying to lower oil prices he's been actually helping them to increase and the saudis how he treats them so well the saudis have not returned the favor to try to equalize the price we'll see where this is going to go here that's all the time we have gentlemen many thanks to my guests and watched in new york and in london and thanks to our viewers for watching us here at r.t.c.

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