dot com coming up the head of the hyperloop transportation technologies is the guest on so feet and co ok about transport systems of the. champs with hot line through them at the speed of sound. hyperloop promising to change the world but how close is the project to reality well i ask more and see hyperloop transportation technology. first it was the railroad then the airplane and now we're on the verge of another transportation breakthrough the hybrid is promising to make the plug in shrink whizzing passengers vacuum tubes at half the speed of sound but without any actual lines launched are these just dreams

. which is the project feasible in the real world and when will receive working with our own eyes. can't it's really going to have you on our program welcome thank you for having us so i know there's been some progress and implementing hyperloop in russia where you're at right now. so we opened up all our new center and through some friends and we just announced the first commercial line in the emirates. going to be starting was a first ten kilometers and. then later on hopefully connecting to a larger network in russia we have been. several discussions. you know so far there's nothing really i can comment on. you know a goal is of course to the russian to become russian. i think this amazing. skill

sets in russia we're looking into eventually doing some of the development here we already have several partner team members that are from russia so yeah so last year when you were at the same far you've said that there are live chinese investors and this project may even be part of the silk road. i think that's a silk road is. the perfect application if you want so. you know using a new technology like the hyperloop allows you to move freights within hours to europe rather than weeks plus you know those containers that we're moving on the ocean there i mean those ships are actually not that great for them but actually but is it just like a great idea are you actually implementing it as we speak i think no i mean it's still you know that the whole project of the state road i think is still a little further out so we are in discussions we are in the good part of the i think part of the vision you know but. you have to understand that we have been

working on our technology know for the last five years we're ready to get into the commercial sector now but it's still going to take a couple of years to ask you questions about that as well but like you told me you live in an airplane so i figure like you're travelling the world to to offer this project to different countries which country would you say right now is the most in there to take upon that well you know we see restarting the first commercial project in the emirates so definitely the middle east is is one of the areas we have. we have projects in india and indonesia and south korea we're working with the governments they created a consortium so we licensing all technology and we're co-develop ing with those consulting members in europe we have quite some interests. in france who are establishing or in the center in brazil we just opened up our you know innovation center and so square. but in general i would say that it's asia in.

india indonesia the middle east. all the countries that definitely you know they need to move no they have they have problems and these problems need to be solved and we are solution so from what i understand there is hyperloop one hyperlink transportation technologies other companies and they're all working on a same thing and they're all competitors is this right so we were the first company that started working on the hyperloop and we realized really early on that it really needed to become a movements of resin. you know just a single company trying to do something in one country and that's what it is today there are several companies there universities everybody is working on the hyper growth. that's really i want to say two main companies which are one in the us. the others are mostly working on specific applications it seems. i would say that we are probably the ones that are more integrating more looking into the whole

operation from passenger to freights to the last mile integration but that's also part of all model that we work with partners a reward was companies and people that have the knowledge and they bring those knowledge to our companies and so that's another thing that i like so strange to me because it's a very open source company are a concept ike aren't you afraid that everyone who wants to just in a snatch the commercial know how the technical know how and then so it's not open source it's. i mean it's an idea and of course everybody can start working on an idea right everybody can try to develop a self-serving car or everybody it's that's that's pretty normal our technology is not open source we have technology that we develop technology that we license. the way we work is a completely new way and it's a covered case study and also howard started to teach a model last year it's. it's based on corroboration instant we don't try to

reinvent things we find some best technologies around the world we're bringing them together and basically we stand on the shoulder of giants in order to make this product happen so when you sat for a loop you're obviously thinking of it when massive because he's the one who introduced a concept in the twenty thirteen it was i think i know that he's backed off from it right now well like for you because you're bringing this idea to a lack you're actually dedicating your life to it does it annoy you that it's associate will unmask or is it actually a book start a burden that it says it with his name so. you know most was a person that in two thousand and thirteen basically pointed the finger. and say that we really should be doing something better than what we're doing right now. hyper was not a new idea it has been around for quite some time a truly already couple hundred years ago we were trying to travel so we all very fascinated with the idea because we grew up with it right if you watched futurama

or the jetsons they are traveling inside to see it's pretty normal disney have fun concepts like that there were several in implementations that were planned in the ninety's in the sixty's. so when iran proposed this idea and he said he was too busy this test on space x. he wanted someone else to pick it up we reached out we asked for permission we were the first company out there and you know we were alone for almost two years so. it's great that there are more people there it's great that you know musk is there pushing the idea and supporting the community it's a beginning it's definitely helped create awareness. however we always try to make understand that it's not one single person it doesn't it's not an iran must write it's a lot of people it's not me i'm the c.e.o. but. it's it's really all the partners that are coming together all the people that

are making this movement but it's not it's more than just a company and some movement several companies and so you have sat that hyperloop could actually be free or passengers off peak hours flying your own who we knew what right mind would like things something like that now people are willing to pay so much money to go on a plane to actually save time because you know it's fast why would you ever want to make it free when you so much money out of it first of all i think that most transportation is going to be free. and we are actively working on that and the reason there is nobody the time to meet you mean i'm never on the to be hyperlinked for the local transports. maybe even trains or partially at least and it doesn't mean that we're out of our minds because we want to give sings out for free it just means that we believe that there is a better way of making money if you think about it as

a moment of time that you spend inside your car inside a plane inside a train and in the future inside the hyperloop and nobody tries to make money and attaining your rights how do you monetize the time if you think about transportation as a marketing and no you know we use the time better and. everything starts to change we spend billions of dollars to get people to places so they can spend their money there. in transportation. we are already there and we are using that time well i was just on an airplane for my hours and it was the last time there was nothing in those nine hours of transatlantic flights i like my favorite pastime because no one can get to me it's only a time i always have to myself that's priceless yes but it could be also nice of them it is right so what do you think it is that the way that i believe this first of all so we find a way that to make more money the more the passenger rights and it ticket becomes

negative right you want people to spend more time to travel more often to you know to be there. than you would use a ticket rather in peak times maybe to regulate demands but not really to think it would be nothing or very low but that whatever services are offered on board you couldn't refuse them because they're so wonderful so you couldn't be spending money on them is that what you're saying no of course you can refuse there's always ways of. i mean basically going into mcdonald's anything even if you don't want to buy anything you still buy because it's also the right once you're there you buy something for us but i believe i believe that there is plenty of ways on how you really can monetize the times of passenger spends so some of them might opt for certain services others maybe maybe just want to rest or you know use use your set of isis or better have access to entertainment it's it's going away from classes so

it's not having economy business and first class and more and moving over to a use case driven from sports so what do you want to do or do you feel like in the time you want to spend time with your family do you want to argue on the dates. you know is it a work meeting do you want to relax it's also more of the directions a little bit let's say i want to go on a date while i'm traveling am i going to have like a separate cabin for a day or how it's going to look i mean i'm sure you have like a visual i static perception of it as well. so the way that we do this is actually by using an ecosystem so we work with companies we work with. startup founders if you want to a new eight years you're innovators to come up with. the whole ecosystem the marketplace so you know of course i can give you some of the years but at the end you know you can always only have so little and i just really wonder yeah that's

a little bit different from i don't know like this amazing first class airplane service they have a lot of attention there so those will maybe it's a separate cabin maybe you have a bottle of champagne there maybe you have the right music in the background maybe you have a projection mapping around you and through to you know you can create an atmosphere if it's a business meeting maybe you have some more tenuous translation and they're great that's so you don't have language areas or you have recording or you have the connection you are able to have your doctor's visits. rather than spend time when you get to a destination to doozies things you can actually do them while you travel and again for us it's more about providing the technology and then open it up to other companies. that can provide the service that we're going to take a short break right now and there while it come back we'll continue talking to turn or and c.e.o. of hyperloop transportation cryptology stay with us. across

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a solution of the situation is something that you. that you basically modify based on comfort and comfort comes first right comfort when we do a route planning us is always a first the first part you need to build something that works for a two year old as much as for an eighteen year old in safety is i mean that's a given that you're building a system that is the most safe you can build the system in the self is ten times safer than an uplink to give you an idea the reason for that is that there are ten times ten times less. if you think about it the nap thing is actually fairly scary you're right it's up there in the sky somehow and. if something happens that needs to land we are able to stop within seconds. we can separate the sections we can depressurize and you can leave those emergency exits very similar to what you do today.